John is joined by Taylor Dahlin and Ryan Brown for an uncomfortable Thanksgiving conversation about the state of the online world. John and Taylor have been doing double duty on both bluesky and twitter in recent weeks. Ryan wonders if he'll ever post again, as he tries to figure out what he wants from social media. We talk about the ups and downs of both platforms and try to convince Ryan to join us on bluesky as soon as possible. Plus, John wonders why his police chief pec popping video didn't get traction on either platform; and responds to Adam Platt's sorrowful parting shot at migrants to bluesky. And Taylor mercilessly attacks the people and culture of bluesky, while John only sees a vibrant and growing local community of posters.

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