We convene three guests to discuss 25 years of the iPod, the consumer hardware End of History, and the possibility of a new consumer hardware Cambrian Explosion.

Hosts Francis Zierer and Daisy Alioto are joined by:

Molly Mary O'Brien is a freelance video editor and writer living in Los Angeles, California. She is the writer behind the blog “I enjoy Music,” and the host of a podcast about words about music called “And Introducing.”

Liz Dorman is a technologist, design engineer, and world wanderer. She is a co-founder of Era, a company working to usher in a new era of computing with an intelligence layer for physical devices.

Joy Howard is the Chief Marketing Officer at Back Market, a global marketplace for refurbished electronics. Previously, she’s held similar roles at Lyft, Sonos, Patagonia, Nike, and Coca Cola. Before she got he business degree, she was the vocalist in a shoegaze band, playing with acts like Cat Power and Modest Mouse in the 90s.

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00:00 The iPod's Legacy and Impact

03:04 Personal Experiences with the iPod

06:00 Nostalgia and Cultural Shifts

08:54 The Evolution of Music Consumption

12:05 The Aesthetics of the iPod

14:55 The Right to Repair Movement

17:57 The Future of Consumer Electronics

21:07 The Afterlife of the iPod

24:07 Generational Perspectives on Music Devices

26:55 The Role of Music in Youth Culture

30:06 The Future of Technology and Human Interaction

In a new format for Tasteland, hosts Daisy and Francis spoke to three expert guests about the state and future of men's media.

We set out to discuss a notion posed by our first guest, John McDermott — that we need The Cut for men.

Over three guest conversations, woven together here, we cover the business, output, and social implications of that position.

John McDermott is a Los Angeles-based journalist covering arts, entertainment, business, and media, with bylines in The New York Times, WIRED, Esquire, the Chicago Tribune, and more. He was an early staff writer at MEL Magazine and previously covered the digital media industry at Digiday.

Alana Hope Levinson is a features editor at WIRED and a writer and editor with deep roots in digital culture, gender, and longform journalism. She previously served as deputy editor at MEL Magazine, overseeing features and special projects, and spent five years running her own editorial consultancy before joining WIRED in late 2025.

Chris Gayomali is a writer and editor currently serving as editor of SSENSE. He was previously articles editor at GQ — and before that, site editor of GQ.com — where he edited features and longform work. He also writes HEAVIES, a newsletter about health, wellness, and modern ways of feeling good. Finally, Chris is the host of a new podcast about steroids and the "Enhanced Games," SUPERHUMAN.

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00:00 We're Exploring the Future of Men's Media

03:09 The Need for Quality Men's Content

06:07 Woke and Men's Media

09:08 First-Person Narratives in Men's Magazine Writing

11:54 Masculinities in Modern Media

15:07 Social Media's Influence on Men

17:57 Male Representation in Publishing

20:50 The Intersection of Gender and Media Economics

23:57 Opportunities and Challenges Facing Men's Media

39:44 Consumption Patterns in Men's Media

42:30 How Media is Shaping Masculinity

45:49 Economic Anxiety and Male Identity

52:42 The Crisis of Male Identity and Radicalization

57:40 The Need for a New Narrative in Men's Media

01:01:20The Future of Media Consumption and Male Identity

No guest this week. Daisy and Francis discuss the concept of 'The Great Slowdown' as a response to media overload and the desire for deeper engagement with content, the idea of 'vibes gambling' in media, and Dirt's recent contest for essays on health and wealth.

00:00 Transitioning to a New Format

03:11 The Great Slowdown: A Response to Media Overload

05:58 Vibes Gambling: The New Media Economy

09:02 Creating Meaningful Engagement in Media

11:59 Exploring Wealth and Health Through Personal Narratives

15:50 The Impact of Social Media on Mental Health

21:59 The Future of Digital Interaction and Content Creation

Raihan Anwar is a marketing leader for web3 products and communities at scale. He was a co-founder of FWB and also has his own fragrance business in addition to being a coffee connoisseur – all things we love talking about on this pod.

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00:00 Navigating Travel Chaos

02:25 Enter Raihan: The Intersection of Culture and Business

06:01 Exploring Fragrance and Identity

08:53 The Art of Taste and Experience

12:11 Podcasting Landscape and Market Dynamics

15:34 The New Media Landscape

17:16 Web 0.5 and Early Internet Ventures

19:22 Coining Terms and Cultural Commentary

25:37 The State of Web3 and Cryptocurrency

30:03 Guy Hobbies and Their Cultural Significance

31:45 Stripe Press and Innovative Publishing

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Elliot Aronow is the host/producer of minor genius, a culture imprint that publishes zines, hosts parties, and occasionally produces very handsome neckties. Inside that there's also a very discreet private studio where he works as an editor/co-conspirator with visible weirdos to ship finished artifacts.

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00:00 A year as a degenerate gambler

04:00 What is minor genius?

08:25 The tension between punk and preppy

18:46 Reading in public

22:25 Scene vs audience

24:49 Jiu jitsu midlife journey

27:25 A scene memoir

33:08 Never going to be a Beastie Boy

37:42 Artifacts of the 2020s

41:18 What sucks about menswear?

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Jesse Hirsch is editor of Offrange. He has spent years working as a journalist focused on food and agriculture, most recently as managing editor at The Counter. His work has appeared in The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Guardian, San Francisco Chronicle, Bon Appétit, Eater, and other outlets.

Offrange is a digital publication covering American agriculture, food production, and natural resources. We publish three original stories each week, a monthly podcast, and a weekly newsletter.

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00:00 Laptop at the cinema

04:15 Sod and cranberry bog

07:15 Offrange and its mission

15:35 Knowing when to rebrand

19:57 The best meal of 2026

21:45 Covering agriculture vs food

27:27 The farming and agriculture audience

33:40 Diversification of writers and contributors

35:45 The evolution of agricultural journalism

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No guest this week on Tasteland, so Daisy and Francis discuss books they haven't read, iPods, a sad monkey, and the state of modern media startups.

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00:00 Monitoring the situation

02:35 The barbell of modern media

09:11 The 4 revenue streams of a media startup

13:33 Sober in New Orleans

18:26 Health is wealth

24:45 A bit vague

26:59 Texting less, going out more

28:54 25 years of iPod brain

32:46 Punch, the monkey

38:25 Stolen taste

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This week we're joined by Pritanka Desai, the COO at Tribute Labs & Partner at ADIN.

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The Physical Renaissance: AI Makes You Look Up

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00:00 Hammy Mad Men

04:38 Doomslop moving markets

12:06 The world's transition period in now

17:00 Information overload affecting perception of reality

23:24 Prediction market's role in society

30:27 True crime and information gaps

38:30 AI powered venture capital

45:05 The physical renaissance

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Today on Tasteland we're speaking to James Webster, the co-owner of Recluse Books, an indie bookstore in Dallas-Fort Worth.

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00:00 Doing Italian things

03:53 Recluse best sellers

07:28 Logistics of picking and stocking 6,000 books

11:40 Bookstore culture of Fort Worth

15:05 Receiving feedback on book recommendations

17:11 Current reads

24:15 Running bookstore events

29:47 Bookstore location and community impact

36:04 Making books approachable

41:57 Reading hard books because they're hard

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Charly Wilder is writer, award-winning journalist and executive editor at Roads & Kingdoms.

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00:00 Respect the Quad God

05:45 Maintaining a unique travel journalism perspective

10:51 Looking at the world through many lenses

17:10 The deepest culinary tours on Earth

23:50 The Roads and Kingdoms audience

28:57 Curating contributors

34:16 Joining the Roads and Kingdoms team

37:36 Maintaining and updating city guides

45:03 Thinking about food as a storyteller

48:14 The qualities of a great travel and food writer

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