On this episode of Talking Real Estate with John Gibson, John Gibson and Mark Warren are joined by Paul Dunn, former rugby league great, two-time premiership winner, Clive Churchill Medallist, Australian and New South Wales representative, former South Sydney Rabbitohs CEO, Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs board member, and now CEO of Believe First.

Paul talks footy, his country upbringing and the lessons he learned along the way. He opens up about the transition from professional sport into business, the challenge of finding identity after football, and why replacing the structure, routine and sense of belonging can be just as difficult as replacing an income.

Paul also shares how AI is transforming the way he works with businesses, explaining how AI agents, automation and smarter systems are improving productivity, quality and speed, while creating capacity to produce work that once took weeks.

In true Talking Real Estate style, the discussion then turns to property. Paul reflects on buying his first home near Waverley Oval, the properties he wishes he had held, lessons from buying, selling and developing, and why good advice matters. John, Mark and Paul also tackle negative gearing, housing supply, first-home buyers, investors, and the role property plays as both a home and a long-term wealth-building vehicle.

The conversation rounds out with Rapid Fire, covering leadership, Wally Lewis, Phil Gould, Canterbury, Penrith, and the moments from Paul’s career that continue to stand out.

A candid, insightful and entertaining conversation covering rugby league, business, AI, property, leadership and life after professional sport.

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Talking Real Estate with John Gibson, alongside co host Mark Warren, welcomes one of rugby league’s true heavyweights, Steve “Blocker” Roach.

Blocker’s resume speaks for itself. A Balmain icon who debuted in 1982 and went on to play 185 top grade games for the Tigers, he also had a stint with Warrington in the UK. He represented New South Wales 17 times in State of Origin, pulled on the green and gold for 20 Tests, earned multiple Dally M Team of the Year selections, and was later named in the Team of the 1980s. His legacy was cemented with induction into the NRL Hall of Fame, and more recently, the NSW Rugby League Hall of Fame. Off the field, he has built a long media career across radio and Fox Sports, becoming one of the most recognisable voices in the game.

In this episode, Blocker steps away from footy stories and media headlines to talk about real life decisions. Money, discipline, family, pressure, and what he would tell his younger self.

John brings the property lens, shaped by more than 35 years advising buyers and investors, to unpack the kind of thinking that actually builds long term outcomes. You will hear the trade offs people miss, the value of playing the long game, and a simple principle Blocker comes back to with no hesitation.

If you are buying your first place, investing, or just trying to make better calls with money and property, this is a cracking listen.

Our special guest on Talking Real Estate with John Gibson, alongside co-host Mark Warren, needs little introduction. An absolute legend and an inspirational human. As a footballer, he clocked up 161 matches with the Newcastle Knights, became a two-time NRL Premiership winner including the epic inaugural 1997 Grand Final, and added three NSW State of Origin appearances. Yet his athletic achievements in no way define the man.

Away from the footy field, he is the driving force behind one of the most inspiring charities in Australia. After a harrowing diagnosis in 2013, the Mark Hughes Foundation was born. As of 2025, the Foundation has raised more than 35 million dollars and sold over one million Beanies for Brain Cancer. A remarkable story and journey. Mark acknowledges the incredible support of his family, close mates and the entire rugby league community. Raising millions for brain cancer research, Mark’s path is one of grit, bravery, purpose and perspective. This podcast is raw and emotional in parts and this superstar truly shines.

We dive into his thoughts on property, where he has bought, what he has learned and what “home” means to him today. We know you are going to enjoy this special episode of Talking Real Estate with John Gibson.

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Talking Real Estate with John Gibson, co-hosted by Mark Warren, features Laura Jayes, one of Australia’s most respected political journalists and the anchor of AM Agenda on Sky News. A proud Shire girl with a love affair with Bondi, Jayes is on point sharp as a tack although also quirky not afraid to have a laugh!

Laura takes us inside her career spanning nearly two decades, from reporting in the corridors of Canberra’s press gallery to covering U.S. elections, leadership spills, and frontline reporting in Afghanistan and Nauru. Known for her sharp interviews and balanced commentary, she shares how journalism has shaped her perspective on politics, authenticity, and public life.

This conversation also explores Laura’s property journey, from buying her first apartment in Sydney’s east to flipping and renovating in Bondi, and her take on affordability, negative gearing, and the changing Great Australian Dream.

The episode blends real estate insight, candid storytelling, and a rare behind-the-scenes look at one of the country’s most prominent journalists. Whether you are here for property strategy, politics, or simply a great conversation, you will find plenty to take away. Please enjoy!

In this episode, John Gibson and Mark Warren sit down with Rugby League great Peter "Wally" Wynn for a powerful conversation that spans sport, business, and life. From humble beginnings in Maitland to premiership glory with the Parramatta Eels, Peter reflects on his journey with humour, humility, and a treasure trove of stories.

He shares memories of playing under Coach of the Century, Jack Gibson. Overcoming career-threatening injuries, representing New South Wales and Australia, and transitioning into the world of retail with the iconic Peter Wynn's Score. Along the way, Peter dishes out timeless advice on resilience, money, mentorship, and real estate investment — including how he spent his first $7.5 million “cheque” (well, sort of!).

Whether you're a footy fan, aspiring entrepreneur, or just love a good yarn, this episode is packed with golden insights and feel-good moments.

🎙️ Topics include:

• Rugby league in the 1980s – behind the scenes with legends
• Learning business the hard way (and loving it)
• Real estate, saving, and smart investing
• The evolution of sports retail and e-commerce
• Life lessons from the paddock and the shop floor

Recorded live at Elevate Studios"If you don’t score here, you’ll never score!" – Peter Wynn

Brendan Jones is one of Australia’s most recognisable voices. He wakes up with approximately 410,000 people per week that’s 82 000 people per day Monday to Friday! Jonesy & Amanda is one of Australia’s most successful breakfast radio shows in fact in Sydney’s latest survey the dynamic duo boasted an 11.3% of the commercial radio market their highest survey result in 10 years! Together with his superstar co-host Amanda Keller racking up multiple ACRA’s and going back to back in 2023 and 2024 for the radio industry’s best on air team.

A knockabout with professional polish across radio, television, film and even the dance floor!

Brendan brings his signature wit and candour to the mic for a candid chat with John Gibson and co-host Mark Warren.

From navigating 19% interest rates on his first property to making bold moves in Kangaroo Point, Jonesy opens up about his real estate journey - sharing the wins, the blunders (hello, no building inspections), and the advice that stuck. He even reveals what he’d do with a hypothetical $5 million investment cheque - and it’s not what you’d expect.

Packed with smart insights, great stories, and a good dose of humour, this is one you won’t want to miss.

🎧 Hit play for a fun and honest look at property, career moves, and the moments that make it all worthwhile.

A journo, reporter, television and radio presenter—Jim is a self-confessed sports nut who simply oozes sporting knowledge.

He’s covered some of the world’s biggest sporting events, including eight Olympic Games, British Opens, World Cup soccer, State of Origin, AFL Grand Finals, and international cricket tours of South Africa and the West Indies.

Jim also made Australian television history when he and wife Chris Bath became the first married couple to co-anchor a news bulletin—proof he’s punching above his weight!

In 2020, Jim transitioned from television to talk radio, joining 2GB as the Drive presenter.

In this episode, John Gibson and co-host Mark Warren sit down with Jim to talk all things property, media, and life. From buying his first property with his sister in Glebe during the 17–18% interest rate era, to reflecting on the long-term value of holding property—Jim shares honest stories and sharp insights from his own real estate journey.

Today, Jim is not only a respected journalist but also a highly sought-after MC and keynote speaker. His deep knowledge of sport, business, and leadership makes him a compelling storyteller. His presentations regularly explore themes like resilience, teamwork, goal setting, and performing under pressure—whether he’s coaching CEOs or leading major corporate events.

Jim’s passion for communication extends beyond the field. He is a proud advocate for medical research—a cause close to his heart after losing his young son, Sam, to brain cancer in 2010. That dedication has become a lifelong mission. In 2016, Jim also lost his sister, renowned sports journalist Rebecca Wilson, to breast cancer—deepening his commitment to cancer awareness and advocacy.

🎧 Tune in for a wide-ranging chat with a passionate communicator, proud Aussie, and a man who knows the value of a good story—and a good property.

Talking Real Estate with John Gibson with our special guest Wayne ‘Junior’ Pearce. Where do we start and where do we end when chatting with deadset legend Wayne Pearce OAM. We give it a shot, the early days, his family ties to the Balmain area, and yes of course we talk Real Estate. We also chat business and sport with this humble educated superstar of Australian Sport. From humble beginnings, this fitness and sports science guru started with a hotdog stand at his beloved Leichhardt Oval, the eighth wonder of the world! A dedicated fitness fanatic, way before his time, a renowned non-drinker and was this a conscious decision?

John Gibson is feeling generous so out comes the cheque book just where will ‘Junior’ invest his 5M? We look at Junior’s first entry into the property market and track that very property via RP Data which goes to reinforce John Gibson’s long term approach to Real Estate investment.

We ask Wayne to define high performance and explore the science of teamwork. One incredible story is Operation Project Apollo, the pandemic hit & Wayne ‘Junior’ Pearce was chartered by NRL Chairman Peter V’Landys to help save the very existence of the NRL during this period and with his skillset, Pearce found a way and in doing so saved the game and the NRL became a pioneer for World sport.

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Our latest guest on Talking Real Estate with John Gibson is professional athlete and businessman Ryan Cross.

Hailing from an exceptionally talented sporting family, Cross was a part of the Roosters 2000, 2003 and 2004 Grand Final outfits prior to signing with the Australian Rugby Union.

In this episode, Ryan shares his journey from a successful sporting career to making the giant leap into the world of commercial real estate. His story is both inspiring and relatable—transitioning from life as a full-time professional athlete straight out of school to navigating the challenges of becoming a professional businessman.

We also dive into our market wrap, covering property performance across the states. Western Australia stands out as an intriguing case study. We explore the high-end property market and its current performance, discuss cooling auction clearance rates and whether this signals a shift to a buyers’ market, and, as always, John Gibson shares his expert take on interest rates and investing in today’s property landscape.

A must listen, as we go all area’s and have a little fun along the way with the Executive Chairman of Yellow Brick Road and Australia’s leading podcaster with ‘The Mentor’ and ‘Straight Talk’. The former host of the Nine Network’s ‘The Apprentice’ and ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ as well as the ‘The Mentor’ on the Seven Network, Mark’s time on Australian screens has cemented his reputation as a trusted voice in finance and business. Mark Bouris the finance specialist taking on Australia’s banks, with his unique brand of charisma & curiosity sees his influence cut across multiple worlds from businesses large and small, to politics and sport. A brilliant entrepreneur Mark’s “tell it straight” attitude resonates with everyday Australians.

We look at Mark’s own journey growing up in Punchbowl inSouth Western Sydney, Mark’s property journey and the key people that advised him in those early days. We travel to the big end of town, and the business lessons learnt from Mr Kerry Packer. We look at Mark’s thoughts on the Australian property market over the next 12 months. We also acquire his advice for the younger generation looking to make their mark in the business world.

Welcome to Talking Real Estate with John Gibson we knowyou’ll enjoy!