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In this episode, Andy and JT dive into the topic of parenting. With JT in the throes of parenthood and Andy waving from the other side, they discuss their common experiences at the start and what principles they carry/carried.

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[2:05] - What comes to your mind when you think about parenting?

[4:08] - The Torrence Family

[14:40] - Andy isn't the baby-holder

[16:40] - Coming home from the hospital

[21:05] - What were your initial anxieties?

[26:40] - What's your vision?

[30:25] - Legacy

[33:30] - What burdens do you have?

[35:04] - You can't control their faith

[38:07] - What does JT look like on a bad parenting day?

[40:36] - What does Andy look like on a bad parenting day?

[44:50] - Thoughts for parents who are overwhelmed

In this episode, Andy and JT dive into the topic of friendship. So many people feel alone and don't know how to make friends or how to deal with the loss of friends. They go back and forth with principles we need to hold heavily as we pursue friendship with one another.

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[2:45] - Defining friendship

[10:15] - What do you do when people don't want to be friends with you?

[12:15] - Social Media

[15:41] - "Made For Friendship" by Drew Hunter

[22:15] - Losing friends

[27:59] - Brothers and sisters

[32:32] - The idolatry of friendship

[42:44] - Walking in the light

[45:28] - Confession

[53:32] - What are your problems with friendship in this generation?

[59:18] - Friendship in ministry

Jared Torrence preaches on the topic of gospel unity followed by a panel discussion including Andy Farmer and Jared Mellinger.

This week we welcome Cassie Juste to the podcast to continue talking about historical laws. Cassie walks us through laws from the early 1900s to the modern day. It is difficult to come to terms with the fact that these laws are part of our recent history, but it's important to wrestle with the implications that these laws have on our lives today.

In this episode, Andy and JT talk about cell phones. They dive into the history of getting them and make fun of each other's likes/dislikes when it comes to this useful tool that is so easily misused.

Continuing our conversation with Tim Shorey on his book "Respect The Image," Andy and JT turn the conversation towards talking about what it's like to pastor a multi-ethnic church with a multi-ethnic leadership team. Listen as they discuss some of the benefits of experiencing diversity in the context of the church.

In this episode, Andy and JT interview Timothy Shorey about his new book Respect the Image: Reflecting Human Worth in how We Listen and Talk. 

They dig deep into why the principles laid out in the book are important and it leads them into a broader conversation about how we ought to relate with friends, family, and our church.

Read the book here

Andy Farmer preaches on the topic of redemption followed by a panel discussion including Jared Torrence and Jared Mellinger. 

Andy and JT celebrate the lives of some unsung heroes in the African American community. These are individuals that lived lives worthy of being known today and they each take time to share these powerful stories. Andy's hero is Henry Ossawa Tanner, an accomplished painter. JT's hero is Vivien Thomas, the man now credited for the breakthrough in heart surgery. 

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[2:08] - Shoutout to Yasuke the African samurai

[3:18] - JT's unsung hero: Vivien Thomas

[11:38] - Doing post-doctorate work on a janitor's salary

[14:56] - Falling out

[16:24] - Legacy

[18:00] - Takeaways

[19:40] - How do you interpret Dr. Blalock's actions?

[24:01] - Andy's unsung hero: Henry Ossawa Tanner

[26:11] - Started painting

[27:54] - Painting biblical scenes

[32:30] - He had a sincere and enduring faith that shaped his art

[35:00] - Life long struggles to create a space for himself

[36:55] - He wanted to love his country

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Like Something The Lord Made (Article)

Something The Lord Made (Movie)

Daniel in the Lions Den (Painting)

Resurrection of Lazarus (Painting)

Portrait of Henry O Tanner's Mother (Painting)

In this episode, we continue the conversation with Cassie Juste on historical laws. Cassie Juste is an accomplished attorney who has spent time studying historical laws that have shape the foundations of our society. Andy and JT interview her as she walks us some pivotal legislation that shaped our country.

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[0:45] - The Emancipation Proclamation 

[3:54] - Juneteenth

[5:36] - Mass Incarceration

[7:12] - Citizenship

[8:31] - Reconstruction

[15:52] - Black codes

[18:40] - The black Church amidst adversity