Technology Distilled

Introduction

• Universal Windows Podcast – Episode 96
• Special guest Brad Sams @BDSAMS
• Brad has nearly a decade of writing and publishing experience under his belt. From breaking news about Microsoft to pushing publications to new heights, he has significant experience as a journalist as well as growing web-based brands.

Word of the Week

• Enjoy a sip of your favourite beverage each time any of us says "Windows"

Interview of the Week

• Introduction to the book
  • Beneath a SURFACE is available on Amazon in Kindle format and will soon be available on paper!
  • A retrospective of all Microsoft Surface Devices from the Surface Table to the Surface Headphones and lots of insight into Windows 8 / 10
  • Meets Talk about the personalities that made it all possible from Steven Sinofsky @stevesi to Joe Belfiore @JoeBelfiore
  • The "Good Old Days" at Microsoft

  • Microsoft really hated the press
  • Early Surface Pro Mockup

      

  • Lapable - I thought Colin had invented the word Lapable (June 4 2015)

  • SkyDrive -> OneDrive - it has become something very useful!
  • Why has the touch cover / kickstand not been copied by Apple or Samsung?
  • Surface Mini
    • do people really care that much about a non-launched product?
    • Microsoft produced between 10,000 and 125,000 units
  • Start of the Windows Insider Program
    • 10 Original Insiders
  • Surface Book 1 was a Dumpster Fire
    • Hotbag
    • BSOD

Outro

• Call for your help with the podcast, please… Follow and Re-tweet @SurfaceSmiths Listen www.SurfaceSmiths.com Email [email protected]

Whisky of the Week

The Glenlivet Founder's Reserve

 

Introduction

• Universal Windows Podcast – Episode 95
• Happy Birthday David!!!

Word of the Week

• Enjoy a sip of your favourite beverage each time either of us says "Birthday".

Hack of the Week

• Windows Hello uses a Infrared camera for Windows Hello login and a separate camera for photos. You can block your visual camera and still us Windows Hello. Check out my short blog.

News of the Week 

• Microsoft briefly overtakes Apple to become the world's most valuable company
• Elon Musk says there is a 70 percent changes he'll move to Mars

Outro

• Call for your help with the podcast, please… Follow and Re-tweet @SurfaceSmiths Listen www.SurfaceSmiths.com Email [email protected]

Whisky of the Week

• Redbreast Single Pot Still

 

  Transcript Courtesy of WIT.AI Episode 095 - Birthday Dumpster Fire Windows Microsoft MVP Insider Surface Phone

2018, The Surface Smiths Podcast Universal Windows Podcast http://surfacesmiths.com

David and Colin Do Stuff to celebrate David's Birthday!

 

[0:00] Hello I'm Cortana welcome to the universal windows podcast the show about everything Windows such a surface Xbox phone and the windows Insider program, here are your host the surface Smith on Colin Smith and we are the surface pets welcome to 95, okay so not XP and not Millennium Edition like a lot of people. [0:29] I have barely barely barely use Windows 95 now for me it's cuz I skipped it because they weren't a life then. Yeah right and t351 those are all great operating systems 95 was just, I used to but at work I used at the 4 I'm going to stop at home so episode 95, birthday that's true that's true i birthday to me happy where the kb view birthday gift what did you get up that later i well so it's a liquid. I don't know it's cold out so welcome to episode 95 David's birthday episode, Peterson Wellness podcast hosted by us the surface mask so we can say that over and over a few times because we don't have a lot of content today while it's cuz everyone else was, not working on American Thanksgiving okay well there's a few little things we need to do David hey guys what about the word of the week, yeah alright so lots of birthday stuff going on so for those of you don't know where the week is a drinking game, every time you hear the word of the week you could take a drink at sometimes we toy with you by not saying the word of the week will actually just forget. [1:49] Either get really hydrated or really dehydrate depending what you drinking. Works for us so I don't have a drink in front of me so we're going to have to fix that I had a coffee but it's not alright so let's move on what else is there David what's coming up espresso machine in his office are recording studio so. That is quite the upgrade to the studio that's the hack of the week. Is it now though Act of the week is what so we don't have soundtrack of the week so I just kind of stumbled onto this. Microsoft uses to take picture of you when you log on with Windows hello is not the same camera used to take a picture of you for. [2:33] Kind of seems obvious but doesn't really this seem too much of a point to it but what the point is is you can actually just cover up the visual camera, leaving the login camera there and you can still enjoy Windows hello, Muller's Kelly the new episode the new series they didn't speak in the computers versus attack in the. Not into that one video that they've math so neighborhood here where they've got it intersection Mulder and Scully streets in Ottawa is there a yes wow we should do a live on the spot there so tape on the camera already full of article about it but I just happened to notice it by chance on my Surface go and then I just tried it on my Surface laptop and you can just put a small piece of tape there and Minnie Surface Book, book i'm sorry will a cut piece of skull six laptop office cuz that once are fucked up and then you have the pleasure of walking on use lean quickly and people can't be a stupid on you as easily alright so for those of you who don't know how hello works it uses infrared camera and the regular camera is not infrared it is a. [3:49] You'll spectra camera right because things that we want humans to see but it needs the infrared in order to do things like differentiate between you and a photograph of you or differentiate between, closer than trying to take a picture of the column over here and I just noticed that the mixing board would make a good picture all right and so, if use the infrared camera to actually look at the heat pattern from your face and eyes and things like that that you are, life in florida right and also you can tell the difference between. It definitely does a whole lot of stuff that you can't just do it the visual can't but I always assume that it used to be chill Cameron to. That man works at night you can you can actually just be in that it without without my flight, okay so what's next David I wanted to talk about some general. Christmas buying tips Christmas buying tips okay I'm not up for what for buying a laptop a lot of people buy a laptop at this time of year really people do. And just a lot of common mistakes of people with laptops I like the background music there wow wow I hope it doesn't mess up our voice. [5:02] Laptop buying tips. [5:10] Friday all that's herself people are buying a lot of this Hardware so I think the most important thing you can do is make sure you get no matter what you're doing with your life. Or a computer fan try to get at least 8 gigs if you're buying a Windows laptop by an Android phone that was my downside of the phone I bought, if your with your phone to a strip by the most memory you can well within reason for eight reasonable for a is reasonable for device that is just a consumption device for what work. You know when two or three years from now you will not feature prove it you want where is. It kicks you probably will I have a seven-year-old i7 with 8 gigs of RAM and it still works pretty well because it was. SSD what about so you've got here you don't have to give. This goes really that important the most important fast, having a huge amount of disc is not usually important if you fast and 128th I think is what most people need because of putting their data into the cloud. Minimum. [6:24] I have a terabyte I'm usually around 300 gigs is roughly where I am a half a terabyte give me some breathing room. Big I need to do temporarily and then have a heavy user than most. [6:39] You want this more just make sure you have a nice SD slots available to add additional memory should you need it temporarily. [6:52] Gonna airplane then yeah you could put in a slot there and sst. And I already called it SD card and you get out a bit of memory with some movies on it, okay instead of walking down your regular memory and then what I've done as well is Ibis, but Friday I bought a bunch of SanDisk Ultra extreme a super Alpha, who was the car that's okay for my go pro and other things i don't like we all slack check that there really aren't they there hundred twenty five dollars each of them for twenty nine bucks each oh really hundred twenty gig in the fastest a us and this makes in so that's good for that kinda stuff so that would be perfect to any in your phone if it's not made by Apple or a tablet if it's not made for apple or a laptop if it's. Not made by Apple I guess okay so disc so yes you definitely do not want if you want to get an SSD if possible as much as possible and, slower and things like that if so size i think that really is a personal preference it is you want to depend on whether to consumption device or whether it's a creation device I find it easier create on a larger device them to consume but my eyes are bad to sometimes like a bigger screen but the, I can adjust if I need to lease at least feel a type on the keyboard things like that like I have a 13 inch laptop and I'm much more productive on it than us a smaller laptop of course. [8:21] I mean what they're both good, thought but the balancing act too small not productive but if you're not going to be using for creation all that often you might be a little smaller lighter The Balancing Act the other thing I would suggest is too big, can be bad if it's a portable because it's hard to carry use a lot of power things like that. You're right the tablet like the be at the surface go or regular surface or you know the various Apple tablets that you really can carry around with you all day and not notices there, I told you the last thing I wanted was his price but I think it's two other things you've asked what if I messed and I think they'd let me put in the show not since we type I think they directly impact the price okay. Processor processor sure and the other one is. [9:17] Wouldn't it already have a touchless Dell laptop so that touch screens, name one major manufacturer Apple. It's there as a lasagne less of the the dial in hp's there two or three years ago they definitely have some okay somebody thoughts on top should have touch. [9:37] Again I think I should have thought so I think you should you don't necessarily have to use touch as a primary input method to occasionally use in front of you. [9:48] Get, all things being equal that not if if you have the option for touch with a lot of extra cost do it gas work they give you a lap top that doesn't have such on it and its well that's with this but here's the thing there now monitors that have touch true and so you can actually touch sensor connected to your laptop if you only touch at work and you don't really need touch when you're, when you're not at work then you got that option but touches something to consider a lot of people don't consider that in their laptop choices and then the other one processor and, a lot of options on processor between manufactures right it is Intel stock of all sorts of processors and it's very difficult to keep track of which processor is faster than which which one you should get they've got so there are some I Pfizer Fashions on my sevens there are where did the name of the quad core vs dual-core number of cores processor is probably the most difficult thing to make a make a set of choice are you having any you go to the store and of course it's not loaded with all the crap that you'll eventually end up on and it's gonna be fast but so years from now and then there's all the multi vendor this there's an empty there's, bucket of Cyrax anymore or any of those other parties but the but the is AMD and Intel of the big players then you got arm devices I was at Staples yesterday and I always walk by and check out the laptops and they had this. [11:14] Screaming deal on it was a seventeen it's laptop. [11:19] And how to like a i get a terabyte ss d was more like sixteen gigs of memory cuz because nobody wanted to pay, how much was it it was like seven $99 Canadian I don't know, but that but it was just like this huge thing it was just like like as long as you never tuck it anywhere I mean see if he's like she thought about the battery is really just that UPS in case your power goes out for 5, it would it would be a beautiful thing to have at your desk and you know why I could make sense nowadays is because what. [11:51] All your cloud storage in your settings be in the cloud and such, you really don't need to take your computer with you that much cuz you go home and if you have your other computer hooked up your MSA or your tablet or whatever, you're getting almost everything there anyway so maybe it doesn't make sense have a 17-inch Brosius shocked by the size of this thing around your house, bright and not take it places and not travel with it then 50 minutes left I want to start or even 79 right. But if you're going to use it a lot you might need to you might need to have a spoon that's somewhat stationary and one that's a little more portable and you're not have much more experience with surface devices but apple and other high-end manufacturers if your vinyl. Let's say $1,000 laptop or above its there's a good chance it's going to last four five six seven years is going to last quite a while so maybe you buy one now and you buy a tablet in a few years, I know I'll turn it back and forth when you refresh them so here's the other thing that we didn't cover What GPU yes, so my kids. [13:04] Fickle processing unit for graphics processing unit so if your mining that point of course or are you doing any kind of three d graphics finder to the fair watching movies are there is a telegraph you don't need don't need a GPU you know why you know that look at your little Fire TV stick it probably, never has nothing as far as the processor going to be able to keep up if you're going to be doing anything, math intensive or are you going to be doing it any three d graphics say kids are playing i don't know. [13:36] Pubg or. [13:40] Fortnite or anything like that it's definitely better than GPS but my kids love grabbing. The Surface Book there is an option for an external GPU and then look into that I don't know how good they are not depends on the connection you have to USBC obviously, right but you could have a FireWire keep you hooked up your gaming Monitor and then have that hooked up your laptop disconnected take laptop and it's catchy PCS behind yes. Right so there's that option so memory size. [14:12] Processor touch portability about goes hand-in-hand with size. Repeat the last one is price price I think if you if you spend over $1,000 these days you're going to get a vintage made in American, the american, call the fence cuz you pay extra for certain brands are the few others that you pay a premium for. [14:41] And then even with inline between HP and Dell so I know those very much there they have their cheaper lines right so you have to understand the lights on the Dell Inspiron which is really a home user, consumer model and the latitude which is the business model and here's my advice. Buy as much computer as you can afford don't because you'll be future-proofing, and look at things like processor or hard to upgrade after the fact memory and disk can be upgraded after the fact you screw up my memory probably not find out, some usually not well if you're if it depends if you punch a button if you like if your buying one with for you could probably a pretty to eight, you may have to throw your old memory away but you can still upgrade it down the road so if you need to save a little bit of money buy a faster processor with less memory now and get more memory later or smaller discbound it again another diss later those are all things you can upgrade can't really change your screen size you can't really add touch and is very thin you can't really change your processor, at or GPU so those biological in egpu so those are the things to think about if he's making trade awesome price so, don't buy the least computer you can get away with because you'll very very soon outgrow it because developers are developing applications on the next bill for the next generation of hardware and new applications will not run well on that. [16:05] Anything else to talk about let's move on to the to the what. To the new story of the week. Thanksgiving so that will happen but something very very exciting happen today to dry up today is what day date today is david birthday whenever there is a csf it's november twenty six david's birthday so it's a birthday few times now yes. [16:40] Microsoft overtook Apple to be the world's most valuable company for a few hours, you look at my Microsoft right then pulled back Ashley Microsoft stock is down from where it was about a month month ago it's wet it's raining at 106 Powell Street it over 110 month-and-a-half ago however, alexis stock is down over its it all time high what happened, apples pulled back Amazon is pulled back and so right now those three are going to be in Google and pull back a little bit Microsoft pull back glass. It's like the old joke you know how do you how do you how do you outrun a bear or something I don't know. [17:39] Billion dollars has roughly where they were in those details in there now Google went up because I bought a new phone, yes a little bit later so that was my new story make me happy I got to Microsoft stock good good and Elon Musk, I assume everyone who listen to a podcast know who she is. And since you went to school very close to here then now we have to keep track of every once in awhile percent chance. It's he'll move to Mars me as his favorite type of chocolate bar he will move to the to the. To the planet Mars cuz nobody knows I'm tractor who wouldn't would would what you go tomorrow if that's. Is it a one-way trip it's a two-way trip even as a one-way trip it's quite a commitment. I need to know more about it but how how long we talked about 5 years return trip with us something right it would have to be several years, so let's say 5 years things like that that's what people used to do with boiled we are we are. So just interesting. [18:58] Couple hundred thousand dollars in what he says. Okay, I thought that was going to be going to into the right into the red Center of us realize what they call it the deserts call the red Center wear the lularoe which weeds call Ayers Rock and, will you still did call it people know that when I say I say lularoe they say cousin tight guess I'm going to. [19:37] Alright is that it for news that is all. [19:41] Music. [19:50] Alright we don't defend boxing music on boxing music you want to leave like Rocky music or something. So we're leaving today I've got you are going to open up hold up hold up on you get the on the camera I bought a dumpster fire so yes this is the phone give me a second here to start the camera. [20:11] Okay here we are not life with Collins new pixel 3XL and I'm not sure, he bought it just cuz Paul Trot called it a dumpster fire well that was a great it's cold here dumpster fire is nice and warm outside in the alley behind the building when you're outside cold who wouldn't want a dumpster fire I ate I don't know or was it is that American bad thing in Canada it's a good thing yeah s*** in the stick that's bad everywhere we can say that. We we can have a quitter well but rather how to stick that on my hand through the route to open up to a salon at the kit let's pull out the we can share this with illegal weapon the theme pics that the team pixel will do that so. First off it's got myself I don't even need the knife it's got a little tab to pull but let me ask if I don't have nail so there we go it's like on when you're opening up a video game or those DVDs years ago a little little piece there to pull up a little tab there to pull up. I just don't have nails to get under it so. There we go you guys at work that are trying to buy my old iPhone from me. Take a look at that it's all nicely. [21:29] Packaged least that's what we say. Can unwrap it so let's see how about sideways what do you mean, I can't compare to your phone cuz you're recording with it good point, size-wise it's almost the same size as a little narrower but it's got a bigger screen up at you yeah I was going to say that and it's got, the world biggest notch or does it turn it on. [22:09] That's really what size of a notch on it oh my God what the fork and. [22:18] You said you created another account just for this so couple of things for those of you that are considered drunk. Alright english united states start connect to mobile network what so, start Sim free setup instead okay so why did you choose this phone so I was looking at Apple and I got a 64 gig Apple iPhone 6s plus right, I wanted a little bit more memory right okay and if I wanted to get one of the new iPhones I got to jump up the intro. Point is 64 gig at the bottom and then want that next up is 256 gigs that really up the price when I put everything all in eyes looking over two grand. [23:16] Saying sorry, how you didn't see that I didn't get the Google car so but it still it was it was pretty close to Grand now the issue of the other issue is I want the best camera possible for my truck and hold on how much would this be, and keep locking up i got the black friday deal on it i got it for will be plus the bill, the plot the bill keep talking okay fuck you talking about mia you said you to be careful of did you get a case for yet i didn't home. It's going to start. [23:57] And so like to know Skip that here's our Wi-Fi networks. It's test but forgot the password give my google store i like the feel of it so i gotta print reader incense in the back. [24:16] So it was. [24:21] Yeah I had a discount on it $250 cuz I didn't find somebody that wanted to go with the flow you didn't give the two for two same thing right almost think they look up in 10 dollars difference so, I'll take a look at that so I ended up getting it for my total with tax $1,140.17. So I got it for under a thousand bucks Canadian so that's about 700 you bought it because you think the camera is amazing, best camera out there my second choice was the OnePlus 60 but it's not waterproof that's one of the things on it and then the cameras not as good so this was waterproof, and. [25:06] Has the best camera foul is four gigs of ram which i think is a bit of a problem but i think of puppy live with it and how much i starch that two hundred twenty eight gig that's the top end this that but i'm limited google. Dry storage plus you can add your own nest no he can't there's no MicroSD no not on the waterproof ones. But really there is on my camera considering switching phones, you install Google Drive on your phone and that's my case 900s and then you backup your phone to Google Drive is map for it and I hope your phone your contacts your photos your calendar right, and you enable this new phone. You I would have to turn off turn off iMessage by the way because it'll happen is when people try to contact you you like to My Cry message wife we are Google phone, your Android phone Bella work do I won't work too well say turn all that off before you migrate over from somebody backup your phone. Put your sim into the new phone and code so google drive again i think i should probably already installed on it too quickly and just restore from backup, awesome and you're good to go so let's see what you think about this after your trip before my trip I've got 15 days since I left it so before each other thing now anybody wants lightning cables I can have a whole lot of those. [26:29] So it comes with that comes with a couple of things here it comes with earbuds. What's will go to cinema connector or do you have to use the it comes with your butts that worked out of the us pc usb c yeah and also comes with this little, so that's the year but so usb c but this load after let's new headphones lowry having love, or microphones or whatever yeah yeah that would be like okay and course a usb cable so but that's a usb c to usb c cable, the connector that okay see his or her falls in a better than that it's the other connector here to for ge to charge so here's a pro tip cold on this doesn't help. How does that help me charge it I want here's a pro tip don't get onto a long flight, without the right cables yes so I will be buying some cables today on Cyber Monday I'm going to wrap up this video so all right and then we'll wrap up the audio podcast in just a moment right cuz we've got the the after-party to get to yes. Well that was interesting in it i don't we should a done. [27:40] I wouldn't have heard it on the camera anyway that's that's true yeah. So there we are we done are we going to do a whiskey tasting I guess we have a couple and we should at least say goodbye. [28:02] Music. [28:09] Christmas podcast follow the show on Twitter that Smith email the show at podcast.com check out the show notes and leave a comment on www. [28:24] Help others find out about the show by leaving a review on iTunes. [28:27] Music. [28:37] So this is the after party his birthday party gilroy. A couple things about the phone my text messages to do that and we were talking about Pimm's. Not the stuff from England that you mix with liquor personal information manager so most modern phones Android and. I give you a bottle of redbreast single pot still Irish whiskey aged 12 years. He knows masters engineering metallurgy and things like that we've talked about building still next summer. [29:28] So it's really i've two questions is it legal. What's the second question when the next summer where can i hook is a funeral nowadays posse legal there's no thrill. Hurry up so this red dress is supposed to be pretty good now it's difficult if you have multiple information sources multiple contacts and things like that so now the phones. Close to my heart. [30:01] Are you go look at that nice. Alright okay the phone phone. [30:22] Okay. [30:24] So the red dress the beautiful balance single pot still irish whiskey with a warm generous texture rich sweet flavor spicy kick. [30:33] Love you many connoisseurs the Fireside Irish whiskey available and that's why I bought it for you. [30:41] It also comes in a cast but I don't know how I didn't know how to dilute it so perfect fall weather whiskey. Really very fruity hiking with dave this tastes like a dumpster fire spells path. I'm surprised your phone hasn't hasn't burst into flames actually spilled it on the iPhone not on the last generation that was not waterproof. [31:10] Alright thanks. I broke the camera wants by pouring by 4 and the Keith's Brewery in the Halifax I spilled a beer on it. But not too much beer I save most nahmir. So I like this hotel nice warm start in a spicy pepper finish the color not too sweet. Yeah because when you going to call on your caller ID where's it going to look at 20-20 different contact managers on the phone where they going to look at it in the file that this floor of a text comes in I wasn't too big. [31:56] Apps on your phone that have to use the OS his pimp your text messaging, and your phone calls that's on the phone app and the and the SMS app so I have an app on my phone that when I get a call it pops up with. Basic information from phone book including whether they're telemarketer and I've configured it when it's the telemarketers to go straight to voicemail. But that's okay okay last five years accessing the data accessing your penalty right who or or or training, inside car mode it's it's running as well as the pimp and its release reading other information the Apache is Google only has this is the Google Voice Assistant where it'll actually act as a person or set so it's somebody's not in your contact list it'll answer the phone and ask them questions and they still have the answer it'll either that's good let them come or not, just the us but still looking forward to that yeah. I will wrap them like really rude questions and things like that if you can tell Margaret so can you go for the telemarketers what the last time you had a bowel movement. I think like that yeah yeah. [33:19] Off up early but its years that it's it's it's also my google phones birthday will they korea. [33:28] Alright so spill. Sure okay guys were smart enough to kill ourselves haven't cut myself yet doesn't mean I won't do it again okay so you have Heat playing a boiler when you have a spiral cop and a copper wire come out the top dude. Two it will evaporated anaconda dinner so it's it's a boiler in of operator to consider right that's it okay if. If ancient Irish could do it with the internet. You got all access the right people got like Breaking Bad here we won't sell it. [34:24] For those that want to live on the edge since now that marijuana is legal in Canada what do you do for Thrills cuz nobody. You're not allowed to smoke anymore basically so, yeah that's awesome that's awesome I talked about this before so hopefully I'll have Brad Sam's on next week to Jack about his book and with any luck we'll be able to get a copy of the book ahead of. Say good things about it cuz it's it's about surface that needs the surface how could it possibly not. Be cut I will have to say that I think it's a dumpster fire and when he gets upset because it candidate that's a good term yes. Whiskey so. Dumpster fire I love that that's great sara americans a few minutes we let go from, your smart people are coming in with the this is real or if she really wants to move the code to get away from drugs are a smart. [35:53] What let's wrap aptos, we should what would be the proper number of people to finish a bottle every podcast 2, well we wanna fish quick know about that i guess what everyone have like one or two glasses so as of this is a must and we get a twenty after forty ounces so which one is this an twenty this is the twenty. Social 20oz and people. That's how many ounces in a milliliter. Okay so 7 50/30 1525. Okay this is twenty five single shots and they're so. [36:50] Talking to drunk five shots by people for people that's okay. Not really the driving range but 5 and less than 10 fighting around. Can i deduct a porpoise but it's okay milam the role either so six alright. Cuz I thought you like this I wanted to get some little different high quality, hard to find good whiskey Street this is not a cheap whiskey by the way but it's less expensive than some of the Whiskey's I typically like to the roof price wise. Yeah yeah you need to have a everyday whiskey might be the. [37:41] This is about to talk to Everyday whiskeys that idea which are 3-1 I still drink the northern Harvest. I like what I see a lot of times I have any whiskeys are pretty but then I've got Jim Beam in the summer. Address for that ice Jim Beam for cheap not bad and I like Wiser's Deluxe. [38:10] Else like really like i don't know if it has the app and that's where bottle there yet and i like a lot forty those are all forty always he's unit under forty dollars are all very good in canada and can we tax the. Over our lives so those might that do i just mowed the lawn whiskey kinda thing in yeah because i cant live without with dividing your of resentment fingers and toes. But yeah then the higher and stuff at the space I'd pretty much for. A little bit nicer. But not nicer different very good Canadian whiskeys are evolved the what was whiskey I like the taste of the Breton one we had the other day. Alright Oh Canada Dry I could have done well with a maybe a Sherry Cask or something that would be nicer, that's really good we could do to make your first batch then you can start working at next relaxer yeah kind of barrel of oil barrel, well so cheap and cannot seven bucks a barrel so i want to buy the one by the wall by the seven bucks a barrel, for the barrel gas is so cheap barrels are expensive. [39:37] Have I missed something here but no no I got it I got to go buy a barrel of oil and I get disappointment complain when I don't got two barrels so the ombudsman the French and then completed the franchise ombudsman, I want are you alright I think that's it we pretty much done we are. [40:00] By keep your stick on the ice in your scotch on the rocks happy birthday Dave happy birthday day.

Introduction

• Universal Windows Podcast – Episode 94
• You can enjoy us on Spotify and iHeartRadio now – great for streaming!
• Special Guest Peter Henry

Word of the Week

• Enjoy a sip of your favourite beverage each time either of us says "Elf".

News of the Week 

• Microsoft starts selling Two Surface Go variants
  • $499 - 4 GB and 128 SSD
  • $679 - LTE
• Windows 10 1809 Still Broken
  • iCloud
  • Mapped Drives
  • AMD
  • Trend
• Windows on Arm Update
• New ARM Devices from Lenovo and Samsung are shipping with 1803
• Windows 10: Now it's tap or look to sign in to Outlook, Office 365, OneDrive, Skype
• Killer AI robots must be outlawed, says UN chief
• Japan's new cybersecurity minister admits he's never used a computer

• Brad Sams is releasing a new book – we are hoping to have Brad on as a guest

Product Reviews With Peter

• https://www.kingston.com/en/wireless/wireless_readers/mlwg3
• Screen protectors for your phone - Tempered Glass
• Wired Mice - Microsoft Classic IntelliMouse
• Fossil Gen 3 Sport Smartwatch
• Asus Transformer Mini
  • Sound goes away after keyboard closing
• Netgear Nighthawk X6
• Montreal Canadian USB Speaker
• Logitech 490
• Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000

Outro

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Whisky of the Week

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  Episode 094 - The Peter Principle - Transcript courtesy of WIT.AI Windows Microsoft MVP Insider Surface Phone

  2018, The Surface Smiths Podcast Universal Windows Podcast http://surfacesmiths.com

  News and Special Guest Peter Henry with some Christmas gift ideas and reviews

    Transcript [0:00] Hello I'm Cortana welcome to the universal windows podcast the show about everything window. Such a surface Xbox phone and the windows Insider program. Here are your host the surface schmidt. My name is David Smith and I'm calling Smith and today we have a special guest assets Peter Henry to want to start that again David why cuz you lift no, now we don't break for that deal episode 94 and welcome Peter. Thank you very much theater eight system anonymous think sure unless he wants to tell us his last name. Google with H4 now that's fine alright Peter Henry exactly exactly alright so ups we got a delayed show for you it's after this the wednesday before american thanksgiving so lots of things going on sale black friday cyber monday coming in with a lot of products to talk about. Before we do that we've got some housekeeping hey guys what about the word of the week. [1:10] Blue that are guest choose the where the week and or do i use the word sure why not let's pick considering we've got a lot of snow outside and it's a little bit before christmas let's pick al's call Zoe use that word a lot normally are podcast so that should work out well I'm sure we'll be able to work that in it Peter you're a long time listener friend of the show we've talked about you before you've been on the show before you. [1:37] You stay in touch so your Alpha superfan, well thank you very much yeah i try and listen you guys and i get some some inside information about where microsoft is going where they from the little bit of where they come from and some deep insights of some cool information that I wouldn't get out on out on the the internet on blogs or an in trade rags and stuff like that. It did I see you you do not have a Windows phone, so i figure the loss of a three of us to give up on yeah that was a sore point i was doing some windows phone development there for a little while and i love the phone and lives in a paid for one of your apps, yes thank you very much i camera what was that was the but yeah remember when Windows Phone Directory made by Nokia in Finland. Set the receipt with the finnish national costume look like no now you should google that are being that. Cuz it really looks like what else would wear it really does oh I see I see. [3:02] Lottery for the week whenever we say the week you can take a drink of your favorite beverage. If you're driving and if the officer pulls you over you can tell if you heard the word the weekend you had to. I'll call the police officer and elf they don't like that very much okay that's not that's true and alright so we're gonna do, go on at the show and I will come back to some of the stuff that you wanted to talk about specifically I feel free to jump in anytime if we're talking gives a hand signal whenever jump in lots to talk about we're going to great start with our typical. [3:41] Cysts you story of the week on the history of the and we called it just so we don't have a super long episode think we're going to start with David doing to start with v. Surface news will Microsoft to new versions of the surface go one is the LTE version and. Priest self-explanatory it comes with a healthy and also come with those in a sixty is it a four gig at eight gig memory is it is it is a smaller one which is odd yeah so it's not that is a yet by getting out to eat have to get something else up if you were looking for the full spec apparently and then they brought up one that they originally were selling just at Costco but now it's kind of a hybrid between the low end in the high-end so it has, 4 gigs of memory at but has a faster processor I think in the faster disk space and 128. So anyhow I kind of. [4:46] That what they should if it is one of the dis a battery and but anyhow well i thought the battery so much has the combination of battery, and until process about the battery it's so much better than what it was made by elves they would probably work better. Well the hand thing you get used to but the battery only lasts him I'd say 2 hours most so really who hours. Has us pc and has microsoft on the cake but so that, that later on what I'm going to buy and maybe that's going to convince me not as far as you're concerned. I should buy it it's definitely you know what I'd rather by anyways before we live on. [5:38] Over was full of issues for microsoft release seeing. Nine or the fall release of windows ten, kind of issues they pulled it back and release of the play back well guess what they've re released again it's available in the wild but it still pro can. So again I think for Microsoft that's a, six at so eighty nine and icloud do not play nice map drives are broken in md processors have issues trend micro anti malware has issues still all kinds of issues and eighteen o nine at even though Microsoft that there's going to be some quality. Updates for you think about that Peter when I'm doing my normal day-to-day stuff at work or if I'm playing around at home, I just really using visual studio and Chrome, and it's for the most part it seems to be okay but I guess the situations that you've brought up with regards to specific Cloud scenarios or specific CPUs, thank, at work and at home and it seems to be working pretty fine for me I thought that's what the flighting was doing and that's what the controlled-release Cycles were doing based on the Insiders. [7:02] Field testing I'm so maybe the inside is not doing their job so they should be fired unrelated news Dona sarkar is. [7:11] It is a focus at Focus APA Cosmopolitan magazine article okay there we go. A little bit of Safeway we talked about this earlier windows on arm update lots of news in the windows on arm plus space first off, chris off the is supporting native apps for your visual studio user there's now an ability to compiled directly for windows ten on arm. Don't have to use the emulation, how is just for store apps this is for sixteen gb thirty two bit or sixty four bit apps well that's really good question we should take a look at that but, I read the article I couldn't figure it out so I figured that the armpits are 64-bit they are it's just the emulation is 32 bit. [8:01] I ever win thirty two apps so does that mean that the apps are gonna run slower on a sixty four bit. Machine which apps any of the 32-bit apps. Yeah so yes they will definitely stop to say what happens when you virtualize a nap and I'm elated that probably doesn't run quick yeah but how do you how do you bench Market because you're running on Hardware was never designed to run on, you know what I was wondering about the surface cup its performance is fine. And this is not the most powerful computer in the world that's right right so I'm just saying that. We don't really need a whole lot of power I mean yeah so some app run slower if you can rent underarm but you know you're ready. So if you need that much power the chances are you're gonna be getting visual by some healthy right last house list list quickly you're right now we're talking about were talking about was and i'm talking about the snap dragon he thirty five make forty fives. Sony 850 sorry 835 850s the 1000 coming at least or chips that run a 2.9 gigahertz other fairly quick or multi-core. [9:12] But how do you bench a Teddy to a fair Benchmark between an app running on arm versus an app running on arm emulated I don't think versus until proc I don't think it's a fair comparison it's just it's a convenient it's not why you should be running that app if you need to live in that up all the time it's at a transitional phase as your getting rid of a legacy app so what's going on in windows are native apps in Chrome so Google and Microsoft are working on a native Chrome browser for windows on arm. [9:44] Two new devices one from Lenovo one from Samsung. And December 2nd for the Samsung and not sure when the Lenovo shipping but these are running the latest 8:50. [9:57] Which is got a lot more power a lot more speed the original Windows alarm devices. They were slow even then like playing with him for 5 minutes every around anymore. [10:13] The white with you of this lottery designer and in what i understood but the way in the first round of the of the surfaces oh you mean like the original surface without with the arm checked with the actor that didn't really work out there and then mop and then he bought Nokia which runs on arm so yeah an hour to bring it back the first one i love mine i had when i saw her and and and it was it was absolutely one of my apps the bad the battery life on them was incredibly the apps it was the store apps, I couldn't install stuff okay that's a confused I was actually in a Microsoft store right doing doing a demo was confused and people come in, our tv i can't install this i cancel like nine so i may say well that you but windows are teak this app oneself the customers that didn't understand i think i'm windows of a lease they weren't doing a good enough job of marketing that of getting people to understand all, explain that my kids got it first got it and this is just one of those things okay, I'm buying an iPad equivalent I've got the increase battery life I've got the instant on these are wonderful thing average consumer thinks by the Windows device. They don't understand the different versions of thought they were getting a laptop that they could just decide on everything they want. [11:36] Yeah and so things that you should be able to run. You couldn't and they were just confused but let's move on, the new devices from 101 Samsung so maybe I should look at one of those but here's the problem member we said 1809 is broken so, villanova on samsung devices to both shipping with windows ten eighteen or three. The to mail ship with the surface scope to shift with eighteen of three understood welsh but the surface will ship in the summer. Is a shipping in happen of embers of this problem and you know three was never certified to stop dragging eight fifty. Microsoft never tested it but they never certified it so it was certified as a Snapdragon 835. [12:19] So they're running an OS I was never tested on the hardware. So that's a bit of a pickle for them isn't it it is so there when you open this up under Christmas tree on Christmas morning the first thing it's going to want to do is doing update on you. There's there's an interesting user experience that's going to happen no matter what what you buy even even Apple and Android never updates but I guess that's a no. They certified in for that one device on 1803. [12:54] And so anyways so it's still the thought this. All windows ten is broken thing is is really biting. [13:03] Maybe they need elves doing software testing. Well they might have smaller issues alright so what was that movie where. [13:17] Bob Newhart was an elf. [13:20] It's not elf. Is there dams. Okay alright. [13:39] On to Microsoft doing more to get away from passwords. [13:44] Two ft multi factor authentication windows hollow bio matrix facial recognition of yours and interesting thing initially I'm a little hesitant to word that I kind of like having my password okay fine I like having your password too and I'm giving it out cuz it is part of my last name so I know relatively newish laptop, there's a yellow sticker on the front and on the back hot for cover the camera thing i do the same thing my cover i like I look like Dave I cover my camera, so you're so you're hello hello really work out so well, hope it does actually so what it does so you got a picture of the tape. [14:38] Did they responsible camera somebody pull up the regular camera put in reverse. [14:44] Did they finally figure out how to the problem with having putting sticking a really good quality picture in front of the camera. [14:54] Nice yellow yet and yet it logs me in even twins cancel hello because special IR camera which is this one here. [15:07] Good making sb but it's sometimes happens plus the iron cameras the second hole on the right. [15:12] So it's the whole on the right that the visual camera is the one in the middle, so the only thing you're stopping is the visual camera not the e-signature I figured this out by mistake, see you're saying the twins don't have a different heat signature on their face says of the blood vessel pattern and things like that. Yeah go back to that demo Montreal remember. [15:35] That is perfectly anybody but so any yeah so i'm gonna the i'm done some work around that so yeah so but let's go back to the answer adding no password required for outlook office three sixty-five when driving skype to more and more. Services you can use without entering a password how does that work well. I understand but if you're using Office 365 using live or Hotmail sure it's over the internet and you don't have a password right how do you log it how do you. Air quotes login with that with your username so first off you're going to end, you need to have windows ten running on a device with two pm. TPM trusted platform module so it's a quote-unquote air quotes here unhackable. [16:31] Piece of Hardware which stores keys on the device. TPM 2.0 which most business class devices have and use. Is need to be in place i believe the key need you if you if i've not pas about that but anyways what does it is. Stores the credential hashes in there okay then it uses that to pass along. Microsoft's confident that no glue it is going to be. Reproducible afterwards just the hash right if you can reverse it from the hash the whole point the hatches a tard reverse it on and you would do that anyway fit after i guess. Doesn't were awesome but the same would be true if you done that that the password was still pass the same. It started to Hash it and then some hash right so or get them get a no hot again is that really a token able to get some piano hot verification there so. It's not the kind of thing that you can leave lying around like on a sticky note. [17:48] Like your face is on the sticky note mac that might be there for a while and your heat signature is not one of mine. I thought I had password take to the bar for some of your government clients how how receptive are they. So I've done a lot of work for it they're there right now they're still focused on getting Windows 10 lock the door, the parody solution of a lost opportunity they're not make Windows 10 look like Windows 7 just waking up Windows 7 they're not really looking at and what they do. Yeah I try but okay so, just wanted to have that out there passwords I don't use passwords that often anymore and I think they're going to be less and less services at um there's so many password. [18:43] Dealing attempts happening it's a great way to Yo password databases and things like that if you can minimize that Force multi-factor authentication to make it easy, i think people will be better off from one term okay but i think it's time to move away from microsoft news that's the high right david you to take this one of july the do that when i any to can i want that's what alright so. The UN Chief says the killer AI robots must be outlawed what do you think about that. [19:13] I don't think you should kill did I don't think you should tell her I am broke I think they should be encouraged the problem personally I wouldn't care if I was killed by a robot or a person if I'm killed. There's that sure what you'd rather be killed by a person that a robot. [19:33] I'm just I guess I'm just more questioning the fact that we have to get a law for this I know so who is the killer AI robots. [19:44] Of months and the government's fault lost like this now so. [19:51] Well it depends on weather of course of course this is the United Nations so, Canada General Secretary Antonio guterres has warned about the weaponization of AI too serious danger but I think the weaponization of anything is a danger right exactly. Let me have a vote today no that was for their what they should put the postal workers back to vote. Talk about that after the postal strike in Canada so I think we probably have less. A lot of a lot of troops or less soldiers were hurt from Friendly Fire somebody missed somebody shot at the wrong hell or launched launched an airstrike the wrong place I think more surgery Soldier wouldn't be there. [20:59] And will that stop driving card is not a police officer after or yeah, it's just like self-driving cars people are afraid to self-driving cars but of a millions and millions of miles driven they have far less toxic to human drivers and how many how many people have been shot how many people how many people have been shot, not self-driving car says 0 right into the back of fire trucks on the highway the problem with the self-driving cars is their algorithms are chosen specifically to ignore certain piece of information course one of the thing after the after the the accident that killed one of the drivers of going through a fire truck stopped on the highway was they said well we have to put that in there because otherwise the car wouldn't make it down the street because all the street lights would make it stall I can make it better while they can make it better the problem is I think you've got. [21:53] You got all these people that have to die in order for it to learn we can't get the pilot in a plane to work, it's called Evolution how do you read how do you mean. It's almost your taxes they are still accident, what I talk about you when you talk about the car later the old white guy, can about which one of us that you cuz you played without light yeah okay old white guy claiming he making comments about technology that he knows very little about. I don't know who this is but I'm just giving a summary of the story all right okay. Should I consult someone else after this one's for you David okay so I like to complain about that. [22:52] I suppose many people do the Japan's new cybersecurity administer admits he's never used a computer. You know what that's awesome because he understands the dangers and he wants to stay safe from hackers and all sorts of other cyber threat so I think he's taking every possible precaution so in other words he's okay, yeah but everyone else on his stock has two phones two laptops three tablets their kids their wives all their Partners everybody in their constituency. Everybody's tweeting and slacking and putting all this information except him but I think he's a model I think he's leading by example is that. [23:41] Anybody could go through life and not use a computer at the well he says before he says he has people for that he just ordered other people use computers for him. Why would I want to do that I have people for that okay to remember back I think was a 2009 or so then you had a my six what been cord being see further, my husband just got a new job of the head of a life can be very loved those babies cody with the bs if and here's their family vacation pictures and here's where we're going to live been ants that like what's the weakest link it security human that's why we need killer ai to stop the weakest link pergo all we will stop the week is like for sure. I hate David you want to talk we just want to talk one thing is. Pratt Sam's is releasing a new book called beneath the surface and coming out in. A couple days a week from now so we'll try to get Brad on the podcast Brad shamelessly promote his dad is the robin to Paparazzi Batman. [24:49] Sure if you want to go that way I don't know why he work football throughout quite a bit this podcast, being etc and which you didn't have am on a show called the surface miss either that it will read the book care not read the book and overview ourselves I think it's much we're going to have a bias and informed review it might as well be from the author as opposed to Vermont. Yes all right cuz microsoft now got their own e book reader and her yoni bookstore are i think of that see it. [25:19] Music. [25:27] Alright so I'm only hoping waiting for this is why Peter is here today Peter brought some toys to show us and talk about. [25:35] Start with peter think very much so. Give some people some ideas for Christmas over the holidays coming up if they're for you or if they're for some of the people some things to think about so. Just some of the products I brought in one of them is a mobilelite wireless router and the reason why I got one of these from Kingston was it was go. Able to save me all kinds of pain so that my kids could actually stream and watch some movies in the van unfortunately this thing belongs in the wood chipper literally in the wood chipper it's about that useful. The main reason for it is the. [26:25] Light mobilelite Wireless G3 no idea why I bought that was I could stick in. A memory card put some movies on it sticking in here and the kids will be able to stream the movies in the van on a ten hour trip in the van the problem is. [26:43] There were two apps to download neither one word one of them one of them you used if you wanted to stream the movie one of them you wanted to use it to download the movie to download the movie in the van over the fast wireless network was going to take probably about 15 to 20 minutes, so you might as well just look out the window, so that one that one is just not very useful I spent more time yelling at the kids in the back of try this try that you know then I just stopped don't use it at all why didn't you return it. Cuz I had our it again way too long so I bought it okay okay i'll just in in a month or two because it was on sale i figured fantastic it's on sale they were really little too expensive for me and i five all we took was on sale but it was a month and half two months before christmas and then when i finally got the use it it was past date that I could return it so that was to get pitched next one are screen protectors for your phone I'm a big iPhone screen protectors a lot of people think while I got Carrillo 3 Grill at 4 on my phone it's not a big deal I thought I should they shouldn't scratch problem is. Those that did the types of screen protector the gorilla glass that's on them they're not really made for puncture. [27:55] Pressure points so if you happen to drop it just at the wrong spot on the ground crush on the corner there to help if it falls on the hegemon right haveman but it'll stop the scratch it'll it'll listen to scratch it the thought process that I'm thinking is it's much cheaper to replace a $20. [28:16] Screen protector then it is a $200 screen so on my last phone I, 5x the whole kit on the outside came I took my phone apart surprise surprise I took it apart and it actually comes as a whole assembly unit you can't just replace the glass itself the whole thing is is is a unit so the whole side case there the back this one's a pixel so when I, so I pick someone I got it on for half price I put my other one broke I went into a bootloop and I thought okay well I'm not too pixel 3 is coming out I don't want to buy $1,000 pixel 2 so what am I going to do I ended up finding a pixel, wine insure auto for half price I'm trying to work Stellar it's absolutely wonderful so now I have a bit of time before I feel that I want to buy the pixel. [29:06] You like these I like the screen protector because if the screen scratches its The Protector, the whole idea is on the protector there's about three different kinds of protectors of the first guys the floppy one that's that's the one that the float is a bus that too low piece of plastic strainer of that's right and all the protein you have double that and you have that was the problem with that one is just the finger status as a go then the next level is you've got a thick plastic so that still Lisitsa still better your your finger slides across and that is really good for the scratches the next level up is about a 20 or $30 price point and that's where you get into this Osceola thought that it starts this the finger smudges right. Set that doesn't start really stop means at. [29:57] Oil okay and it it it works so Stellar I can see my finger sliding across. [30:05] When I put them on the S8 which has occurred screen yeah they break. So if I can put a new one on my phone every month in the break so I've got I don't have one of the ones with the curved screen on this one with the way that they solved it on this pixel phone is it doesn't actually extend the Paso record only lasted a month and I'm spending $10 a month on screen protectors you might want to get one of the older ones now the benefit of the older ones they're cheaper there but five six bucks now mac and about ten bucks your getting the plastic one, the plastic one if people complain about the the the light going through opps alot of like when i have a similar one here's the it's the glass tempered glass ones, where's the one that you recommend I like the tempered glass so what happened on mine i happen to slam it on the table one day at least have for something in a slab in that i pick up the phone going ho few it didn't actually crack then i turned it on and in the light i could see this this spider if i am gonna hyper the real screen it's only 3 months old okay I got to live with it long story short a year later I go to change the actual screen for screen protector that it shattered not there real screen. [31:22] So this was wonderful I could have changed it a lot earlier I know a couple of people that swear that they won't ever buy, screen protectors my problem is if you have your phone for two three years it's gonna get use not going iphones for your ultimate. [31:41] Some pretty pics of shaved and someone says it's a decent. Medical okay there's a scratch there's a scratch there's a there's a okay not a problem it's minor. But if you ever. You rather replace a twenty dollar screen protector than an actual two hundred on the screen so that's the decision point when it comes down to it but if you've got a thousand dollar phone plan but are you willing on your furniture. [32:07] Maybe that you might have a reason to put that fabric on the furniture but that's that that's for kleiner flick okay if so difficult to see a whole lot so, your verdict. This is a definite by your verdict know because it breaks its it's all a conspiracy very cool you're looking to get a mouse for a friend of yours one of the things that you want to actually consider is corrugated or cordless which i would think of not even i would just automatically assume cord Leslie's gliss I'm thinking the exact opposite. Just because everyone's wireless devices are around me there's all kinds of wireless devices especially when you're in at office please. [32:59] I've recently changed change companies I've now in it in a day, to 300 people there is how many countless mice wireless keyboard some phones tablets laptops speakers there's all kinds of wireless devices all over the place i had one of these new, Microsoft cordless mice the this one is the Microsoft sculpt ergonomic Mouse it's wonderful I love this melts except. Every afternoon feel not between the hours of about 1:30 to 3:30 this thing would stutter I'd be going across the screen expecting a fluid motion and he would stutter it would skip on me and I'm like what is going on this drive me nuts the only thing I can think of that makes sense is its interference throughout the building are these other wireless devices going on be nice to know one way or the other however i ended up, what. [34:11] No the cheaper they like 40 bucks or something about 50 bucks on it from the Microsoft store The only hiccup is between this one and the one that was from about 18 years ago is the court is a little bit stiffer. So no. Are you willing to get them at all to either for one rep announced, Soviet the thing. [34:43] The thing is is where the problem is that when it's on your desk if you've got this mouse cord that stiff what ends up happening is is it gets caught inevitably on the monitor or the monitor stand so I didn't. It is up slowing down when you're scrolling across when you got your right across it's an abstraction for drake it's an extra drag it's an obstruction so that was the one thing that what they make him wireless how to attach and agree to our actually cake here's the thing if you like the intellimouse here's the one thing that I found that I lost on the sculpt Mouse you can actually go sideways on the roller ball it will actually go sideway so if you're on up if you're on the web page and you want to be able to go left and right. You've actually got either use the keyboard or you've got to use you guys use the scroll bars at the bottom of your browser on. Not sure it's got a universal adapter so on the intellimouse you lose that. [35:44] You don't have that so for me i like to tell a mouse i also like the skull mouse there both buys. I would I would strongly suggest these guys. [35:59] The Dove soap early 1990s late 1980s you paper mache one and I was one for Halloween one year. What the PS2 connector and everything, weeks to make it and people i were it be possible a that makes of lotus it yo whats the on off what would you flush the rougher. So the next one that I have is an Asus Transformer mini so I got these for for my kids, and the whole idea was I needed something that was relatively inexpensive that wasn't going to break the bank we didn't want to buy, one expensive to have four kids the idea was I couldn't buy two of them I could buy two surfaces, I'll buy a surface I looked at the prices they were a little too expensive for what I was looking to get out of them so then I thought I hate this anybody have a used one someone did David and I thought okay this is but now I have a problem, my kids well, we try and teach them to share well and for the most part they do but kids being kids they all want to get on the computer the same time so. I had to ask santa what's the best thing to do so he went to his house. [37:29] I need basically said comes out at Christmas time see if there's any sales the day before Christmas last year Christmas I'm looking at these and they were on sale wonderful, what's keyboard with the keyboards like a cheaper than Mercedes eyeless exactly and The Stylist so my partner loves The Stylist I would rather use the finger cuz I always lose the stats I would rather. [37:58] The missing of that serie so the problem is on the east there at the really nice devices here's the major malfunction that i have but I didn't learn about this until afterwards when you close the lid, you've been playing a game you get the sound through the speakers pretty good speakers on the keyboard is great you puke you have separate the kids close the computer everybody goes the chris that that the kitchen table after supper they'll get back on the computer again for some reason I haven't figured out how or why the sound goes away. Will not come back the only way to get the sound back is to start stop and rebooted here comes in the next problem have you tried device manager to stop the sound card with if it's just the driver i haven't got in it and and at the low-level in the device manager start and stop it now cuz I thought that's a little hard to tell an eleven-year-old easiest to restart the problem is starting this bad boy you gotta press and hold the button. [39:01] That's also how you put it into into hibernation not sleep by you that's how you turn it it's not hot it's how you turn it off and how you you make it go to sleep, so you don't get any any any physical feedback it's very poor of the physical feedback on, yes it's so whether you press it down for a long time or with the you press it down for a little instant cuz that's the old surface are t you still do that if you press it why is it would just go away s are way the screen with. [39:34] We go black and in a certain pattern if you press and hold it for a long time it would instantaneously go right away so there was some feedback are some visual feedback this guy doesn't have it goes to sleep or it turns off kind of randomly. Is the set and i know windows key shortcut to have it. [39:52] Restart your restart yes I want to teach them the Windows PC because normally would end up happening is if you close it. And then you reopen it again and you going to your game and then there's no sound, or when it's of happening is i go to a drawing class for my kids and i downstairs and i i bring out this this actual tablet and i put in but the box peter i know i f, it's the analogous in August so I open this guy I put in the USB key navigate to 2 thank you for they're not made to restart quickly so it takes, all three for five minutes for it to restore really I thought it's not fast so I'm at similar issues and also Battlefield medic you see if it's the driver, and if it is you can go to older driver sometimes that's all that but it's similar situation Powershell script that I just got put on the taskbar yeah to, to actually kill the driver and restart it again so it's just a little. [41:18] So I got to get that from you in the past or spend twice as much in the surface go well where I did spend the money was I bought a of the SD memory card. Because the actual hard drive that's on these guys but not the platter drive but the so I thought okay it's got expandable memory the problem, if you're going that route and you want to buy one of these things right up right away. Don't wait try it out right away so what end up happening was I got one put some movies on it we go on a road trip come back Bubba block 6 months later. Thing is unreadable you can copy movies to it i can't enumerated i do a windows key to bring up with his explore try to go to the dr the whole thing is dick that little usp key is is can put. [42:09] So and it's a brand new 6 months go to micro SD card or USB key micro SD card eBay or Amazon what they'll do is they'll take up like an 8 gig card. And reformat is a 32 and so the if the factory to where the fat table makes it look like it's got that much space and it works great. [42:35] After 7 gigs would you stop what you're right past the actual physical capacity, thing just trial that will be like immoral to do that it's so we're back to nineteen eighty seven with floppy disks. Well that's what happens if that's what you have to do to. Due to with checked them see hey this is really physically a it at a gig or whatever the barbara for the numbers are someone just formatted it will it drop of i can mb are a file kitchen table on it that makes it think its thirty two when you writing to it okay, alright and it worked fine location table will work until. Replaced actually right yeah and mental there and that's white will i have to happen before and if so that the only go name brand or i run the tools on them to check the moment when they arrive okay so what tools you run on that i. I remember what it was I was using acronis okay. Of course I'll have to try that out the next time there's different ones you can check but but it's a it's a known issue they okay no I had gotten I think it was SanDisk. I don't think was a Kingston one of them was just saying. It was a really good deal on one of those deals. [43:55] Them other than the sound board in the sound what i think it is for the price for the functionality i do think it's a by my sister house for text okay this one is an interesting one I actually was looking for. [44:16] Smartwatch I smart watch and I was lucky enough my last work, they ended up having coming into a bit of money with an investment they bought everybody watches Stella this is wonderful I can get an Android Smartwatch I've been looking to buy one so very cool. You're not wearing it though I'm not no I'm not and the end and this is this this is Anna This Is War. [44:46] Are you like that with that was straight number one the fact is i can get basically about one or two days i could probably push it but here's the thing, when you got one of these smart watches you really have to decide why do I have a smart watch a lot of people have these SmartWatches because they say what because I want to track my steps I want to track my sleep I want to be able to do some of these athletic things because your phone does all that and I would be curious to find out and ask people, three weeks later I month later too much later are you still doing those activities so most of the people that I know. Aren't felt cute and his thing so I bought the Fitbit ionic I had a Garmin before at what I like but that's my issues with the charger on it about the Fitbit ionic but I bought it specifically as a. Fitness device and the bonus was I can get messages on it and things like that too but I bought it as a fitness advice and I was using it that I indicated, with MyFitnessPal and a bunch of other things if you're at work right my biggest issue with it is the recharging cycle yes so what I found on this one is I could change certain settings like turning off. [46:03] The the the heart monitor i could turn off the blue tooth i could turn off the wife i said, the more things that you turn off is the longer your let your battery will last i could at one point get it to about three four five days the problem is. Just watch at that point the hope of having a smart watch is to be able to do extra things with it like your text notification of the previous one that i had before but why it i've actually my partner had one in, deep the band didn't fit well on on her wrist so I thought I didn't like it because you only got your notifications once, so you really got to take a look at the features that you're getting if you can try it at the store first before you buy it, most definitely hook it up to your phone be careful hook it up do something so that you actually get some use out of it this one particularly I didn't quite like because the band itself oddly enough the band itself. [47:04] Your knees on your bottom of your wrist actually stiff as a hologram of not this one, when he got it will they advertise that you can try find one i try to fight you sure you could i realize you can take it apart, now try and find a different one it so. Still a clasp and it's the clasp when your hand is on the ground when you're actually resting years we lived strap like if. But. Actually have to know you could never strap this no problem. [47:48] If your are could you have to actually but without truffle to fit through there she have to take this bar out or just buy bars are like organ for free the jeweler there i am nickel. But you just spent four hundred bucks on a while and now you got to buy a strap they came with it for so now but you got to know what you're getting yourself into right the whole idea is to figure out what are you getting yourself into that was a surprise that I didn't realize that I was getting here. If you can buy from Costco or Amazon we go to return policy. Anderson store because that's not waiting to find out my biggest problem I love my Garmin can I go over a week then get to a week and a half I wear my watch I like the silent alarms and wake up my wife and things like that and I wake up earlier. But the problem is biotic is I get somewhere between three and five days on a charge it's not a regular on a regular cycle charging it and I can't really charge it at night why not. Because I'm doesn't wake me up in the morning cuz not on my wrist so yeah I get about 3 days out of this. [48:56] Where did night. See you seven hundred three days i'll put it on my and my contract and so i'd love one that this worked on my body motion mx around there that they have a flywheel and i charge it by going to the gym. And I'm surprised they haven't done that already cuz I think that would be stellar, they have regular watches that do that why can't get a charge out of these while they think they made a lot more power and the ability to change kinetic energy into DC and get it into the battery or looking at some pretty big machinery it's going to be it's going to be a little bit unwieldy review unit after the review. And I've had it for 2 years now and I still wear it and I haven't heard watch for probably 20 years so what do you use your watch for your weather and. Finding the phone actually have find the phone on the phone I can find my watch will you go both ways. [50:00] Only with enough only with a television. [50:08] Yeah I mean it does messages so you know you're going to look at a text message or whatever better why can't you lift up your phone I can alright everything else yes so the other the next thing routers if you're looking at getting a router one of the things that you probably want to take a look at that I assume i had on this right right lights i bought a net you're right or from my suggested i was hired as a problems with the range with the house and drop conductivity if you've got something like a rogers that the wife i rotors with rogers apparently there were the rumor has it they're terrible they dropped connections they're very poor at managing your wifi-connected so you're probably going to want to get a dedicated Wi-Fi router the thing is, you don't want to have both the with a Wi-Fi router from Rogers going as a Wi-Fi router you probably want to turn that on to a bridge, so once you turn that into a bridge people don't know what bridges are all I know is you turn that. [51:07] Box that white box from Rogers or Black Box depending which one you got you'd literally turn it back into just a modem you turn off the Wi-Fi capability. Okay that's the you turn it off okay fine so you don't have two different networks in here that's the one that that you are, dedicated Wi-Fi routers is providing you the problem of the surprise that came on this one for me was I. Start at the expense that I paid for this that I was going to be able to just out of the box set it up time of day service for certain devices Yorkie devices turn off and certain Divine L turn back on automatically at 8 in the morning course that works right of course it works I went and looked at it went to turn it on this interesting I have to now enable this thing called the circle. [52:02] Movie called so with that i had to turn on enable log in i had to create a new account go to circle so this is a new apparently product from Disney okay this is sounds sounds okay so I I connect, and it starts monitoring my connections and then I realize well I still don't have my time of day that I want to turn on and off I find it. [52:28] I have to pay five bucks a month I just spent a boatload of money on one of these nice on a Wi-Fi router that is super fast I can connect all kinds of devices in the house all simultaneously. But I can't do time of day service I have to pay an additional five bucks a month on this and and it just it it's something that I thought would just be for free, with the product of the motive of the router but I think what Netgear is doing is there they're basically offloading that type of of functionality cuz I don't want to deal with it so did you return the rotor or just let your kids get on the internet whenever they want I didn't return the router cuz I actually like the functionality that it was providing me I didn't want to go back to the LinkSys Wi-Fi router that I had and have. The how should I put hearing all everybody in the house complaining that this web page takes too long to load, this guy gets rid of those problems but i can't do the time of the service so. Buyer beware this is one of those where it goes in the middle. [53:47] It's too sarty a c six d eight you was the top of the line right at the time AC 1900 USB 3 slot media server built in and things like that I just put an external drive on it restore files or whatever. [54:13] If you wanted to use 5 gigahertz you couldn't use USB 3 for your media server. [54:18] So the main reason why I bought the red one of the theaters use if you're using the USB 3 it turns out to be the 5 gigahertz. Band and the USB 3 interfere they've got something weird going on with the interference on it it's a it's not it's not just a, Asus problem it's a bigger than that you think they were too cheap to buy the aluminum foil to put between the two of them I don't know what basically so anyways I have to go to USB to but I, speak transfer speed right so anyways lotta weird little things like that to interesting, okay what's next with an investment of but the by no by what is it and its in the middle in the middle. So see it's a by i have the lead with the media so i don't think that's the this i had esther next speakers, these are things that are probably going to be on someone's list at some point time in the future you get what you pay for that is basically what the sun is with the some of this is so I ended up getting a wonderful speaker and it's. [55:28] It was a wonderful gift for my sister I love it. Set it is a small speaker so it does click the noise is it it was. A bit of a gag gift and it and it worked. [55:48] I've got another speaker actually one I was lucky enough to win this speaker is one of the big pill Sony speakers at SharePoint Saturday from last year was an issue and it's a wonderful speaker I can put the power on connected to the phone it always connects and I can actually put it on so loud that when I'm at work, I can hear it throughout the whole office it is incredibly loud. [56:16] A recommends a few of them there some Chinese no name brand that he really likes all that they make him from Monster and Sonia and JBL right so if you're looking at getting a speaker if you can try it out wonderful if you can't try it out go with reviews and listen to what they say. Is it it if you'd if you bite. Hopefully that they're going to get a laugh out of it because otherwise you might be getting what you pay for. Let's go into the next one for some Audio headphones, phones can be very interesting if you're looking to buy some for somebody else i recommendation is don't unless they ask for specific ones that's right certificate if you can put a label on it put it up little yellow sticky do something don't necessarily buy it for somebody else so what i found is there's basically three different cleansers in here. On ear or over the ear so you've seen people walking down the street they've got these things are their heads are popping but you can't see what they're listening to Chances are they in the ear headphones. [57:33] So within the ear, there's all kinds of different there's subtleties with with the different kinds there how they they go inside the ear if you're looking for something for long-term if you're if you're at work and you want to listen to music while you're doing some support while you're doing some tickets while you're, doing some investigation and you're going to be having your headphones on for like 4-5 hours chances are you going to want something that's either on or over-the-ear my suggestion is over the ear. [58:01] Because i find that on the ears i got a pair of these lychee texas think they're h four nineties the problem iphone, if you're wearing glasses they pinch the ears after a vote, 15 minutes what are they there their Logitech and I think they're the the 490 SR5 90s I ended up thinking okay well that they're going to be over the ear so they should be comfortable they've got the leatherettes, for that the foam padding that should be fine and for that when you put them on your head they feel wonderful, okay for the first 5 minutes and then well okay then it's time to buy them you pull the trigger you go to the cashier pay you go home you put them on you listen to them for 5 minutes you forget about, then you end up on a long conference call and then you start to know that hurts ouch what's going on and then you realize. Oh it's pinching on the glasses so I noticed calling you got glasses David You Don't See, don't worry pretty girl. [59:02] So have you ever had a problem with your headphone yes okay see you know so i've actually avoided using these guys i'm. I have to admit I've got some on here that I don't mind that's the jabbers are pretty good okay some of them have an adjustable tension bands as well so the more the better that does not adjust the tension band well I can I can I can Brute Force doing this and I'm actually what I'm actually trying to do is spread them, keep them so that they're spreading and you have to be very gentle cuz I'm afraid one of these days they're just going to snap which won't be a big loss cuz that's how I feel got some chapters I got a few that are pretty good but typically I go so I use all kinds of different earbuds and on here I don't use on here that often I typically use over the ear but we're wearing now I got the. [59:50] I've got some for what would be considered audiophile headphones wearing some right now I've got two sets of sennheiser's I really like I've got some. Audio-Technica really like 1144 classical music other ones more for rock and roll oh so you tell your headphones there's also a open back vs. closed back versus, deal with open back vs. closed back which one is is is better in general so all things being equal the clothes back will be better for private listening where you don't want people around you to hear what you what you're listening to the open back has more liquid because the back is open but, but it gives you more of a Sound Stage presence that more of a like if you like Symphonies and you want to come in the violins are there left in this year. If you just close the two a conference call it all at the theater so but no you for listening music and dependent cup music listing to write a. [1:00:50] So you get more of a more of a soundstage and more it's wider open Sound but the downside is. The sound is actually coming out everybody else's a what's nine as mileage but yeah if you give your right here you be here when i'm listing to work with clothes back i could pri pretty private about everything to so yeah i'm listening to. [1:01:13] Something that I don't want you to hear then. Not at not necessarily appropriate very cool so if you're getting something for the office you may want to get the clothes back if you're getting something in a drawer in a door, oh that would be nice yes having a door would be nice all right next on the list if you're looking for keyboards. [1:01:34] This is Microsoft ergonomic 4000 I have that that was a set that came with the mouse's well right no this one is just the keyboard I have another version that came with the 5,000 I had that other 4,000 still have it at home somewhere else as well and I think the 5000 was a marketing skew that was specifically it was your head up with as a plus the meds. What's an ergonomic keyboard it's a shipping label so, basically when you go to type on the keyboard if you've got a regular 101 tell the waffles what you end up to hack what ends up happening is you have to shrink in your shoulders you can shrink in your elbows you have to twist your arms and your attitude your attitude. Awful angle it's The Cypher else so the problem there is it's not natural for your body could to contort that way, it's not a yoga class how should have your body Contour the way that I equated to is Kama Sutra, call Achu how do you catch the basketball like a great not like when you were in grade 5 have a girl. [1:03:00] Yeah but I'm not as big as you are more selfish think that you are so the ideas you catch it more like this so the ideas. If you were to put your hands on to a basketball that's flat on the desk your hands are actually going to be coming in from the side at about what a 30-40 degree angle and at the end your wrist is going to have around it approach so this is where ergonomic keyboards come in and and and help you imitate so Microsoft has basically two of these they've got the ergonomic sculpt and they've got the older 4000 of the prices of these of drop-down I've got v so much i've bought about seven or eight of them should be by before you buy more yet talk to me because okay we get friends and family pricing of microsoft oh that would happen that would be very nice because the way I I drink coffee and I've I've lost a couple of these. [1:03:58] Taught never used it. Hook up still working so the thing is what I like about this keyboard, is I like the key press mechanism that's on them the other thing is all the keys except the top top top row it's all the same mechanism right so what's the alternative on the Microsoft sculpt keyboard, it's got its got the hole in the middle at the sculpture carved out the problem is, the regular keys Microsoft has said we wanted to be the millennial Market that we're going after so they've got more of the chiclet Style. And if you're from the 80s or remember that, he said Junior Disney Junior that did chick like here it's not that chick with it's the new Millennial Chiclets Oak the problem is on that sculpt keyboard. Three different types of button key press mechanisms so our regular key the shit keys the function keys and then there's another set of keys they all have different key presses so I figure if you're a programmer or if you're a typist and you just you want to have the similarity across all keys it's not going to happen now if you're if you also happened to move your hand across the top and you just going by feel the function keys are in the same places that drives me nuts so and also what I thought was a godsend was the number pack floats it's on battery wonderful I can stick it on the left hand side. [1:05:26] Calling when you do control shift delete when you do that you're three-finger salute instinctively go there this is three fingers permission how much whiskey to put in a glass. [1:05:49] They are cool very cool so david when you doing copy paste yeah what do you do for copy paste your gonna use the rodent control the control seat while freaking control the pastor. [1:06:01] Inside job if you're using the metal we can control but if you're using the number for used to the number pad being on the right hand side I thought I could teach myself to use the number pad on the left hand side I can't marry last time I used to never had on every course so that would be wonderful for you because on that ergonomic sculpt keyboard you can actually take the sticker on the left but here's the problem that I have. [1:06:28] If you've got the mouse this mouse right here the sculpt Mouse guess how many different types of batteries you have to buy, three different devices take a while get three three different types of batteries going to have on the most you're going to have the double as the keyboard takes the Triple A's I think behind the there's a cr2035 I think on the on the number pad three different types, batteries that you've got us have stepped away in your drawer just in case the batteries go bad at the wrong time so you got to have those stuck away squirreled away just in case I didn't quite like that and the fact that there's the difference types of key presses so I'm not a fan of that sculpt keyboard I know it I know a lot of programmers they're not a fan of those keyboards they like the 4000, the recording that's just of your headphones all okay but all of this is all this is really a way to screw with the gas money is so that's not be recorded and a place out to the peters headphones yes yes all, you can really get our guess. [1:07:39] Play pass the dutchie by Sonic Youth cuz he's talking with the left hand side so. Okay okay there no vf4000 is a definite Buy, okay okay. My last company i was lucky enough to drive a tesla this was hansen and yes and. The X the model X it's the one that after I know it looks one. Here's the problem. [1:08:23] The first point on notes take a wild guess 200 will the ones I priced it was. What she cheaper my god i called her your driving now that that's i drive a uc bruce huff thousand when i bought it now it's worth it so this is worth ten times that i know so here's the thing. After a couple of hours saves the environment that one's and that's why they don't have to pay taxes they get a refund and they're allowed to drive in the kitchen people at four hundred thousand dollar cars need tax breaks. 6 hour plate with a new battery and you can actually buy a new charger for your house so you buy $120,000 Tesla and it comes with a free but you have to have a DIY project to install this new electric charging station for your garage or use the slow charger yeah you need to run extra cables. [1:09:23] USBC no not now so you can plug it in the house and I had to do that, range anxiety is a real thing I know I passed what I thought but I was driving to Peterborough by this Tesla is going like 78 miles an hour why is the sky going so slow. So you've got in laws way up North how long does it take to travel to get there to get to Timmins yes oh they died. But yes that take by the seven day long the governor eight hours seven or eight hours left it in laws that are up north as we about to three hours north of tenants the problem is the roads and did that to misc timmins. No no the polar bear Express the problem is I punched it into the computer. The tesla and it says how do i get there it was about four days and there was no more charging stations passed sidebar, actually had to get rowdy through separated go through north bay it when three separate and that was the last place in actually said you cant get there from here. [1:10:44] Yeah and I was flabbergasted so you rent a gas car for those times. [1:10:50] But I just spent a hundred twenty Grand order rental cars or the salt at that you have a program for those times you need a gasoline engine that they lend you one. You are my sky Pilates what I've what I've read and what I've told what I've been told and what I, unable to figure out if they want to have these self-driving cars this year the model 3 that they want to come out with you it's basically an interior washable car with this equate sociable. So the idea is you know when you go into these public washrooms and they clean themselves they got this hoes ever been but I've heard them they want to do that type of idea what the model X are the model 3 and the idea is they wanna be able to happen so that you can say I want my 50-60 however model what's a model 304 5262 I want to use that and make money for me why should I say it's boring for me making me money. I got a couple problems with that here's my problem ever what you spend 60 Grand on a car are you going to want to loan it out, to a friend of yours probably on my money out through the bank. [1:12:07] But that's not going to happen at all I guess I could have an accident yet but it it's going to be a little different from a car accident, so here's the thing they want to loan this out and have it running through and end. If you spend 60 Grant you're not going to want to have to do that hold on Uber is going to buy a fleet of them. So Uber is going to buy Harley wants to do is have individuals have this supplement economy. Correct so that's right here in pa if i ever wanna use your heidi. [1:12:48] How do you tell other people there's a cop on the road. Why aren't you do you i beach to find out if any of the readers i actually had to use while that is because that's why plus why flatbread of the through the down the street and i flush the page can you just ruled by a police officer and it's just common courtesy these that's what i was told but that's beside an 80s rule do new drivers know this. Forks of my son's a big car guy other than one of the very few of his friends are. He watches the grand tour and he still really liked, your oil level in jewels and they're talk money in england i don't have the numbers right but it isn't over the last twenty years they got less than. They went out at 75% less people applying for driver's license. [1:13:42] 75% less round trip across all UK or just in London but so as an example the way they would have been. 20000 people apply for driver's license typically new drivers and younger people they were 5000. I'm continuing to still have to book 6 months ahead and then continue to drop so the problem with that is that is going to encourage all the self-driving cars what the problem with a self-driving car. The problem with the the self-driving car is. Gotta be taught how to steer into the skid sure sure i don't think it's gonna get it right every time that i get right battles lol humans did are you sure but i would rather trust a human eighty skating then a computer cuz it could fly I would not good humans but not most humans. [1:14:36] I don't believe humans reaction in a skid is not thoroughly is not to release the brake and stare into it it's to steer away from it and hit hard hit harder on the break. I am looking and look at the tree so that's where they and he lied creek rolls in so we've tried to come up with systems. To help these situations and that's where antilock comes in that's where the there's the traction control so there's there's things that can be part of the car when I'm driving down the street in my car I turn off the traction control, and the reason is because that the nanny bought that's on the car actually hinders me when I'm driving I got stuck in the middle of an intersection because the traction control said over the wheels are spinning too fast I can't have that we got it we got it monitor Nevada Matic don't you oh I didn't say I love stick so I'm sitting there going I'm in the middle of the intersection stuck on a snow cuz the plow drove by how do I get off at 8 so I got to rock the car and these new drivers he's 5000 drivers they don't know nothing about rocking a car I don't necessarily need a license I've got public transportation I've got Uber they don't need it. [1:15:55] My niece and nephew I thought they'd be chomping at the bit to learn how to drive, it's very different for it because they could just get Uber to go to go drive from it also it's so expensive to allow a young person drive your vehicle insurance side so they don't want it it it does get expensive it does get expensive. The one thing that I thought was interesting was I broke it. [1:16:25] Actually broke I actually broke it, aight four billion of it hardly enough i was thinking of this like a break stuff i, with the Tesla I was showing people how the button on the back seat works it's all electronic you press the button that beat the seat goes out of the way wonderful. I was nervous hundred $20,000 vehicle it won't come back up it's mechanically setup it must be must have learned a lesson or two from Apple because the seat basically says what you want to do that no no I can do that better than you, i will do that for you i press the buttons it wont come back up again it doesn't have a latch that says on no no no, I could do this more than you I know what I want to do and have the seat come back up so another words this seven-seater was now a 5-seater because the backseat was stuck in the downward position. Okay that's bad enough this is a common problem I Googled it make it okay how much is this going to cost me so I Googled it this is a common problem it is a warranty able problem wonderful, okay why did we get the tesla can. [1:17:37] So it saves the environment I don't believe it but I did say it, turn will come back to that what is that so here's the thing how do they fix the seats the ship you a brand new one from montreal, descend a mechanic from Montreal we don't have any dealerships in Ottowa they ship a seat from Montreal receipts of God if he was 7500 lb they ship a seat they don't fix the seat, the ship you a new one and they take out the sea put in the new one they got to ship the old one back to the company heaven knows what they do with it when they ship it back to Tesla launch into space. [1:18:20] Is just one that was a wonderful marketing strategy that they have that's that everybody was buying it also has to pay for his hits to agree with you guys. I hate to agree with you guys that for i totally agree on the tesla think because but it declined of drives license i found an article. Agrees with you guys is totally happening more and more with younger people and not bothering and older folks such as ourselves are continuing to dress. My shoulder comes and experience issues win some of those drivers do decide in 5 10 20 years it is time they will go get a license and they won't have the experience the ability to learn new things at 16 vs 46. Just picking to ages wildly different ages is different. You're going to be able to pick up new things when you're 16 differently than when you're 46 or so the the sensation of, skidding around a corner driving. [1:19:23] Why was thinking specifically The Sensation that you get in your in, rear end as you're losing control going around a corner. You pick up on the scuse when your sixteen. Don't pick them up when your forty six for there are things that you lose those sensations are hugely important to understand when you're dryer making a case for self driving cars i know i have no i'm not because how do you teach self-driving car to listen to your butt. [1:19:54] Answers that were paid should we could is there a. But the elves are gonna have to probe you while your in the car and sever retina scan mode. [1:20:10] It will be a probe in the seat play trivia feeder have you ever have you ever drank before the last time was actually with you David no I said there are far far better electric cars, much better for your dollar more bang for your buck and if you're thinking a hundred twenty I want to get a luxury car there's four virus that you can get theirs Austin Martin's I like watching Top Gear as well as the electric McLaren. [1:20:52] I don't know what the price point of that back ways. If you can afford 120 what's 180 whatever very true very true. I need a new phone. Don't call and talk to thing for calling calling your phone and calling to device to take with him to Australia to do a little bit of mild Computing I think we saw that today was trying to talk me out of a surface go. Because the battery we have the same system that we had fun though the different system last time the system was if you break it that's fine so okay so I might do that but what are the Arm based, laptops surface laptop if you're going to go with the laptop machine for travel, a week that so try that but phone so i'm considering the google pics of three xl. [1:21:49] Paul throughout doesn't like it what do you think I've been hearing some mixed reviews about it the problem that I have with it is it's brand-new Google attack. Teething problems with their initial deliveries of all of their new phones this is one of their new phones coming out I would probably be waiting another 2-3 months before they iron things out with the pixel 2, they had they didn't fix some of the display problems until about January February March so if I was to get a pixel 3 I would probably waiting till about January February all calls that a dumpster fire. [1:22:29] I'm so Google is spending its making you pay a thousand bucks for a dumpster fire that doesn't seem to eat something before I go to Australia, or another option. Call up one of these stores that you can get. Not a used phone but a new old phone that's how I got my pixel, I ended up going on the internet, i need one of the old pixels there's a story tron oh i could find one it on we've all the use phones places an order walk there was one inch rato that i actually had the original pic so and I got it for half price less than half the price heart of the reason is a camera on that pixel three s is for both the best camera on the market right now and because of what australia gonna wanna, have decent camera on my phone to take a regular camera as well but I didn't want to use that phone for some photographs. [1:23:22] You got that regular camera why would you just not have the cam available all the time, okay I took this moment that this is probably going to be available so if you were to get a pixel 2, and save half now that the pics of three is out the pic so to should be a wonderful price point you should be able to get one I had a boat if not if not it's 75% if I 50% 75% of what a pixel 3 would go for tomorrow that's a morals and Friday I can get 603 75% price for Black Friday and then they go back up so that might be an option that's what I'm thinking, so if anybody else is listening by the way there's another special on eating do a buy one get one 50% off I'll go halves on it with you if you want, but I'm okay is there anything you don't care about price. So you should go for the fanciest iPhone does not have cameras not as good as the Google pixel 3 don't know no no no no no. [1:24:19] That's the relevant the for the iphone has absolutely fantastic camera. And there you go I'm tired of there you go you want to not want to put something problem is cameras. So if you were looking for features is it what's more important camera or phone. At the right now the camera okay in 2 months maybe not as much because the trip will be over. Now is the time for it also the OnePlus 60 isn't waterproof have you thought about the visit the T6, what's the want there's another one that comes with the red that they're always a good little bit behind on features remember the name of that one. [1:25:14] Go to worry about we can see five plus in the T5 so let's take care of everybody. [1:25:25] How much they have me keep your stick on the ice thanks for listening. [1:25:30] Music. [1:25:36] Smith podcast follow the show on Twitter at surface Smith emailed. [1:25:44] Check out the show notes and leave a comment on www. [1:25:51] Help others find out about the show by leaving a review on iTunes. [1:25:55] Music. [1:26:04] It is time for whiskey now it's the universal with us podcast at. The best part of the show so we have a special guest but we all have a special bottle David. We did we did we have the show it's a 10 year old so cuz I was looking at the notes for the a different one for the Glenburn rare handcrafted single malt whiskey, it's only single malt Highland whiskey from Canada yes. Cape breton highlands i'll be opening up here in a place called nova scotia also music. [1:26:42] We don't normally get that smell good. The reason why we chose this bottle and I will let that was Peter poor is because. [1:27:01] Peter gave this bottle to us. I like this one is not not normally i'd like a bit of a caramel color they put the for the add that. Attractions fairly clear that picked up and am i okay to citrus low low low low well as we give the guy the pouring at least drill yeah there driving for playing poker. So I rear it says so it says, it's surprisingly then it says palate mrs fish but no says it's orange. [1:27:43] Papa Citrus Citrus Citrus Citrus Heights chocolate. [1:27:49] Need to know what you think there is a taco new people and sherry terry's chocolate orange. Pallet okay so I can I can test I have that I have to knows the orange for sure. That's contest Citrus and that's fair enough. [1:28:07] Chocolate i don't get that was for sure that i get to metallic dark chocolate milk chocolate sis chocolate. And then the pallet it says add water and you'll get more of chocolate and the fruit. Chocolate hazelnut maple okay so i got a bone to pick our a i've got a rant i got a bone to pick okay last year, you are promised yes that the beginning and then i was going to learn about whiskey from you guys. Yeah it's it's been a little while that's calling that we did that we did for a little while you did anyway here's what happened we had it actually. We're going to take that segment and redistribute it under another name call the podcast. Could I have the domain name and everything and we are ready to go we would strip it where we had the idea kind of rushed and we're about to do it. Back to what we are about to release it it wasn't like we're coming back on summer vacation and these guys down in. [1:29:24] Good last meal from in nashville released a podcast called the podcast and had four episode dropped all at once and they were awesome they were they were just awesome like like we could see if we sat around and we came up with a podcast as good as that we dismiss it as being too good if we wouldn't have followed through that it was just one of the guys. Is a Korean radio okay okay and audio engineering and. Also has cons of with on down there mostly via b two mostly bourbon but they took the core concept as part of what we're gonna do a bit of good food to part it was the education that was part of the shit that show where the spin off yet, and they had the podcast out with that name and will of selling on the main name. [1:30:13] Did you make did we sell it what did you send them or what they say. Please never go to the road trip to Nashville remember the inside a road trip I heard about that what happened I don't know what happened. [1:30:35] I don't know let's go will you still do it. [1:30:39] Still we want you don't have a tesla so it's back tooth today when we both tesla shirt okay cuz i i i i love that sometimes it is basically drawn a line for me it's saving me money tesla's. Because to me there's two types of cars. Thing in expense from practical or test or something expensive practical or tesla and. Or maybe other hand car cuz the test was the only high-end car so now you know my car's was worth 12 when I bought it used and now it's worth like 9 or whatever easily easily exceeds my expectations of something that gets me from there it has four-wheel-drive I'll know it does all wheel drive how many wheels are there. [1:31:24] Just saying very very very practical. A tesla it's not and i don't see any point in buying a vehicle. [1:31:35] You know more expensive than like a Honda Civic virtue unless you have unless you are go with the high-end, awesome car so it stays anything about the Tesla wise what's interesting is after about 2-3 hours of going through the Christmas theme music it has this really cool Easter egg where you press the buttons a couple of times it will though the door is open the lights Flash the music goes my kids loved it it was absolutely wonderful. Did you add water to the West does it change it. [1:32:06] Yeah yeah okay more chocolate more citrus I got to come back to that I want to find out that way so after the after you get through all of those bells and whistles. It's still a car you paid 120 or a lot less you're a lot later in the rear end because your wallet is 120 Grand last four wheels steering wheel leather seats it's wonderful so you're just like me except you don't see the value if you won the lottery. It has a water pump i would i be looking i would use is my baseline and then decide maybe i bf i buy a ford f one fifty platinum maybe rafts or your truck i. So why wouldn't you get like a Mercedes G Class or something like that that's an SUV but still at your truck or SUV I want practical and a Truck would be more practical for me so you look at it. [1:33:00] Is a Harley-Davidson brand model that you can get from the Chevy Express is it sugar for maybe 4 but the Ford Raptor which is also, yes she is Adele, but it'd be tough to park inside parking garage. But i would probably get ford f one fifty platinum but at the twenty past the pete's keys in the back is gonna go off i think knit four people is alot of space tom upto boat to whatever i need a tow, so the thing about the test lays you think it was cut the power it looks like it is you got a pork it's got torque control and their para sa. For how long something that fat guy from Montreal. [1:33:48] Never the world on your mantel that you wash the cover the world's strongest man la jolla seven forty seven. Which store to he have had no so the i torque chair not torque this thing is is up up of shit. [1:34:08] I have a salad bar twice but you're the worst thing is if called it doesn't have a software that I have a Southworth call it it's just. [1:34:17] Is it a bad mood, go back to that Tesla by there's a couple of different issues. All working against it so for example, what do you do when you're up north and it's -50 outside don't buy a Tesla a pop-up trailer or a regular trailer for you don't buy for you that's very nice not for me but a lot you can see a lot of scenarios where it just doesn't make it practical and alot of a lot of things. Also true with the ford f one fifty raptor gas and air is what doesn't make sense life really wanna not spend a lot of money i got four or like of like or like a hummer h two h two. [1:35:08] What if you want a new vehicle. Bh2 it's not one-size-fits-all I have this problem too I will put incredible mathematical model up against certain things. Should I buy this and I spent hours and hours and I'll do weighted average spreadsheet. XXL and then I'll just buy things and do no analysis whatsoever so they think that you just buy is it out of emotion, yeah so this is where Apple comes in apple wall watch you to do it it's all one emotion It's All Pure, passion. [1:36:03] It is twice as good as a Samsung or a goose. [1:36:14] So who made it that expensive Samsung followed apple on the most recent may be the most recent prices they increase the rest of it, I don't think so but everybody's trying to follow the Apple pricing model so they're the ones that are leading the pack on the pricing. So we win this down over dinner alright. I'm not finishing that one haha. It before that before we we go to the what the delete asking is yeah house how do you get those different flavors in there, just smell is difference just melt but do they actually shave off some no no no no no. Scotch whiskies i'm not sure but the barrels for this but almost always he's from scotland are in bourbon barrels. [1:37:21] And some percentage, Barrel some percentage of Sherry barrels but are almost always barrels I've been used before and they have part of late so that is that that is almost like shaving and things cuz you choose based on the flavor of the casket get some flavor the wood and whether to american okra french oak etc right that's, Matilda's really 3 numbers out of the air but it's this is the dvd from the proportionately it's like eighty percent is bourbon casks and bourbon casks typically been burned. Hi yeah so you get some of the chartering in summer they pertain else inside. If you don't if we had done this natural to our i would know that wouldn't i got my sears all. [1:38:10] That was all the steaks right so anyways well i but i know that so differences make. The next most common is probably Sherry cask. And then the third most common by port and then is other weird ones like us so turns out at their wines but yo like that's like less than one percent there's a Aaron is a baby bottle that my birthday one year and they experiment with all kinds of different wine cask some around the world and they do special limited runs it so they're very kind of Abu Tiki. Scotch Distillery whiskey Distillery how can I take the door right now we did it we did this one with sauternes barrels we do this one with. Sauvignon blanc blah barrels or whatever as a result then you see whiskey from other parts of the world typically Bourbons are burnt but not always. They were that the story fire they had. [1:39:06] Stop and then you get other parts of the world without typically used barrels that are local which may or may not be. [1:39:14] Can you tell the difference in taste, is different so for instance when i fear this would from that would but that the but i make my deal say this is more to my tastes so for instance i look at of french whiskey like pass to, share it from the brandy region and what they'll typically do is they'll use brandy barrels, and bread the rest of the french oak but there's other i think us which was getting these a birch barrel. [1:39:45] Okay that imparts a different flavor. So you typically made out of Oakland and not sure why. I'm not a Cooper. [1:39:58] I've always having severe wasn't at work copper. [1:40:02] Cooper makes barrel cooper cooper cooper is cooper's the guy that does the hawkeye equipment, move the cup by yeah so we can you do i listen to you guys often and you guys always talk about the current whiskey in and and it's yours it's always a positive. [1:40:21] Ridgeview very rarely interested very well three reasons we buy with his we like to. Weed we have had a few we don't like we have been like the Drake we didn't like the one that came to skate set the. Oh I had a higher $18,000 for a Tesla 3. I have a different criteria depending on the money you right alright so you another question and in the water and we talk with at before right that there is. We have this alcohol in solution are right typically around 40% what's this one doesn't say 43% okay so there is a point when we only have four and a half flavors at your mouth can taste right okay sweet salt. Bitter and sour and then there's the 5th one that does umami Umami which is savory. Anchovy your Marmite flavor right okay other than that comes out of your nose like 32 in your nose right. [1:41:37] That's why soup when it's warm you get more flavor when it's cold as last it's in your nose. And what happens is you've got all these things dissolved in solution here so what we're looking at doing is releasing all those aromatics. Right that are in there when you add to water when your daughter because there's a point at which. It somewhere I can't remember it was I going to find a gas what's a 27% you want to get it about the 27% alcohol or whatever that keep Target number is and I don't matter that precisely when I add water Midsummer the twenties there where. [1:42:18] Releases the air maddox more freely because of just because the alcohol concentration the solution when telecom fishing higher it draws the air max back in. [1:42:29] So you want to get to release it so you get more complexity in the nose so do you also have a different taste depending on the temperature. Oh absolutely for example if your dad and your body wasn't zero degrees celsius i would nice to taste it. But I expect by the way to have one or more bottles with me in the Andes and you were dead. [1:43:03] So i do that would like it there to get a plate who we gonna eat. Orchid loving all of her. But the site i think i think i'd scare my kids if i did that lol yet up sorry you have so. We have Pam basically both of us would have kids until we had a boy but calling also had a caveat about but. [1:43:34] Why for the two kids but you had you you stopped your fourth of getting him a boy cuz that. [1:43:44] B c I had two girls I was worried if we have another kid and it's and it's a girl and and hidden history of showing I've had two so they could be all about you contribute hey-hey-hey-hey like when he couldn't produce spinalis keep going so the idea was I, you just don't want to have to so you don't have to tell the what that i third kit. Who trying for a boy yeah so if you have a neighbors did that i was suppose to be a girl my age hell are the my name's my name with olives and the heather heather yet so tell you this on our street for about a six your pure every kid born with a boy. All these boys in this period i add the with his other people move in the postman was a boy what is it wasn't of the, but anyways the fat three skin with roof in this fight elf so this other family and they. [1:44:52] Tipping Julie moved into doors down and then two girls already and I was joking with them yeah well you know that you have a boy so they have a third. [1:45:02] I don't work Friday for a boy. So having a boy is so much different like. [1:45:10] It's all about building girls always wrap it up okay let's wrap it up and we got a plan next week's podcast all right by everybody stick up.

Introduction

• Universal Windows Podcast – Episode 93
• You can enjoy us on Spotify and iHeartRadio now – great for streaming!
• 4 podcasts in 4 week – we rock!!!

Word of the Week

• Enjoy a sip of your favourite beverage each time either of us says "Future".

Feature of the Week

• Windows Timeline

News of the Week 

• Two brothers steal 200,000 worth of laptops from Microsoft
• Surface Vertical Docking Station

   

• Microsoft CEO Nadella: Underwater data are the future
• Microsoft Ignite Tour - Toronto - January 10-11, 2019
• Microsoft to add new PowerPoint, Word features to Office 365 in November

• Windows Insider Podcast

  Podfading – last issue was in June

Outro

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Whisky of the Week

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  Smokehead Islay Single Malt Scotch Whiskey

   

   

• After Podcast dinner @ The Captains Boil

Episode 093 - Smoke On The Water - Transcript Courtesy of WIT.ai Windows Microsoft MVP Insider Surface Phone

2018, The Surface Smiths Podcast Universal Windows Podcast http://surfacesmiths.com

Mostly News form the first week of November 2018

Transcript [0:00] Hello I'm Cortana welcome to the universal windows podcast the show about everything Windows such a surface Xbox phone and the windows Insider program here are your host the surface Smith. Hello everybody I'm David Smith and I'm Colin Smith and together we are the surface Smith welcome to the universal windows podcast episode 93 and that's four in a row. Ever coming up to. [0:32] Podcast right we have something special for your episode one hundred thirty but is idea what that should be let us know in hey guys what about the word of the week thank you we definitely word of the week David why don't you explain what the word of the week is and I'll come up with one but it's a drinking game and, you see use car coming to pick the word of the week but she got so confused that we now just look it up ourselves if you hear us use the word, you should have a drink of your favorite beverage so these are words that were going to say correct. Perhaps that are sometimes it's worth we don't say that's just the way it is. Nc okay alright so. Now that what I was told her what the word of the week is let's move on to what we call the feature that we could go to that feature not future. What is the feature that week it's called timeline and it doesn't tell you the future, but it tells you the past so timeline is existed I think for, twenty two versions of windows ten not including the recently not am released eight tonight and if you're a tablet or some sort of test three you swipe in from the last. [1:51] And lo and behold on the right hand side it says now yes and then at the bottom of mine that says October 7th. Nbc can scroll down and i said i was looking for something i remember about two weeks ago i a and then it pops up your searches it pops up documents you've opened so. On November 7th second I, went to Yahoo finance I was on Yammer ashleymadison I was on travel website so, and now it says cr112 activities, Evans clock set from all my computer so even if I was using it on another computer with my Microsoft account it would consolidate this elevating private browsing. [2:44] No I don't see any of those here okay so until this is this is not like your here's what it says what time lover is Club. Girl lovers club my tennis barbeque and bar smoking good purchase so we did go there that they actually there, and it says I searched that for my Surface Book 2, October 31st I was in Edge so you know what gives you a bit information about where you did, so save it if you don't have a touchscreen how to get access to this oh just the windows kids like Windows tab. Okay that window stop Windows tab. [3:34] Oh there it is that stuff can be right it's been there for a long time and yet it in the future you see it. Very very cool and also let you go between your virtual desktops. Me that before the video on that trip we can do to get my stay still hate the fact that you can't name virtual to. Kiss very confusing you don't know which ones which right to service number I never use it okay I would use it more if I could name them all right so that's a great feature the week David thank you very much. New story of the week year old typewriter sound effect. What what's that it wouldn't i'mma telex machine in the actually wouldn't of been someone typing oh stop news of the week i can start that off, this headline is to brothers steel two hundred thousand dollars worth of lap top for microsoft i think it was an inside job he thinks up those building eighty-eight okay so it, what does laptops directly surface devices so these are two guys Brothers with that one of them works at Microsoft and the other one's a contractor so they both had access and they caught them on video. [4:55] So this is been be for my for a long time with surface devices what's that there's no. Wouldn't what anyway bulbs are lots of your phone would be some phone costs more than surfaces church care it would be. I gotta tell him okay who could put a hole in there and then the people still would've after thousand offices devices that use woodhead. Go little further well these were already in boxes all these are brand-new Redbox. [5:40] That's not like the great maple syrup Heist or anything but but how stupid do you need to be. You to walk in such a bad guy jim and take about stuff and shopping cart with his cameras around. It's like when you hear an Uber driver being caught doing something that's like. Like that job is the most watch job in the world electronically you can't get away with anything only two hundred thousand dollars worth yeah what are you gonna sell that for on the block Market SF block surfaces but that's true but if you're lucky to find them they got the serial number is documented everything. [6:19] Yeah, harry will match it was two thousand dollars worth of wood does photo booths there be transferred tracks go about day after day after day i'd tell they finally filled up enough for two thousand dollars in, well that would probably be every single Windows phone ever made all right so that was my first new stories that'll be at night light note to start things off with that you've got one David luck for us. Because we're not the brothers unbeknownst to us a couple people have built vertical. Surface docking stations so what this does that connects to the back of your monitor through the four little screws in there the Visa can actually probably so whatever, and then basically you would connect your, your surface beside your monitor make your monitor little bit why there and that's the sign to work with the docking station for microsoft so you can act. And, he just drop it in beside your monitor so why do we put the video of that into the show note looks like an interesting option because you can use touch screen and Magic basically expand the real estate and you have it there charging use a screen cuz like look at my Surface right now what am I doing, you're sending you speak tounge. To spare if you knowingly is added them but not some people use the surface keyboard when they're at the desk so for those people not really a great idea why would you use your surface keyboard if you didn't have to. [7:47] Mr. secondaries computer, sure but I think it's a great idea if people who are just going to do what you do which is fold up your surface and use an external keyboard and mouse wine I have the display play available and underneath your monitors, this is really great way to see how much are these things seventy five us. I think we should see if we get a review that's awesome alright next news item. Underwater data centers are the future so Microsoft has, tried they did an experiment the off the coast of the US they built a small underwater Datacenter but they got their first production one now. Off the coast of Scotland, how is production production off the coast of Scotland it's connected to the grid and connected to the to. Fuck fuck fuck fuck. Multiple reasons what most people that live in urban centers live near a body of water gas sizzles bath fast, number of people large cities make Boston urla Seattle San Francisco. Yes to survival Las Vegas have a problem the anomaly. [9:16] Lake Mead is not far that's yes for that man-made water so well that wouldn't work then with it. Damn right Lake Mead is made by the Hoover Dam Golf Course. The idea is people are close to water real estate is very expensive if you want surface area. [9:36] Land and you gotta typically then bring in all kinds of infrastructure like power roads internet all that to the new data center of. So I put him under water he can be close to the population of you want to drag your infrastructure is far out of sight there, spell below the surface of the water so cooling is easier cuz I have a lot of water into the water ocean temperatures can go out but you don't whatever, that's the future so it wouldn't would it save them energy. Well yes and now it says manage because there's less cooler particular disused it's wonderfully spend energy on moving the heat out yes of the also dc, also able to bill them very very quickly than ninety days to build them, to get them up and running very quickly so there's that the other PC is there closer to the population Center so less. Infrastructure to build some energy-saving and I don't know if lot of people no data centers are. [10:47] Yeah yeah you're not buying that individual server and racquet it anymore now I guess this would be a little bit more difficult we need to upgrade or replace part of the equipment but. Sea monkeys are for oh okay. [11:03] Awesome alright so that's a great new story and what's your next Microsoft ignite tour so as, we all know or you're not allowed to listen to the podcast Microsoft ignite was this year it was in Orlando that was 5 days of fun and frolicking, call no I did not go to, the, January 10th and 11th so let's go let's go. Taking Leafs game. Oh that would be so yes anybody that's going to be going to ignite Toronto. [11:55] That's not a request not lighting Toronto on fire at the event called igniting Toronto let us know us email us at cetera all that information at the end of the show how to reach us and maybe we can have a little meet up when we get together see if we can do something do our podcast there whatever with the inside of him let's try to do that. Okay that's that's great babysallright. Last news story as you know Office 365 always adding new features and Lester the Second Story all right so. And coming this month in Office 365 bunch of new features. [12:38] Get the max of teams update but some the ones there that are going to be more interesting for people that are used to using the standard office suite. PowerPoint and word particular gangster new content creation capabilities so for instance in PowerPoint there is a new PowerPoint designer that uses Ai and natural language processing to convert. Text into curated slight so if you got a document in converted the slides for you have a report if you go through your head into things like that and build you a slide deck to prevent it I do that a lot of my clients 2030 page report, but of course they want me to come into a room and present to their senior Executives Etc going to do that for you. So that's a interesting it's also the ability Convert digital ink into text on a slide. [13:30] So I've been able to do that in OneNote. Alright. [13:38] And all sorts of other interesting conversion stuff the other interesting thing is coming up transform to web, so allow you to convert word documents it interactive easy to share web page is just a few clicks, so that's how you write a newsletter or show notes for a podcast yes you can quickly convert that into a web page and make it even interactive and publisher to the web. [14:03] Think about it why do i feel it the ai power point thing the best. [14:10] You do I do I do that's one of the pills to me is also 3D designer the 3D animations and word and PowerPoint. So that'll be interesting as well are you in the office I am not enough Insider programs. [14:30] Alright and you got the last word now and use David it's just that I was noticing that the windows Insider podcast is what we call in the industry pod faded they haven't approved in the true sense. So I don't wait wait how do you know they didn't have one then upgraded to 1809 and how to file delay. [14:52] Okay so maybe they did tell the future, take over again like we did before maybe we can take over in January we're in front of just pushing to the IRS. Pusher yeah. [15:22] Music. [15:30] What is the. Enjoy the extra hour sleep on the weekend. I don't really know it was good to see Sean we saw some of our old sign off, keep stick on the ice thanks for listening service Nation here are some ways you can support and interact with the show like the show on Facebook and servicemen. [16:08] Follow the show on Twitter at surface Smith email the show at podcast that service ms.com check out the show notes and leave a comment on www. Calm and of course help others find out about the show by leaving a review on iTunes. [16:25] Music. [16:34] Welcome to. [16:39] Chris whiskey park yeah so we've just finished recording and we've stolen something from down the hall have a drink with us you can introduce yourself we'd like. I'm daddy a we work here you are here at your doing alright well we figured this so over the weekend they would have. We went to college can drink whiskey yeah and we have this is one that when over the best but not and david didn't get chance to try was sleeping with them yeah so this is called smoke had so if this is a Ila whiskey so like lot of lin and fried that kinda style but the difference is hear the phone to call smoke and it is very smokey but it's. [17:29] It's different in that you get the smoke on the Finish not on the front end so it's a different kind of smoke and that this was really interesting in another way as well David. So I just did something really silly but here's the thing David by went to smell the whiskey was ice melt the mic doesn't smell, Scott that it's got that I daddy Smokey PT smell but here's the interesting after the first ship add a little water to type without the water for a tent then you add the water get smokier Smoke on the Water kind of thinking. [18:15] To smooth and hit the smoking the finished now at some water now and the water and i just said anything. [18:24] Even a little bit more tonight even more up to you what you like and then try and you'll see the smoke comes out. Do you think it's like it's like the water release of the smoke it's not wild. [18:45] Anything and it is not because of all the knee is it now that was my favorites too sweet okay i'll to sleep to ease of your, but no but that's the one I have the most to take home they went to the northern Harvest and the lot 40 and this and left me the Balvenie. Which is the most expensive bottle so I'm pretty happy I mean the office will be nice, ship is now yeah that was hard to find that's all that's it so. Anything else I liked it I was talking about you getting money back, no i moderate on my moving expenses in two thousand sixteen i'm taking back looking thru re sure your share this with the internet of a yes if all of the up and up and, have all of the paperwork to prove it okay to does he look to innocent it up to actually know my accountant is very conservative and now i'm saying okay now can resubmit all these other expenses to, then why not why not yeah that's what I thought and my accountant, who's passed away now but the time he said they're on today dusk or auditing them at so everything where he was conservative on he pushed everything to your limits to go back find me any receipts job and everything else we can claim it so it's like. Early claim quarter the house cuz work. [20:14] Calling you had me over your house right talk about your taxes once we set your living room right what the square footage of living room, did you make any coffee and you may be coffee, yes yes might by twenty by like reebok one we bought one and we wrote it off of the income tax and it's completely and totally legit. [20:38] Because why because my wife is doing technical writing for instant pot, yeah we never declared any of the traveling to the family when we were moving down from Toronto so all of the, like back and forth and trying to find home tonight we didn't do mileage I guess you could calculate all that so we'll see where it goes but it was just myself commuting to work, yeah, how you get to work with call and i think have to what they should charge depreciation hard to start up a hazard hazard pay if i work with them a lot or is this like it is the cut of somebody who you work with the cancel it depends on the project ten, drops good sometimes you all right, we try to have my back if you had a fun it was working fine and the life that i did at everywhere customers loops in the office siri went to lunch and she went to the captain's boil I went there Friday you did I actually tried the bag my mother was laughing at. What other night that's what should the top if your turn to buy look at the boy on the news and you don't have a white shirt on so that's good because that'll be okay to put the bag up okay her that's awesome yeah death, and. [22:08] But that you're the good stuff at the bottom of the back of the spice things to the bottom of my mom ask for it not gonna back issues totally not into that xy kaylee but i mean at least that was on the plate then you could like use have your ice and get the I could spices in it instead of the bag you could really get to the good, it's tough to know how to use the bag, okay let's talk to the boil all right. [22:53] Keep your stick on the ice a scotch on the rocks and your taxes on the up and up yes.

Introduction

• Universal Windows Podcast – Episode 92
• You can enjoy us on Spotify and iHeartRadio now – great for streaming!
• We are starting up our regular cadence – look for podcasts on a weekly basis (we mean it this time)

Word of the Week

• Enjoy a sip of your favourite beverage each time either of us says "David".

Feature of the Week

• OneNote Audio

News of the Week 

• Microsoft's Q1 2019 earnings
• Windows Phone: Why Microsoft built this E Ink second screen for its Lumia 640

• Is the October release of Windows 10 the "Worst Windows 10 version ever"?
• 1.5 billion Windows devices
• More than half of Windows devices in the enterprise are now on Windows 10
• Microsoft is positioning Always-Connected PCs as the future of business devices
• Samsung's Galaxy Book2 with Snapdragon 850
• IBM Buys RedHat $34 Billion

• Care of your new Surface

Rant and Rave

• Microsoft should just stop adding features to Windows 10

Outro

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Whisky of the Week

• The Macallan 18-year-old

 

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David and Colin Do Stuff

Transcript [0:00] Hello I'm Cortana welcome to the universal windows podcast the show about everything Windows such a surface Xbox phone and the windows Insider program, here are your host the surface Smith on Colin Smith & Smith welcome to episode 92. 34344 3 feet out the one that we were part of the quality was awful. I don't know either way we have one called Catch and Release catch-and-release no one would have been alright so this is the show all about Microsoft stuff and we got stuff to talk about 10:20 podcast in a year and more than that, dogs just look at the stats and we've done $0.20 about the September of last year. Hey guys what about the word of the week, chose the where the week last week i did and you know what that was a big room why what's the whole concept that would the week that we have a drink every time someone says the word that we cancelled and we chose, the word of the week last year as last week sorry as. [1:20] Hello. On the recording we want me to start that again I didn't need to clear what was the word of the week last week it was it was vote vote and we didn't use the word vote yet we're using the word vote this week so. People that were thirsty or left I'm right now it was holding day so you shouldn't drink before voting, old we're allowed to drink okay anyways i go pick a word that you do by gonna go with david for the week is david to make up for two well guess so every time you hear the word david, take a drink, okay alright to let's move on what else we got if you got a feature the week David I do I do and I had one but then I switch to the last minute so it's a. It's a one note feature, and in one doubt there's an audio button and you can easily record whatever you want in your notes, in there for the aunt that's terrible so that comes up to a little bit later are rant and rave for we talk about a new feature that you go while, that's there I'll start using that I've used that I taught people how to use that back in. [2:30] Biggerstaff classes I talk about you that no one no future okay so in OneNote, if you go to the where is it there's the web version there's the light version and then there's the Office 365 or office 2016 2019, okay built into what you ask maybe that's why you haven't seen it because in the version that's part of office it's been there forever for that version. [3:05] Maybe not everywhere in LED OneNote MVP can tell you when it was released okay OneNote audio alright anything else to move on. [3:15] Let's move on. New story of the week news David so first news story today is what's the date today it is in last week Microsoft among other. Tech Titans released earnings and their q1 earnings were 29.1 billion they beat the street. Amazon did not beat the street, I heard that potentially Microsoft was worth more than Amazon for a little. Of time but also Microsoft commercial cloud is far outstripping Amazon's commercial cloud in what measure, sales revenue okay but that's been going on all year, early in or q one and of continue to do so and base and have a gonna compensate, Microsoft they should be continuing to do that, yes yes of course so if you want to take a look at the Microsoft commercial Cloud I think it was what 76 or 76% growth wow, this quarter over la, set Lobster same quarter no no no no. [4:37] And your Enterprise Mobility which is in tune and things like that 88 million seats. Can you believe that I like the number two player nobody ever hears about Entune everyone knows mobileiron an air Watt, I literally never hear from it from the customers I work with which is hot right now this is sold seats right so anyways. And windows only am growing three percent so hundred and fifty five million commercial office get three hundred twenty five million subs. Tumors so roughly speaking let's just round that up to two hundred million. That is a lot. That's what 15% of no wait wait some weird math there a hundred fifty-five million hundred 55 + 32 is 887 if you want the exact number .5 but. That's almost 200 million subscribers that's that's awesome that is. And those are paid those are page and like things like Yahoo mail, I don't know I sure at some point in time was much higher surface Revenue grew 14%. [5:56] Valley last year they had this big Surface Pro for the North Avenue devices that quarter, are the surface go in the summer but then the laptop and the new, remember this artist porosis quarter ending end of September that's right so the goal was in there but that's not a big rubbing you think I don't like one or two rights August so this is based on previous there's a sleeper 33% not sure why. [6:26] I have a god damn connection learning and linda and i'm gonna have to break that down as a gender change from. A person's female name to, can learning and list better but anyhow alright so that's great for microsoft earnings those of us all microsoft's stock and you microsoft past the eight hundred billion dollar mark and pull back with the rest of the dow today and I'm not sure if they've surpassed out and check today whether there they surpassed Amazon or not, the heater on track for being actually another company of this system number though it is just a number alright. [7:08] So This is not really news but it was leaked and i kinda like that i want to cover it and bullshit perm the rumors but well that was real work microsoft was working on. Pink second screen and into first lumia the whole idea behind this was that the. And leap now microsoft was going to. [7:32] Release this could have gone with any of its Windows phones the idea being that people want some Dynamic content stuff at updating all the time and there's things that they want to keep just candy, you're getting on the plane and using any ticket if that's what you want available there but you don't want to have your phone on all the time it would be a great feature wouldn't that there's my ticket, set the. Wow that is fantastic four tickets but that was one of the things they're working on end. She's a few things that you might want to use eating for so that's a neat little new story there I wanted to include in today's news, we talk more about it it's kind of for quite some time so. Lots of rumors around dual-screen devices and it was talking about Andromeda and Samsung having a deals cream coming out so through old bendable all those exactly. And. [8:41] What's next on news leyva what is the worst Windows 10 version ever. [8:48] We don't know i would imagine that this the one that hasn't released in october, well you know they've always had the opportunity to being late and they've always messed up sorry nothing but, summit and eighteen tennis five don't think that the end product itself will be bad it's just that they kinda messed up a couple things about, deleting people's Files video drivers also Intel drivers can do all sorts of things so perfect storm of bad windows we'll come back and we'll talk about I don't think they taking this much advantage of the windows Insider to test if I think I take advantage while they're taking advantage of them I don't think they use them as best as they can all right so that's a little bit of a downer we can anything else you want to talk about that or two okay some other news I don't know if it's good news or bad news but Windows is now running on 1 and 1/2 billion devices what are they used to be. [9:52] Something less than that buu could be more notes and that's more than ios. So really yes. I don't think Apple's of has the ship to more than 1.5 billion iPhones and iOS devices iPods and iPads. The real key here is that, prom 2016 I have an article that says it was 1.0 billion right though it's growing so that meat thing is it's, the number to platform for modern devices definitely Android will be dying Android over 2 billion. [10:36] Yeah one of the issues with Windows phone and being with Windows as developers not what I develop for it because aren't they didn't have that Marketplace sure they didn't think they could get that that they couldn't monetize their called with 1.5 billion devices. The different story was 1.44 last year I mean nothing's really is really changed but it is it's big and as people move off of Windows 7 and we'll talk more about that later. [11:07] Others no opportunity there so. What are things we talked about last week was the EU, back in July but I know what that means for Google right, but maybe that's an opportunity for Microsoft as well now and we'll talk more about why a might be the perfect time Microsoft bring back, Windows 10 mobile I tweeted that today we got a lot of retweets alright next new story David more than half of the devices and prices on Windows 10 that's interesting commit last week were talking about how many were out there and we're wondering how that is it starting to tip i'm doing a lot of work around windows ten projects people have to get off its what four hundred days away now yeah, something like that to general fourteen twenty twenty and you know the last. Half hopefully she go quicker for some organization some organizations for example will start that will be a good stop getting in faith my customer struggling all. [12:02] Don't talk about that later okay they're struggling because some of the tooling for upgrading from Windows 7 is not working as expected, and they're having a goal with a wipe and reload when they have been killed piloting and testing for an In-Place upgrade which is the way of Microsoft really wanted people to do it but some of the cooling system, it has expected what a lot of the machines will fall off and be replaced church so they're certainly like a fifth via machines you can count on for that, so half of the machine so how many is that in percentage is David. [12:39] And half the machines developer how much more than fifty six fifty point one and it that you're quoting mary jo fully of the article there and so. Okay let's just go with it we're definitely crackerjack reporters 5 billion and 700 million machines it's almost the exact same number. When students i think. [13:06] .5 million Windows machine PS 100 million seven hundred million windows. Machine it was like a texts also have fifty percent no to hot slightly below fifty percent of that that's half it's the right its a fifty percent but if that is half of one point four billion. Yes it's a thousand hundred million it's not that much, it's almost half it had all the David I'm glad in your world a hundred millions of rounding error. Right so here's something i've been talking about for a long time, and the microsoft is positioning always think a pc is the future of business devices so you know for me, live in three big feet big things that hard drive me towards any machine that been waiting for the usb c for everything. I charging all of that. [14:16] LTE Lots the always-on and everything's liabilities I've got some strange, comic is shares a tooth all well there's lots of reasons we can talk about lap ability separately but for me that's that's an issue ninety touch and all that we think that we have a lot of those up ability is device by device, thing but LTE on there's a lot of advantages here one yo. You always let it we're not searching for you not using Starbucks hack Wi-Fi or airport hacked Wi-Fi or security. [14:53] Availability there's way more available than there is Wi-Fi. For the most part yep reduced-cost reduce class because organizations don't have to maintain their own Wi-Fi necessarily the people who are mostly out of the office when they come in the office there's no reason for them to be connecting to anything in particular. And then you could start moving to other other systems like Branch offices and continue and continue until, you really have only networks in your attitude Center carriers, probably start to offer some kind of a private network, on top of the lt or five g or whatever. Texas Method there they're providing that time but I think there's definitely going to be a push towards that. And it's going to come from the carriers as well not just Microsoft and then cuz they're not really a Sim provider Bugatti symbol that's about it. And device manufacturers of course have to get on board. [15:59] So here's the next news item that kind of ties into that okay because when we talk about arm chips, I'm chips of typically yo when they do the sock the the system-on-a-chip kind of thing is almost always had. [16:18] Lt motor built in fact write the kind of would have to order them without it for says yeah packs are to get it so one talk on another device, we talked about it very quickly last week but it's a Samsung Galaxy book to with guess what David. What. [16:46] It's there is now actually a Hands-On review from neowin and we can talk a little bit about that. The interesting thing is if you take a look at it it is almost the same as, surface keyboard with very similar Pro it's got the kickstand it's almost the same dimensions and their lost device didn't ever fix and that was just awful to keep writing so. [17:18] It Sucka gpus wall around Reno 6:30 Qualcomm Snapdragon 850 it's a 12in display 2160 X 1440 which is very similar to a Surface Pro 2, yes pc. I thought MicroSD and nano SIM how come Microsoft can't put 01 in butt out that's good and. Come to the pain that comes with keyboard. [17:49] And the thousand dollars us which is quite a bit less than yeah surface pro it is about the cheapest of pro. Expense in the chips from. [18:00] Yes I'm sure but not when you include the keyboard in the month and it comes with type S. [18:11] So Thai password Windows Windows SS home. This is a car and you can switch its regular Windows 10, for no charge last 10 home in S Mode yes it's not Windows RT that you can switch out it's when it's an s in it, alright well. They've got it thanks could work out really bad Okay so. [18:49] We've got more Microsoft news you got some other news you want to Microsoft news. [18:58] Color hair care feeney surface with but it what's i got this little article in my funeral newsfeed and was care free to service the house while this is going to be really la barba color bead where the kids happy to do dot drop my new surface. So they start off with. Basically gentle caring cleaning which is kind of a don't drop it say that the important do not apply liquids directly to your surface hey you know those who don't know that already are in trouble and no power cord you don't route the power cord up to tight you know, or I do next and Alcantara material if your keyboard don't let it dry before you clean it off yeah I think it's Rob silly little things that really but they mentioned battery health so don't don't, do them stop from with this crack and they also say you should at least once a month you should this charge it totally. Store in a cool dry rooney not using it is there like a white cell we're office for the air heating broken guess so anyhow so a lot of them are really simple things that you that. Right that you don't put liquid sunscreen fine we all know that but once a month drain it fully 50%. [20:16] Oh okay just half way okay let's is it true earths surface go and start the cold rush face i think they really mean is don't store in your car. Okay it's just charge the battery in the week we used to always do this back in the day with phones and all that other stuff and people stop doing that. And the Battery Technology really you would like to do. Okay so that's it for Microsoft news and we've got one last piece of music not if not directly related Microsoft, okay sure is more directly related to add say to other companies. [20:55] And i be am i bm bought red hat, 433 billion so first time I heard 34 billion it's only hundreds of millions different so I think it's the same number, okay that is a huge amount of money even for a large company like idea. A positive minus a hundred thoughts and it's still alive. [21:24] What do you think of it why did why did ibm do all that really why effects of the they both needed it and its a desperate measure so right now test for measured thirty three billion tell you what okay the IBM and redhead are not talked about in the big player face, you talk erratically google that but apple id but amazon but facebook it when occasionally microsoft and microsoft will my spouse of their items here here's the thing. [21:54] IBM has become non-relevant, devices perspective cuz they got out of the Lenovo unit right sure they still have them. Okay I saw the PC side Lenovo right and then they kept their server-side. Play in the club right so become less relevant there the still of them as the mainframe business but again known to maine for the month of the cloud weather not real writing a new mean for, hey because the team somewhere but maybe they still have their mid-range like they're a S400 and stuff like that but again whose, was last time you saw anybody working asked 400 right 2 weeks ago Wednesday night trying to do a refund it was a green screen I asked him what it was he said it was a S Finder i don't always have the answer right quick tips fingertips with the subject alright so alright so the hear my ibm's can less real than what does ibm have the whole Global Services large footprint of it professionals many many of them are Microsoft certified but that's beside the point what does redhead have. [23:07] They've got a decent OS that got a decent, virtualization stack some argue more performance than the and we're really okay they have this, openstack their their openstack player there they are peripherally a Cloud Player they like to think that they are but they're not but but IBM don't have a cloud doesn't really work Labs stock, they've had their data centers you could friend for ever yes, but they don't have a full stack no solution they have to park and have to partner if partner and red hat has a partial club stock they don't really have the data center, IBM does that why didn't have a footprint so together, they are three big players in Cloud are Microsoft and my number one that's enough in Revenue in Revenue Microsoft Amazon and Google, and help vmware's been cozy, IBM's blow Google oh well below well below. [24:11] And the support of us to work, like the both of us, he's becoming less and less relevant in the cloud space because the other day why do people want redhat versus any other product I thought the only reason was because you had support support, is there any other reason why I missing something. [24:38] They had better Cooling and things like that compared to other lennox's maybe better support for third-party tools and stuff like that right everybody supports redhat yeah but take a look at the. [24:52] Badger badger sound like 30% of all the VM thing running Asher are Linux VM and red Hat's a first-class citizen there. And so if you're running Red Hat what's the right why would you not maybe run Santa's. [25:14] Yes because you're not red hat if you're running your own data center because you want to make sure it works at your HP servers are your Dell servers or your was that other coming to make server so IBM, if you're running in the cloud somebody else's Hardware if they're going to support center state-supported for you that's part of it I sent Racino who makes sent us. It's community-based it's totally worth RedHawks is just an addition to the sentence I'm not a Linux guy so I'm going to make some things out of a shirt but work with me though. [25:50] Red Hat has the fully supported first class citizen red hat and red hat Enterprise Linux whatever works interrupt to then they have this other thing that's free called Fedora which Trails behind usually a few game free version and then there's a community in Denver that is Cintas which is community supported which is 50 binary code compatible, to Red Hat Enterprise Linux likes a bit but not as far back as Fedora and put or just have some things that are missing and then there was the selinux that was originally created by, oh I can't some US government organization maybe. That they that they created a secure secure version of Linux track that they gave to Red Hat as the custodian, those are the versions that are out there i'm on the server. Talk about red hat very very few people use read how does a desktop OS. You could but so that puts IBM, in a position that it's a bit of a desperate gamble but to stay relevant so if they're going to they went so high for price that really how much LinkedIn go 427. [27:13] True true and it's okay it went for. Hey Google I don't know what the financials were so I know that IBM stock dropped and red hat stock went out. Makes red had a little bit more credible basis um i think it might end up being a bit late oracle with the try to do everything on their own and no because he recently partnered up. But I think they have their own version of Linux they have the other bots on then they killed it so the crow, right who hasn't yeah so it happened sometime for Microsoft your son was oracle's Nokia. [27:56] Okay as if you were an Enterprise with lots of Red Hats would you see this is a positive thing, I don't know because I probably already had a strategy for either on pram or cloud already with a cloud provider I just got to make a compelling to me though so if you were already going with that you were seeing the advantage of with the free lennox vs having to pay for red hat you might only gonna wear like it's still my red hat workload stash or amazon yeah amazon's a little bit different but i lose their tools from right have to move to either them. So now it's going to have to be to potentially at IBM data center Mitchell for that we just don't know I would imagine there is yeah but. [28:40] We shall see is it too little too late that's what I'm worried about. The different Cloud providers already have staked out their markets Microsoft is the, S&P 500 crowd Amazon is the born in the cloud startups and those that want to build their own passport in the classroom, stop it look companies like Netflix and Facebook that are building huge application that are going to build their own fabric now they're on Amazon, yeah so that means companies that use both and that's going to be the case here what does that mean one-size-fits-all you pick the one that makes sense for you Microsoft is also got the pass massage market right with their Office 365 and other services or you're not going to go to IBM and get your Office 365, Android. And then Google is really staked out that way I know that. [29:42] Geography base types to give. It wouldn't global positioning system type enabled software that they all have that but can't get were google play ball things if when you go on integrated google maps and things like that applications like that sir ch. So what's what's your phone saying that David it's, it to start searching when you set okay if i have to wiggle. OK Google, yeah doesn't listen to me but listens to me so I don't know what we're going to stake out a different territory babe I got to go after Financial Services b****** with the IBM and so strong again or something like that. [30:25] Music. [30:33] What is Microsoft Microsoft stopped adding new features to Windows 10. [30:43] I don't know here's here's kind of what I was thinking when we talked about this. Customers or customers in general are struggling with the Cadence are Microsoft already went down so I can only do it twice a year so one time it was more than that, organ of two releases a year first one was about four months apart yeah yeah and, they tried to make it stable and then now their struggles with their October release around the quality what if they just press pause, and just fix stuff that wasn't working or made it better end when you think about it what new feature of Windows 10 matters to your customers. Set the consumers will my customers der all about. Creating more efficiencies right if so if they have less service desk calls less things break but they would like that easier to deploy and you can say easier to the play could be a feature. Are so will pick it the one picking last feature in windows ten that you really got excited about. [31:55] Was there one was hoping that I can finally get around and text messaging from my phone and my laptop okay but it doesn't seem to work yet in Canada. So then I'm okay with that cuz I have doesn't other ways to do it if I need you so most of the week you found today yeah it's been there forever so most people don't and it wasn't even windows and most people don't even notice new features so, I say your press pause are commode. Press possible i feed is a higher contracts easier to read the people dies but that's beside the point okay go lets go with windows as a service pack well. There's always the percentage of improvements to security perform since touch the driver in the cumulative updates or are in the semi annual releases. Make that a higher percentage for making the new features a lower percentage. How to speak baby every now and then you take a breather it's like every other could be every other was like Farmers that let their fields go follow just good for the Earth but they're going to need some feature sometimes like they bring out a new this and it needs to be out of this a feature, to support OEM server Denver. But maybe every now and then just press pause and you know what guys we're just fixing all this stuff. [33:21] We have to whisper because it's Alexis was born okay so yeah because it is because, sensor crazy so they could do it just the percentage thing or they could just to every other. You know in the fall they do features in the spring they do performance security and so from a consumer point if you I don't think it would really matter you would just update and it wouldn't really matter what about primacor 4.01 what they'd apply. So here's the thing Microsoft broken up their Windows 10 team into the, guys are building the future and the future and the team that's patching and fixing and I think these all need to get together, the best of helpers the ones building the new features and an increase volume is insulted alot of people yes but it. Oh that's why is whispering so i hope none of them wants to get to stab you what that be said. Let's get them all together what kind like what microsoft said you know what work were security first everybody just took that on that's consist of a bug bash party and get everybody on board you know it might be that they've other than the features for while. [34:51] If they told us this when windows ten first came up there's where whole bunch of user interface stuff things really have missing but now they've gotten so mature in that. Lotus Notes noticing what, catch up with everyone now it's not like someone else is gonna if they don't innovates somebody else is going to. Allows case on Windows phone for sure right they lost they lost. They're not really there way have feature wise and when they lose its because chrome os is user to administer. User whatever so if people are good by max because my max anyways ince, because a feature Windows 10 data that's not there no no it wouldn't say that you're wrong, they like the mac they wanna go to mac right so good then it's the hotel that if there was a feature with. What would feature really get you excited Windows 10. [36:10] Longer battery life faster gesture interface yeah but not every knows that. [36:17] There's nothing else I can do this this is all these silly things that people don't even use like was last time you did 3D paint. Set the. [36:33] Right so this is the stuff that you use like all the time you want to work customer struggle with things like hello and Biometrics and stuff like that they're there, struggling to get that implemented so what are they relying on an older version of Windows 10 and I never really, sometimes I noticed the occasional feature about being able to cast to display or something like that but so did they replace the built-in password manager with a real password manager, i use last pass regulators across the laces but no microsoft toasted that for me like the kind that do for your yeah they kinda do with your m sa with your microsoft account but the bill to windows ten built in password manager just is not I see you the password manager on the underneath the keyboard I see that also notes at the most people right so, do they orthopet OneNote whatever. Yeah and then regret it exactly what is Microsoft stopped adding feature to just fix things for a while I think that would be cool not sexy but cool. [37:51] Teachers are really sexy so some dollar. Number of sexy holmes was now was letting me sesame walking a hole in the wind but it wasn't a feature. What kind of Windows 10 supported hololens. I think we are good we are good so the show is over. Los amigos keep stick on the ice thanks for his here are some lazy support and interact with michelle like to show on facebook at surface. [38:29] Follow the show on twitter at surface minutes email dish of. [38:35] Check out the show notes and leave a comment on www. [38:42] Help others find out about the show by leaving a review on it. [38:46] Music. [38:55] Welcome to the rest of the week my fingerprints you was gonna be with the week but they still haven't delivered it really really from the surprise is canada post what they have one government institution working with the government institution why would I not expect it to be working official today get to regular mail there on time and they're in the right house or no but now there's two addresses are pretty similar anytime that there's any time they're doing an Amazon delivery date a celebrity has arrived yet so, how can you mark something delivered every having delivered it yet, boston market with or their little ppts social android devices and it has a gps and it's gonna record where it delivered it is in my amazon package tracking showed delivered and it doesn't show up for a day, well then that they're supposed to not do that. Bracket shouldn't do that okay okay I finally got your pasted into the show notes what I think this is a profile type picture for you it's a good one alright so, best part of this show the after party yeah is we drink whiskey now the fact that we switch to a new book gives us the opportunity to do some repeats. Okay this is something we had before but it's one of my favorites it is truly truly spectacular whiskey I don't think we've ever had a problem with. No because we don't repeat stuff we don't like. [40:21] And the one time repeat something that we weren't so sure about it takes a better second time that you sometimes could be a particular person rules yeah and this is clearly got a rule that you have of know about archer tv alright so. David it's the 12th or the 18th the 18th and 18th in the new book okay 12 Macallan 18. Matured select Sherry Oak casks from Juarez Spain. [40:52] Haha what do you fuck it is a very well area where it's color. [41:01] And it doesn't need water anybody gets dissed it's. Candy for me so I like it so what we can talk about we're going to talk about bringing back windows phone and I didn't write the article but it was just interesting, okay with the, the antitrust ruling against Google in the EU and all the fractured stuff around Android and people are now saying that no one's even here lots of people saying it's nothing like phones that excites them anymore, and also the Microsoft is sexy again they're almost a trillion-dollar true when you drop a phone, poet called they look at their services it's not broken are very excited about new phones sure but there's not sure of that now yeah exactly exactly so what years by the way here's. [42:03] Who were the mike. David beast but here's the thing. So maybe sister yep people are just going to want it because it's different. This packet switching off of iOS just because it's different so Microsoft, but we're different, but their profile also the company they're so is betamax it's different bombers gone so I just cleaned house a bit Microsoft her dog has been on a tear of their eating Android there you can Google Cloud business they're eating Amazon's Cloud business they're actually. Not an ulcer and they're they're actually leaders in a few questions so maybe they could do a limited release sir, either they would bring out some sort of you know for insiders only soda speakerphone. They should do they open source the bootloader. [43:16] Which bootloader the Windows 10 bootloader is an open-source okay suck it up okay. Cute weeks there and you can do a Homebrew cuz a Homebrew phone or just want to do is add the telephony pieces back into Windows 10 code they know we know to have them somewhere. Haven't left that's or something so I think they should open source. [43:40] But that's what I mean by insiders is that no no no no no no, so homework so he buy yourself an Android phone you use the window part XYZ they don't support Samsung but they support whatever you whatever, and you homebrew your ira android phone to use windows ten ml and becomes like sent us community supported, or like member xp mc or things like that number of use hack their x boxes to right next bmc yeah i did that, will it be. So what would Microsoft came from that. Point five years there's a one billion devices up closer my student id floral. But it keeps it cost nothing open source cuddling kind of. And unless the only unless they really want to do something with it may have a plan for it because I thought maybe open-sourcing that would open up a lot of their code. But lot of stuff that need in there. [45:00] But just maybe the telephony pieces people of the on the sort of thing with sheryl people shamed ec windows ten and other devices. And they shamed other things out of the Artis and things like that it looks like 5 or something like that somebody did. That was on the phone or something they did they can help with that they could make it so that some modules precompiled but you then could start a string it together and, esther shim windows ten on the new at the top left any pieces to make a phone yeah sure. If you think about the arm code but the arm code may require so it won't work, old Android phones, great for 2850 now there's different 850s though right some don't include x86 ability. [45:59] Hung up yeah but i think he a couple years america will have. And not all phones have any 50 in them, very few phone seven eight fifteen eight fifty is not really designed for phones is that most of the forty five ft same thing yeah the forty five is more phone base chipped the eight fifty was designed specifically for tablet and. [46:28] Are the visit Burien specifically for tablets anyways we're running x86 outside BND. [46:36] I think I'll pass but you'll do a Kickstarter on this no no it's totally a home brew beer kit. [46:45] Okay so I had to new internet put in my house today, no fiber you got the got the gigabit and. $300 in the next three months if I don't cancel. [47:09] What they pay you 300 cancel what do you mean they skipped credits. Okay so in outside that's fine it's whatever it's faster and it's lower latency I think so you know I don't have really any chances that's it yet but I'm sure it'll be fine it's less expensive than I was paying before cable. Faster but no big deal but I was decided that since it was less expensive I give them money and get some sports channels cuz I have a little sports fan at home right so they have this in a box that goes behind your TV. Don't have to put a wire between your tv and your and your access point they do this by giving you wife i'd, are these wife i access point so laughs what's so odd the on the access point in the basement there's one that cable comes out and goes into this to transmit up to the phone and then to the TV and then one in the TV that goes to the ethernet cable on the back. [48:09] And it's like you think they would buy their devices with built-in Wi-Fi instead having to buy the all these external devices. [48:17] It works so what are you paying for months now. Just for that just for the internet 7373 says 9:40 but I haven't got 9:40 yet what are you getting. Like 700 still more time Kenny Biggs and then they put it onto a whatever Channel or whatever they would call it. And he says laws of three people. But they just literally bury the cable and my and my neighborhood so i also ask them what are they gonna do with your old phone lines, hey cuz you think that will be a lot of work to maintain those when they put some new they try to push people over, it really that much to see if your with some of my tech savvy your these third of resellers they leave them for tactical reasons or maybe not protect the reasons on the copper. Eventually just going to get rid of one of these a minute seems like a lot of effort to maintain the old system. [49:22] On the making money thing sold it i guess i guess because it much most people bothered switch. And member it now this is it totally to built in throttle for their back will not work, cuz if everybody was on gigabit their back Burns their back bones than saturated sister the built-in filter for the backbone and then people who each of a gig, or do you have to get your ass off again today, set up, taking plugged into right its Upstream right. It's fast once you get to the backbone at things will slow down. Yeah so it's just a little office in my neighborhood and the Beast labs and then, but anyhow it's interesting that these list of the Surfside DSL access manager. They end up with 1:35 different devices they put in my house. [50:41] A lot of a lot of Hardware okay. [50:48] Teacher i never thought it have a peavey are waiting on pier cuz they include that that's your channel's because i got channel that's your cable so i can get a sports. You stream sports well i suppose i suppose but he can't expose you can do them some of the for twenty dollars a month. To get all this for my biggest and you can record that I'm happy to pay for it I just wish it were more convenient. [51:14] Suppose i get some sort of online service now they have a pal account i could probably just rim of many were now cant so i don't really need any of this she's come to my fire got the stick will not even that, what does what are using for display for your dumb TV a dumb TV okay that's, they put in three boxes. So there's a few want sports sports sports is the only thing I watch I watch live. [51:53] Super Bowl commercials I don't know why you would record it, but this ticket comes it's the way it is I don't really want to court a baby I want to pause it maybe want to start a little later when I get home and fast forward it through it or whatever but those are incredibly minor I want to watch sports live. Yeah I like the way we watch the hockey game last week better beer, fluid and mrs casey like at the rings got the arena that's just all old school techno stupid three extra boxes of my house and if they just give me an account that hurt that work to their app which they probably did yet then why would i, I'm commercial because I have business at home so it's it's the same price or less that they give different boxes so once I get back from Australia puppy switching. I'm on freenet I like freenet good service etcetera free that doesn't let you switch what do you mean. [52:50] They'll stay on your existing copper. Now you can become a free night member for free. That's what the whole concept was but back it up i expect at some point they will allow the. Resellers to sell fiber as well but I'm not the first one to ever get fiber so I assume they're just delaying it so they. Don't have to buy a buddy of mine office next door he got income fill for 5 months ago right so. [53:33] They're just delaying as long as possible I'm sure it's for technical reasons. Okay this is again from the hundred and one are you shouldn't track milly should fired one whiskeys to tie to tie before you tried okay a quick glance around the shells it any decent specialists retail were confirm. There are quite a few different mccallum's mcallen's is that the one and not the other mcallen's okay color. [54:13] Dramatic dark mahogany Richmond. The. [54:34] There's definitely a penis taste. Powerful Sherry yes absolutely why not some smoke very very little smoke chewy Vanilla Fudge shirt spicy glazed I mean definitely the Sherry really does come up, that'll just, but it comes up very well to me you can definitely tell this is Sherry cask, enjoy that okay you know we should have that kinda late now which is videotapes recording this show no one ever gets mission cappy more in two minutes so i pick two minutes of it and it, very round and consistent some smoke hints and classic take notes. [55:18] Trike fruitcake having that food taking us to it, this is an expensive bottle is now because they were victim around success so they ran out basically and they took all this is from not available in our Market. Play put it in New York L A Las Vegas few other markets London Tokyo where people will pay exorbitant price of quadruple the price because it is it is i could other than that there other whiskeys has good the coastline as it has good butter yeah so, it's not like 50 or shot in Vegas basically yeah. [56:09] Alright that's all I got that's all that's all that is an awesome Whiskey on the Rocks we will talk to you later by the way my name is Dave so drink. These are the days I know I know.

Introduction

• Universal Windows Podcast – Episode 91
• You can enjoy us on Spotify and iHeartRadio now – great for streaming!
• We are starting up our regular cadence – look for podcasts on a weekly basis (we mean it this time)

Word of the Week

• Enjoy a sip of your favourite beverage each time either of us says "Vote".

Product Update

• David still likes his Surface Go – except for the battery

Feature of the Week

The Cloud Clipboard, which keeps a history of items you cut and paste, with the option to sync those saved items to other devices. (A new Snip & Sketch app makes it easier to capture screenshots and then annotate, edit, and share those captures.)

News of the Week 

Headlines

Paul Allen—Microsoft co-founder, Seahawks owner, and space pioneer—dies at 65

  Windows

1. Windows 10 October 2018 Update no longer deletes your data
2. More Windows 10 October update woes? HP users report BSOD after Tuesday patch
3. Sound Issues with Windows 10 October 2018 Update
4. Microsoft finally confirms that Windows 10 is installed on 700 million devices
5. There's more you can uninstall with 19H1

Surface

1. Microsoft's New Battery Limit for Surface maintains 50 % Charge
2. PC market flat, as Surface becomes a top-5 computer brand in the US
3. Microsoft is right not to include Windows 10 Pro with Surface Pro – here's why
4. Samsung launches Snapdragon 850-powered Windows 2-in-1

Microsoft

1. Microsoft promises to defend—not attack—Linux with its 60,000 patents
2. What Microsoft's executive compensation metrics say about its priorities

Other

1. Windows 10 users: Chrome 70 means you don't need Edge, Microsoft Store to run PWAs
2. "There's more in the making"—Apple announces October 30 event

Rant and Rave

• David complains about ISPs charging a disconnection fee

Outro

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Whisky of the Week

Quinta Ruban is Glenmorangie's port finish. To craft this single malt they specially selected Port pipes from the Douro valley in Portugal.

Transcript Courtesy of Wit.AI - Episode 091 - Final Nail In The Coffin Could Microzon dethrone Google as the Android Overlord?

2018, The Surface Smiths Podcast Universal Windows Podcast http://surfacesmiths.com

David and Colin Talk about Windows 10, Surface Updates and other Industry news.

  [0:00] Hello I'm Cortana welcome to the universal windows podcast the show about everything Windows such a surface Xbox phone and the windows Insider program here are your host the surface Smith's body called. Yeah and I'm just getting over the comment you're saying that I'm hotter than you call him John and sunrise again for Their audience, the microphone for some reason your mic is louder than me even though we have the same microphones hotter yeah but that maybe I've got a kink in my cable or something somewhere cuz I got to turn my gain up slightly and I'm still not coming in as hot of the mics as you. [0:45] So episode 91 yeah today is what October 22nd it's election day here in Ottawa Ontario, Ontario Municipal elections yes and I will be able to vote because of his recording. We could sure, okay so we've got a lot of things to do this is to no bro to look, wasn't two weeks that's a bit of a record forest but is different some housekeeping need to do hey guys what about the word of the week, David do you want to call for the work I do alright what do you have about vote. Right foot with your dollars yes alright so for those of you that are playing the game and those of you want every time you hear the word of the week, you don't take a drink so we can hear vote what about. [1:42] Three. [1:46] Devote. Are you devoted to your wife eroded to your tablet okay okay okay so whenever you hear the word vote. [1:58] The word that says. Okay alright so any other housekeeping we have David or we going to get, separated would actually do we know we have light you know we have we have, if it's for the week that's not housekeeping housekeeping that's a real show stuff but we don't have a bumper for it. We need make bumper okay feature the week and now the picture of the wave thinkative the feature of the week, o'clock support so you get this with the fall update so what we're calling, 18 H2 or they're calling 1809. [2:38] The Windows 10 2018 Fallout has a feature called Cloud clipboard, keep the history of items you cut and paste with the option to sync those saved items to other devices, this device is not just other windows that's right and yes snipping sketch app also makes it easier capture screenshots that annotate and it sure those as well it's rights so stupid scratches a what. It's a Widow's yes but what does it replace the old Snipping tool, is the old pocket moye luis to call it the fuck am i guess yes so we have an actual no see video on how to use the clock support an article on it that's the future week i wanted to host fifty trimming. Otherwise use email the same thing a lot more ask people questions same question, non be nice to have that somewhere in the face buffer and just use it regularly be nice basically macro keys for the gamers and things like that. [3:38] So that is the future of the week everything else want to say about that David, all right onto news story of the week so we have a lot of time we thought we'd actually organize news little bit better for you well that is Paul Allen who is the co-founder of Microsoft, so a lot of people don't know that Paul Allen was the co-founder of Microsoft actually he's the guy that. That convinced Bill Gates to drop out of school and join him at. At Microsoft was about Microsoft with a dash micro - soft use writing software for the Altair, and he stole Nicole Nicole founder but I think you left me the founder but he was the first one there employee one Kia resigned from Microsoft in 1983. [4:39] Is on the board obviously since he owned many shares i think of in the nineties yeah he, he started Microsoft. And he resigned it 83. He had play struggled with cancer, for a long time for a long time but Microsoft went public maybe 6 and he still maintained a lot of his owner, so that's how I became a billionaire and went on to do all sorts of things he created on investment firm called Vulcan. [5:09] Had a lot of funding of space space Ventures, what is the name of his company to straddle arch okay and then of course he owns the co co. Guy in Seattle Hill did he actually bought the Seahawks because they, dog is looking at moving the California tonight. So Seattle Sounders Major League Soccer and lots of things like that. So sorry to see him go we did a lot for technology did a lot for the world as well as the pacific northwest quite the philanthropist ask as well as visionary you so so have a moma sounds. [5:59] Not too long or else our editing software will do weird things to the do it but the hat's off to you Paul. [6:06] Alright David our next group of news items of all around Microsoft Windows swallow the first one. [6:19] Maybe it should start with me because I have heard there are some people still have. [6:25] Price of Microsoft believes it's solved the issue and they've released it to Insiders, to test out whether it does or doesn't have anyone to lost data during that first wave of roll out there working with them to get some data recovery done that's right so that's good news but still kind of scary that it would happen kind of slow though I mean where, i haven't seen the update take this long to get to the people who seek it, great so we got a lot of new stores around this update so other issues with the 2000, the October 2018 update is HP users are reporting a blue screen of death you have an HP I have one in the back over there were given to me by a client for specific work tasks well that won't be running Windows because I know the client yes it is not running Windows 10 I'm helping them get to Windows 10 but it's not running Windows 10 now also are you at another October update issue you want to talk about, the weather were sound issues with the october oppose that's sound with intel drivers intel as intelligence which early my cause does not have if, so you couldn't you didn't like that ad yeah yeah yeah I don't like being made fun of, will be better for okay okay so then to tell us that the sound issues or just certain intel drivers that there are some issues and you they for this to drivers so really who lisa drivers intel or microsoft. [7:54] I'm not sure so might but they are not release my understandings it until shipped bad drivers to Microsoft in Microsoft Excel. [8:02] That's nice so somebody gets a fail somebody gets a pat on the back. Knowing it's pat on the back because he should have released on that testing them, get well intel such a minor platform nobody really uses intel here different windows ten right so. Are most will run arm chips yes right. [8:21] Despite all those walls. Is running on how many day a hundred million. Device is not 700 in the latest at nine billion devices map, either time showing there was a cylinder, about to seven hundred and they recast it to seven hundred million when they stay. Yeah cuz we're in Windows phone so that, that's not exaggerating at all right get so thank you the 700 million an interesting number because you look at the, download Windows device usage I think windows, Windows 10 is what about 46% of all windows devices, and is that what it is I will take a look really quickly you talking David keep the boys and girls all the chain. Okay so it's it's what happened we don't need to get back to your numbers right and all made up and down all the time so the last I read was at 46% Windows 10. [9:46] Guess Windows 7, and as Windows 7 approaches end of life, 20/20 less than 16 months from now. Well that's a little bit more than 16 months from now, you'll see a lot of those machines and most of those I would expect a corporate as well as, will you have a lot of people that problem, really in a good position. Carrie runs better than just having the same Hardware anyways so, corporation so what of my quite corporate clients very few worker, completely converted to Windows 10 I had a meeting today very large government Department looking at close to 50,000 devices, right now I would expect less than 20% of the federal government Canada which means over. Hundred thousand devices of color lean large i wouldn't i wouldn't, Apple government it's easy to pick on the table I find with my customers about talk about what I know so I I don't think it's unreasonable to expect sometime next year to pass 800 million easily what they hit a billion or not anytime soon I don't know, yes yes so yeah it's not out of the realm of possibility just not in the time frame that Terry predicted. [11:15] Okay so that we talked about more and more is more I had a friend whose name was less in the Easter clam less is more. [11:32] Me that we got so less is more because us with, ew version coming in the spring i just finish talk about the fall update definitely he got pulled nobody has yet but that one some people do but, 1981 which is the shorthand for the Virgin coming out, 2019 and 1903 whatever you want to call it yeah we cuz they haven't officially named it yet until my tough names it, can we calling it 1981 they're allowing to uninstall, more of the Bumble apps to scrape corporate customers just don't like that stuff about her computer I feel needed or they replace with something else so things like grooving paint 3D anymore, and things like that but now, elevated Sprint 3D remove paint 3 Skype was already there tips and weather but now the list is getting longer so, little bit more control less is more, the theme for that item that's much better way to work this face back then deleting files. [12:54] Go to frisco okay how's your service go handling david it is good it is good i have a primary computer. [13:02] With cop monitors and then I have this which I just plugged into my Surface docking station so it has a couple mother's and for the. All of the things um doing. [13:14] Often documents to in were processing surfs the web it is working. Like a real computer. Yes I got a little lens cap right now so as long as it's the battery the only problem I have with it is my hands are too large and its batteries too small. Surface news from Microsoft got a new, its new from where upgrade call of that. [13:44] Thank. It's to text if the device is plugged in, if its plugged in pad and above fifty percent it allows it to deplete its battery discharge, who gets to 50% it tries to maintain it a 50% level. This isn't for everyone I don't like my battery 50% I usually I don't panic but if I'm at that situation before I charge it, but my machine hero and they say the battery will last longer they don't me they mean that life expectancy of the battery over a Year's yes versus in your daily use remember that garage project was built into a metal kiosk. That can be plugged in 24/7 all the time. Then it doesn't match the battery died that's cuz you can't put it, it doesn't run directly off the AC Mains for UPS, not all kind of but don't run directly off the of the sea mains of this not. The third. I'm like 20 cell system it's always Dawn nobody is a Surface but that's too expensive. [15:11] And Brandy situation where they have a strap down to account or something like that, so I'll leave it here I have it 94 the time it's plugged into my dock here, I don't know what I love is if I could tweet that maybe not 50% maybe 60 or 75% maybe you can read when you free the firmware update will take a lot I will definitely do that. So they're they're planning having for surface goes well as others as well but that that's good news for people have an old surface, Pro 3 like I do still works great, music daily at work okay here's something interesting. Do I take this one sure the PC market is flat but surface is the top in the top 5 computer pins which is not surprising. [16:00] Well it's else would there be well you can guess the top two number one is heavy HP, right number to open the case for Last 5 Years. [16:11] Number 3 is Apple, now little lenovo okay and i wish it would be spicy or number one for this is corporate well this is quarterly sales for eight so, this is based on Q3 which ended at the end of September okay alright so. In that time frame hp was four point five million units sold. So I'm not sure if that counts, make sure it doesn't go no were not slim talk, Microsoft Surface device is only .6 million per quarter. [17:00] What's the number 5.6 million / 4.5 yeah 3 times smaller than, they're still number five and guess what they dropped guess who they bumped from the V Spot. [17:15] Kickass amazon now hugo they'll love another make pcs google makes pieces. Crumpets and who do they drop through the truck i believe its a acer. [17:33] Bunker oasis isn't six this passengers okay. [17:42] Totally won't catch apple anytime soon and well let you know how they were catch apple. Apple would just continue to be an action which they've been doing for quite a while, so i was reading an interesting article from denver be know that would the central. [18:08] Scarf, so his article entitled Microsoft is right not to clean windows 10 Pro with Surface Pro and here's why and I'll do them, I don't always use more of a consumer guy and I'm more of an Enterprise guy and a lot of times I said I could see that for consumers but not for the people that I deal with on a regular basis, but this isn't for the people that you do with a regular basis. If you look at it if my clients would want Windows 10 Pro with their surface devices and they would get it right so here's the thing Microsoft bundle of license with no ass with its device and the biggest reason that the new copy of the Surface Pro 6 excetera, what's cheaper than the equivalent surface device at the previous launch. Is mostly due to two things 1 the Intel Graphics chips. No longer included with the i7s in. [19:17] Not bundling window Stanford Oaks about $100 extra to bundle that right and, Hillwood people with all sorts of things you get with Pro but most consumers don't need it so what's happening is consumers that were running the machine as a standalone or small business person that doesn't have an Enterprise they can't so they don't have to join, right right you don't have things like i privy you don't have things like. Enterprise data protection fetch i think you need a dinner price for anyways but what do the description. [19:56] I don't have to beverage well because bit locker for him but he, eat that and some either really versions of tanner maybe it was a that was not included in the home edition and now it is still and again i was his pro so that you can people so it people definitely need to have their device encrypted. They said nobody needs to die had a domain it home before, thank. So is that so it brings the price down and now get let's talk about it education, an enterprise most in apartment no have enterprise give it any ways and they, take the skip protocol right to Enterprise right other putting that on the same with schools really good price, there's there's different ways, is she in an enterprise clients to buy surface devices and get, pos they need if they want to but i can most enterprise idea with already have me a and we replace with on it. [21:11] That work pro in the pro not including pro yeah that's confusing people yes it was a good idea at will he claim the station in call with justin pro honest and for the skull to this tonight key before it. [21:29] Ferrite last piece of news at our surface category it's not really surface related but it is of course of our eight. So the first. [21:42] Windows on arm on a Snapdragon 850 is launched the first of the first mainstream guess who did it, Samsung of course so now there's anything you're right I did a review of one of the Samsung tablets while ago right. Was just off the have this or game keyboard like my act like i pad does and it was just nothing at all like the surface with kickstand and so i'm looking at here in his kickstand. [22:18] Well of course so if you combine that with an with battery life of a c eight fifty this might actually be an awesome dress it could be sleeping in review unit, yeah right so size is it in us. 2 and 12 inches a 12-inch version of it, could be quite the strong competitor to surface pro to come to the pen and q house with the penalty for not about okay so that's it for surface news, with who put the categories of news. [22:57] So Microsoft has joined, in cross play something over sixty thousand patents left they have in the open invention network so in the past microsoft is charged, Android and Linux vendors a licensing fee, write for things like file systems like exit in the order to be over there patents were if you want to read this file format you want to talk to Samba or whatever they charge them, and so the oan the open invention that works groupme, 2000 + companies in the world that have agreed to cross lights their platform crosslight licensure patents, for use by the Olmec system and a lot of people said yeah Microsoft you really not a supporter of open sores because you're still making money off of it right so that's well you're just playing it lip service to make Samsung pay them lots of money, MMA for people to put their software on their phones and stuff get hard negotiations so Microsoft looks like they're backing off from that, set be set. [24:14] And the last piece of news for microsoft this is the so much news, but it's really a sign of the times do you want to do I take this one you want me to take this, Microsoft released their what they call. [24:32] Roxy statement so this goes out to, before they do their urine results don't get your holders and things like that so they close their books that closed back in June, and that's part of that they have the proxy statement witches information that goes out to shareholders and, what is they showed how they compensate that's interesting is there a senior executives so total compensation sachin adela was only twenty six million water park in, like he's done so much for that yeah. Yeah they're getting a bargain. It's finally morning me last year but that's only 20%. Yes Valerie only 7.46% of that so he didn't even make a million bucks in salary wow. Cash and Cynthia will talk about that but here's the interesting part so how are they, how about for a 26667 percent is commercial crowd Revenue, and Commercial Cloud subscribers right so. [25:50] Just lives but commercial clogged right that is that is that's pretty much everything. Monthly Windows 10 device activations active device active okay. [26:05] And for temperate slept percent ten percent we just have is love percent should understand but ten percent can they just place the number little yet why, so what we're looking at here is six main categories all the other performance metrics and incentives for the senior staff at Microsoft, I rose up to that man consumer post sales monetization gross margin, LinkedIn sessions and then the last one does Bill Gates like his new surface surface, that's that's is that not I don't see Xbox there text boxes consumer postell's, oh okay so less than 11% so be less than 5% it would have been pulled up LinkedIn that's interesting. It's not this is just how they compensate this is not where their revenue comes from now but if they want to be this is where they want people spending their time right, have everything so I thought that was really interesting one of our offices here offices typically under commercial Cloud revenue and subscribers where you would think they'd be out there, cloud in Cloud I mean 66 we do we really didn't need, go be alright so that's it for Microsoft news. [27:21] Alright so now we've got some mixed news in the first one's kind of Windows related but not really okay I put it separately could left in the windows music and. Chrome seventy while from really moves quick does not getting should gets lots of, lots of versions out every year and we don't hear about it we don't hear about deleting your data or anything like that but. [27:45] Chrome 70 on windows 10 will now rusts, pwa Progressive web apps whatsappw, pwa is an application written to web standards typically using HTML5 another web standards but when it runs it doesn't look like it's in a browser. [28:07] CEO of the address bar disappears, is that full screen experience and i can have features that you would expect of apple, accessing local resources working when you're not connected yes about this before but never run Windows 10 the only way to do this in Windows 10 up until now was either through Microsoft Store app, what did you say we're talking about well with PW ways and PW is running in Chrome now. [28:52] I would anybody ever write the double up and what did you say this was, just finally on the cock so let's read a bar podcast pwa, podcast Windows universal windows podcast cannot become doesn't work, it's just another nail in the coffin I mean universal windows i mean what's the whole point of so they can run windows phone and what does the top or its okay so another piece of news that i'm not sure we talked about be held back with it is that our last last piece of other kids though okay Apple has an event coming up on October 30th. [29:41] And they called it there's more in the making. [29:45] And rumor is that it. For creatives and that they'll be a new iPad Pro and umax. [29:57] Was that supposed to be, just before Halloween Just Before Halloween excellent so when we talked about that little while ago you said you're how does Microsoft catch up to Apple. But I will keep doing what you're doing and innovate right right, Innovations overrated you have to find what other people do and then do it. Microsoft innovated quite a bit like the elevation I want other organizations picked up on that same Innovation Incorporated it all the sudden it was popular yeah. So that's it for now. [30:34] Music. [30:42] Alright babe that you actually have something that you want to talk about Rants and Raves. Bit of first world problem i have with that is so are. Phone provider put fiber down my street and wants to sell. Gigabit fiber unlimited quite a reasonable price sure what's wrong with that. If you cancel out of it they want to charge you $500 if you cancel out of it the end of before 3 years. Good luck collecting do you have any other services with them. Good luck collecting taking put me out just like it i really wish phone companies would stop doing these were tactic this like you know, maybe after a year or something but to it when they give you a phone yeah sure you have would have cancellation fee but when they're just hooking up the internet to your house and the fibers already there that running it to you, no they ran the fiber down down my street that I got my lawn dug up that which is fine but now I have a better piece of. Turf at the front so I lied I should looks a bit off now but still I don't care last year did you convert to it. [31:53] $72 for gigabit yeah it is not bad at all to very good price. Okay so it's my first prom that's your first will pro all right now we have in other statement we like cover, what is Microsoft Microsoft and Amazon house Google become the next Android overlords, for whatever why would, well first off let's talk about a couple of things old back so back in the. Can this the summer in july i believe, Google was there and they were. Told Dad to pay 5 billion dollar fine from the EU now what does that call about what were the ideas. What was this what was this. Vision against about set to do multiple things the google play store the license that yeah and in what third parties have to do in order to. [32:59] To use Android successfully right so Google has to stop, modeling applications in Android phones that's one part of it. So how are people going to get those applications for number of stars. The main applications like Gmail and Google Maps and things like that or not, normally available that way only in their store or built-in with the app and then updated to the store right and so they're also preventing companies from using other search engine, and from sellick fork versions of android. [33:38] So now they've decided they're going to comply with the ruling while the appeal. But they're also going to charge Williams $40 per device. Wait so you could have the free version with their store or you can have the non free version. Set the fuck. It's the apps weeks forty dollars for phones with the charging right. So I don't know all the details yet but you'd looks to me like at $40, Hill Auto thousand-dollar phone for your bucks it's not that big a deal you can bury the, so what's included the Google mobile services and. Other pieces like that which really are at the heart of the AI base next-gen mobile phone. [34:39] Where are you in its context sensitive and all of my, 40 box are $200 phone is quite, yes so talking talking about Emerging Markets or lower-end devices, the Samsung phone that most people buy not the current one the one that's going to whatever, S5 and who knows what has it and it works just fine so why why why we talkin about Amazon and Microsoft will because in order to do these kinds of things in order to provide a store and service millions of devices around the world and provide you next generation services you really need to have. Worldwide usar footprint. [35:45] And Google's Google's number three player that space but nobody else really has the cloud shops to really provide that kind of service both Amazon and Microsoft have already built. Christoph doesn't amy's android apps or will they have the microsoft app store but it had a little platforms before, get her for our t it had it for yo windows phone etcetera etcetera, and was Ameren they've already got that networking on Android so, order it to collect twelve prisoner got the tool set sleep the built over hundred and wraps. [36:28] To put in my name so what are our names are there any are also i am size are out looks. Okay but we can take a look at that nuts for whatever reason and. Microsoft, Amazon could possibly go to load or they can go together they could go together and there's a. Got a lot of synergy there both in seattle wa what about sam fun. Seven isn't clean the fuck no true but they have a huge number devices and they would much rather not have, so maybe we'll go messing with them so maybe they partner Samsung or LG device manufacturer will come the ideas they build a platform that have and have the device manufacturers start to move to them right. Yup that's gets just a concept it's possible it's doable what you could. These sort of nude Chris Wright Microsoft could make their own version of Android that has all the raps is that called, and they could write and they could remove. I cook email they could remove chrome and they could add hood rich crum that piece of wood that sell and they could look like windows so here's the thing can i get a couple pics of three but with this maybe i won't because i think i kind of assume that the local three, HELOC to the Play Store I thinks. [37:53] If you needed to finish my new phone and not make your decision based on what I don't need any phone be here ranting on these, this podcast I don't know if you want to do fun. Alright so I just thought about it a couple weeks ago. Anything else will talk but it no i'm good are you sure. We've been going now for almost 40 minutes 38 minutes 20 seconds more than we should show up and drink whiskey all right. [38:24] Thanks come to our podcast and keep your stick on the ice. [38:31] Music. [38:37] Service Smith podcast follow the show on Twitter at surface Smith email to show at podcast that service ms.com check out the show notes and leave a comment on www. [38:52] Help others find out about the show by leaving a review on iTunes. [38:56] Music. [39:05] Come to the universal whiskey podcast i don't hear him at seven your you see this either way that better david, alright so yeah i was mr hensley not being able to hear us is about the girl yeah my wife. But i got realize that they. So this is what we like to call the after party. Be social portion of the social part of the reason for the show that's why you can go to www Universal whiskey podcast, yes so we could have booked here or to go of hundred whiskey to try before you die what you go, we have that time where to go. So what have you brought this time is it in the book, also I didn't want to risk ebooks. Well what do you think about Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban to room which is. [40:31] Hearing that poor david he write you not. [40:37] I'm a rib means red or sandwich. [40:43] Are there that's a bit too much. If you want to read a drink, it is a red color is that you're the one that's in the book. [40:59] I didn't want okay okay what number is this one. Number 46 is there an order to it, play me as long term owners. Mainly the McDonald's family sold out to the French luxury Brands marketing house Louis Vuitton, in 2004. Entices some comment yeah, like what you call those are rose a wine color. [41:45] Truth is good more complex than the aberfeldy we had last time slight yes yes definitely much stronger Taste of slight slight smokey. [41:56] 2% vs something would be obnoxious being like 20%. [42:11] And my smokey like like a good smoked meat sandwich smokey as opposed to a guy under fast smokey yes. [42:25] Marketing so color Rich warm reddish gold. Taste great balance a complexity of Rich fullness fruit notes chocolate underlined delicate sweetness taste a great. [42:54] Randomly open it I open up the page of the Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban Port finish. Currently opened it to it wow wow is that something or what that is something so it's finished in Port casks which gives it that red in that sweetness. In the Heat of the 92 which is quite nice complexity The Crepe notes. [43:22] The grape Oak balance he talks about so that's the, Jim Murray's whisky Bible so going to talk to you about my phone is getting, what's wrong with it does everything I need I'm just tired I want something and what you up new battery Capri battery battery and something worse than the phone with the better the sex so yeah that's working for me. Is a 6X at Palazzo to the Crowne Plaza. Either okay with my sm someway beats a life of, but her cameras otherwise is remarkable right, am I supposed to be amazing cuz of all the software they've added so they say we don't need 5 cameras or six cameras rare Weber okay we got one but it does the job because they added a ton of, and even if they're also they're doing interesting things like assuming that you're going to shake a little bit and, and actually taking multiple angles of the safe shot and getting multiple day like the HDR types that I might have been shaking before but now I'm quite smooth, we never said vote. [44:37] If you know what i've and it's opened they will let me vote i drinking they won't let me in the police station though they won't let you into the point fish if your truck did you vote, how they want let you vote if your so we know our mayors essentially going to be s that's not me an issue i'm not in a ward where we're someone's gonna be claimed, but there's definitely am definitely not an award where there's a real race either so Jeff Lee Pool winner award. [45:06] It is this enough guy few things he says are stupid. I want to like him but he said a lot of stupid things like what he's talking about things that are actually interesting and make sense for the greater good. [45:32] Smiths Falls and Cornwall it totally would like a GO train system guess what, Snoopy the mayor of Economics he be the mayor of Ottawa. Not the mayor of Gatineau not the, i am on not there smith's fault up near cornwall or any of these other companies talking about the how does. The people that would benefit from this enough people live in city of Ottawa. I get zero benefit from that go to Smith Falls and go to the Chocolate Factory find yes but you can't buy there. [46:06] Oh okay so I know you talked about the converted the Hershey factory the Tweed Factory, sure but the real benefit is not you going to the Chocolate Factory okay I'll look at the Oompa Loompas, so no benefit the people that was a yay let's go for this, for the most part can't vote for, cuz they don't live in the city so we'd be be like talking about hey I'm going to run for, I don't know let's just be something so I got to run for school board trustee and my whole platform is I'm going to give women in Saudi Arabia expanded civil liberties best prime minister. It doesn't matter but I still can't see on the platform of amalgamating school parts. [47:07] But guess what they don't get to choose that yet. Got interesting ideas that for the greater good make sense but if, I don't see why a train makes any sense actually, yeah I'll tell it it's like Trump voting today I'm going to make the Mexican buildable build the wall, Becky has any control over that maybe doesn't know but but anyways, no politics at Citrus local politics what kind of reach do we have on the show when I was listening to India, was driven in ottawa card that we do but anyways. So that's the that's interesting there, is a speaker laptop still running, okay so anyway so that all being so go for it so get your in brand new it'll be a better camera than you currently have. I'm so with you on your trip. [48:25] You will not need to take and if you do take care of the camera you will not take them to other cat but the moments in time where those cameras are not easily available I eat pretty much all of the time. [48:38] You will have a better phone, a better camera will it take me to other devices with me taking my five-year-old DSLR. [48:55] Five time show me that you want taken out for the wildlife were going to wildlife excursions and things like that you download them they a really the really is such a small amount of time okay sure why carry it. Are kangaroo pouched. [49:12] Alright other thing I'm taking is a GoPro Hero 7 black, for underwater but also they've got this gimbal this thing that they called the smoothest that he shot ever like it won't get me shake it is stupid or is it something they can get, lost or stolen at carrot it weighs like. [49:34] A lot you're not used to it I'm here used to it I've never seen you with it. [49:41] I'm used to it I'm pretty good with a zoo you are but you just still won't pull it out that much. That we took at night to her out in the jungles in cans in Australia. The camera would be of no, that was the time we happen to take it I guess pretty good low-light but, but I'm thinking when I go to eluru and no no no no, set out at all we did is here thinks we couldn't even see thing so you can carry the camera all night long i don't know i'm looking for sunrises and sunsets on a tripod over the blue and, things aren't beautiful pictures of that already. [50:26] My family um you're gonna get your whole family up for a sunrise so you could take a picture of the. Give me a little bit with that you dreamed of beautiful colors to study the pictures could potentially be beautiful exactly. [50:49] Know that we have a few good ones you at the office yet like like spend a thousand dollars from a canon camera that's what it's gotta fit your pocket we got them we got them for a one we've got a sony. Michael Sony camera I like that black with you is more important thing people carry around cameras that are worth like. I missed my biggest worry it doesn't get used. The kids love using it, play around with that mouth ago so the fishing by youngest son he's really have a disk phone can he isn't okay phone d just windows phone yeah oh i'm sorry that we often to windows phones have good cameras. Yes but it's not at you through the phone has, iphone se which is a camera. So the kids will use it more and it does good video is very good video actually. Yes of course it does better video that Annie can't pocket phone. [52:05] I'll see once I get the iPhone 7 Hero 7 black, we'll see if anybody sees any sales on the hero 7th let me know. [52:26] Should we rush out. [52:36] We could do that if you want that's fine so we can meet somewhere near your place yeah I feel like wings. Now go to Lexington if it's not wing night there I think it's wing night I'd like to think there's three other places of Lexington is right by one of the Corner Diner used to be Corner Bar and Grill. [53:02] Churchill's is that we used to go to watch hockey games yes we've been want to so it's right down the street right near there we'll go to Lexington or whatever you prefer. Alright I will meet you there okay goodbye surface Nation. Keep your stick on the ice in your scotch on the rocks you can finish your whiskey oh I will okay that is good we will talk to you soon. Alright bye bye bye bye.

Introduction

• Universal Windows Podcast – Episode 90
• You can enjoy us on Spotify and iHeartRadio now – great for streaming!
• We are starting up our regular cadence – look for podcasts on a weekly basis (we mean it this time)

Word of the Week

• Enjoy a sip of your favourite beverage each time either of us says "Leather".

Product Review

• Keyboard too small for David's big hands
• Almost exact same case and screen as an iPad 2
• Nice Screen
• Battery only good for about 4 hours
• Buy – No Buy – No Buy

News of the Week 

• Office 2019 Now Available for Mac and PC
•  Office 2019 vs. Office 365: What's Really Happening
•  Microsoft Now Uses AI to Help You Create Better Presentations, Spreadsheets on Office Apps
• Microsoft's Windows Virtual Desktop Delivers A Modern Desktop with Azure
•  Microsoft to bring multi-user virtualization to Windows and Office with Windows Virtual Desktop service
• New / Updated Surface Products
  • Laptop
  • Surface Pro 6
  • Headphones

• Windows 10 laptops: We've just reinvented PC with world's first leather 2-in-1, says HP
• What to expect from Windows 10 October 2018 Update
• Windows 10 October 2018 Update Deleting Files?
• Leather Covers for Surface Book from ToastMade

Rant and Rave

• David complains about Microsoft inviting thousands, if not millions, to become Windows Insider MVPs

Outro

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Whisky of the Week

• Aberfeldy 12 Year Old
  Episode 090 - The Lost Episode Windows Microsoft MVP Insider Surface Phone   Transcript [0:00] Hello I'm Cortana welcome to the universal windows podcast the show about everything Windows such a surface Xbox phone and the windows Insider program here are your host the surface Smith. I'm David Smith and I'm calling Smith and we are the surface, is episode one david ninety sh ninety if why's that wall two weeks ago we recorded episode ninety but we had. A problem that didn't need to meet my lower body a standard right and then the even episode ninety was delayed for multiple reasons feel dr there was a tornado that knocked out power heals your means, too long didn't read okay this is so that there was a tornado. [0:47] Delayed a whole bunch of things we lost power in our city I still don't have heat in my office, HVAC unit got blown off the building also two trees down nobody died here but they're six tornadoes a touchdown lot of Destruction and a lot of it was around $0.02 around my office and there was places in the city without power for up to 5 days i just prayed that could of solomon trail goes through a district substation right, but, tomato sauce with the week of ignite we're supposed and we were supposed to do dailies from ignite we have no power we were dealing with other issues, so we didn't do our foreign correspondents Rafael and the boys formula coffee clutch. We weren't able to connect with them so we didn't covered nightfall not there's a get well tomatoes fault, the tornado then we did actually record an episode that fell apart it was a awesome recorded it that way from eight with with tactical issues and then call and when had a death in the family that you look that so, and how long since your last episode. [2:09] I'm about 4 weeks about 4 weeks August 22nd August 22nd okay and the last time we recorded this we actually had Whirlwind as our word of the week but hey guys what about the word of the week, but what about this week's worth of the week I should be different I thought it was tornado was her word of the week tornado Whirlwind I can't remember, about leather leather is fine corinthian leather in corinthian leather yeah another test get there all, sure alright that don't touch the leather. Okay okay I'm not sure how we're going to work that in so for those of you that are new to the show where the week is a drinking game if you hear us say the word of the week you get to take a drink of your favorite beverage I'm actually Thursday if I have a sip right now. [2:57] So leather all right now. Where do you want to start David do you want to go right into a product with you our last episode I talked about the surface go that I tried in New York City, come, I see you've got something that you have a service call if you have a Surface tablet that had a crack in the screen that I happen to buy the extended warranty on and, they don't just fix it they just give you the money back or so I had, money burning a hole in my pocket so I picked up one so which model to get. Eight one twenty eight i think it would be silly to buy the four k for sure the forty-eight would run while but eventually sure is that the one with the sst years at the one with the. The best hard drive healthy ssd1 called UCM EMC, communication not buying these things for performance correctly so you didn't get the Costco on the cost going to make it out quite nicely, I only have 4 gigs of memory 128 storage I'm not sure what type of storage so that's it ideal combination but my reef my rebate of $330 wasn't Acosta how much of the total amount. [4:18] It's about $800 - 300 Canadian Canadian dollars. What's. Had its ups okay to tell us about what he thinks first impressions on but we didn't do it you did do it on boxing anything but what you numbers up so it is the it's the exact same for form factor as my apple. IPad 2 which is probably for 5 years old exact same Corners almost the exact same screen size the exact same thickness which is. [4:57] So you a little bit odd does it looks more like an apple from up front so you think that they bought a bunch of refurb to iPads and slammed slammed surface bits in them yeah, yeah it's a conspiracy, really the only thing I can see, they should have put a bit of extra weight in that and add the battery last a bit longer. Set the fuck up, okay not mistaken what was that Neva Neva scan Beacon, caca the eighties so any i can get use to the keyboard, yeah you know for when it does it slot better than any touch typing on screen would be so i don't think that's really a challenge with the keyboard for say that microsoft dismayed okay i think it's just a problem with the size of a ten inch form factor, so really there's no point it's. [6:14] Not a must-have for sure cake so how much will you say the battery is not fantastic how much you getting out of it like four hours really, real well that's disappointing very disappointing. [6:30] God wanted to look it up like that whole day out of my $69 Canadian $69 Kindle Fire HD. [6:41] I can get more than that have an iPad I can have more than that out of my circle you definitely get more of an iPad Surface connector so you know when you're at your desk, you can get your external monitors bigger keyboard now that really bad right here and I'm like the new Surface spices for Microsoft it as a USBC will charge it will well, what was so I charged it with my regular cell phone adapter, and it charged so I think the fact that I charged it all was good okay but I have more powerful you, PC device adapters light comes with the laptop and the docking station for Adele and those will go. Those will charge quickly I'm sure but I was surprised like this with the phone adapter it was actually charging. To be hand if you're stuck somewhere as earned don't have lives in glass for the new discharging. I just turned it on and left okay I wouldn't be surprised it would just break even fill this wouldn't even make up across Continental flight, battery wise. Alright so that's very very disappointed, when does a pass or fail. It depends on the surface pen to surface, bail bondsman someday, buy one as soon as I get my TSA check but just very disappointing. [8:10] It is quite expensive to so really if it was around $500 with a keyboard instead of 800 with keyboard. [8:19] I think that would bust my that i think what i'd rather do is buy a one of the news surface laptop i think three pilling from a whole ji at for on like three hundred dollars for yeah at four and on on on on at the top and. If the i seven or is that they don't i nine yet so now okay. Alright so that's it for that show we move on, new story of the week now you didn't mention what your, keep or case is made out of hearts wanna find corinthian leather is or so ago can them thirsty here. [9:00] Gonna suck so in that big long in from while we were away there will i lose. The conference the us there was Microsoft ignite Microsoft ignite for the first time in quite a number of years no surface Miss were there, so what did I say about that. All that introduce the new version of office that's basically a subset of officer sixty five four on perm customers when from cousin has a cute, what else did you go to breakfast so off the oven office twenty nineteen is now available for mac and pc. [9:38] Those of you that are not falling biscuits confusing the office three sets on a new one that you wanna have right write his office three sixty-five just been out for a few years and depending on what skew of officer sixty five you have the disk anyone for example you do not get an office pay you'll get any office off or, UCB online office off we don't get a local install office software so you have to go to the E3 or Business Essentials or business by mistake. It's like four bucks so you don't have to have it but my mistake would not be one of them yes right PC, example use water email so depending on which version of office to sixty five you buy you also get five per user five installs of microsoft office is close, Pro Plus father's claim Office 365 I believe in. [10:33] It's part of your license as long as you're paying your light your monthly license fee you have usage rights but what if you stop paying. Have you straight anymore that this is the perpetual license so for instance if you bought office, 2007 back in 2007 or 2008 or whenever you whenever you want it you could still run it that Microsoft support anymore it'll give you updates or anybody but you own it you can run it forever. Legally run it forever however office365 you stop paying your monthly you can't legally run anymore. [11:09] Talk a little bit about the differences so that's the licensing side of it right so office twenty nineteen is based on the feature set more or less that we saw in late spring early summer, in Office 365 Office 365 gets updated on a, randomly, hopefully not random well someone's got a plan but lisa mc maybe collectively sure so, features are the features come out regularly and it's always upgrading and it's really focused on integrating with the rest of the office to sixty five sweet, which is that online experience and that cloud experience not to say that office 2019 does, lie to connect a cloud services but. What, but Office 365 will keep getting more and more cloud looks to other services like yeah I after she learning and it whatever new functionality comes out in Office 365. [12:11] So that's one big piece of news and and what what's the next Feast well that's good news alright so, ex off now uses a i'll help you create a better presentation spreadsheets and things like that in the office apt to look at what you're trying to do it suggest a better way to present it. It's always been suggestions but now looks like yeah looks like you're trying to write a letter but a lot more though it's looking at the. Practices for presentations and spreadsheets and charts and things like that so be fun to try that out. I have a friend who's going to company that's focused on doing just that for businesses to make your presentations better so really like to have to take that I'd like to see what his thoughts are on it, so we can talk then we talk a lot the last episode yes the last lost. [13:17] I am, this allows you to have your virtual desktop and let Asher as opposed to having to setup terminal terminal servers are those her on hold on hold on, talk about sessions vs instances okay. Olden days or what people when using terminal server or what we on when i call have a session based computing you have a single wes, air by many users right right so they can all connect to it can like that, Mainframe concept and to be honest the first instance of this on Windows electrical twin frame and it was a modified kernel buys Citrix. [14:12] Yes and I thought it was a very clever. Back into the 80s that did this stuff on PCS to. A tarp for Dawson for a long time, we were talking about virtual desktops were talking about what, colloquially people call vdi VMware coined the term vdi virtual desktop infrastructure what it is maybe I were talking about multiple. [14:47] Dances so there be multiple virtual machines and i each person can x to one persistent or not, stop spread today appear and disappear maybe they're just there for you at the next. Get well Windows 7 or Windows 10 OS 8.1 if you really must each user gets their own or, whatever else you want to call this other words for that. That one machine with multiple users and that's a great Segway into our next item that will talk about but why is this important for the first time now. Windows 10 is available as a paid service directly from Microsoft and Azure and you can have, stop there so sorry technology change you could have always run, to bring your license and your license to allow you to do that night just by making us buy it and turn it off and not using it all sorts of things like that so. [15:57] Basically promoted desktops in someone else's Data Center, tornado outage here people are using that they can accept connect to edgerton woden. [16:08] Okay now the next one is Microsoft brings multi-user virtualization to, windows and office instances where each user gets thrown instance of now in Windows 10. You can use Windows 10 essentially as what we used to call a terminal server to have multiple users connect to Italy travel each have a session Windows 10 not Windows Server that's correct now why is that important David. Because Windows 10 Windows Server are very similar to each other. But not the same exactly so in the olden days, last month if you wanted to do session-based Computing yeah you would have to do it on a Windows server and it had it had present it has session Services right and remote desktop services that you would turn on and you would uninstall your software you have to jump through hoops to install off we're not big Hoops but you install software, and let people connect to it up Here's the catch alright. [17:14] When developers build applications for Windows and user Windows Windows 10 or Windows 7 that's a good example of say, Adobe Photoshop the developers built that they tested it on Windows 7 latest on Windows 8 the test on Windows 10 they got it logo certified, with all the criteria and then some sysadmin somewhere takes that app, add fries to shoehorn it on to Windows Server which is very similar but not the same, and it may or may not work and then you have to go through all sorts of remediation and things like that, application for certified to work with the remote desktop services but others were not so is very limiting. And you get sometimes really funky heirs. [18:01] And then gift because the cold is writ for windows ten and you try to run on windows server and may or may not work. [18:11] But my sister will definitely so now that's that's gone but secondly you don't have to worry about the cost Associated Windows server. [18:23] And and although there would be a conditional class here for extra license, but of course not. The whole server licensing right, how you could run a server on a desktop but if we all did. And a lot of small businesses are afraid of servers, a server that's, yeah that happened in your office before we're kilobit drive you places cuz people hitting afraid of service for so log but. [18:56] They don't work anymore exactly yes so that's the news about Windows 10 and. Multi-user virtualization as well as virtual desktop to similar related but different announcements. Okay alright. [19:19] Just after it night october second at with the west microsoft heads three three new i just for new. 1 2 3 updated products. So the first one they update it was the surface laptop and I'm very excited by that it has everything you'd want except USBC Port that's right. Is that believe there is one of LT1 block yes everything everything's available black. How's the way they will have a surface pro and black as well they have a lot, so yesterday the new laptop and its exact same time the Old it's just. No thinner nothing Cur and more powerful 1.8 times as powerful and you know the old one. Obviously it's not a power user computer in either case you probably want to go for Surface Book 15 if you need a lot of power but this would way way less Island it blows, no bother have really been any MacBooks in a while that's a little bar on the keyboard that changes now it's got touch, it's a touch screen David doesn't have a little touch banking. [20:44] Okay that doesn't have a high price of the macbooks yeah i got a high price not the summer has size similar person it then they brought a surface pro sex again has the lack of usb c, so interesting name. Because if it wasn't the five going to call it the five because it was really confusing cuz they're originally when they first watch that people may not remember but before the Surface Pro 3 there were two others. Dress made of leather leather. [21:24] Leather Burns front of them shirt, help just like wouldn't when television first came out nobody called it black and white television, and actually when colors I look good in whittwood color television came out what happened was, they started calling at color television to differentiate it from normal television which wasn't color right then sometime into the evolution of color television that became the new normal nice are referring to black and white television where that was the famous picture for manual transmission yes. But, I bought a couple but anyway then we're using it here for our soundboard aren't we so high five as we can hear it still works great but then came the Surface Pro 2 Surface Pro 3 which is finally I hit Surface Pro 4 also hit and then they went back to school to Surface Pro, if a candidate that makes the right of the original one didn't exist but as you can here it does exist pass yet so i'm gonna call that when the five to tell me about the six, again they have increase the power. Exact same case so you know this nice little folding not the back that you know the same keyboard 7 change any of that but it's just it's just faster and black races green and black. [22:53] But not small, it really small vessel life if they just increase the the quality of bezel that the screen but i mean it was harassment plus whatever if you know you have a nice mac avid nice, surface for whatever even a surface 3 when they're fantastic screens the app so what they're better. But back to the USBC the reason I don't I just like it it's cuz it's everything is just be coming in that USBC and it's it's just it's not that you need it in your bag all the time, it's just that they they could have put it in there but I guess they wanted to wait until. [23:29] Thunder bolts and everything and have all the standards out and no fuss no muss smell, with very conservative play which is Xbox better than what they did when the original Surface Book came out and it didn't really work too well right well there's been rumors that the, the EU might Force Apple to standardize on USBC and get away from their lightning connector on their phones on their phones. Which better than a while ago from you I think yeah. Okay sure it's a lot more so like I find the USB that was granted there more cheap vendors making USB C cables but you can still squeeze it and bend it right you can't leave Den. Lightning press the the shield around the USB C connector alright so what's next, what's next hell we didn't talk so we talked about those headphones headphones so I don't know why they made the headphones but they look really nice. [24:40] My kids want them but you know what the world headphones right 350 Us gift card so, so I told you the story about my son and his little adventure to the, Texas parolee satisfy the gift cards and stuff like that so I might buy some I don't know if that's only set to headphones lying around, my house at three set the good headphones hear about three or four sets a good headphones at home on opening the set the can of there's another. [25:12] Tell me about use it towards surface Co Staples surface got okay let's move on to. HP the says that, a leather case on the outside live there let. Find currently that is the case i just like to retire don't know it's it's on the outside like elka terror what of the stove is okay inside and, of course it's done to the computer it's made it way more efficient well hopefully that works, they get to him that i was dry clean only cuz leather that's true that's so i don't think we'll wipe which one of you this is is some. Happier in this computer is like 18 hours of battery life is just huge the thing that makes sense is if you're going to carry around a folio of some sort with it in it. [26:15] That it would kind of be the same instead of you would just carry the system without a case Okay so David. I want you skip the next item okay and come back to it's okay I took care of you on the 2nd next one. So what to expect in from the Windows 10 October 2018 update or what we're affectionately calling 1809 the thing here is when we wrote that article, it was a what to expect and then said we were 12, but something's happened since then David it's there's a new feature in Windows 10 delete your files saved increases the space, leaving for spite building fossil currently it happens fairly small situation did you know you can re direct your desktop gas to one drive yes i do that. Oh well I don't and apparently those are the people that might have been. [27:12] I got in there yeah. Well it's really hard for Microsoft recorded all these different vendors of different products and make sure that things work, but wait no no one derives from Microsoft Windows from Microsoft Microsoft I thought it was from Apple, don't know okay and then they got these people called insiders they're supposed to test all these things but I think they're getting paid too much cuz obviously they're not doing a good job at tested this stuff, so there's a couple things that are bit frustrating when is that they released it, to the slow ring in the fast ring like a week before pushing it out to everybody else they really didn't leave it a lot of time and there have been allegations that they have deleted some post from The Insider Hub or people that said this is the problem. [28:04] Right. Not Microsoft has no no no no variety variety disappeared, were they perhaps running the Hub on 1809 at desktop redirected, under what they go yes that must be what have, they're probably running in on a nice day, but, but the, it is it's very important to make himself feel good because you were there to help make things better have some people been reporting this and, you have the possibility that would be nasty all i have a great way to make the sex feel better house invite everyone to be an mvp ch. [29:13] Okay look up or who remember goodly this from when you and later i cannot stand okay. I know why you wanna skip ahead of the. Welcome to spread it out okay okay okay so we can cover two things they are going to move this to the end I'm missing so it's how it's made. So remember that we had a toast i'd toast made cover of with rob my surface book at river rock you or a toast a toast toast they have a leather one now okay okay so glue on case for your Surface Book, or yours but then what about on mysickers. [30:02] Turn on all you've what's the cuz i given why would i want another one i love the magnesium acted point, and wipe out and buy a will there's an a black surface laptop Surface Book yet but they will be and then why put it yeah what people are putting things they outside right why put stickers on your computer went when ice, if you only had a block magnesium, like this one, yes. By a lot you mean once in a blue moon you see one about more so than I did before they look like primer yes they do, and. Last piece of news so we talked about ignite of previous episode that we did get out the door we talked about the Apple announcements we talked about the Microsoft Hardware announcement, oh my goodness we should have led with that, guess not nothing to say okay, okay so is that it for a news that is. [31:18] Music. [31:26] Alright so that David you said you had something you want to talk about Rants and Raves Microsoft invited me to become Windows Insider MVP, good for you congratulations thank you thank you cut i am already windows insider mvp of cases problem. It's kind of seems like they've invited thousands and thousands baby hundreds of thousands I didn't get invite you didn't get an invite so there is at least a level of expectation but it's like. Kathy put in a query that says not existing like it what sort of criteria did they put in for that so. I am running Insider build immediate they did not immediately respond to my request for information, well as other people blogged about it and think like they is people are one explain about it but it just seems to me if it be nice if they invite insiders but the should put some care into the inviting. Okay so don't want to have a cake party invite too many people then there will be no point to it. [32:30] Okay that's my rent that's your aunt yes okay once the course then you can say well what who wants to be a member of a club that, heard any rumors from Microsoft will not from Microsoft but have heard one from Samsung and what would that be well Samsung says it's working on a foldable phone that we have tablets you can put your pocket sound familiar, maybe sides was the microsoft product andromeda and well damn it is the opera incident, will fit in your pocket again folded and you got a more screen real estate imagine someone makes foldable screens. People have a matching that's for quite a while if make full checked so. [33:25] Certainly be a lot of really cool concept of that but the only thing we've seen similar to that is i think alen oval made, computer that had for the keyboard it was basically a touch screen. And that really went nowhere so it's kind of a cool concept but. What will we see what that will really work I think we're looking for a whole new Computing Paradigm right now but I'm still not excited by the new phone Hardware out there, I want to get a new phone, I think I was not one out there that turns my crank. I mean really when you're looking for a phone that something that last a fair bit of time as is Handy. And then it is important and then everything else is just kind of like me at what point did the iphone and the and the. [34:17] The Galaxy start being awesome cameras that sticks on the iPhone, E46 with you know Microsoft Microsoft but everybody has unless you buy really cheap phone you have an amazing camera now you're going away or you could take it out the camera that you could just you could just take a phone when I get to get the S alignment take a GoPro, but you could not you can easily just a lot anyways so get fantastic diving so your phone's waterproof. No it's not it's a success on 7th and I can't take it down at the end. [34:56] But anyways that's like an OtterBox for it if I want to try but at some point so I'm going away from there if we can. Last year we went away I went to Alaska and I visited with Joel Jazz who was one of the hosts of the date of the pain the pain also known as, now I'm going to Australia where his co-host the Dane whereabouts I believe is Melbourne but it's not I'm going to leave his one of those two cities so maybe, I'll try to hook up with him now that they're podcast is gone quiet for a while back for you for me alright for them it interesting that they spam the pacific australia to alaska my can't take it much further within that know know if you can do a podcast with those sort latencies hear your good health okay alright. Anything else you want to talk about what is Microsoft Microsoft what. [36:06] This is for my sweet shows o know what of microsoft we kill the password, with its pathetic a rap or anything off I have not used passwords in quite some time for all any of my personal devices, heading to my work devices I use hello, I push token. [36:28] Go i'd be happy for a password manager i use a pass for batteries last pass right by rely on that heavily. But I don't use passwords that often except some my client systems so maybe passwords are on our way out that would be nice. But useful. Okay that was pretty lame what do you think all right so everything else I don't think so. Show's over showed over. My Follow the show on Twitter at surface Smith email the show at podcast. [37:19] Check out the show notes and leave a comment on WWE. [37:26] Help others find out about the show by leaving a review on iTunes. [37:30] Music. [37:39] Is it time for whiskey yet well the best part of the show it's always time for whiskey Cortana, alright so we started a new thing for whiskey the week segment or the universal whiskey podcast for the after-party whatever you want to call it. We're what's the name of that book they would we ready it's 101 whiskeys to dry before you die. Alright no pressure here no pressure. The first Whiskey In the book is what aberfeldy 21. Yeah that's the aberfeldy mayall i was looking at it in the mirror. Of you shaving with that bitch or i'll email know this is a gift actually but that is a gift for my birthday from my friend, and i dont know who is very generous over to give me this so we should drink it to what they say about never fell the well. [38:43] So I read this read this tonight so you shouldn't have messed up those numbers. Leonardo da Vinci. Brought the arabic number see your because the roman numerals work way too complicated they were and so with the simple system if you weren't able to figure. The whiskey were not tasting is is. It's by aberfeldy obviously the same one built by bloodpop however I'm color golden Amber what's your check, nose cream honey nose dried fruit will tell us about The Distillery tell us what they say. It's disturbing re hat ever feel like two hours model was built in, 96 to 98 by the Restless. Rest innovative and order from there all to do or brothers homos know that obama at all. I have lost my sense of smell. [39:58] I would say it's um for the sweet terminally. [40:10] Okay honey dark honey. Sweet caramel vanilla will the apple don't fall no no smoke no salt and small. [40:22] No iodine oh oh here we go igot to mention of it here. It may be easier to find the twelve year old version that's good. [40:34] This is a lot better and well worth the additional money exchange these really rounds out and deepens this with you that might be why i'm a little bit better. Different and round and round it up that you are calling cuz I've been age just a little bit longer to just a little bit longer okay so let's see if my little trick of any other water LOL. [41:03] Does make it sweeter a little bit more complex doesn't help with the nose now. [41:12] Son's hockey coach aston color day does your nose run your feet smell and your probably built upside down. [41:23] Nice I like this I like this but I wouldn't throw it out, it's decent I prefer something just a little more complex because we've been trying different things like bourbons and rice and stuff like that which do have a much stronger taste than this that we have. Filter pellets for a good solid. Oscar is with like a glenn live it plan that kind of style and standard highland okay. Find some plans to probably takes very similar for this and get well be happy with that jerk. But because of the single malt and expecting a little more character than this. [42:14] Santa hats not terrible so David. Describe to me what your favorite artist taste like something burnt. I just tasted a bit of burnt almonds with that know we were getting on and then that's why I said the word on this but a little burnt flavor that it was weird just so why don't you describe to me. What you're you're perfect with you taste, well I first of all you would get to the duty free store, have a dollar store dollar store in the gallon size and it would be $3 Canadian. When we when get gallons leaders okay we're size are. I definitely like a little bit sweeter than that so I I I think it's because of some of the Bourbons with your born baby. [43:07] Bizarro Bizarro you should put that in your business cards made with less subtle. I want a bit more Aroma I like the vanilla as I like the toffee I feel like a coffee or even or Burke caramel 15 to go shopping this. Needs to be a little rougher almost. Which is half the year here so so you don't like go to McAllen I left Macallan Sienna only as my year round, and I. [44:03] Like the dollar for dog can totally buy go to for that and then for winter whiskey and like a good let alone. [44:12] Which is a little bit smoke your little bit Peter a little bit salty air but not immensely so. Right now the mrs or to much i put them my covering that in the so once in a while thing, with a good cigar sure sure with you about actually today about whiskey that's what it's date one of these and now i'm up is dave smith on my caller id and he also it with my phone so. [44:43] I'm up on my phone and its. [44:50] 314 number is David Smith, thank with about whiskey yeah yeah v you have a clear think that we should call of dow acts without that was about a week tasting i bought at a at a charity auction last year nigga nine organize do of the cottages whiskey weekend at that the scheduling gods are just going to text you on that one they are they are if you give up the weekend idea and make it into the wednesday. Could be at a restaurant or something or. Someone's house just because people can stay over we can play cards late if someone's house is tough to have to fix guys stay over yes that's true. Wait until and if we have to have read it read the hotel people are going one in. [45:53] That's just double surprise, right right that's what that's easy to do at someone's house but not easy to do at a hotel at a hotel. [46:10] But i don't think that fixes the scheduling problems doing well not it does not to such push it off into the future was kaisha my xl make it and ice fishing weekend. S are skiing weekend we're screen lights up but then he won't come that far have you know aunts was a do. Besides drink whiskey like sorry that was white why would you need to do anything besides whiskey right exactly so. What are the state of its he fights with the foil wrapper worth over or or or or really, three yeah he is November 10th that you can party that weekend please can we just whatever you was getting at your party. Okay we got that that's possible the whiskey in sushi. [47:06] Okay could do that yeah yeah okay, possibility for sure when we do it before. Got to get some details on how long his tasting thing goes and whether you like sushi couple hours. We could do it in the afternoon and then make sushi with sharp knives okay but zombie bugs coming out of people's mouths. Yeah that's possible. [47:36] Will have to Institute a uber policy. Thought I'd like to do this up if if we're not in the cottage then November 10th is not a big deal we could do it at the sushi making party. [47:52] Yes but if we're doing it at your place and do it anytime. Write the bus to see me your entry in quick right but will you do to my house right, but again the whole thing is in people have to go home. We just instituted Uber coffee that's it I have to take a note. Or not drink and drive. That is true is not a whisky we can it is a whiskey tasting and they. Make eating and if yes how is playing sure so that none of the normal for all of the that goes along with the whiskey weekend is involved. No backwash well let's not talk about that. We're consumption of many things so that the party when of the situation parties at my old house years ago i had gone to an auction like this and i had bought a cake balls i know i was there, so this is a similar thing I paid for the cake bow so you would, I'd likely pay for the $750, but what do the merriest well i could do a personal tasty. All good i'll get a sale out yourself the fuck are you. [49:20] Alright alright so we need to solve this stuff but let's work on it after we go for a bike ride so anything else to talk about we're going to try again next week. [49:33] Yeah and then you're going to wait at the end of November December 8th and leaving. [49:47] What we have a hundred we're counting down to a hundred okay well we got at I'm at to be at the ignite throttle once app that is like the 10th or so I have. Junior but the problem with that is i have a conference the week after in boston so site. Logistical thing but Minor Details for those of you that are that listens wait till the end we're now pushing the what we're pushing 50 minutes. [50:18] I thought you stayed on all the way to the end I'm going to be going to Australia I'm going to be in Sydney I'm going to be in cans, Atlantic City a sound like an ass cans and then I'm going to be at a live-aboard for 3 Days Great Barrier Reef and then I'm going to be in, set. Anyways you can look up port douglas is is no greater rifts well on a beach there and then i'm gonna be in el are o and a staying at the la roux which in the old days we called heirs rocks, having Christmas there then going to Melbourne I'm saying that correctly for a few days before heading home, so how long you gone for 3 weeks wow well whirlwind. Maybe i'll get some kangaroo leather coat drink strap thing to a. [51:21] So if anybody wants to hook up with a surface Smith let me know I'll bring stickers. Sticker you up with surface the stickers port arthur scoble of tasmania for an appointment i cut the chicken fifths yeah you're right you're up in the upper round pants is still so replace i wanna go they can't do all wants but next time. Okay and when I get back we'll be party W yes. And when I get back I'll be looking for I remember going to Hawaii for Christmas for you to confuse ago and then went right to Mont-Tremblant was -45 go skiing we went from + 42 - 45. Chocolate outsider plus minus forty five sk yeah my son got frost bite. You should have stayed in probably doing that as well so I think that's it. What was he going to be all that bad you know why mine's gone mine's going to yeah, Lexmark it's it's not unpleasant it is nothing I can Rave about but there's nothing wrong nothing wrong with it I think we should, and call the show everybody keep your stick on the ice near scotch on the rocks take care have a great day. [52:50] Cooking my microphone.

Introduction

• Universal Windows Podcast – Episode 89
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• With special guest Saptashwa Bandyopadhyay

Word of the Week

• Enjoy a sip of your favourite beverage each time either of us says "Watch".

News of the Week 

• Apple iPhone XS event

• The iPhone XR starts at $749 (64GB), pre-orders start Oct. 19, shipping Oct. 26
• iPhone XS starts at $999 (64GB), pre-orders start Sept. 14, shipping Sept. 21
• iPhone XS Max starts at $1,099 (64GB), pre-orders start Sept. 14, shipping Sept. 21

• Microsoft Product Launch Oct 2nd
  • Colin - No ARM – LTE
  • Sap – ARM
  • David - Updated Surface Laptop and Updated Surface Studio

•  Microsoft officially christens 'Redstone 5' as the Windows 10 October 2018 Update

• Windows 10 laptop with 25-hour battery life?

• Microsoft announces Oct. 2 event for Surface devices and more

• Windows 10 Enterprise customers will now get Linux-like support

• Microsoft updates 'Your Phone' for Android with SMS support 

Rant and Rave

• Colin complains that the Microsoft store in Syracuse kicked is 14 million kids

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Whiskey of the Week

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  Episode 089 - Just Watch Me Windows Microsoft MVP Insider Surface Phone

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  David and Colin Do Stuff

  Edit TranscriptStop Play-on-click   Export...? Transcript [0:07] Hello I'm Cortana welcome to the universal windows podcast the show about everything Windows such a surface Xbox phone and the windows Insider program here are your host the surface Smith. [0:22] I'm calling Smith I've Dave Smith and we have a special guest with us today David shot. Sap watch why don't we let him introduce himself. Hi guys this is Chef Joshua I am from India and I guess I'm a special guest on the show this is episode 89 for those of you that have been keeping track we haven't had an episode since sometime in July so today is September 17th that were recording the show probably be coming out by two or three days but we've had lots going on while we've been away before we before we get, too much further into it we should probably do some housekeeping guys what about the word of the week, why do we let our special guests choose a word of the week. [1:15] Fuck fuck fuck shit, to watch we got it right so we got a little bit at, housekeeping to talk about that I've been doing some traveling David for doing some traveling we will talk more about that the end of the show but since you mentioned watch, I'm guessing you might not want to talk a little bit about some of the gadgets that were announced during the Apple event last week. So happen owns the venue iphones and apple watch okay the water yeah will will do his will get into what we go right into the news and let you take that as the first segment I will get with that so I'm going to do the news intro new story of the week alright so let's take that first news item the Apple iPhone event. [2:23] So Apple announce the iPhone, 10s Russians all the people in The Colony Texas is I collected everything from Apple, yeah and when you combine it with Max it becomes excess Max which is a terrible terrible, let's get on with it was terrible names for everyone else will fail so lucky. So one of the major announcements on the 7th was the Apple Watch series for which of the Greenlight removed from the site for the celebration which is an improvement, as far as looks so concerned but the thing is they introduce ECG and their watches. Which is electrocardiogram which made me actually consider switching 2 hours just to get the watch which I have never thought about before why do you want to ECG all the time. [3:27] Elektel on further thought I don't want to listen to all the time but let's see I was in my thirties or my forties and I was thinking about my health and. We want we want to ignore our health, I guess you can do that but I have heard a lot of people out of stories about the Apple watch cashing Hartley to diseases early on, for people who might have not had an idea about the diseases because otherwise perfectly healthy, so I think it's a great achievement for apple and for the health industry overall, why do they reset technologically yet it's hard to say but I can just imagine younger people going here mom your dad buy this watch, api of this is because it i'm worried about you now mom and dad you know maybe in their seventies or eighties will remember to charge it but you know yeah apple still sell a lot of them. Okay that was my first thought actually like. My mom and dad is still a little older it's probably that I probably buy them by this for them. [4:46] I don't think so but the price will no support calls. Right by the time you're old enough that it'll matter they'll have like a 30-day battery life or something like that, what this really means apple is going beyond the communications and gadgets are really getting into the health devices field. Yeah I guess they haven't getting into Health devices filled with the CDC when they really got into the groove for smart watches and left all the other SmartWatches in the dust too so to speak because, I don't see any other compelling Smartwatch other than Apple watch Android SmartWatches are fine but, that just spoke your phone notifications I guess you guys use any smart watches. I think it looks like a nice watch which the Apple doesn't it I have a fight ionic you're right it doesn't do much. [5:49] Notifications I don't think any of the watch-like does much, things and so I'm not people really don't use a Fitbit ionic has a near field communication pay system so like Apple pay, the one thing i like about it that no other smart watch really comes close is the battery life but also it water proof and but with that regularly. [6:18] Yeah so if I was going forward or probably go for a Fitbit or something similar but if you talk about fitbit's garments for people who are. Into the health seen before Apple watch camera. One is when i people that that are doing things they don't have a heart attack the other for people that are planning to have a heart attack you and fear of market segmentation. Okay so, well here's the thing if apples really getting to the health devices it's okay it's in a bigger way the one thing that we're seeing really changing Healthcare, from a technology perspective is Big Data machine learning and AI, in the build things like crisper in the human genome project and things like that take a lot of computing power and if you start Apple starts getting Telemetry from millions of people that are wearing this who knows what they might be able to discover problem is, they don't have cloud service they don't have the backend compute to really make good use of this so this leads me to believe their partner up, only relief for options for them to partner with as far as i'm concerned one would be amazon because cloud provider in the world. [7:38] I don't know what kind of relationship Apple has it Amazon but Amazon really is not a devices company more you know they've got the Kindle, they try to phone it didn't work they tried to go the Kindle HD Fire I've got one of them but it's really not a big deal just more just Amazon consumption device, it'll come back to Amazon if I should have left them for last let's talk about Google Google I don't think apple is going to partner with Google it but it had screwed Microsoft. So who's the fourth one at IBM Facebook Facebook Facebook. Google. Ok Google and apple are going to get together on devices cuz they compete too many front potentially Microsoft because of you take a look at where Microsoft and Apple play now not a lot of overlap anymore Microsoft out of the phone business. [8:36] The switch the devices will the surface devices where they Clash a bit, us soliders and the whole ecosystem right but interesting enough so what we haven't really talked too much about anything else that was at the apple event they didn't mention any max was gonna take, are we updated on their new laptops now next month or something where they announce a lot of laptops and will update the air parenting right so, Microsoft an option I think Amazon is probably the best option very little overlap and option for was building the wrong. Which I don't think they're going to do no, owner domestic considering how the phone service Works which doesn't sync their data. And you have to lick the tag the photos again in each of the devices. To ask you to send that heater back and forth and iCloud still doesn't work perfectly iMessage, and the cloud still doesn't work so I don't think building the one is, and Azure and they're probably running their own fabric between the two so that's that'll be interesting to see where Apple goes with that. [9:53] Let's talk about some of the other devices that the word ounce there were three new iPhones. Yes the iPhone tennis tennis Max and the 10 are start with which one do you want to own. Yeah I like super Retina display that they introduced with the tennis has a low DPI than 950 and 950xl from like 3 years back. [10:30] 2 It's fine but i don't really want one such a big device for today i think it was a five point eight and six point five in screens to let's go through the but that start the bottom man the iphone acts are, 64 gig starts at 7 or $49 us what's specs. [10:51] I don't know but don't just sit there look pretty that's my job. [10:57] Got that what what are the specs on that one I think it has a eatable bionic it has all of the. Bells and whistles of the expensive to iPhones but it doesn't have the camera, Lakers has only they tell you it doesn't have a telephoto camera it has it doesn't have 3D touch, and i think that's it actually and it doesn't have the ski lift you banding it has alley me telling you i'm. [11:29] Can you on the side yeah thats not really replacement for the current iphone ten it replacement for the iphone each plus, although they still sell that right and I think the bionic is supposed to be much more efficient and they've got low power cores as well so in theory get up to 50% more battery life. But I think like because event larger on the screen this time it's like only 90 minutes more than the H+ also that's a very good battery time like if you're getting 90 minutes more than, start at 999 for 64 gigs by the way if you want to go up to. 128 year $250 into 56 and 750, probably how you doing things that have the key I think they have the 64th and the 256th and the 512, okay so the excess so tell me between the XR in the excess. [12:37] Only if i had to choose one i'd probably choose the ten are because the you ten s has excessive based on that okay but what do you get for those extra. You get a telephoto camera by the way that NR can do the book and the portrait effects without the telephoto camera so that's important fact that you're looking to just do the telephoto, just getting the tennis portrait mode with software, wanted display rather than and see okay. Slique cannabis, real videos and pictures. Look for to $50 you're not really getting much okay. Go ahead Tennessee on $400 more than the excess, and you're just getting slightly bigger battery and a slightly bigger screen that's it I will say this is hard to say, it is Edison 1500 us-45 12 gig not that anybody would buy a 512k phone but, really why music recordings all sorts of things always running out of space. [14:06] I believe I have 512 phone as well if it was available for models that I want. Yeah that's interesting I don't use that much storage on my phone then there's a thing called streaming guys you should try it, yeah but doesn't have good Netflix owns all over the place and, I like to have lots of pull apart Castle to Ally cat usually have 3 to 4 gigs of work podcast on my phone downloaded all the time welcome that argue against that through quickly like I like my music with me up at the lake and stream that. Things like that okay so that's. Anything else want to talk about the Apple event anything that was interesting anything was conspicuously absent anything else. [15:08] On my rca or everyone's the cool food for a mac even later this month or let's say next month because they have the lip and he of bead yeah that will prob be the best selling mac again, and the announcement Havasu Mohave think is coming out to Max, next week or probably this weekend I was 12th that's a major update for iOS which will make old phones and fast that's a good thing for everyone who owns an iPhone so, let's move on. David Microsoft officially has a name for the next version of Windows 10 creatively called the October 2018. Wow when can we expect to get that November but I love that got rid of the fall and Autumn and stuff it's like. [16:02] As for arbitrary based on where seattle is so. What is at the Georgian calendar or not it's so pretty much everyone follows the, what's the mohabbatan calendars all sorts of I think my got a vast majority people following that first of the seasons deeper into that is our next episode we can try to be recording more often and we get some get some details as to what's coming in that update I'm running it on one of my machines, as i talk about yes i just it took textbook forty minutes update i shouldn't of said click to start the part right so i want to move on and talk about, some of the some of the things we're seeing with the new windows on our machines there machines now coming out. Battery life is a 25-hour range running Windows it's not crazy it is crazy so the lenovo's got one a lot of what we talked about this before the folks at. Let's build the arm shifter talking about creating shapes that have the same performances and i7 but with much much better battery life, now what i'm expecting david is that you turn off was background sounds as if it's sleep if it's ad that's fault not mine it and then i also expect. [17:27] The next generation is really weird to see if we die we tried we are in Redmond we tried some of the early Windows alarm devices that were they were but they were sluggish they. Buy it and they were they will cases to be righteous and new entered so you take a lap top make it slower and, but I think I think it's going to be pretty interesting so we talked about the Apple event there's a Microsoft Event October 2nd, i have not but if it if it's a new and i would make when you're all talk more about that my rant and rave we wanted me york for that we get an invite. Okay sure I will definitely do that I have a feeling they're going to be announcing some more arm devices as Qualcomm start shipping those new arm chips. [18:19] I've been I've heard they're having a new new Surface laptop I've heard that too, it would be interesting if they could buy those to the Groomer's I'm not sure if that's just the color they did for for the. For the stealth mode machines that they didn't want people recognizing okay so that's the upcoming, microsoft event on october second stay tuned we will cuff coverage of so that yeah that's two weeks from two weeks from tomorrow so we will try to do a voice over like we have done in the past right to the track with microsoft events next week is microsoft ignite, we are not going I got North my office going either just way too much work too much going on this time of year so what we're going to be doing is looking for some correspondence of anybody, that's listening the show is going to ignite. [19:11] Please let us know and maybe you can do a remote segment for us or with us I know we've already got a couple of volunteers we'll talk more about that later. Wanna just do one show next week you're gonna be crazy go for to well and adobe with new one every day talk with enough that they'll depend on what microsoft announces i think we'll have to be fluid dynamic okay, what do you think sure let's try for 5 and go with. Will do we could still do daily daily segments of them back to the mall together, alright do you have another news item David the next one is the winner Microsoft Windows 10 s Enterprises will get I hate to setup a Linux like support. So that means they get support for Josh well I don't know it's like support me but mostly mixes with other than red hat don't really have support. Well right unless you pay for it so basically this means that enterprises will be able to run older versions of Windows 10 longer. Like. [20:24] Like they do with open to where they have what are they call them. So I've been working a lot of organizations moving to Windows 10 and they're really really struggling that's the case maybe they shouldn't be maybe they should understand it's just a minor update makes you just let it run but think they can. So We're there struggling with it this will be good news for them and 30 months okay so that means if you want to update every other year. [20:59] You could do that you could do that we should talk a little bit about it's just that Microsoft is going to be charging for Windows 7. Excited by the way they were charging for supporting XP through the pay for it so for those who aren't aware Windows 7 is coming to end of, January 20th that was what it was supposed to be and now they got his five years of paid support I believe which. Total expected sure you can if you want to pay for it they'll take care of you and I think a lot of people just don't care. And they just let it run without Sportability. I don't want to think about that too much last last piece of news that your phone app in Windows 10. Now has a Android SMS support so from your laptop you can send text messages so I've been able to do this with MightyText for like, 5 years right okay and then there's Android messaging app does it that's right but this is a joke. [22:06] Centralized hub for all of your messages so you can have it come into your Skype stream or whatever really. Ion yeah i use the browser based one with with android and it seems to work well and then it works for my non windows devices like. [22:23] My Android tablet okay so I'm not 7% but obviously you were you put it in the show that's all right. And now well David you wanted to talk a little bit more about was that a rumor you want to talk about any other no but I think it's time for you to have a bit of a rant. [22:46] Music. [22:54] Rants and Raves alright raps here we go 123. For my birthday I went to New York City they were taking my family there I think I've been there but haven't gone to the kids before we spend a few days there oddly enough I ran into some people that I know from Ottawa there right there take down the street so we have some fun you know who you are, what do Yankees gave my birthday try to Nathan's Hot Dog have White Sox. [23:24] Edgewood New York City you did a lot like to talk a lot about the city later but, did go to the Microsoft store in Prairie surface ago there was very noisy busy Place great location, and guess what it's more laughable than a both the surface. [23:47] And the whole body surface for what do you mean by regular some people might not know what that means well but then Mary Jo Foley stole it from us, it means how well it works on your lap at Lop ability is a personal thing because everyone has different left Dimensions based on how big their legs are and how, yo holla at all they are because you get a different angle on your lap based on how tall I was all the distance between the floor and your knees could have packed it totally totally, and I had lap ability issues with the Surface Book would slide off my lap or topple over my lap is slope. [24:29] I had liability issues with the Surface Pro 3 and 4, just because I didn't have enough Lop real estate to get the angle that I need to see if I can make it work but it's not Ideal Baptist for the lift my knees a little bit. David you're taller you didn't have the issues I had, surface go worked really it worked well then that's made for a smaller person cuz I found it was fine I didn't really concert that Billy but I found the keys very small, keyboard was actually better than I thought he would have took her and I skateboard but I still able to type on it so friend of the show fellow MVP Rafael from what the MVP coffee klatch in Germany, tweeted at us asking what which laptop you should take I think the surface go is the perfect device to take to ignite I don't think that was one of his choices though too bad you should go buy one that's right. [25:21] And so I still haven't got my by TSA settlement by the way are they thinking about it I was supposed to six months I got to follow up on that. What do you think surface Kobe tried 1 scene 1. Actually I don't think they have launched it in yet but I have a Microsoft store near office so late, I tried to go there today like it was closed for some reason. How to check it out once it launches in India okay so why is this a wrench. Because you didn't like the store let me tell you why I loved the flagship store, yes am I even went back there on the subway himself he had a great time there they tried some AI some VR they played some games they had an awesome time I couldn't drag them out of there he made a magnet for his locker. [26:15] It was awesome. Then on the way home we just so we drove by on the way home we drove through Syracuse and stopped at another Mall there they had a mother Microsoft store if you want to go look at a mouse. [26:31] He was kicked out of the store for being there without his parents swim team you were just next door you know I wasn't feeling well, yeah so he can't believe I walked over and they said yep no we don't want to babysit your kids all afternoon to the store by himself just yesterday and you won't let him the store yet that's our policy if he walked down the hall and went to the Apple Store instead they have, no issues welcome so I tweeted and the Microsoft store caught back to me, and the manager apologized and he sending him the mouse that he was looking at those a Razer gaming mouse not slow but feels very odd, they didn't want customers in the store yes that he wasn't doing anything, I can see just looking at stuff yeah that's supposed to same thing it was doing the day before at the store New York City. That's funny that's my rant, i too have anything else rats race you have any what about what about heard any rumors for microsoft, well you've heard rumors about the October 2nd event right right and no new device type so I really doubt they'll do an arm thing. I really wish they would do a surface laptop in arm but I don't think they will they will. [27:58] I think they should I don't know I think they should I have a feeling that the Andromeda by Celine ARM device yes but it won't be announced either. I'd do will probably do it on the guys they got them being up there windows from paying the amount of your like it. I think so later I think they'll announce it Alexa something like they will ship it later this year maybe holiday quarter or something like that, I think I put that in the show notes then we have calling. Arbor knot armored October 20th October 2nd or pervasively no. LTE says yes and David let you know arm just. Just updated the surface laptop and it's updated surface Studio. Shall we all find out. [29:05] Yes but we still at my up so how do people contact you you can you need me you get and this oh sorry. Counter. Alright so you want to sign off from India. I think so it's 4 a.m. and I think I should go to sleep anyway so say goodbye. Look at my car right everybody keep your stick on the ice. [29:50] Music. [30:01] Follow the show on Twitter at surface Smith emailed. [30:08] Show notes and leave a comment on www. [30:14] Help others find out about the show by leaving a review on iTunes. [30:17] Music. [30:28] Alright we are back with the universal windows podcast after party also known as the universal whiskey podcast. Damn it sold that yeah I know I stole the podcast of the Podcast Addict. Sticking around with other standard drink and david i brought it something that i i've got as a gift. Gifts are good for sharing this is tom and tool fourteen years old it's forty six percent and it is a space side and as you know i've never myspace i didn't like the exact so space side is just, Parlour Highlands but it's a sub-region so here is what our good friend Jim Murray says in The Whisky Bible. [31:13] This guy is shortness of breath some what the distinctiveness to The Barley & Oak arrive a little flustered and half-hearted rather than with a confidence Drive. Remains of beautiful whiskey full of Vitality displaying The Malt its most naked and vulnerable state they get the feeling that perhaps, a few too many third field or underperforming second that resulted in the intensity and hair-raising Harmony the truly great previous bottling just being slightly undercooked, that's still where the delicious dram and he rated at ninety one and he loves the sixteen it is a ninety four point five will have to get that so let's pour this david yes. It's the fashion for you some as well I could drink it for you though okay. It's very a honey color. [32:13] It's got that sweet sweet vanilla finish that I like and it just easy drinking. [32:22] I have a suggestion. So I got a book I picked up at a garage sale and it's called. What's the call David 100 whiskey to drink before you die hundred whiskey drink, 101 and they're in alphabetical order and for my birthday I thought a friend gave me the first book of the first whiskey and thereby truly by accident. And to give you the book she gave me this book another book what's this one called this one's called whiskey of Sab Rafael. So you know where to go once you're ready to go before you think should we or should we go through that book. As part of our episode three things that the substitute. [33:23] What some might be of statically impossible right well but that is flying to another city and spending a hundred dollars on a whisky. Possible automatically impulse to look for when up you'll get them all week the in order week for week after week with a jump ahead and jack is clearly clearly i've say that's okay yet so you think we should we should move through these. What do you think starting next episode we're going to start with what is it or don't tell them we already did. Kampachi troika. [34:04] What is okay to pour enough whiskey to it through some very good Indian whiskey by the way. [34:15] I've never had that never was really good looking. [34:24] And, deleted my understanding is that they bringing malt from Scotland water from the Ganges out water from the hill stations, and they make it they stored in warehouses in India I don't know whatever what part of it yet but because of the temperatures they're able to agent much much more quickly and because of the humidity, they don't lose as much weave operation. [35:02] I thought you had more when it was hotter humidity humidity. [35:09] That's okay that's happening at this part of the show. It's probably cuz David was playing with my laptop and moving things so so your idea of going through this book so there will be some. [35:27] Epic Journeys to find some of these because well like how will you. We got through our forties without having hailey ecg zr gonna die will do this quick if there it's shite for africa but is there like, of water david it really opens up okay is that this or website, that you can find which bars of which whiskey is in like that but also we order them online from LCBO but yes there are. You know I'm just thinking for some of these you might not want to be spending the $2,000. What a week. And what he cure let me make it more interesting why don't we put the list up on the website and. [36:25] Except patreon that people ship us bottles. And we can we have a Us address we can just ZIP down the mailboxes and pick them up in the states and, where do you at if that's probably what the scottish address scrub a factor okay well i like this was goody think with a little water david really opens up as the. [36:54] I've contemplated bit more okay alright. [37:06] But it's been really good to me and hopefully, order take some notes no notice just fine about to the interior. I think it's best city for those that don't know that's a bottled water in India. Have you been to Canada. [37:30] The states. I used to be like today by first 6 months till my laptop broke down so I am just using Windows on the walk laptop right now. We should try to get you going to become a Windows Insider MVP and then that could be good excuse to come to the states which is probably Canada. [37:59] Sure geographically anyway well. [38:08] Let's so let's sign off and that till next time keep your stick on the ice at your scotch on the rocks. Everyone have a fantastic night I'll talk to you soon and good morning.

Introduction

• Universal Windows Podcast – Episode 88 – Code Name Delta
• You can enjoy us on Spotify and iHeartRadio now – great for streaming!
• Back in Ottawa for a late summer podcast

Word of the Week

• Enjoy a sip of your favourite beverage each time either of us says "Hot".

Feature of the Week

• Microsoft adds new features to UWP File Explorer

Security Corner

David attended the security conference DefCon.org in Las Vegas. His favorite sessions were…

• Fax Hacking
• Hacking Samsung S3 Watch

News of the Week 

• Windows 10 Enterprise for Remote Sessions
• Why are PCs sales growing while Mac sales are crashing?
• Windows 10 lets you draw in your emails
• Windows apps made on Linux hit by security fail
• Nine reasons the Samsung Galaxy Note 9 is best for business
• If you invested $1,000 in Apple 10 years ago, here's how much you'd have now
• Windows 10 Chrome users: Now you get Google alerts in Action Center
• Arm on Windows 10, Chromebooks: Can its new chips challenge Intel on desktop?
• Microsoft to rev its 'Microsoft 365' marketing machine with a new roadmap
• Windows 10 screen snipping tool: Microsoft gives it a new name, adds delay feature
• Windows Phone's terminal wind-down: Microsoft sets new sunset dates
• Windows 10 alert: All versions get new Intel patches for Spectre, Foreshadow bugs
• Startups join the push to revive the palmtop

Rumours of the Week

• Ignite Schedule - A few days ago, there was a session listed as "Surface in the LTE World" (which seemingly has disappeared since) 
• Windows 10 to get new 'InPrivate Desktop' security feature

Rant and Rave

• After Microsoft "Bricks" David's Surface book with a Windows Insider Fast Ring he rants that Microsoft should be more aggressive in its insider builds!

Outro

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Whiskey of the Week

• Weller Special Reserve – great bourbon at a nice price.

Episode 088 - Code Name Delta Windows Microsoft MVP Insider Surface Phone

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David and Colin Do Stuff

Transcript

[0:00] Hello I'm Cortana welcome to the universal windows podcast the show about everything windows such as service x box phones and the windows insider program here are your hosts the surface smith talisman, james smith welcome to episode eighty eight of the universal is podcast what the like eh or delta eighty eight.

[0:25] That's a nice car that was wasn't it been awhile since we've had an episode you've been on vacation I've been on vacation we've been traveling all sorts of things we did a remote what in there it was about the surface go but the surface goes ship now lots of things to talk about for surface nation and delicious the podcast, do you want to tell people where you've been and then I'll tell him where I've been and then we'll move on to the actual show, well last week I went to the Defcon conference in Las Vegas and I learned a couple important things one is why in the world would go to Las Vegas in August, that's a really good question what about the word of the week or the week, and I think you would.

[1:19] Dry death if you'd like fell down in the parking lot you would just do it just dying people do van down parking lot but it's usually at night after drinking a lot, it is hot hot plus vegas is hot when we do we hear the word with david we have a sip of our favorite beverage or something that will keep going until you can get home get your favorite beverage alright so those you playing the game where the leak is hot. Your Las Vegas heard you're also in Florida Florida and Boston and we recorded what you in Florida right and it was hot there as well true true but yes but at least there's ocean there.

[1:56] Are you in Orlando where you don't know why only a little bit was mostly in Fort Pierce on the coast got you, and in boston so hot there it was hot and humid kinda like your.

[2:10] Isn't can you sneeze because of a stacked like you say hot decayed and I spent some time at the cottage, and that was about it for me going to be going to New York next week hoping to go to Rattle and hum and the Microsoft store there. And not a whole lot else but we've not been in the same place all that off in order to record. We are with you that would happen in the summer hopefully and get ten in a row of rambling okay we're gonna move on with the show and some of the things that we typically have in the show so we're gonna start with a feature of the week and I only have a sound effect that day out awhile to fix that welcome to the surface feature of the week thank you David for the week, is universal windows platform file explore did you know there was a universal windows platform filed for i didn't you did not talk taillights there it's there for devices that are not pcs him fight x boxes, things like surface hubs things like those handheld devices look something like this that people ran windows on at one time.

[3:29] IPads no. Windows Phone other devices on or a drama that ever shipped up the ideas that you need to file explorer Pro run as a WWE so it's been in Windows 10. For a long long time since you've been there since the Windows 8 it's not easily accessible level link on how to create a shortcut to it if you want to use it and in the newest version of Windows 10 coming out. We expect next month version 1809 they've added some features to.

[4:02] The file explorer and I guess that's an anticipation of surface Hub 2 and things like that. After I drop support better right click menu support improve copy paste. You cut option and set images wallpaper directly from the app things like that true i was a sanyo bunny.

[4:24] Capitol uwp right that's still not as good as regular File Explorer. Okay but in a touch only world francis how how is it, use File Explorer with pure touch. Bit rough this would be easier i expect sure or of the x box controller or something like along those lines so that's our feature of the week. Anything you'd like to add to that they've I think we have a new statement that you wanted to create since I was at a security conference I thought I talked a bit about some hacking their security so we're going to create a new section of the week or security a week or, people's idea often will do enterprise pick the weekend maybe it's security pic of the week, could do that so why don't we do that spot of Twitter poll and have people vote on option name option that would give them an option to suggest their own okay, 312 if we don't get them to vote, so let's do that but with no one we wanna talk about what they were two sessions they went to the were very interesting one was on.

[5:39] This group of people that researchers decided they try to hack into a fax machine, the call was really built a time machine first don't know people hunt foxes apparently hurley yeah they do to my nose beer colfax quick to german beer i've never had to hack my fax don't know, it's a drink that after after skiing.

[6:03] Okay so what is a descriptive essay reverse-engineer the firmware on HP Inkjet fax switches, I'm sure everybody has one of those in the house they decrypted the firmware which was available on hp's website before you need it. No no that would be reversed they open it up they found out they figured out it it it been, compressed use an algorithm that only once been used before any game somehow they figured that out wow then they learned about what foxes doing did you know you can sell color faxes yes. I did not but that uses a JPEG yes as opposed to black and white uses Tiff well jpegs of course if.

[6:55] Worms cost three holes they can do some sort of buffer or runs and such so what they be able to do in the end is send a fax to your fax machine. Course connected to your computer internet work with the mouth form fax email form j peg and download new firmware to your fax and from there hop on to your peace. Wow they're able to change the logo not that Prince not the physical look of course but the little screen logo. Interesting isn't that so where they the first people to figure this out who knows who knows I mean listening to the people.

[7:41] I'm estimating it would take a person years worth of Labor.

[7:48] Unless you work at HP and already knew some of the stuff right there reverse engineer a ton of this but if as an engineer that worked on that project if you worked at HP or what is one of the few. This.

[8:04] Okay or certainly if they don't know it and so HP of course when they found out about it they flew these guys up to an undisclosed location and they, parks with them so they must they pay people for these sordid zero-day fun abilities and then HP is released a whole bunch of pics of course most people don't patch the printers that much but HP printers to automatic or not mine offer patch. A patch it by sending another mouth formed j paid that patches of for you absolutely they could definitely fact of you so it's okay if you say live in apps and i have a canon doesn't really matter i don't have the stuff no but you have a devices sports a whole bunch of, standards that. That have known vulnerabilities so someone could have easily done the same easily by meaning a Year's worth of work done the same thing for Canon or for Epson.

[9:06] I don't know have ever wanna meet these guys at a cocktail party and talk to them that's just where you wanna meet next during a talk talk about okay oh there's more well them there's from two more sound well that's kinda like and go with. So there was one on this guy who had done the same thing with the Samsung S3 watch which I wanted to go to because I have a Samsung S3 watch. What the guy did is he wrote saw for that runs of the watch and it basically near rated all the api call city could make an look for ones that weren't returning the right err message said he did not permission for that particular thing lot standard approach I guess and then from that he was able to figure out these ones potentially weren't secured properly and through all that he was able to do things like read your messages. So If someone sends you know often you'll get a two-factor authentication kind of thing on your phone and it would go to your watch yet because the message so, they can have access to that.

[10:12] Interesting and the cool thing was he was wearing an Apple Watch actually he was wearing a square watch probably, was it a samsung washer so i thought that was interesting so the sack didn't look like it was is it as intense as the other one because he just wrote a program enumerated the cell an examination of the in of the sort of thing self up. So my thoughts on iot things for the house yeah. If you're going to give it any sort of real control like voice or a camera only by first-party devices.

[10:51] Good bye light switch or in a. Can a power outlet or those are things you know whatever buy something cheap I forget about cuz they're always going to have fun or building could spy on you if you give me information about, then yes and maybe next time we should talk about hamburgers, oh yeah lots going on home matters okay that's a letter did she think with david i think this is something we could build on will definitely tweet out some questions about incorporate a segment and we wanna call it, and. I think it's probably time to move on what you think of move set new story of the week so they leave story of the month that we have an episode about a month for the lot of news to cover. Yes and no particular order.

[11:42] What you want me to start us start you start it the order is the order that you put the news items that are right so windows ten enterprise remote sessions we talked about this before it looks like it's going to be a thing in eighteen o nine up so what does that mean, well in the past we've had things like terminal server recall rd ascot it's come to multiple multiple names, Citrix had something called winframe but basically it's the ability for Windows server to host multiple sessions, I simultaneously on One OS instance desktop.

[12:22] It's ever been on desktop when you do it on the desktop it's called vdi cuz this is this is where people get confused while being called vdi but it's so it's it's sessions versus instances so when were talking about, remote sessions It One OS that's allowing multiple users to use it simultaneously and if it's done correctly they don't see each other they're not aware of each other but it's one instance of the OS with multiple users kind of like, nbstsa norcia mass or any of those make frame multi-user environments. What's One OS running when we're talking about the what. Colloquially called vdi or virtual desktop infrastructure what type of incense is that what that is is a whole bunch of VMS Windows 7 Windows 10 Windows XP whatever that you would.

[13:15] Connect to individually but each person has their own full OS single instance multiples of multiple single instances for the multiple users so that's different Theory make changes to it change the wallpaper and sell a different but you have to manage each of those instances separately. Brighton and then different things what happened maybe your administrator it's setting up so you don't have access to wall paper c license important i don't know cuz i remember this in the eighties well and exhaust pipe system Paradis resource contention so let's talk let's talk about what I'm going to call.

[13:56] Sessions we used to call terminal server so sessions versus instances so vdi versus terminal server, videos great because each person gets a full machine they can do whatever they want with it if you need them to maintain state or not whatever you could give them a local admin if you want to alright.

[14:20] The upside the down side is. 361 takes a lot more resources on on one server you could typically get three times as many. Sessions running as instances so on servers how many more times, you can get more at Moore session II. Got a man he each one of those instances we chappie patched maintained etc when okay and if you wanted to put software on them but c up it and software yet to do to, Sophia 20 of them are hundred a hundred users access you potentially have to manage and maintain 100 in yes I know there's tricks to it and there's linked clones and all sorts of things but you still have to manage each of those instances okay, Dallas talk about sessions sessions you can have a hundred users or 200 users.

[15:26] Connect me to one instance free at once all 200 users get it right okay you can get a lot more users on the same Hardware okay. What's the downside but I mean I just take my CPL with a with Edge going crazy well that's part of it, multiple users be there are ways to limit that they would manage that assuming that you could be besides directly what's the downside to dam site one you can't give your users local event it's obvious local admin they're going to make him specially Mike it up for everybody, that's one second is a mess is more interesting it's a server OS.

[16:09] When you buy an application like I don't know let's say. What's bad example because it's a pretty resource-intensive application but shirtless with AutoCAD, it's certified for Windows 7 or certified for Windows 10 not certified for Windows Server might work but yeah so you typically have to go through a bunch of little hacks and things and tricks to trick, the application the OS to work together because they were never really designed to work together and at the core. Windows 10 Windows 7 really designs and user Wes's easier to navigate and things like that. Windows server was not is not right and so. Could the complexities that come with Windows Server because they're typically designed for you design for.

[17:02] Administrators to use and gives you give up things things like you would, typically manager Powershell etcetera you don't ask me when I suppose that either so that's the downside there so why is this important will because For the First Time Ever you can have multi-session Windows 10 so those applications, that you could run. That like that have trouble running sessions on a server won't have that issue anymore but here's work it's really interesting you don't need to buy a server license and you don't have to buy server Hardware, to run this really inexpensive way to y'all get a half a dozen people working off of one piece of hardware. Either using maybe using an RDP client off their phone or tablet use their phone or the tablet instead of using their my pc and right not using it right of talking yeah but if you're going to be using sessions anyways or vi anyways this is a cheaper way to do it with, with Laura compatibility issues and one machine to patch it give the Windows 10 however 21 instance to patch and maintain. Okay so that's why that's exciting well as a pretty long use item it was it was.

[18:16] Hear something exciting David what you want take this one wire PC sales growing Womack sales are crashing. I've got some ideas do you have some ideas I mean the Mac hardware has been stagnant I think that's would be, part of the reason why they're not doing too good that there is that and Microsoft some coming up with new Innovations and we we've discussed it. Limitations of things like the surface go. Take this definitely and so there's a couple things going on here right i understand that the. There's been a lot of innovation in the PC space, got the surface as an example and multiple vendors all jumping in all doing things a little bit differently and got one vendor that really hasn't updated, i were too much on the back side that looked good price very good and they kind of grow out of the crappy keyboard.

[19:13] So here's the thing, what they're saying that PC Mark is going 1.4 to 2.7% depending on the ask Garth Gartner I deceive it's growing very smart very small growth but the key is it's being driven by, she was sales but by enterprise sales so, part of that Enterprise refresh cycle and Windows 10 and part of it is becoming more and more deployed throughout Enterprises remember 2020 January. Windows 7 no longer supported, so they're working with your get off of that so they're buying as part of their Windows 10 upgrade they're looking at some of the great new security features that you only get with UEFI, and things like that so they're looking at more modern PCS that have TPM and UEFI support and things like that to take advantage of celebrity features windows ten and their refreshing their fleet of pcs right in the art department still has, facts right and the whole users a lot of them so of the max, if ever had one I see a lot of Home users never using their PCS anymore they're using their tablets or using their phones they're using other devices, alright so any other news David how about Windows 10 lets you draw in your emails.

[20:37] So if you happen to use the Windows 10 mail app which I do you do do you really I do why would you do that.

[20:46] I don't know what I was going to say it looks there because I install Office 365 right away, but it's got new pen and ink support for many years I was just a complete and total glutton for punishment. But now it's actually it really nice nap, I wonder if I have the most recent version here I am drying on it and I'm seeing nothing happened draw how it is your job by finger there you go, okay okay yeah there we go try and canvas right there we should put that in future of the week well. Alright there you go. Well thanks for the help, okay here's a piece of news that maybe we should have saved for your security your security segment do I take that one. Which won the windows and no stops made on live next, by security fail what was 3-1 you can make Windows apps on Linux. Why cuz you can develop Universal Windows apps on any five. Okay so this is basically it's one of the tools that they give you. Has somebody release of interest well it doesn't get as much of a robust check as it does on the window side going to comes down to it so.

[22:15] Will a bunch of different distributions are affected by a court in the compiling tool.

[22:22] And so I don't know a lot about it but 64-bit PCS with specific versions of.

[22:32] Athletics end up putting the executables with relocation table intact. Okay and there's a workaround okay so for those of you do well in a windows developers on lennox at listen the show they go. 9 reasons why the Samsung Galaxy Note is the best reason so I totally disagree with number 9, oh you want talk about that life wasn't even there did you put that there you put it there, I don't trust myself I should I shouldn't write show notes or you're not drinking it was hot number 9 at least this number 9 is Samsung Dex which is basically. Continuum for Samsung it's really cool I mean all you do is you plug in external USB C DisplayPort.

[23:25] And hook up a keyboard somehow and all the sudden you're kind of having a Linux or Android type device that you can access, and you can access your Windows 10 session server you can access it's so it really it's really cool I played with it for a few minutes and then, I don't know where it's gone because that's just have no used to me alright is Samsung pay which is. Supposed to be better than Google Play, I've got Samsung pay Google pay and I've got I can pay from my bank app and I never use any of them, pay on my watch but my bank doesn't support it yet so yeah I can pay with my watch have just feedback, say something and in the after parties to things or talk about in the after party about my iphone and about a credit card scam, Xbox at the end of The Show by you'll miss out on that, yeah she speak about you I saw a.

[24:36] Dell monitor 23 or 24 inch monitors 120 bucks but it's base was a Qi charger, oh that's nice and she is two standard that Apple and Samsung use right that's nice that's nice, fast charging and wireless charging find that they're doing a great job of that I have a Samsung 8 which is little bit older and it's. Beat meaning older meeting 6 months 9 lb available on wireless carriers everywhere so you can use the face the fingerprint. Pin Samsung Knox. Enter stealth of frontman enterprise perspective baker display will you can't argue with that not being a good thing.

[25:22] Dual rear cameras so can do some interesting that depth-of-field things like that for what they called a bokeh effect. My wife has a iPhone 8 plus and I have. Gestational age plus and it does some really cool features but overall a really good phone not quite is the only type and the porter motor does this fantastic and then i have my same sun which does amazing at Lower Lights blowing her phone away but otherwise my Lumia 1020. Fantastic fantastic wants better than the Lumia so okay it's better okay.

[26:09] Okay and the s pen that's been.

[26:14] Would you get mad on the phone he had a yes. Well that was fun note series though that maybe shouldn't put that in the show, can you do me a favor don't ever alright here's something interesting.

[26:36] So we talked about Apple is now the world's first privately-held trillion-dollar company. Auto market cap just means if you were to buy up all the outstanding stock in Apple, because a trillion dollars yes except whenever down but you were buying out the rest of the sheriff's will typically if you start going on a buying spree, that's all it means that's totally anime more profitable anyone else or that they have more Revenue than anyone else just means that's what they're outstanding stock is worth at current market value so I thought Amazon be the first trillion-dollar company they're not help you took a look at the others, but that slash google there the seven thirty billion dollar range i think and was on the nine hundred billion dollar a microsoft's in the room microsoft's run seven sixty five but it changes from day to day, on market conditions of people that really excited about this but you put it in terms that actually.

[27:35] Make sense what hat what would happen if you invest $1,000 in apple 10 years ago, how much you have that if you have almost $10,000 which is interesting cuz I bought Apple in 2008 which is 10 years ago, does that she put me is trading options doing sc crazy leverage stuff and i was forced by apple and hundred eighty dollars a share oh darn and i sold it when it 370 Borden double what I paid for it so you could but if you about Microsoft during that time your thousand would be worth $5,000 for the first six seven years of that Microsoft stock was dipped and then was flat that's right yeah you could make, yeah baby Microsoft is might have outperformed didn't the last couple years but certainly over 10 years which is a good night to the last 3 years.

[28:26] I was talking to a friend of mine when he was about investment when you're trying to invest in for a particular topic 2 particular goal retirements hard cuz you don't know how long you going to live but some Investments like buying a house or putting your kid to school or whatever you know approximately when your kid will graduate you know approximately how much money and so you can start making long-term Investments like apple that was Apple going to become a 10 trillion-dollar company over the next 10 years no but I would have said. 10 years ago they wouldn't have gone up tenfold so hey what do I know well typically companies that grow 10 full don't grow another 10 fold in the same time. It's time to find another horse that right but they did. But they were pretty small 10 years ago compared to weather now. Alright Windows 10 chrome users now get alerts in the action center so far what is the actual Center called the action centers the little piece on the bottom right-hand corner of your Windows 10 screen where you get alerts like the new updates or your Dexter I've got a dentist appointment right right things like that.

[29:42] And you can add things to the alerts and so Google has added that form from users so what kind of alerts maybe update to Chrome Etc, there's not much alerting system within chrome to i mean i get them on my phone all the time he actually say yes and some website your, Tim to this message okay so since we're talking about Chrome next one is really we've been following this, arm chips the new snapdragons are out and Qualcomm is claiming that they have i7 performance. Is that we've been talking about windows ten on arm and now we're looking at.

[30:22] Tell me the next few months seeing retail versions of Windows 10 and are machines that perform. Similarly to an i7 now that's something I be excited about so you're saying it can be cheaper and either or combination of. Lighter or smaller battery or run longer. Could be but I don't think she forgot but aren't the arm architecture definite lends itself to the following for takes one. Less power hungry also runs cooler which means for form factor perspective you you have more latitude.

[31:09] How you build a device because it's not getting hot we've been to all these Microsoft sessions for the talking about their beautiful cooling system right so make it simpler right so you don't have to worry about cooling systems you want to worry about airflow as much so. Because it don't run it's hot over the week and so as a result it's more flexibility design, you also get much better battery life because they're lap power-hungry yes and arm ships just by their nature. Alarm devices have the, what we caught were used on our phones at Institute on they can be to do if different on until they ate they can be sipping power waiting for some event like a phone call at cetera and, then they start using power more after the phone rings you pick it up at cetera in the two criticisms I've heard mostly about the surface go are it's not large enough for my hands I heard those criticisms from me, and then the other I've heard is that the battery life isn't too long so if you took that sort of device you're not going to fix the hand Problem by going to arm but the same size same weight battery would probably do an extra. For 5 hours and here's the thing. Almost every Qualcomm chip also has an option with route to eat baked on true right so.

[32:30] Intel don't really have a lot of options with LTE to separate, add that to build on the sock right yep at that separately it would want not who would not want to have lt available for a little no extra charge you can if its cheap enough then you can don't really care if it's they're not there and just use if you want exactly, so we've been tracking this but looks like they're coming who's coming the fast arms were coming for. Welcome okay alright. There was the best Saturday Night Live skit all right.

[33:13] Microsoft a rev it's microsoft three sixty-five marking machine the new road map so microsoft three sixty-five brings together all whole bunch of different things we talk about the pass on the three sixty five windows ten as a service, Enterprise Mobility Suite as your ad whole bunch of different things and they're rubbing it they're really pushing this Microsoft 365 thing, I think it's going to be good for them you might be different feel like, because they got some interesting properties that Windows 10 is getting momentum of 600 million devices running it and throwing it mandatory still upgrade from Windows 7 unless you go to Linux or something else because I won't be support for it took a girl that more Office 365 is.

[33:58] Will growing like crazy but that's gonna peter out because two will be on left the migrate soon but look at companies like google. On the Android devices are so successful because they Leverage The Google services that you're there you're already using other devices that makes us on a really good job of making some of their Office 365 and Dynamics and other services available cross platform, will it ios and android all in next and so on windows of course, and I'll put that all together taking of what it's a better together story with Windows 10, and you cant use your chromebook to access office three sixty-five it's just would you do with windows ten you get a more integrated experience all.

[34:44] Synth definitely better office application then you would if you center chromebook will get, it's better for you maybe the web-based experience versus a local install experience or the Android app. What are they calling that or is that part of that.

[35:09] They have their also basically doing a similar program with surfaces are they not so that's part of that that's part of that where you can actually. You can actually.

[35:22] To buy everything from them so it's Target smb3 by your Hardware or software you think about smbus is mpc5000 seat most of them. Please office still use exchange online please SharePoint tell you some kind of Erp so Microsoft Dynamics, as part of that and we'll use PCS Microsoft mouse all those things in the world that sells the hardware the software, office productivity as well as the ear piece off where weather takes forever it's partners whether to see are ample yet but but it'll the vendor that hat that we all look at people softer oracle you look at a c p you have they don't have the hardware know they don't have the productivity Suite so they don't OK Google total productivity Suite maybe we can talk about that separately but. Microsoft really uniquely positioned in this to take advantage of this and that's why companies like Google and Amazon are trying to build office suites. So they can get into Amazon of course I do know Amazon lots of course okay. Let's move on to snippy snippy oh God where Sean alright.

[36:45] The new Idol a feature so full it was sniffing to alright this is not. I think you're more would have used no no this not help with your cigar so. Basically the i new features of this this or tolls and the the favorite one at that i see there i didn't as the delay feature so you can go and how you have what pop up when nobody sees you click away from it, it disappears and you can't get a screen capture of it then you can do that with this. So I've been using another tool for years I'll call Fastenal capture and I've also be which I paid for you don't use, snag get from ss from tax and it, i do use negative place cam page a from texas more than snag and i pay the read while though as an mvp i get free version of maggot my snagit outrun the portal app I can run fast one capture off of USB key. Take it with me to client sites and work on their machines it's also very very light weight compared to snag it's not get a whole lot more. A light weight version of an app that that works well for me. Call your clients let you run your own software that sounds good man to install I have to run it if so run it halide run things PSP so that's why I'm not even from OneDrive. Yeah anyways we forgot to tell everyone day what the new tools called.

[38:12] It's called Snap and sketch slip and sketch oh my God. That's such an awful name it is it sounds like it it sounds like. Okay so yeah so they're basically updating it they're doing all sorts of updates with these these little free utilities there could be a bunch of updates to Sticky Notes so they're going to stick it out cross-platform she could speak another new desktop not show up on your phone and stuff like that, excited maybe even SMS messages from your Windows desktop to your phone.

[38:58] So the windows phone terminal line down that this is not me and there is no terminal application anymore for windows phone, but microsoft to set the due dates of things that they're taking away from windows phone i fine this kind of hilarious so from october thirty first the microsoft store will no longer accept do app submissions for windows eight acts earlier or i guess a point one or really really numbers again for the offer phone or windows.

[39:29] Is phone windows eight windows eight one who still remembers who okay who would write hood to submit.

[39:40] Does phone app to the store between now and october thirty first at lee hunter, who won MVP at Lee Hunterdon Marshall Windows 8.1 app so you know I work with a lot of mpoints and, i ran into windows eight about the same other times i run into vista.

[40:04] Peter Norton baby, notice I'm not suggesting that they're getting inundated with submissions they're just working on one get it in soon and or sickly the whole intake. Machine for turning it off and but you can still update yes so if you get that little app through submission I guess you can keep updating it will have to write to the people about the Opera. The absolute until they stop supporting Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 they'll let you update but it just it just curious, alright here's something we should maybe if I put this night security Corner was an interesting name for that segment so Windows 10 all new all versions. Will get a new Intel patch for Spectre at foreshadow.

[41:04] Before we are relying on the firmware vendor to take care of that. Dell v hp's de la rosa etc and now microsoft is that is offer patch in their os oh that's interesting this and that yeah. Okay okay and here's a little bit of. We need to go back to the music Back to the Future music cuz I don't have any Back to the Future music, and now from the past right.

[41:43] Bunch of startups are trying to revive the palmtop.

[41:48] So not them already keyboard is ghana and everyone on soft keyboard go except government workers in ottawa that still have classic blackberries there's a whole bunch of, whole bunch of companies that are trying to bring back clamshell or card keyboard, devices so there's the GDP pocket there's a Gemini there's a guy on Five. I don't know who they're getting funding from why are we not getting funding like this whenever asked why we we should. Right so that to for the crowd funded oh okay fine but anyways it's kind of blast from the past this is it is something weed weed cover that and i love stories like that so i think that's it for the news.

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[42:48] Alright so that's it for the news but we've got lots more to talk about where it could be a long show because a lot to catch up on and. I think we should go to heard any rumors from Microsoft will call him a couple so first off. We're not going to ignite this year. Come come September right as of now we're not going to be in Orlando. Back in early August as looking at bae. Specialist for ignite and and we saw session called surface in the LTE world so okay but there's a surface 4 with LTE. Yeah then the surface go it's gonna be available on lt, write the session disappeared so maybe there could be announcing the surface go LTE at ignite and the surface 4 is no longer the current Surface Pro 4 getting the Pro 4 it's not current right.

[44:11] He got a laptop. The certainly didn't know which one to take it you got a Surface Pro. Weather, the Surface Pro without a number which is what's confusing right which is a Surface Pro in my world. What's out that's one and you want to take the other rumor David that Windows 10 is going to get it in private that's talk what would use that for calling. Now what basically it it shut it's it's going to. Ignite so where you wanna go to some hot website all you don't do that your browser without then. So being private desktop to throw a Sandbox so you can write an application download to install an application to you something disappear freeware soft and it disappears when your session ends, wow that would be awesome right okay I like that.

[45:15] Okay you have to like everything I install lots of crap in my systems and sometimes it doesn't work inside so throw it out.

[45:24] Yo you want to convert a jpeg to a Tiffany don't have utility download want to do it then you done with it.

[45:35] So that's a another rumor any other rumors you want to spread David I don't know. Alright what is microsoft so what if microsoft's latest warrant what if apple, what if Apple was forced to abandon the lightning connector switch to USB what if the folks in the EU declare the standard because of the E-Waste the only different cables and things like I do that right they regulate bananas the curvature of banana and the shades of orange than orange can be and things like that.

[46:07] Truth so what if they said you don't want all mobile phones have to have a standard connector and it's USB C so let's talk good and bad USB C vs lightning connector. Thought both of them. Be put in upside down like a stat like a micro or mini usb that can be put in sideways that's true but that the of yucca root but so here's the thing, lightning connector solid connector but the cable sometimes we're up it's easy to use. So is USBC right but what I don't like about USBC is that it's a hollow it so things can carry in your pocket your car is stuck is jammed in there, star pins I got bad. Right up your PC speaker it looks pretty small when you look inside a computer but it looked on the side of his table right here where to go, that's not it let it go ahead one little one so large as devices gets smaller that becomes your limiting factor right. What i would like a because it be nice to have less types of ice tray tables are i've noticed i have of i don't have faith three us pc devices around the house my sons chromebook my. Oh for my my Samsung S8 plus my.

[47:35] Fist fuck that and use it plus my work laptop and they all use them down at all the standards just don't really work that well but a little usb c cables are cheap apples i can make much money on a cure for. Here's the thing if we really wanted to.

[47:55] Which could take a while they're there for switch because so much momentum behind it so the device out there but here's the thing apple could just say screw you you. Interesting phrase in say we're talking to put a usb c connector on it where do the same thing with.

[48:14] Sure make it Wireless.

[48:18] Yes USB C standard things like that I would have to think that the Apple standard is. More uniform than what we get on the USB site C side of things so the quality is going to go down for Apple users.

[48:39] Well you can buy third-party lightning connector and I bought a bunch of the Raider realize other AppleCare I get free ones could I buy cable wore out the connector and where it was the cable that would wear out I didn't realize that I could go to the Apple Store just get new ones but then I bought a bunch of these, out of order but yeah we kind of usb c look at seven o'clock hold of them like this okay so sad to see if that's at the. Micro to micro to lightning I bought a cable when I was down south that does USBC lightning, and USPS and you just pull the tap out do that. Not yet my doesn't Brooke but a welcome anyway. And david i know this something that you wanna talk about rants and raves so today i installed the latest windows insider build and my computer cannot pass me for my.

[49:46] So luckily I haven't started in the Microsoft cloud and I just retyped it in and so on so this is not a complaint against Microsoft in that they were, almost broke my computer but I think that the inside of her it's been pretty laid-back in this stuff pretty unaggressive in pushing out new changes to the world, the fact that something failed in my computer I think that's pretty good it shows that they're pushing things on a bit so my rant is that The Insider program should be pushing things a bit harder than they've been pushing.

[50:18] Is that a rant or Rave not really pretty lame. Gastric bypass Springfield MO failure failure failure I've had in like a year yeah I think mastering should have more failures. Anything else when you talk like that nope okay so why don't you just say goodbye. Goodbye everybody have a fantastic day and we'll see you in the after party yeah keep your stick on the ice.

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[51:29] Welcome to the after party also known as the universal whiskey podcast cuz we can't call the podcast anymore. People caught the podcast in the so David I brought along something I forgot to bring along but I pick this up this afternoon so I picked up some nice Bourbons in the States but then I drank them, nice nice whiskey I got this is Weller original wheated bourbon Special Reserve so Weller was the first guy w l Weller was the first guy to add wheat to Bourbon. And the recipe he created also became Pappy Van Winkle no no it's the, Weller 12 year old which is actually the same as the Pappy recipe all they do is they take if it doesn't quite make the mark for Pappy. For whatever reason and they use as a twelve year old the well wishes close to pappy as you can get without being pappy i'm happy you're happy happy happy so here it is this is the weller. Wheated bourbon Special Reserve.

[52:37] Sprouts not in and listen to the er ski bible right they've got for this of the about four whiskeys in this family. And don't get missed all done by Buffalo Buffalo Trace that sounds nice. Yes that's one thing can't do as well with the headset mic I think it sounded great. Alright so it's good caramel color called you first the back for the week to start the stick with flavoring back to we.

[53:19] So the well the bourbon make it so that makes it sweet so does corn different sweet sweeter than regular. Vanilla slippery finish vanilla not quite as sweet as something like Maker's Mark no look at this I'm drinking with my left hand with the microphone on the left. And not hitting the microphone I am getting better at this podcasting stuff at the whiskey breaking stuff. You need a.

[54:01] Music.

[54:16] Definitely a bourbon you don't no smoke no no salt very smooth very sweet. Enjoyable, second sorry sir with the city of. Don't know I wouldn't recommend Diet Coke I'd say regular Coke what did you call it.

[54:49] So you were gonna after party are gonna talk about your i phone so force is new battery will let the top of the three thing or talk about okay one ft i saw something at the elsa belle today the haven't seen a long long time. Macallan 12. Ontario for a long time as member they victim of their own success me at the look for men bigger Market or special Market but I guess they Rectify that situation Andrew how did you Rectify this Biden, but when i got some home oh hell it's stockpiling it okay if that's why they shortage, what I would like every time I go to the US I buy a bottle or their 5-minute Market that has it realigned their stock, 12 years old for bottling and yes so that 12 and 18 became very hard to find they went to the Sienna's and the rubies in the cold cold night you're all fine whiskeys.

[55:48] So that was interesting so iPhone so two things both of you that use iPhones my iPhone in the last few months I found the battery was getting really really. Weak item that most days I couldn't get through the entire day without a charge other days I barely get to noon and I wasn't quite sure why. That was cuz your battery was were not apart leak but the battery health of Tommy is at 86% which I thought was pretty good, I look at these two things someone and I'm not sure which is which, one of the apps I'd I had or more reason location services my location services on all the time choose up your battery Outlook with one of them so maybe only updates to Outlook turn on location services perhaps when I gave my son his phone died and I turned on the the tracking app on his phone, how to make turn it on in my phone etcetera but it was turning those off me should have made a difference but I thought the Apple Store and I've known about this but I didn't know what standing is that they've got a $35 battery replacement program in ascending and it's ending in December now if you're under all potion or if you're under AppleCare the battery place this free my AppleCare ran out awhile ago but it's thirty five dollars canadian i don't know what five dollars american of as and.

[57:04] For thirty five dollars plus tax will replace your battery and from the easiest replacements can do they actually did the replacing get as opposed to giving you a new faucet takes about an hour suggest you backup your phone but the thing is i battery now i have it i can use the phone all day, I charged it pick it up at 6:30 this morning when I woke up off the charger that 68% that's what that's what Veronica's getting with her phone what are you at.

[57:31] 47 much better than was before I'd be down sometimes to 30% by lunchtime or that's what I got with my old at 7 I should have found it back, i got was watching tv at ten at night i'd be down well below twenty percent up and down ten five percent at least 2 years old so I'm in a phone battery shade three years old this should make these devices 6s plus I got it when it was through the 7 was before the 7 came out so I got it then January came out in September I got it in January. So that's too bad because I. Right so I can't remember when that was it was during the winter suit Winters ago but anyways.

[58:22] You got till December so make you book your appointment do it if your battery health is showing anything below 90% go and get it done $35 will add life to your phone and make of the resale value higher as well.

[58:38] Exactly welcome might not be lasting all day cuz other apps running. Take care of those but here's the thing 35 removed out of my old phone likes S7 I removed everything I reimaged it I whatever and it would never come back, the weather should tell there was definitely a hardware problem beautiful solution from Apple $35 because lithium ion batteries degrade over time after about 2 years they start to degrade very rapidly. Is a song is charge cycles heat cold all sorts of things what do you think of the bourbon. Canadian $40 to us $35.

[59:26] Alright so couple of other things wanna talk about with you and talk about him that was all i had.

[59:34] Text talk about the iPhone talk about the McAllen tahoe at Pappy.

[59:46] What do you want for dinner Dave wings wings we try out the new the replacement Door Pub yes. Alright so well let's wind down cheers.

[1:00:01] And we try to have a more regular schedule come september can we back in school doing things we are away next week so am away, Thursday to Tuesday to go to Yankees game of my buddy Carlos called a hardly receive an auto accident he's in New York state where you staying at the hotel I was going to stay up I'm a block away can I find a place with free breakfast we'll hang out New York to hang out in Ottawa Carlos if you're listening hey the boys going boys love Carlos. And yeah sure i know about it but i was over there on yeah okay if nothing your before outside of the airport so. Marcy there is elliot wants to go and go to pump comedies pub which is the inspiration from clarence on how i met your mother that's what, not just Matt was there this week which mat, Matt Murphy so actually I want to let him know that the clock tower has an open mic can he can make some money there.

[1:01:05] Is my neighborhood so sounds good. Let's wrap it up and go from Winx all right thanks for asking that's awesome drink all right then picture of the show notes keep your stick on this case your bourbon on the rocks by everyone.

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Introduction

• Universal Windows Podcast – Episode 87
• You can enjoy us on Spotify and iHeartRadio now – great for streaming!
• David is in Florida, Colin is in Ottawa

Word of the Week

• Enjoy a sip of your favourite beverage each time either of us say "Maker".

Feature of the Week

• Nearby Sharing to transfer files, photos, etc.

News of the Week

• Microsoft Surface $400 iPad rival has Intel Pentium, Windows 10, benchmarks suggest

• Interview with Kevin Wheeler, Windows Insider MVP
• Follow Kevin @ https://twitter.com/_KevinWheeler

• Microsoft Surface Go: What the pros need to know
• Samsung, Arm team up: Expect new mobile chipset faster than 3GHz
• Microsoft Earnings Report With $110 billion of revenue for its fiscal 2018, Microsoft crossed the $100 billion annual-revenue milestone for the first time in the company's history.
  • Commercial Cloud $23B
  • Surface $4.6B
  • Gaming $10B
  • LinkedIn $5B
• Windows 10 on over 700 Million Active Devices

• Moving to counter Amazon, Microsoft and Walmart forge far-reaching cloud alliance

Rumours of the Week

• Improvements to Notepad in RS5
  • Find/Replace
  • Large Files
  • Line Numbering
  • Navigation
• Red Hydrogen: What we know about the $1,200 'holographic' phone
  • Runs Android
  • Carrier unlocked
  • 5.7-inch screen with "nanotechnology" to seamlessly switch between 2D, stereo 3D and 4-View "holographic" display modes
  • Front and back cameras
  • Supports modular attachments, including an upgraded camera module
  • Charges over USB-C
  • MicroSD card slot for expanded storage
  • Headphone jack
  • Can serve as a touchscreen monitor for Red's other cameras
  • Available in titanium ($1,595) or aluminum ($1,195)
  • Shipping Q1 2018

Rant and Rave

• David goes on and on "Why did Microsoft release an inferior tablet that nobody is going to buy?"

Outro

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Whiskey of the Week

• David loves his Makers 46

Episode 087 - Go Surfacesmiths Go Windows Microsoft MVP Insider Surface Phone

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David and Colin Do Stuff

Transcript [0:00] Hello i'm court anna welcome to the universal windows podcast the show about everything windows such as service x box phones and the windows insider program, here are your host the cephus smith. Time Colin Smith. No matter where we are we're still the surface Smith's bringing you what you need to know about Microsoft Surface at other windows 10 related news. What's that in Celsius. [0:55] Just funny that we every summer weather cell we're supposed to be in summer hiatus i've been taking some time off david to take some time off from work remotely, there's just too much interesting stuff going on in the Microsoft world to not have an episode is truly new hardware is always enters you hardware at all such announcements you microsoft releasing earnings gel all sorts of stuff for us to do in and it take care of hey guys what about the word of the week opec's Cortana thanks for reminding us David you want to go somewhere the week. I think we should go for the word of the week to feed maker maker. At Microsoft is the maker of the surface go. I'll write rhymes baker we're gonna go with maker so for those of you playing the game every time you're one of the same maker. To take a drink so for instance david if. If you told me your wife wouldn't do something I would say maker. A golf. She's not listening and she has your first marriage going calling it's still going to swap just fine David teacher of the week. [2:13] And us paris for also known as david. That's awesome yeah actually I don't know, call nearby sharing and we can you transfer files photos etc the app pass be aware of it but first you have to turn it on so if you go in the settings. You'll see that you can turn on something called nearby sharing and you could turn it on for everyone nearby or only your devices. And you can choose where files that you receive our store. Got a screenshot of that that's going to be in the show notes. But i do have a i have a have a working across my devices, it's a great way to transfer files photos were of your and add you can send the link to web page to another device but for most people just the way to share files you don't have to copy them to usb key in and transferred over. [3:28] What do you think about that. [3:33] You know the story technology has existed for a long time with things like infrared and all those early Sangster. [3:42] So I think it's a good picture but I don't think people will end up using because you know if you have somebody has something slightly different different version of Windows or a different device then they won't be. Fair enough but over time everything will happen everywhere. [4:01] Are people that matter will anyways especially if it's cross your own devices. If you do want to use it you can within add you click share within the photos app you click share or if your file explorer click on a file and right click share and it'll look she look for devices that I can share with. [4:18] That's the feature of the week and we love a try to have a feature of the week every week. [4:26] Time for. Could use all kinds of news to talk about it let's go swim promo the most important one obviously for us being the surface Smith's Microsoft, announced a brand new Surface called the surface go. So where you ten inch tablet vs standard calling her windows pro house with your answers bro have when. Flexible kickstand lower in Pentium processor. Earlier today I interviewed Kevin wheeler and that he gave us a rundown on that and I'm going to play that interview right now, okay so kevin's is here to talk to me to day about the surface go to kevin was your first impression when you heard about the surface go. [5:51] Why was kind of shocked right with all the talk of a Andromeda I was kind of shocked that they they actually want for this form factor, shocked but it was a pleasant surprise, jot notes and so when this came out i was really excited about it I was too so I kind of had a hint was coming so I don't know if you know the story last time we were together was in Redmond and Dave and I flew out David brought his surface 3 along, and for the lady gave it to me to use as the soundboard for the recording studio, so give the sound effects i use and stuff like that was a big and has good battery on it and the ts a broke. On my way leaving Seattle and so I'm still in the process of filing a claim with them at the six-month process but they make knowledge the claim and. [6:47] What you talking to our mvp track lead on the non insider side and i was looking at replacing to just wait just wait to buy a surface streets i knew that was coming. Multiple models what are we looking at is a 10 inch display. I thought it was much higher than that I don't know why. I'm look go from a by i thought it was slick eighteen twenty four. It's it's eighteen hundred by twelve hundred yet you think you tube will surface device would have you not high resolution but one of the nice things i like about it is the aspect ratio they you know they been sticking to that three by two right. These new devices so really really good for it. Okay so actually that's a Surface Pro that I was looking at the not those look at the wrong specs there. So what else is interested it's gonna four gig in an eight gig. [8:13] The 4 Gig seems to be paired with the 64 GB of storage which is emmc, however you know this form factor with that with the fast storage, you know for gigs of ram maybe some fishing and a lot of use cases well if it just taking note you not running autocad or anything i did a lot of multi tasking or they'll on my original surface pro, southern sleeping about this device is is the process to chores they went way for a penny am write previous model the surface 3. [9:43] The forty four fifteen why and when you re take a hard look at the specs in the benchmarks this is actually, or in three process. [9:53] Interesting so yeah is this a generally available chippers is a special special man fab pf just for microsoft. [10:06] Is not any other devices so just gonna be in a surface pro has so it's it's it's korean own specs, been is half the cast in a little bit lower frequency, because coil processors were really good what kind of performance battery cancer. S and so this you know the better performance and the price point right this is half the price of korean process. [10:47] Mariah so interesting value proposition there I've already asked Microsoft to send me a demo unit haven't heard back yet they're trying to get me to wait until August 2nd when these devices are released so. Put on three different hats. As you know in your in your work life if this was a machine that you want were gonna buy for work which model would you buy and what would be the use case for it. So I would probably go with the 8 gigs of ram hunting and 28 GB hard drive or SSD and abuse case would be for manufacturing and field use. These devices. You know they don't have fans there's no ventilation so they're great in those environments where there's dust and things like that cuz they're completely sealed I've seen use cases where users want to buy mobile, they want to be able to move around manufacturing floors and be able to connect to their virtual desktops and still be productive while on the go. Great for scanning or or you know contacting in in getting information from machinery and things like that. [12:08] Okay now put on your consumer hat or go up. [12:23] Even though that the Costco model is tempting I still think I would want the I want the 8 gig RAM for myself that hundred 28 GB SSD is fine for me my use case day i mean i would use a like a black and no pat, I see that use case it as a journal I'm looking at it as a stopgap to something else that may be coming down the road. [13:08] How another that's interesting you bring that ruggedized up Microsoft said that, devices air manufactures already building rugged as cases and screen protectors for the surface fell nice yeah i see some of those in the garage at their three d printing for other devices and that's be so what about the lt, i think i'm gonna hold out for the lt version is the same snap dragon axe six bobbing is that x sixteen lt modem that's in the surface pro, i mean the surface pro l t e it and just like the surface pro is still dual antenna moto so shes expects a really good performance with there okay what about a student, which model will try to find a use case for that for Geek machine is there one. [14:01] I think this I think that's where the student comes into play the student and probably help care could come into play here right most of the time a student or storage but i think that fit the student well healthcare, ten to use bd ir remote so a lot of processing power that they are doing is in the back and so happy bat model fit help years well okay so here's a question for you base devices yeah windows on arm, clearly for at least Pentium devices, now the surface go vs let's say you you saw that the ace is in the h p r n devices that we can run, write me later but you can run for windows ten arm and run x eighty six apps. [15:20] That's perfect so i was reading i get the model number on but that's have a look. Qualcomm has announced a new generation of arm chips that they believe will compete performance-wise against low end. [16:00] I7 860 s and. Gonna have a lot more performance better battery life etc just like all the snap breaking, An Arm based device and if it has a surface logo on it that would make it even more tempting. [16:31] Yeah I could see maybe that's why some of some Hardware some interesting Hardware may have gotten, that can compete in at add where there's really no compromise and performance to innovate and or do something you know right cell, surface just doesn't do they always on that will i come up pretty quick but it's not the same as an arm device what are we giving up on battery power. [17:46] Yeah there's a compromise their own battery and do we have any form factor compromises because of heat. [18:09] There's no vents I love that's what I loved about the old surface 3 is the rounded edges. And it like I said there's no vent so. Dustin things like that is gonna be great in those types of environments. Is this what does this use the standard surface charger what at connector called. Also has a usb type c connector right what you can do video, Jada and charger that was what I was hoping for. [18:45] Service connected and the usb c is fast charging right you can go from zero to a hundred percent in less than two hours that's what i been waiting for all my devices do everything i need to do so they don't have that i would love the instant on i could live without the insane on if i can get all of that one device that would be. For me a big change in how i can work and the use cases and that will replace a lot of. Not just Microsoft if you look at what HP is doing there's reports that Dale has a device, you running on arm so i think you're gonna see a lot more manufactures getting on the arm, and you think the grieving streaming think that the start knishes like manufacturing or healthcare or specific use cases. [19:59] I think because of the other manufacturers like Dell and HP I think they'll go mainstream. I think I think that I think there's a void out there there's a gap in the end what you can do with small, devices at i think the i pad is out there to many but i think that the still of gap bet it leaves when it comes to Performance or productivity that even consumers look for the iPad iPad. [20:32] Yeah and in this device the way they position at it was all about coming in at the lower end Healthcare you know. Don't book the beer do aware of what's going on with in the world of chrome in education and things like that and so i, yeah he knows that he's got to use it so he wants to bring his own laptop to school for next. No You know I see a lot of people Millennials now and they haven't use Microsoft Office in the decade or ever they live on Google Docs they live on. We had a we had a a young dude. [21:49] Who kept losing work because they didn't know they had hit the save button in Word. Well yeah but we need to save it and save it, to be honest i've never use google docs so i don't know the i don't know that the benefits are or you know the pro's and con's forensics never used ninety percent of the time the features you use in word or Excel there there. And they work almost the same way you don't have a lot of that, you ready i'm them all your writing a letter you're right maybe the three page paper that does everything work wise. [22:37] Get some more complex stuff after that. Well we can't leave out the sensors write me i'll write this thing is coming with water for one of the ss reason in multiple colors you got cobalt blue you got to the burg any and of course to the keyboard has that opera tenor that as a whole nother level of a quality to the device the whole cameras that building yes know that if you check in the army for four device that size for them to to get the hell okay amber in that is huge authentication is so fast and smooth so, looking forward to that i got new glasses and mike mike that confused now will get, will talk to him later today to go to Costco and buy one of those deals on August 2nd cuz you can always return it. [24:03] But I just disagree okay that's fine disagreement and controversies always fun so tell us what you disagree with. [24:13] So I like the form factor with 10-inch tablet I have a sore. I have to had two of them okay you borrowed and broke one of them. You didn't break it and my friend has the other one I don't know if he's broken it okay. Find that marcus so beautifully served by android tablets that i just don't see the point. Talk a bit more about that nap for able to hold on to things on on. On prime day after the first half of prime day got to save a lot of money because the servers were down so that was nice good but. The tablet Market freaking people are buying pallets and ugly enough, even i pets people are buying up but the surface markets growing and will talk a bit more about that so i bake to differ and i think, can't run the same software the issue really comes down to running software. A lot of if how many people do you know that use tablets dated day in enterprise. [25:38] Tons tons airlines i was just out. Restaurant I said Enterprise, it's i think this is the market and van provide air every every cash register, the stasis at certainly small businesses but they're definitely all tablets the the thing i see with my ears of this is. Before Microsoft announced this there were a bunch of Windows 10 tablets up there 10-inch tablets that didn't sell well. That's traveling brought out another one and this one has kickstand but probably other one says don't. [26:55] What they did but in the arm shut which would make it a lease last longer. They didn't make it run some fancy to our position that doesn't exist it doesn't fold did you like your shirt. You're gonna by with on august second know of any you to buy when i second that he had the interview theft. All true true i'm with the lt and i'm waiting for my settlement from the tee sa will you be to buy with my money while you can return and get your money back. [27:46] Is he okay let's move on with the other is talk about being states been space right why is it so we've got, these things are called the what are they called there the a court tax a seventy six and they're targeting them at the. Devices be on phone. And they're gonna have all the wonderful arm goodness like instant on low-power good bat so good battery light coming out of it a low heat up and i think kevin was on to something that that might be what. Microsoft is waiting for for Andromeda. [28:50] No but the but the news is that there's some powerful arm ships coming. And i think that whole segment of the market is. Be in fucking interestingly served. So why bother to increase the go is released ago i ira i totally agree that there's potential right now. [29:26] Because are going for price points it's back to school is a timing issue i think they had at that replace the surface three, pair to those other low and tablet lol what columbus ten tablet for our t based on things like that or the dells your news we're adam based they were they didn't have the they didn't have first power that you're gonna get out of this they didn't have the store that didn't have the memory so i think you're getting a lot of hardware for the. Good price point where, release the sales at the stuff we should we would need to make a bet on this and how many will sell within a year but they don't, well hold on a second this is a perfect time for us to move on to our next piece of news from Microsoft your and is June 30th right so let's talk about Microsoft earnings date released earnings this week. Add for the fur. Across the hundred billion in annual sales actually 110 billion. Most highly capitalized companies the stock Sonterra let's talk about where some of those earning there. [30:47] Alright and I think that might answer part of your question so commercial Prime. That was their biggest piece and when you that that's been growing more than double digits in some cases triple digits in some years in the last little while some quarters commercial Dynamics bring okay, aka the future right result well the present and the future right it's still it's father bishop president a future yes right that's all idle i can talk but every every division that got that got. [31:20] The billion dollar businesses so anybody be jealous of that but still that really jumped out at me surface four point six billion. And when I visit the clients doubt they'll have surfaces. It's actually really picking up it's definitely not up for Trent so 4.6 billion. The surface Market is growing I think just having a device at surface logo it's not like it's not like people lining up out front of Apple stores for devices I think that us a surface at a lower price point could have some appeal to students. Is that a typo no wow 27 billion for them but still. [32:21] Well that's only once they find five times. [32:26] So did that's quite interesting there i'm not sure how that revenue work but just just a few highlights i think microsoft. For a few years made a series of bad decisions and the starting to make some good decisions and Shane them together for some decent success. Alright more news that we've been tracking this since for the Terry Myerson he said that Windows 10 would run a billion devices. Everybody put a time frame on it. [32:59] I think it was less either way two things 1 Terry Myerson Microsoft anymore recently. [33:09] They're not a billion devices so as of June active devices are just over 700 million and. [33:24] Batsa Windows 7 to 53.4% Windows 10 39.4% Windows 7. [33:33] And you're a year ago more than half a windows seven so jumped from thirty eight point six percent last year to fifty three point four percent this year. Here's the interesting ps here's a chrysalis still five point nine percent of people running windows eight acts for that is weird. They're getting close after 3 or so. Interesting. [34:33] Alright you thousand three servers a leather jacket yes course. And with the news here is an interesting. Tidbit so Walmart in Microsoft Forge an alliance for retail and Cloud. So two things here microsoft is working with walmart is part of their digital transformation doctor moving a lot of work closed asher as well. Better Walmart if I'm not mistaken is the world's largest retailer or is that was on the retailer I don't know how you measure that. [35:17] Or soften walmart together looking at them making some headway against amazon's. Looks like Unstoppable growth and dominance of the retail space. Wow interesting Kroger. [35:49] Uus grocery store I think anyway so that's something interesting and worth watching. [35:59] These companies have to do something different or they won't exist in 20 years. Yeah could i can get to the digital camera look at it now yeah the book but let me get sears sears has. Yes. Okay they could have been Amazon and they just weather fight it but they didn't all right so I think that's it for the news David. [36:44] Music. [36:53] All righty so that was a lot of abuse covered very. May your whirlwind basically. [37:07] Yes i have court turner actually mary jo fully is been talk, about this quite a bit talking about some improvements in Notepad. So Redstone 5 versions of Notepad. Does find rhapsody start the middle of your note pad is called document no pet six million file five hundred eleven search. Better support for large files in my number in other when right up to the door of market. Well the the way it handles line number in Yap and Munch. What are the four yeah so i not sure the line um improvements are but there's line number improvements and lots of new navigation options so is your to use that you have any rivers you wanted share with estimate. [38:23] Information about what it's become available okay so by the settings of chemical read that makes camera. Right so they're well known for the cameras that Guardians of the Galaxy was filled with. Hi due to the company that knows cameras and. [39:00] USBC Etc there's all sorts of. Is all sorts of Speck's here but the key is that it's going to be using some of their camera, so it might be yeah those guys that wanted the. Windows McLaren. It's supposed to be well over $1,200, no line yes another word for three take a look around and behind pictures i don't know. [39:38] At six in a few years ago but he was just brought the camper but now. Would never hit the mass Market with that just a camera people wanted it built into the phone so we can do it all with social Run apps and stuff on it so interesting that they would do that. Sunny and gorgeous outside right now. The Microsoft they put their name on a nice tablet. Small for businesses but. [40:40] But everytime they brought out a device that they've done well with. It has been significantly different how was how was the surface laptop different except for the surface laptop how was the surface, it is quite a bit a hundred percent of different 10% different. A nice Dell laptop that would be exactly the same except for the. Did they just won't bother. [41:49] Okay and so you you want you to where the rant is due. And I need to do it soon I education Market I think Kevin had it nailed there I'm going to disagree with you on that day. What was the only year or lessee alright anything else you wanna cover. [42:23] I think that's good alright well then let's light off okay. [42:31] Everyone have a nice sunny hot summer day keep your stinky ass while you're on the on the beach keep your stick on the ice. [42:41] Music. [42:51] Follow the show on Twitter at surface Smith email the show at podcast that service ms.com check out the show notes and leave a comment on www. [43:04] Others find out about the show by leaving a review on it. [43:07] Music. [43:26] So what are you got to share this David I obviously I'm not in the same room as you I've got something a little different you know what we were really really bad how many times did we say the word of the week. [43:40] Oh a lot so here's the word makers cuz I'm trying to make her 46 and make that we didn't say make or at all in that episode, you got to Maker's Mark which 146 Maker's 46, you gotta get the box cuz yeah well they only sold the business so i'm not up god got a calling fine oak fifteen year old. Fullest interesting person the back of the bottle it says it, what they say even the sky. Will them and i'm afraid is a pot. Possibly remember the guy we met for the work for makers. [45:03] Cool so let's see what they are good friend jim murray has to say about this. Is i think makers mark i find it sweet no more, yeah yes so makers forty six crush toasted hazelnuts. It's her up and initially thick. Excellent weight as those honeycomb notes go into overdrive. Adopting a weedy and Oakey spices. Which cranks up the points surprisingly light and. [46:26] This guy is all about the nose and especially the delivery so so much controls honey on the on the snow on the show sorry. Kathy cannot be anything other than a showstopper frankly magnificent I think I've met my makers. Hey Google I do like that that's a good so good whiskey I'm going to go with my McAllen okay. Could talk about do we need have a moment of silence oh yes well and it should go this moment of remembrance cuz lancaster when wanted that air fuck is be telling people why. So i was there about having pas there replay back area there's a big kentucky bourbons go still. [47:18] So where was this Warehouse. Yeah parts in kentucky okay in a warehouse is he interesting that's it just look like a big industrial building with of c one made out of wood was anyone her and. [47:53] Injuries doesn't say but that's but there are no in yours off. Concerns of the home of the sea into the ground whatever your alley that has the can back the over the frat boys they'll showed up so i send. What's the going to be on site to collect mothers saying all stop course they history of bourbon. Add Water rub it down. [48:43] Alright. [48:58] 92 is the year the Kentucky join the Union. I mean. [49:35] A1 [49:44] Yeah I would rather go with a few smaller buildings. [50:15] This is interesting to see justin of a belly and and we hop in the past about how. This is the age quicker than a whisky because or scotch whisky because the temperature of the the aging process bought this building it wont get hot inside. Same whiskey but which floor and which side of the building it was on because it would either you warmer or hotter, you made less humid if you'd north side of her third floor preferences and they actually would do that. [50:57] Rans like what like buffalo trace. Yeah those two confused but one of them that she has not grown Distillery they have something to make it and they they say we want a specific side of the building a specific floor for The Ragin. Some consistency year-to-year yeah. [51:24] And when the guy emailed you back about the Maker's 46. It's not a 10 year old bourbon almost Bourbons don't have an HD. I think there's a rule that has to be at least 3 weeks old. I thought that was the Whiskey and in the state. [51:59] So what you build distilling and drinking it as fast as it runs for. Yeah I'm around all of August except for the last weekend I'm going to New York for a few days take me to go visit his son Yankees game take the kids. [52:23] Disappeared. [52:38] A low-cut filter on your line then no kill all them air conditioning everything. [52:45] What i do that you miss physical hooker value to suffer filter. [53:10] If you get back bring the zoom with you cuz it has it has a it has a high pass filter which Cuts all that background Rebel just cut it right at all they know as well. Not going to call me and has batteries in that sense it is but this is maybe fifty percent bigger well rough usb actually. This is about twice as big maybe problem. [54:25] We could go to a restaurant that there's that would cook it for us but I'll grab it I got over a hundred pounds of fish. Yes to the captain fellated all for us and cut it and we go to restaurant the car just $12 ahead we got unlimited soft drinks, for the kids and adults but I think we got. Is you go capris yeah that was down in marathon florida like fishing salt all over got some nice fish good, sure after I get off and then we'll talk.