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Beatrice and Tracy speak with Bench Ansfield about their new book charting the rise of the FIRE economy (finance, insurance, real estate) in the 1970s and how this new evolution of racial capitalism led landlords to set fire to their own buildings in the Bronx and throughout the US, placing the blame on—and pathologizing—the very tenants they were dispossessing.

Find Bench's book, Born in Flames: The Business of Arson and the Remaking of the American City, here: https://bookshop.org/a/118130/9781324093510

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After many, many requests we're testing out a new Bookshop.org page (still under construction), where you can find books by past guests and book recommendations from the hosts. Find it here: https://bookshop.org/shop/deathpanel

Show links:

Get Health Communism here: https://bookshop.org/a/118130/9781839765179

Find Tracy's book Abolish Rent here: https://bookshop.org/a/118130/9798888902523