After I had wrapped up the interview with Kelsey Hightower for episode 43, I asked him one last question.

You see, I admire the his presentation style.

His answer is so thoughtful and makes so much sense, I couldn't keep it to myself.

I'm releasing this as a bonus mini-episode so that it's easy to refer back to the next time you or I have a chance to do a technical talk.

Special Guest: Kelsey Hightower.

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I first heard Kelsey speak during his 2017 PyCon keynote.

We discuss testing, of course, but we take it further and discuss:

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I first heard Kelsey speak during his 2017 PyCon keynote.

We discuss testing, of course, but we take it further and discuss:

Special Guest: Kelsey Hightower.

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• PyCharm ProfessionalIf you value your time, you owe it to yourself to try PyCharm.

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This interview with Trey Hunner discusses his use of automated tests to help teach programming.

Automated testing is a huge part of developing great software. But many new developers don't get exposed to testing for quite a while. But this is changing.

New ways to teach programming include automated tests from the beginning.

Trey Hunner is one of the PSF directors and a Python and Django team trainer, and he has been using automated tests to help people learn Python.

Special Guest: Trey Hunner.

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• Trey Hunner
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This interview with Trey Hunner discusses his use of automated tests to help teach programming.

Automated testing is a huge part of developing great software. But many new developers don't get exposed to testing for quite a while. But this is changing.

New ways to teach programming include automated tests from the beginning.

Trey Hunner is one of the PSF directors and a Python and Django team trainer, and he has been using automated tests to help people learn Python.

Special Guest: Trey Hunner.

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• Python BytesGet the latest Python news with the Python Bytes Podcast.
• Talk Python to MeGet the back story and hear about the human side of the Python things you love with the Talk Python to Me Podcast

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• Trey Hunner
• Python Morsels - write better Python code
• Trey's Weekly Python Chat
• Trey's Training business: Truthful Technology
• exercism.io
• PyBites Code Challenges
• CheckiO

We talk with Anthony Shaw about some of the testing problems facing both DevOps teams, and Agile teams. We also talk about his recent pull request accepted into pytest.

Special Guest: Anthony Shaw.

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• Python Testing with pytest, 2nd edition: The fastest way to learn pytest and practical testing practices.
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• Anthony Shaw on github.io
• Support for the new builtin breakpoint function in Python 3.7 by tonybaloney · Pull Request #3331 · pytest-dev/pytest

We talk with Anthony Shaw about some of the testing problems facing both DevOps teams, and Agile teams. We also talk about his recent pull request accepted into pytest.

Special Guest: Anthony Shaw.

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• Python Testing with pytestSimple, Rapid, Effective, and Scalable

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• Anthony Shaw on github.io
• Support for the new builtin breakpoint function in Python 3.7 by tonybaloney · Pull Request #3331 · pytest-dev/pytest

Adam is the host of The Gently Mad podcast, and teaches the steps in creating and growing a podcast in his course Irresistible Podcasting.

He was one of the people who inspired Brian to get the Test & Code podcast started in the first place. Brian took his course in 2015. Adam is in the process of updating the course, and building a community around it.

Warning: This may be an episode to listen to with headphones if you have kids around. There is swearing.

I wanted to get Adam's help to convince many of you to either come on this show as a guest, or start your own podcast. We did some of that. But we also cover a lot of issues like self doubt and the importance of community.

Special Guest: Adam Clark.

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• Python Testing with pytest, 2nd edition: The fastest way to learn pytest and practical testing practices.
• Patreon Supporters: Help support the show with as little as $1 per month and be the first to know when new episodes come out.

Links:

• Irresistible Podcasting – A Step by Step Guide to Launching and Growing a Podcast that Can’t Be Ignored
• The Gently Mad – Life, business & entrepreneurship without the bullshit.
• avclark.com
• Justin Jacksons episodes on minimal podcasting | Build and Launch
• Dan Benjamin's Podcast Method podcast
• Python Bytes Podcast
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• Shure SM57 Mic
• Shure SM7B mic
• dbx 286s Microphone Preamp Processor
• Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 USB Audio Interface

Adam is the host of The Gently Mad podcast, and teaches the steps in creating and growing a podcast in his course Irresistible Podcasting.

He was one of the people who inspired Brian to get the Test & Code podcast started in the first place. Brian took his course in 2015. Adam is in the process of updating the course, and building a community around it.

Warning: This may be an episode to listen to with headphones if you have kids around. There is swearing.

I wanted to get Adam's help to convince many of you to either come on this show as a guest, or start your own podcast. We did some of that. But we also cover a lot of issues like self doubt and the importance of community.

Special Guest: Adam Clark.

Sponsored By:

• Python Testing with pytestSimple, Rapid, Effective, and Scalable

Support Test & Code - Software Testing, Development, Python

Links:

• Irresistible Podcasting – A Step by Step Guide to Launching and Growing a Podcast that Can’t Be Ignored
• The Gently Mad – Life, business & entrepreneurship without the bullshit.
• avclark.com
• Justin Jacksons episodes on minimal podcasting | Build and Launch
• Dan Benjamin's Podcast Method podcast
• Python Bytes Podcast
• ATR2100 Mic
• Shure SM57 Mic
• Shure SM7B mic
• dbx 286s Microphone Preamp Processor
• Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 USB Audio Interface

Complete and exhaustive testing is not possible. Nor would it be fun, or maintainable, or a good use of your time.

However, some functionality is important enough to make sure the test behavior coverage is thorough enough to have high confidence in it's quality.

In this episode, we discuss 3 techniques that can be combined to quickly generate test cases. We then talk about how to implement them efficiently in pytest.

The techniques covered are:

We discuss how to use these to generate test cases for a new list filter functionality in the cards application.

The resulting tests:

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• Python Testing with pytest, 2nd edition: The fastest way to learn pytest and practical testing practices.
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• github cards project (version 0.1.11)
• Equivalence partitioning - Wikipedia
• Boundary-value analysis - Wikipedia
• Decision table - Wikipedia
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• DJ YANiC - The awesome listener that contributed our theme music.