I open almost every episode by asking for the origin story, because pain drives purpose, and Andra McHugh's is one of the clearer examples I have heard. Her third baby was essentially born with eczema. Her two year old came down with it the way you come down with a cold, a small patch on the inside of a thigh that took over her whole body. The pediatrician's plan was two steroid creams caustic enough that Andra was told to glove up before applying them. She walked out with the resolve to solve it another way, and her account is that all four of her children healed without pharmaceuticals.

What I wanted from her was the order of operations, and she gives it plainly. Food first, because it is the one thing a parent can change at the next meal. Then symptom relief, so a child can sleep, using an herbal oil, a comfort spray and a tallow cream rather than anything the liver has to work harder to clear. Then the home, then supplements, and only then testing. We spend real time on the parts most people skip: pairing foods so they actually digest, why fermented foods and bone broth can work against a high histamine child even though they are treated as gut health staples, and how butyrate and the short chain fatty acids feed the cells that hold the gut lining together. We also talk honestly about what raises the degree of difficulty, from a course of antibiotics to a C section to the glyphosate that a farmer at my own market told me is in everything grown around here. None of that is a reason to give up. It is a reason to understand why your child is where they are, and then to change the terrain.

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Andra McHugh is the founder of Eczema Kids and the creator of the Eczema Elimination Method. She came to this work as a parent rather than a clinician. With a one month old and a two year old both breaking out head to toe, the plan she was offered was two steroid prescriptions, gloves for her own hands, bleach in the bath, and hope. She built her approach on her own four children instead, and she now teaches it to families around the world.

Her work focuses on lowering inflammation, interrupting the flare cycle, and rebuilding the skin barrier from the inside out through food, gut support, a lower toxic load at home, and children's skin care she formulates herself. She also hosts the Eczema Kids Podcast.

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Every so often the simplest thing turns out to be the most powerful, and this conversation is a good example. Dr. Sachin Patel is the founder of the Living Proof Institute and a longtime leader in functional and lifestyle medicine, and he has spent the last few years going deep on something all of us are already doing, and almost none of us are doing on purpose: breathing. His premise is that the breath is the most overlooked system in the body, a two-way door to the nervous system that you can use to shift how you feel, focus, and recover.

We get practical. Sachin walks through the BOLT score as a way to find your baseline, why he is a fan of nose breathing, and how to build breath awareness in small, repeatable ways rather than adding one more protocol to your day. What I appreciate most is his framing as a precision wellness practitioner: take the things you are already doing and do them with awareness and precision, and health gets a lot more accessible. He is generous too, giving away most of his breathwork tools for free. If you have been chasing complicated fixes, this is a reminder that one of the most powerful levers you have is the next breath.

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Dr. Sachin Patel, DC, is the founder of the Living Proof Institute and a globally recognized leader in functional and lifestyle medicine. A chiropractor who moved into functional medicine in 2006 and then into what he calls precision wellness, he has delivered hundreds of workshops, reached millions through his videos and online teaching, and become a passionate advocate for a healthcare model built around the body's own capacity to heal. His current focus is breathwork, which he considers one of the most profound and most overlooked tools we have for the nervous system and overall health.

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An engineer is trained to ask one question over and over: what is the actual root cause? Nicole Bell asked it about her own husband, and the answer changed her life's work. Nicole Bell is an MIT and Duke trained engineer, the author of the memoir What Lurks in the Woods, and the CEO of Galaxy Diagnostics, and she came on TBD Fit to tell me a story I have not stopped thinking about. When her husband Russ began to decline, the diagnosis was early-onset Alzheimer's, a door that in his case seemed to close on any real answers. Nicole kept asking why, and what she eventually uncovered, a hidden tick-borne infection, moved her from caregiver to advocate working to get stealth pathogens taken seriously in neurodegenerative disease. We get into her story, the diagnostic gaps she ran into, and why the root cause question belongs even in medicine's hardest cases. This is an emerging area of science, and Nicole is careful about what is known and what still needs proving.

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Nicole Bell is an engineer, entrepreneur, and author with degrees from MIT and Duke and more than twenty years in medical devices and diagnostics. After her husband Russ was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's and later found to have tick borne infections, she chronicled their search for answers in her memoir What Lurks in the Woods. Today she is the CEO of Galaxy Diagnostics, a company focused on detecting stealth and vector borne pathogens, and an advocate working with the Center for Lyme Action and Project Lyme to push for better recognition of hidden infections in chronic and neurodegenerative disease.

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Lindsey Wells got into this the way a lot of good clinicians do, by meeting one patient. A teenager with autism came through her rotations in naturopathic school and brightened every room he walked into, and she decided that was the population she wanted. A decade later, most of her practice is children with autism, PANS and PANDAS, and tick-borne illness, and a lot of her attention sits on one specific mechanism: cerebral folate deficiency. Not enough folate in the brain, which is a different question from whether there is enough in the body. She describes autoantibodies that bind the folate receptors on the blood-brain barrier and block the door, and she is clear about how much that changes the workup once you know to ask.

We spend real time on what she does with that information. Removing animal dairy is her first move, and she explains the molecular mimicry logic behind it. High-dose folinic acid is the second, and she is candid that the prescription version, leucovorin, often gets prescribed below a therapeutic dose by clinicians unfamiliar with the condition. She also walks through what she watches for when a child titrates up too fast. Then we get into the part of her practice I did not expect to be so central: infection. Her line about being more concerned with the ticks she does not find than the ones she does stayed with me, and so did her framing of what she calls constant flares, where the old relapsing-and-remitting pattern stops showing up at all. Her own research now puts numbers on some of this, and she talks about what she is working on next. To me, this is not a vitamin deficiency story. It is a transport story.

This conversation is for education only and is not medical advice. Testing and treatment decisions for a child belong with your own clinician. Dr. Wells has a commercial interest in the supplement and herbal products discussed.

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Dr. Lindsey Wells is a naturopathic physician and a Fellow of the Medical Academy of Pediatrics and Special Needs, practicing in Trumbull, Connecticut. Her work centers on children with autism, PANS and PANDAS, and vector-borne illness, and she trained and practiced alongside Dr. Nancy O'Hara.

She is the first author of a 2024 study in the Journal of Personalized Medicine examining folate receptor alpha autoantibodies in a PANS and PANDAS population, and a 2026 follow-up in Diseases looking at the same antibodies in patients with vector-borne illness. She is a past president of the Connecticut Naturopathic Physicians Association, the author of the children's book Super Sam and the Battle Against PANS/PANDAS, and the founder of the Well-Minded Mommas Club. She also founded WellSupplements, a herbal glycerite company.

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I have spent the better part of a decade on this show talking about the microbiome, so it was a treat to give a full episode to the other bacterial system we carry around: the mitochondria. Sundeep Dugar has been in drug discovery for more than 35 years. Sixteen years ago a set of cardiology data out of UC San Diego sent him down a road nobody had mapped. Everyone agrees exercise is good for you. Everyone agrees exercise builds mitochondria. Nobody could tell him how. That question became his life's work.

We cover a lot of ground. What mitochondria actually do, why he calls them the sentinel of your health, how mitophagy slows as cellular energy drops so damaged mitochondria start to pile up, and why the food you eat and the microbiome that processes it decide what your mitochondria have to work with. He explains the steroid his team identified in exercising cells, 11-beta-hydroxypregnenolone, and the cacao flavanol epicatechin that mimics its signal. He is also careful about what he will not claim, including whether any of it replaces training. It does not. And we land where I always land: master the foundation first. Eat right, sleep right, move right, talk right, poop right, to feel right. Then let the science do the rest.

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Sundeep Dugar, PhD is a medicinal chemist and drug discovery scientist with more than 35 years of work across oncology, neuromuscular disease, cardiovascular health, inflammation, central nervous system conditions, and metabolic disease. He is a co-inventor of Zetia (ezetimibe) and Vytorin, holds more than 100 issued and applied patents, has authored over 70 publications, and received the 2005 National Inventor of the Year Award from the Intellectual Property Owners Association along with the American Chemical Society's 2004 Heroes of Chemistry Award.

For the past 16 years his work has centered on mitochondrial bioenergetics. He is a co-founder of Blue Oak Nutraceuticals, a public benefit corporation built around the cacao and green tea flavanol epicatechin and its role in mitochondrial biogenesis. He describes himself, cheerfully, as a mitochondriac.

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On this episode, I sit down with Dr. Pat McShane, who spent about 40 years in reproductive medicine and fertility before turning her attention to women's healthspan. We talk about why so much of conventional care was built on male standards, and why so many women reach midlife feeling dismissed. Dr. McShane walks through what she learned across four decades, from the early days of IVF to the factors that shape fertility today, including body composition, environmental toxins, and the reproductive-tract microbiome.

From there we get into hormones. Dr. McShane distinguishes bioidentical hormones from the older synthetic formulations that drove decades of fear, and she favors individualized care guided by how a woman actually feels rather than a single lab number. True to the foundation five, we keep coming back to the basics: sleep, nutrition, movement, and stress. Her parting advice is one every woman should hear: do not take no for an answer, and do not accept limitation as just part of getting older. Stay healthy, stay wealthy my friends.

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Dr. Pat McShane is an OB/GYN and fertility specialist with roughly 40 years in reproductive medicine, from the early days of IVF and donor-egg programs through decades of clinical practice. After navigating her own menopause and finding that most health information was written for and about men, she turned her focus to women's healthspan: prevention, clinical strategy, and lifestyle for women in perimenopause, menopause, and beyond. She shares that work through Women's HealthSpan.

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In this episode, I sit down with Ashok Gupta, who got into this work the hard way. He was an undergraduate at Cambridge in the mid-nineties, burning the candle at both ends, when a virus knocked him down and never fully let go. He could not read a page. He had no energy. His doctor told him there was no treatment and he might have it for life. His response was to go find the answer himself, which in the pre-internet era meant a bookstore and a shelf of neuroscience. He wrote his own thesis on what he thought was happening in the brain, retrained himself out of it in about six months, and has spent 30 years since then building that into a program.

His hypothesis is the heart of the conversation. He calls these neuro-immune conditioned syndromes: the immune and nervous systems mount a defense, the body is already depleted so the defense runs hot, and then the symptoms of that defense get read by the brain as evidence the threat is still there. The loop feeds itself. His fairy-tale analogy for it is genuinely good, and I would rather you hear him tell it. What I appreciated most is that he does not pitch this as the whole answer. He works alongside functional medicine, he is direct that regulation has to come before retraining, and his line about being "in the industry of habit formation" is one I will be repeating to patients. We also get practical: diaphragmatic breathing, alternate nostril breathing, and why he wants the breath work and the meditation stacked back to back rather than done separately. We are currently living in mold in my own household, so this one was not academic for me. I have already asked him back for a round two.

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About the Guest:

Ashok Gupta is the founder of the Gupta Program, a neuroplasticity-based brain retraining protocol for chronic conditions including ME/CFS, fibromyalgia, long COVID, mold illness and chronic Lyme. He is an internationally recognized speaker, filmmaker and health practitioner.

He developed ME/CFS as an undergraduate at Cambridge in the mid-1990s and was told there was no treatment available. He wrote his own hypothesis on the neurology behind the condition, retrained his brain out of it over roughly six months, and then spent about twelve years in one-on-one clinical practice before publishing the protocol in 2007. The program now runs as an app with weekly webinars and daily live sessions, and his amygdala and insula retraining approach has been examined in published research, including a randomized controlled trial in people with long COVID.

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Website: https://guptaprogram.com
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We spend decades trying to kill our microbes, then wonder why we can't heal. In this episode of TBD Fit, I sit down with Dr. Dushyant Viswanathan (Dr. DV), a triple board-certified integrative internist, to rethink chronic disease from the gut up. We get into why so many of us are walking around with a "sterilized" microbiome, the difference between prebiotic and antibiotic forces acting on the body, and how the gut talks to the brain, hormones, and immune system. It's an honest, ground-up conversation about what real healing actually asks of us, and it's only part one.

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Dr. Dushyant Viswanathan (Dr. DV) is a triple board-certified integrative internist specializing in enteroimmunology and endocrinology, with a focus on chronic disease reversal. He is the founder and chief medical officer of the Columbia Center for Integrative Medicine (CCIM), with locations in Maryland, Los Angeles, and Charleston. Since founding CCIM in 2012, he and his team have worked with thousands of patients on chronic conditions including thyroid disorders, diabetes, chronic fatigue, and autoimmune issues, blending Eastern and Western thinking around the central role of the microbiome.

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A cancer diagnosis can feel like the ground disappearing. Dr. Michael Karlfeldt's message is that the ground you build long before then, and the team you build after, both matter.

On this episode of TBD Fit, I sit down with Dr. Michael Karlfeldt for a prevention-first, whole-person conversation about cancer risk. We talk about the lifestyle foundations he believes shape resilience, the labs he watches to catch problems early, and how he counsels people to slow down, get educated, and build a team, an integrative practitioner working alongside their oncologist, if a diagnosis comes. This is an educational conversation about an integrative point of view, not medical advice or a treatment plan. Nothing here is a substitute for care from a qualified oncologist and medical team.

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Dr. Michael Karlfeldt, ND is a naturopathic doctor with more than three decades in natural and integrative medicine. Originally from Sweden, he founded The Karlfeldt Center in Boise, Idaho, an integrative healing center, and his work centers on a whole-person, root-cause approach used alongside conventional care.

He is an author and hosts several health podcasts, including Integrative Cancer Solutions, sharing his integrative perspective with a wide audience.

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In this episode I sat down with John Nieters, and it is one of my favorite kinds of conversations, where an ancient tradition and modern science turn out to be describing the same things in different languages. John has spent a lifetime in Traditional Chinese Medicine, and he walks through how much a trained practitioner can read from the tongue and pulse, and how those observations line up with what we now understand about the body.

What stayed with me is his insistence on starting with the gut. He points back to a text from 1243 to make the case that if you don't fix digestion first, you spend the rest of your time chasing symptoms. We also talk about his approach to lasting change, building rituals instead of relying on discipline, and calming the nervous system so the body can actually do its work. It is a rich, grounded bridge between East and West. Stay healthy, stay wealthy.

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About the Guest:

John Nieters is an acupuncturist, herbalist, and educator with decades of practice in Traditional Chinese Medicine, including doctoral training in gynecological endocrinology and a past role as an acupuncture-school president. He practices at The Balancing Point, where he blends classical TCM diagnosis with modern functional medicine.

He also hosts a podcast and teaches widely, with a particular focus on the gut as the foundation of health.

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