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Beatrice speaks with Melissa Gira Grant about “Alligator Alcatraz,” Trump’s new concentration camp in Florida. We discuss what the site means for the US under new, swelling ICE budgets, how it reflects a fascist fantasy of using the landscape as an arm of carceral enforcement, and the hope we can take from the long history of anti-colonial and anti-supremacist resistance movements on the very same land.

Read Melissa's piece, "The Grand Opening of an American Concentration Camp," here: https://newrepublic.com/article/197508/alligator-alcatraz-trump-concentration-camp

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