Tangible Remnants

This episode is an edited recording from the February 2023 Live Show at the Octagon Museum featuring a conversation with Sarah Shoenfeld and Derek Musgrove. The focus of the discussion was on the work we've been doing to elevate 20th century Civil Rights sites and Black Power sites within Washington, DC.

Links:

• Black Power Sites in Washington, DC - website Derek mentioned
• 20th Century Civil Rights Sites in DC - website Sarah mentioned
• Chocolate City by Derek Musgrove & Chris Myers Asch
• Architects Foundation YouTube Channel
• DC Legacy Project
• Prologue DC
• Quinn Evans
• Tangible Remnants on Instagram
• Tangible Remnants Website
• LinkedTr.ee for resources
• Gabl Media Network
• Sarah Gilberg's Music

Bios:

Sarah Shoenfeld is an independent scholar and public historian in Washington DC. Her work has addressed the history and evolution of DC neighborhoods; the city’s racialized housing landscape and planning regime; the intersection of race and historic preservation; and the history of organizing for civil rights, Black power, and Black governance. She co-founded the digital public history project Mapping Segregation in Washington DC, which documents the historic extent of racially restricted housing in the District along with other mechanisms of segregation and displacement. She is also on the leadership team of the DC Legacy Project, which is working to secure the future public use of five historically landmarked public housing buildings for cultural and educational activities at Barry Farm, in Southeast DC.

George Derek Musgrove, Ph.D. is an Associate Professor of History and Africana Studies at the University of Maryland, Baltimore County. He earned his Ph.D. from New York University and is a current DC resident with his wife and two sons.  He is the author of:

•  Rumor, Repression, and Racial Politics: How the Harassment of Black Elected Officials Shaped Post-Civil Rights America (U. of Georgia, 2012), as well as the co-author, with Chris Myers Asch, of Chocolate City, A History of Race and Democracy in the Nation’s Capital (UNC, 2017),

In addition to being an author he also created a web-based map called “Black Power in Washington, D.C" which highlights Black Power activism in the nation’s capital. 

His work has appeared in the Washington Post, National Public Radio, the New York Times and The Root. He is currently working on a book project tentatively titled “We must take to the streets again”: The Black Power Resurgence in Conservative America, 1980-1997, which explores the burst of black activism that rose in opposition to the urban crisis and the conservative retrenchment. 

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This is a shorter episode than usual and features 2023 upcoming events and happenings

 Links:

• Tickets for 2/15/23 live show
• Derek's book - Chocolate City: A history of Race and Democracy
• Andrew's book - A Better Life for Their Children: Julius Rosenwald, Booker T. Washington, and the 4,978 schools that changed America
• Video of Andrew's Rosenwald School presentation
• Tangible Remnants on Instagram
• Tangible Remnants Website
• LinkedTr.ee for resources
• Gabl Media Network
• Sarah Gilberg's Music

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This week's episode features a conversation with Jessica, Elizabeth (Lizi), and Norgerie of She Builds Podcast. Their podcast features the seldom-told stories of women who build; women whose worth is not taught in schools, but who have shaped the industries of architecture, construction, and development over the last century. They started the podcast after architecture school basically to help fill in the gaps in their education.  You'll have to listen to the episode to get the full story but let's just say I'm glad they accepted the challenge.

There are so many amazing tangents and connections that we discuss in this episode.  From Lina Bo Bardi to Florence Nightingdale to the Founders behind the Knoll furniture line. You're in for a treat!

Building Highlight: Museu de Arte de São Paulo Assis Chateaubriand designed by Lina Bo Bardi in Brazil.

Links:

• She Builds Podcast
• Aino & Elssa Aalto Episode 45 of She Builds Podcast
• Lina Bobardi Episode 37 of She Builds Podcast
• Tangible Remnants on Instagram
• Tangible Remnants Website
• LinkedTr.ee for resources
• Gabl Media Network
• Sarah Gilberg's Music

Bios: She Builds Podcast is a podcast featuring the seldom-told stories of women who build; women whose worth is not taught in schools, but who have shaped the industries of architecture, construction, and development over the last century. The podcast was started by three friends who, after graduating from architecture school together, wanted to fill in the gaps in their education and share those with others.

Elizabeth Raar, RA, NCARB, Project Architect, Polsky Perlstein Architects - Larkspur, California - is a licensed Project Architect, originally from West Michigan, who graduated from Syracuse University. Currently, she works for Polsky Perlstein Architects in Marin County, California on single-family residential projects. She enjoys making a project functional yet beautiful for the client. 

Elizabeth is also committed to promoting women in the AEC profession through co-hosting “She Builds Podcast”. On the podcast, they feature stories of women in history who have shaped the built environment and industry. Elizabeth loves sharing stories of women who haven’t been showcased in the past, in the hopes that women will play a more equal part in future architectural history.

Jessica Rogers Assoc. AIA, Content Creator & Host, She Builds Podcast, Miami, FL - is a content creator based in her hometown of Miami, Florida. Jessica attended Design and Architecture Senior High, a magnet art school in Miami's design district. She earned her Bachelor of Architecture degree from Syracuse University, where she also served as treasurer and historian for her NOMAS chapter.

Jessica has spent over four years working at the National Headquarters of the American Institute of Architects. At the AIA, she managed and developed EDI-related programming and resources for emerging professionals and women in the profession. She continues this charge as the co-host of She Builds Podcast, elevating women in the AEC industry through storytelling.

Norgerie Rivas, Architectural Associate, eStudio Architecture - Houston, Texas - is an Architectural Associate from Puerto Rico who graduated from Syracuse University, where she served in the council of the Architecture Students Organization. Today she works for eStudio Architecture in Houston, Texas. There she has worked on commercial, healthcare, aviation, and retail architecture projects from design through construction. 

She is passionate about celebrating and elevating women in her field through mentorship and advocacy. This led to her co-founding and co-hosting “She Builds Podcast”, featuring the stories of women who have shaped the industries of building design and construction throughout history and today. Norgerie hopes to share the stories of women in the AEC industry and to inspire future, new, and experienced people in the profession.

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This week's episode features a conversation with Emmy-nominated producer, Sidney Clifton.  She is the daughter of Maryland laureate, Lucille Clifton, and launched the Clifton House Project: a writer’s and artist’s workshop and retreat space centered at her childhood home in Baltimore, Maryland. We chat about some of her mother's work and the vision for the house.

Photo copyright Mike Morgan, Baltimore Magazine.

Building Highlight: The Clifton House in Baltimore, MD.  

Links:

• Host an event at The Clifton House
• Tangible Remnants on Instagram
• Tangible Remnants Website
• LinkedTr.ee for resources
• Gabl Media Network
• Sarah Gilberg's Music

Bio: Sidney Clifton is a Emmy-nominated producer and has over twenty years of experience as an executive producer, director, casting director and production executive overseeing animated, mixed-media and live-action content. She has produced hundreds of hours of episodic and longform content.

She currently serves as Senior Vice President of Animation and Mixed Media at The Jim Henson Company, where she oversees a slate of twenty projects in production and development. As Senior Consultant with Black Women Animate, she provides business development and creative growth strategies to support the company’s expansion in the animation industry. In her role as mentor and recruiter, she has been a featured presenter and guest at high schools, colleges and universities across North America. She was honored to give commencement addresses at Idylwild Arts Academy and Ringling College of Art and Design.

Ms. Clifton’s passion for developing and supporting the underserved community of writers, artists, storytellers and creators was the catalyst for her launching The Clifton House (www.thecliftonhouse.co); a writer’s and artist’s workshop and retreat space centered at her childhood home in Baltimore Maryland—the home she shared with her five siblings and parents, educator/activist Fred J. Clifton and National Book Award winning poet and author Lucille Clifton.

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This episode features a conversation with visionary Shellie Baxter, a genetic genealogist and Founder of Our Genetic Legacy (OGL). OGL is a non-profit that is undertaking a number of projects across a number of professions.

We cover a range of topics. From exploring your DNA to discovering your personal history, to architecture design contests, and training the next generation of drone pilots in LIDAR technology - Shellie talks through how all these items work together.

Links:

• Our Genetic Legacy on Instagram
• Our Genetic Legacy's website
• Our Genetic Legacy's LinkTree
• Zipline Drones delivering blood in Rwanda
• Africa Town project
• UPenn 3D printing drones
• Tangible Remnants on Instagram
• Tangible Remnants Website
• LinkedTr.ee for resources
• Gabl Media Network
• Sarah Gilberg's Music

Background: Shellie Baxter is a Social Impact Scientist who is taking space in the Metaverse to preserve BIPOC history using genetics and drones.  She started Our Genetic Legacy in 2018 in response to her frustration with the lack of recognition and the disenfranchisement of BIPOC Americans in American history. Correcting the systemic erasure of BIPOCs and memorializing their lives for future generations is her passion and focus. Seeing the impact of her genealogical work in the lives of her family inspires her to teach and share her research methodology that she calls Legacy Tracing™. Ms. Baxter's own family legacy story, knowing the struggles her ancestors overcame for her to even exist, ignites her passion to help others find their legacy story.

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This episode features a candid conversation with Marques Moore of Moore Architecture. We reminiscence about our time at UVA in the Architecture program, talk about career paths, and the importance of having a support system.

Building Highlight: UVA Memorial to the Enslaved. This memorial "beautifully captures the tenor of those community conversations, honors the lives, labor, and resistance of the 4-5,000 enslaved people who lived and worked at UVA at some point between 1817 and 1865. The memorial includes 4,000 memory marks in their honor."

Links:

• Moore Architecture
• Say It Loud - North Carolina
• Tangible Remnants on Instagram
• Tangible Remnants Website
• LinkedTr.ee for resources
• Gabl Media Network
• Sarah Gilberg's Music
• Email me for project suggestions or to join the team

Bio: Marques Moore is a Principal Architect based in Charlotte, NC. Marques earned a Bachelor’s of Science in Architecture with a minor in Urban Planning from the University of Virginia (UVA) and also holds a Bachelor’s of Architecture from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte (UNCC). He is licensed to practice architecture in North Carolina and South Carolina.

Marques practices architecture with his father Kelvin L. Moore at the family-owned firm Moore Architecture, which was founded in 1992. Marques manages the company’s North Carolina and South Carolina projects while Kelvin is responsible for Virginia. Under their leadership, Moore Architecture has successfully completed over 575 projects and maintains a diverse portfolio of project types including commercial, residential, educational, institutional, religious, healthcare, hospitality, and recreation.

Moore Architecture identifies architectural solutions that respond to the specific needs of its clients by incorporating a philosophy of collaboration, interaction, and purposeful delivery. Their diverse project experience has taught them to resolve complex issues and provide simple solutions for difficult construction objectives. Moore Architecture’s mission is to assist in the successful development of conceptual and buildable projects with thoughtfulness, vision, and professionalism. They believe that architecture should be accessible and available to all people, regardless of project size and budget. 

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This week's episode explores the connection between housing and health with Dr. Lawrence T. Brown.  We cover his journey into Public Health research and dig into more of the topics covered in his book, Black Butterfly: The Harmful Politics of Race and Space in America including toxic lead exposure, fast violence vs. slow violence, and segronomics.

Building Highlight: Turner Station neighborhood in Baltimore County.

Links:

• Greenbuild: https://informaconnect.com/greenbuild/
• NOMA: https://www.noma.net/conference/
• NTHP: https://savingplaces.org/conference#.YwjcRHbMKUk
• Bob Berkebile
• Baltimore Heritage: Five Minute Histories: Henrietta Lacks & Turner Station
• Immortal cells of Henrietta Lacks
• The Black Butterfly project
• Tangible Remnants on Instagram
• Tangible Remnants Website
• LinkedTr.ee for resources
• Gabl Media Network
• Sarah Gilberg's Music

Bio: Dr. Lawrence T. Brown is an equity scientist, urban Afrofuturist, and the director of the Black Butterfly Academy, which is a virtual racial equity education and consulting firm. From 2013-2019, he served as an assistant and associate professor at Morgan State University in the School of Community Health and Policy.  In June 2018, he was honored by OSI Baltimore with the Bold Thinker award for sparking critical discourse regarding Baltimore’s racial segregation. 

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This week's episode features an interview with Ira Matt. Ira is the Director of the Office of Native American Affairs at the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation.

We cover a lot of cultural nuances in the conversation. Ultimately it comes back to compassion. If you're interested in working with any of the tribal nations or curious how to navigate working with people of different backgrounds then this is definitely an episode for you.

 Links:

• Advisory Council on Historic Preservation (ACHP)
• ACHP Native American Policies
• Tangible Remnants on Instagram
• Tangible Remnants Website
• LinkedTr.ee for resources
• Gabl Media Network
• Sarah Gilberg's Music

Bio: Ira Matt

Ira Matt has more than 22 years of historic preservation and cultural resources management experience at both the tribal and federal levels. He began working at the ACHP in 2015 as a program analyst in the Office of Federal Agency Programs. In 2018, he moved to ONAA as a senior program analyst, where he led ONAA’s traditional knowledge initiative and co-authored the ACHP’s Early Coordination with Indian Tribes handbook. He also served on several committees of the White House Council on Native American Affairs.

Before joining the ACHP, he worked for the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes for 16 years in varying capacities, including as Tribal Historic Preservation Officer, resource advisor, tribal archaeologist, and as a wildland firefighter. During this time, he regularly worked with the Cultural Committees and Elder Advisory Boards, Tribal Council, and Salish Kootenai College to generate positive outcomes in cultural resource management by implementing historic preservation as a tool to effectuate cultural perpetuation.

Ira Matt’s prior federal experience includes serving as the Federal Preservation Officer/National Archaeologist for the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Natural Resources Conservation Service and as a tribal affairs specialist for the Department of Energy.

Ira is Salish and an enrolled member of the Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes of western Montana. He received his BA and MA in anthropology from the University of Montana and a Master of Jurisprudence in Indian Law from the University of Tulsa College of Law.

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This week's episode features a conversation from the AIA Conference on Architecture 2022. I joined the Architecture is Political Podcast host Melissa Daniel to chat all things NOMA (National Organization of Minority Architects) with Pascale Sablan FAIA, NOMA, LEED AP and Tiffany Brown MBA, NOMA, Assoc. AIA. In this episode, Pascale talks about how NOMA has impacted her career and the importance of connection.

To listen to Tiffany’s portion of the interview, please check out the Architecture is Political podcast.

 Links:

• Architecture is Political: Tiffany Brown episode
• Beyond the Built
• Adjaye Associates
• Tangible Remnants on Instagram
• Tangible Remnants Website
• LinkedTr.ee for resources
• Gabl Media Network
• Sarah Gilberg's Music

Bios:

Pascale Sablan, FAIA, NOMA, LEED AP is an Associate at Adjaye Associates, with over 14 years of experience, has been on the team for a variety of projects around the world. She studied Architecture at Pratt Institute, then pursued a Master of Science in Advanced Architectural Design at Columbia University. Pascale is the 315th living African-American, woman registered architect in the U.S. She is an activist architect who works to advance architecture for the betterment of society, bring visibility and voice to the issues concerning women and BIPOC designers. She founded the Beyond the Built Environment organization positioned to uniquely address the inequitable disparities in architecture. Pascale was awarded the 2021 AIA Whitney M. Young Jr. Award for her advocacy efforts and ascended to the AIA College of Fellows, the youngest African American to reach that honor. In 2020 Pascale was voted President-Elect of the National Organization of Minority Architecture, the 5th woman to hold this position of leadership.

Tiffany D. Brown is the Executive Director of the National Organization of Minority Architects. Brown is a co-founder of the Urban Arts Collective, a nonprofit focused on increasing underrepresented groups in careers in science, technology, engineering, art and architecture, and mathematics. Brown is a passionate leader within NOMA and the architecture industry, recognized by the American Institute of Architects (AIA) with 2020 Associates Awards for outstanding leadership and creative thinking in her communities and the architecture profession. She was awarded the AIA Detroit and Michigan honors in 2019. Brown held national NOMA board leadership positions and is also a founding member of NOMA Detroit. Brown created 400 FORWARD, which aims to seek the next 400 women architects with an underlying focus on African American girls through access to education on design through provided programming and scholarships. Her work with the organization was recently featured in a new documentary in partnership with Target, “Design for All.” Previously, she worked at SmithGroup and Hamilton Anderson Associates in Detroit. Brown earned her B.Arch, M.Arch and MBA from Lawrence Technological University.

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This week's episode features a conversation from the summer of 2020 between me and with Bo Tayloe. We were both invited down to Menokin by the Menokin Foundation and interviewed by Michael Beller as part of the Foundation's series "In the Glass with Menokin". This series sought to bring together individuals for thought provoking conversations about their lived experiences and shared connections to Menokin's past, present, and future.

Menokin was home to one of the Virginia signers of the Declaration of Independence, Francis Lightfoot Lee, his wife, Rebecca Tayloe, and various enslaved people.

Bo Tayloe and I met for the first time about 15 minutes before the record button was pressed so what you'll hear is us getting to know each other and sharing our perspectives on the site: me as someone who's ancestors would have been enslaved and him as someone who's ancestors would have done the enslaving. It was an interesting day and talking with Bo was a highlight of my summer that year.

Building Highlight: Menokin in Warsaw VA

Links:

• Oprah's Future Rising Series - Nakita & Kia
• Oprah's Future Rising Series - Full
• Episode 4: Brent Leggs
• Episode 14: w/ Kia Weatherspoon
• Montpelier Story as covered by Cultural Heritage Partners
• Montpelier Structural Parity
• In the Glass with Menokin: Episode 2 Nakita & Bo
• Tangible Remnants on Instagram
• Tangible Remnants Website
• LinkedTr.ee for resources
• Gabl Media Network
• Sarah Gilberg's Music

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