Seriah is joined by Mike Clelland, Joshua Cutchin, and Red Pill Junkie. Topics include scheduling difficulties, Mike and Josh’s new fiction books, RPJ’s cover artwork, Mike’s page lay-out art directing, Joshua’s proof-reading, Mike’s “The Unseen”, words Mike avoided, Christopher Knowles and “The Secret Sun” podcast, comic books/graphic novels, owls. The color blue, Carl Jung, “The Red Book”, Carlos Castaneda, psychedelics, Josh’s “Them Old Ways Never Died”, symbolism, the phenomenon of characters seeming to have personalities of their own, alcoholism and other addictions, the two books shared universe, the impact of the pandemic on live musicians, the film “Unwanted”, difficulties in portraying the Fae in fiction, “King of Morning, Queen of Day” novel by Ian McDonald, Josh’s “The Brimstone Deceit”, Morgan Daimler, Graham Hancock’s fiction, the oil painting process, artist Billy Shank, Mike’s memoir “Hidden Experience”, Mike’s time wearing the Kool Aid man costume, the changes in the ease of taking pictures and filming over the decades, RPJ’s methods of cover art, Mike’s three non-fiction books on UFOs and owls, creative people and the paranormal, nuts and bolts ufology, trauma and the Phenomenon, dissociation and the paranormal, Kenneth Ring and the experience-prone personality, Jeff Ritzmann, unrecognized and unremembered trauma, depression, the movie “They Live”, childhood experiences, Seriah’s teenage traumas, similarities between alien encounters and NDEs, Dr. Michael Newton, “Life Between Lives” book, audiobooks and their production, Micah Hanks, “Limelight” BBC podcast, Jake “the Snake” Roberts, the differences between writing fiction and nonfiction, planners vs pantsers, Jim Marrs and “The Sisterhood of the Rose”, the difficulties of portraying villains, the movie “Watchers”, the video games “Control”, “Alan Wake”, and esoteric things contained in them, Remedy Studios, Eric Wargo’s book “Time Loops”, “Oxenfree” video game, possible sequels to Mike and Josh’s fiction, other projects in the works, Barbara Fisher, and much more! This a riveting conversation featuring three all-time favorite guests!

- Recap by Vincent Treewell

Outro Music is Vrangvendt with The Hunt

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