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Here is a teaser segment of an interview recorded Wednesday evening just before we learned that Putin had invaded Ukraine.

Yasha Levine is a Soviet-American immigrant, the author of "Surveillance Valley: The Secret Military History of the Internet," and co-host of the podcast "The Russians."

You can find his writing at: yasha.substack.com

Follow Yasha on Twitter at: @yashalevine