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  • #368 2023 Toyota bZ4X

    Toyota kicks off its all-electric vehicle lineup with the bZ4X, joining the rapidly growing EV market with a popular SUV size slotting between the RAV4 and the larger Venza. We share our first impressions of the 2023 Toyota bZ4X and discuss its modest electric range, the recent recall involving wheels detaching while in motion, Toyota already running out of EV tax credits, and why CR will not be buying one for its test program.

     

     

     

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    00:00 - Introduction

    00:14 - First Impressions: 2023 Toyota bZ4X

    17:25 - Question: Why automatic folding side view mirrors are rare in the US?

     

     

     

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    2023 Toyota bZ4X

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/toyota/bz4x/2023/overview

     

    Roomy 2023 Toyota bZ4X Impresses on the Road

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/2023-toyota-bz4x-review-a7787483444/

     

    Toyota Becomes 3rd Automaker to Reach Electric vehicle Tax Credit Limit

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/toyota-reaches-electric-vehicle-tax-credit-limit-a9709089660/

     

    2023 Subaru Solterra EV Has Lots of Room but Its Battery Is Too Small

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/2023-subaru-solterra-review-a1453953544/

     

    Guide to Car Safety

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-guide-to-car-safety/

     

     

     

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    22 min
  • #367 2023 Acura Integra

    Acura has resurrected the Integra nameplate, as the classic five-door hatchback returns with an upscale vibe. We share our first impressions on the 2023 Acura Integra, discuss how it performed around our test track, if the interior lives up to the Acura's quality standards, and what sets it apart from the very similar Honda Civic Si. We also debate whether the Integra should be treated as a first year model, or whether it is okay to purchase because many of its components are carried over from the previously released Civic Si.

     

     

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    00:14 - First Impressions : 2023 Acura Integra

    18:40 - Question: Is it wise to purchase the first model year of the 2023 Acura Integra?

     

     

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    All-New Turbocharged 2023 Acura Integra Starts Under $31,000

    https://www.consumerreports.org/small-cars/2023-acura-integra-review-a1115778934/

     

    2023 Acura Integra

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/acura/integra/2023/overview

     

    First Drive: 2022 Honda Civic Stands Out Among Compact Sedans

    https://www.consumerreports.org/sedans/2022-honda-civic-review-a1347563873/

     

    Guide to Car Safety

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-guide-to-car-safety/

     

     

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    25 min
  • #366 The Most American Car of All Time

    The 4th of July Independence Day holiday is here in the US, and to celebrate we wanted to find out from our audience: what does it mean for a car to be "American?” With a global car market and vehicle parts being made all over the world, it can be difficult to define. We also polled our audience to select what they think is the most American car ever manufactured. We share the responses, and our expert opinions on this star-spangled episode!

     

     

     

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    00:00 - Introduction

    00:14 - What defines an American Car?

    16:32 - What Is the Most American Car?

     

     

     

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    How the Tesla Model S Changed the World

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/how-the-tesla-model-s-changed-the-world-a7291465820/

     

    Best New-Car Deals for July 4th

    https://www.consumerreports.org/buying-a-car/best-new-car-deals-for-july-4th-a1191663902/

     

    Guide to Car Safety

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-guide-to-car-safety/

     

     

     

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    28 min
  • #365 2023 Genesis G80 EV

    This week, we give our first impressions of the all-electric Genesis G80 (officially called the Electrified G80). We discuss the styling, electric range, driving dynamics, and luxurious interior of the EV sedan, and how it compares to the gas powered version. Also, with so many electric vehicles on the market, we debate which used EV we would recommend to a first time buyer.

     

     

     

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    SHOW NOTES

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    00:00 - Introduction

    00:57 - First Impressions : 2023 Genesis G80 EV

    14:30 - Question: Which used electric vehicle is best suited for a first time EV buyer?

     

     

     

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    2022 Genesis G80

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/genesis/g80/2022/overview

     

    Electric Cars Are Becoming Less Expensive

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/electric-cars-are-becoming-less-expensive-a6548270716/

     

    Most Satisfying New Compact Hybrid Cars

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/most-satisfying-new-hybrid-cars-a5029804171/

     

    How to Choose a Fuel-Efficient New Car

    https://www.consumerreports.org/fuel-economy-efficiency/how-to-choose-a-fuel-efficient-new-car-a6176139178/

     

    Guide to Car Safety

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-guide-to-car-safety/

     

     

     

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    21 min
  • #364 2023 Nissan Z

    Nissan draws from its 50-plus-year history in resurrecting the Z, a sports car that the automaker calls "all-new" (but is it though??) We debate the provenance of this iteration of the Z, as well as share our first impressions of its performance, interior, and what you might lose by opting for the automatic transmission. We also debate which is the ultimate driving machine: the BMW M550i xDrive, or the Mercedes-Benz AMG E53.

     

     

     

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    00:00 - Introduction

    00:58 - First Impressions : 2023 Nissan Z

    20:55 - Question: Which is the ultimate driving machine: the BMW 550i xDrive, or the Mercedes-Benz AMG E53?

     

     

     

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    Preview: All-New 2023 Nissan Z Combines Classic Cues, Modern Performance

    https://www.consumerreports.org/sports-cars/nissan-z-preview-a2145463162/

     

    2022 New York Auto Show: Nissan Z

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNp1KyxJv80

     

    Nissan Z Road Test

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAndC05ZXzY

     

    2023 Nissan Z

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/nissan/z/2023/overview

     

    Guide to Car Safety

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-guide-to-car-safety/

     

     

     

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    25 min
  • #363 2023 Subaru Solterra

    Subaru jumps into the electric vehicle market with the brand's first widely offered EV, the 2023 Solterra. Sharing its platform with the almost identical Toyota bZ4X, we share our first impressions of this all-electric SUV, including its unique interior design cues, driving characteristics, and power delivery. We also discuss the current state of the semiconductor chip shortage on the car market: why you might see cars selling with a chip shortage discount, whether some manufacturers are dropping options like satellite radio in order to ration the available chips, and if cars from this era will be desirable in the future.

     

     

     

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    SHOW NOTES

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    00:00 - Introduction

    00:52 - First Impressions : 2023 Subaru Solterra

    13:39 - Question: Is the semiconductor chip shortage still affecting the car market?

     

     

     

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    2023 Subaru Solterra EV Has Lots of Room but Its Battery Is Too Small

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/2023-subaru-solterra-review-a1453953544/

    2022 New York Auto Show: Subaru Solterra EV

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGi4IJqsab8

     

    2022 New York Auto Show: Toyota’s All-Electric bZ4X

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR9vD7PEjBo

     

    Why Your New Car May Not Have Everything You Want

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-driving/why-your-new-car-may-not-have-everything-you-want-a9886900049/

     

    When to Buy a Used Car in This Tough Market

    https://www.consumerreports.org/buying-a-car/when-to-buy-a-used-car-a6584238157/

     

    Global Chip Shortage Makes It Tough to Buy Certain Cars

    https://www.consumerreports.org/buying-a-car/global-chip-shortage-makes-it-tough-to-buy-certain-cars-a8160576456/

     

    Guide to Car Safety

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-guide-to-car-safety/

     

     

     

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    24 min
  • #362 2022 Ford Maverick Hybrid

    The Ford Maverick hybrid promises superior fuel economy and pickup utility at a price that's thousands of dollars less than the more common standard-sized truck. But will the availability of the hybrid powertrain as front-wheel drive only be a deal-breaker for buyers? Can this small pickup handle truck duties, and how does it compare to the standard engine version? Also, we explain the science behind regenerative braking, and how it works in both hybrid and electric vehicles.

     

     

     

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    00:52 - First Impressions : 2022 Ford Maverick Hybrid

    13:39 - Question: Please explain the science behind regenerative braking, and how it works in both hybrid and electric vehicles?

     

     

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    First Drive: 2022 Ford Maverick Is a Throwback to the Era of Small, Simple Pickup Trucks

    https://www.consumerreports.org/pickup-trucks/2022-ford-maverick-review-a1068008639/

     

    2022 Ford Maverick

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/ford/maverick/2022/overview/

     

    How to Decide If a Hybrid, Plug-In Hybrid, or Fully Electric Car Is Right for You

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/how-to-decide-if-a-hybrid-plug-in-hybrid-or-fully-electric-car-is-right-for-you/

     

    Guide to Car Safety

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-guide-to-car-safety/

     

     

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    19 min
  • #361 2022 Rivian R1T

    This week, we drive the all-new fully-electric Rivian R1T pickup truck. We share our first impressions, discuss some of our favorite features and debate whether the R1T bridges the gap between being environmentally conscious and having truck-like utility.

     

     

     

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    00:00 - Introduction

    00:15 - First Impressions: 2022 Rivian R1T

    14:57 - Question: Which full size pickup truck is reliable and worth keeping for a long time?

     

     

     

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    2022 Rivian R1T Electric Pickup Truck Wows Us as It Lives Up to the Hype

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/2022-rivian-r1t-electric-pickup-truck-review-a3029848158/

     

    2022 Rivian R1T

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/rivian/r1t/2022/overview

     

    2019 RAM 1500 Quick Drive

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coeasX0ZyTk

     

    2022 RAM 1500

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/ram/1500/2022/overview

     

    Guide to Car Safety

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-guide-to-car-safety/

     

     

     

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    25 min
  • #360 2023 Genesis GV60 EV

    This week, we give our first impressions of the all-new GV60, the first fully-electric vehicle from Genesis. We discuss styling, driving dynamics, and interior storage-- and compare the GV60 to the Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6 which are built on the same platform. We also answer an audience question about the legality of driving with fog lights in everyday situations. 

     

     

     

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    SHOW NOTES

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    00:00 - Intro

    00:16 - First Impressions: 2023 Genesis GV60

    14:30 - Question: Is there any danger or law against driving with fog lights on during clear weather?

     

     

     

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    Preview: Electric 2023 Genesis GV60 Charges to Production

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/genesis-gv60-review-a2697188686/

     

    2023 Genesis GV60

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/genesis/gv60/2023/overview/?pagestop

     

    First Drive: 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 Can Play in the Big League

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/2022-hyundai-ioniq-5-review-a4449361814/

     

    First Drive: 2022 Kia EV6 Debuts With Plenty of Power and Engaging Handling

    https://www.consumerreports.org/hybrids-evs/2022-kia-ev6-review-a1953327658/

     

    Guide to Car Safety

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-guide-to-car-safety/

     

     

     

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    24 min
  • #359 2023 Mazda CX-50

    Mazda is channeling the Subaru Outback with its rugged-looking CX-50, and a focus towards outdoor enthusiasts. We share our first impressions of this small SUV, and what sets it apart from the CX-5. Also, how does Consumer Reports get to drive cars that aren't yet for sale? We explain our unique relationship with car manufacturers, and how we are able to maintain our unbiased testing standards while still getting a sneak peek at cars before you see them on the dealership lot.

     

     

     

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    00:00 - Intro

    00:14 - First Impressions: 2023 Mazda CX-50

    11:18 - Question: How is CR able to “rent” all these brand-new vehicles from manufacturers?

     

     

     

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    Preview: Mazda Reveals the All-New 2023 CX-50

    https://www.consumerreports.org/suvs/2023-mazda-cx-50-review-a2206621676/

     

    2023 Mazda CX-50

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/mazda/cx-50/2023/overview

     

    Guide to Car Safety

    https://www.consumerreports.org/cars-guide-to-car-safety/

     

     

     

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    22 min

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