It's hard to get a read on where relations stand between Donald Trump and the Colombian leader Gustavo Petro... a couple of days ago they were trading insults and threats – now they've had a phone call and are planning a meeting.

But tensions remain high in Latin America – as the US forges ahead with its claims on Venezuelan oil – and with threats hanging in the air that Gustavo Petro could ultimately suffer the same fate as Nicolas Maduro – the Venezuelan leader deposed by the US at the weekend.

• Guest: Beth Dickinson, Deputy Director for Latin America at the International Crisis Group
• Producer: Anne Barker