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   Number 1: Ep # 69, Dr Stephen Peters, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - Horse Brain Science, part 2

   In this episode of the Talking About Horses podcast, Patrick King welcomes back neuroscientist Dr. Stephen Peters to explore the biological intersection of horse training and brain science. The conversation dives deep into the concept of allostasis—the horse's ability to adapt to arousal during learning—and emphasizes why "rest and digest" periods are neurochemically essential for consolidating new information. Dr. Peters explains how handlers can move beyond just "shaping behaviors" to effectively "reshaping the brain" by understanding nervous system states, utilizing the power of the pause, and providing horses with agency to create lasting, positive habits.

   April 14, 2026·1h 1min
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   Number 2: Ep # 68, Dr Stephen Peters, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - Horse Brain Science

   In this episode of Talking About Horses, Dr. Stephen Peters, a neuroscientist and horseman, discusses the intricate relationship between horse behavior and brain science. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the horse's brain to improve communication and training methods. Dr. Peters explains concepts such as sympathetic arousal, myelination, and the impact of trauma on horses. He advocates for a more evidence-based approach to horsemanship, encouraging riders to foster curiosity in their horses and to recognize the significance of resetting the nervous system for effective learning. The conversation also touches on the future of equine neuroscience and the potential for technology to enhance our understanding of horse behavior.

   November 16, 2025·1h 24min
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   Number 3: Ep # 67, Paul Belasik, TALKING ABOUT HORSES - Long and Low: A Revolution in Modern Dressage

   Summary In this episode of Talking About Horses, Patrick King interviews Paul Belasik, a respected international rider and author, discussing the evolution of dressage and the importance of classical equestrian ideals. They explore the significance of fundamentals in riding, the influence of classical literature, and the challenges faced in modern dressage. Paul emphasizes the need for critical thinking and education in equestrian training, while also addressing the historical context of riding techniques like long and low. The conversation highlights the balance between winning and ethical riding practices, ultimately advocating for a deeper understanding of horse biomechanics and the art of riding.

   October 07, 2025·1h 26min
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   Number 4: Ep # 56, Bettina Drummond, TALKING ABOUT HORSES

   In this fascinating and deep-dive episode, Bettina Drummond joins me to talk about the dimensions of riding, the "myths and legend" of Nuno Oliveira, the direction of modern dressage, and more. Bettina is a highly regarded trainer and teacher in the French classical system of riding. One of only two Americans and two women to be named an Honorary Écouier of Saumur's Cadre Noir, she shares her unique journey, starting from riding South Carolina Marsh Tacky's at age three to spending 17 years in training with master Nuno Oliveira beginning at age seven. In this conversation, Bettina offers an intimate and unfiltered look into the demanding, yet ultimately empowering, formation she received from Oliveira. She describes him as a "tsunami of a human being," a true master who had a tremendous knowledge of classical techniques but was often intolerant of weakness or physical fear. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone seeking a deeper, more nuanced understanding of classical horsemanship that goes beyond modern interpretations, offering practical, biomechanical insight into true lightness and balance.

   January 14, 2025·2h 19min
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   Number 5: Ep # 35, Dr Paul Haefner, TALKING ABOUT HORSES

   In episode # 35, Dr Paul Haefner joins to talk about rider psychology and fear.

   January 13, 2025·2h 39min
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