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  • Episode 16: Historical Laws feat Cassie Juste (Part One)

    In this episode, we are excited to welcome our first guest! Cassie Juste is an accomplished attorney who has spent time studying historical laws that have shape the foundations of our society. Andy and JT interview her as she walks us through history and the laws throughout.

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    [2:12] - Introducing Cassie Juste

    [2:55] - History of laws

    [3:44] - Historical laws that are good to be aware of

    [4:48] - Laws that prohibit marraige

    [6:02] - The Declaration of Independence (1700s)

    [8:45] - Early 1800s

    [11:07] - Big picture thoughts

    [13:54] - How do these laws get passed?

    [16:02] - These laws affected more than just African Americans

    [18:35] - This wasn't that long ago

     

    20 min
  • Episode 15: Three Reasons Why The Black Church Matters (Part Two)

    In this two-part episode, Andy and JT give three (+30) reasons why the black Church matters to black and white evangelicals today. They dig into the history of the black Church and share what traits we should emulate as reformed evangelicals. 

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    [0:40] - It's the same Church

    [3:40] - White evangelicals need to dig into history

    [5:00] - Dr. George Kelsey

    [6:35] - Charles Octavius Boothe

    [8:50] - Black pastors were politicians 

    [11:26] - Consider some of the major biblical themes the black church prioritizes

    [12:10] - The Exodus theme led to communal thinking

    [15:16] - We need to be vibrant in prayer and worship

    [16:30] - We need eschatological hope

    [18:08] - Speaking truth without fear of being cancelled

    [22:40] - Church membership

    [24:30] - We need to learn how to be oppressed and hold onto the gospel

    29 min
  • Episode 14: Three Reasons Why The Black Church Matters (Part 1)

    In this two-part episode, Andy and JT give three (+30) reasons why the black Church matters to black and white evangelicals today. They dig into the history of the black Church and share what traits we should emulate as reformed evangelicals. 

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    [2:40] - What is the black Church?

    [5:30] - Elevated kingdom mentality

    [6:35] - The AME Church

    [8:35] - Addressing why more people are leaving the historic black church

    [11:04] - Mindful of liberation

    [12:11] - Be thankful for the black Church

    [13:15] - Dr. Walter Strickland podcast episode (https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/podcasts/as-in-heaven/historical-developments-of-the-black-church/)

    [15:40] - What should we learn from the black Church?

    [16:08] - A commitment to hope in suffering

    [16:50] - Community presence

    [21:15] - The celebratory nature of the gospel of Jesus Christ

    25 min
  • Episode 13: Biblical & Historical Context of Justice

    In this episode, Andy and JT talk about what the Old Testament says on the topic of justice. They walk through Exodus and some other sections in the Old Testament and discuss how they should shape our perspective of the Christians' call today.

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    [1:56] - Words are a social construct

    [3:24] - Use the bible to interpret the rest of the world

    [5:09] - Injustice in Exodus

    [7:36] - Christians should focus on redemption in injustice

    [9:08] - Historical perspective

    [10:42] - Imposed injustice

    [13:10] - Injustice in David's life

    [15:49] - It's a privilege to live in a country where change can happen

    [17:49] - Tension between pessimism and optimism

    [19:17] - Exodus tells us how to treat the sojourner

    [21:01] - This is not our home

    [21:32] - The Church

    [22:36] - It's the same Church

    [25:40] - Future episodes on History 

    28 min
  • Episode 11: Music - Formative Albums (Part Three)

    In this episode, Andy and JT finish up their series on formative albums that shaped their lives. Tune in for some funny stories and some solid album suggestions.

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    [4:50] - At Home With Owen by Owen

    [9:55] - Comes a Time by Neil Young

    [14:43] - The Midnight Oregon Fight by Frightened Rabbit

    [22:38] - My Aim Is True by Elvis Costello 

    [27:36] - The Mocker and the Monarch by Taelor Gray

    [32:52] - Winterlands 1978 by Bruce Springsteen

    44 min
  • Episode 10: Music - Formative Albums (Part Two)

    In this episode, Andy and JT talk about six more albums for their music series. Just sit back, relax, and laugh at these stories about Angry Andy and Emo Jared as they share a bit about themselves through their music tastes. 

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    [1:49] - Andy album one - "Cosmos Factory" by Creedance Clearwater Revival 

    [6:05] - JT album one - "The First Days of Spring" by Noah And The Whale

    [11:32] - Andy album two - "Who's Next" by The Who 

    [15:45] - JT album two - "Strict Joy" by The Swell Season

    [23:24] - Andy album three - "Eat A Peach" by Allman Brothers Band

    [29:12] - JT album three - "Sonshine" by Swoop

    38 min
  • Episode 9: Experience and Spaces

    In this episode, JT talks about what it's like being a minority pastor in a predominately white church. It opened up the door for a powerful conversation about struggles he has faced along with some powerful application that every person should hear. 

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    [2:10] - Spaces: The Church

    [3:20] - I love the church

    [3:55] - Book One: Outside Insider by Bryan Loritts

    [5:20] - Book Two: Weep With Me by Mark Vroegop

    [5:55] - Excerpt from Weep With Me

    [7:35] - Common experience

    [10:35] - Cuts deeper when it comes from the church

    [11:58] - This is more than politics for me

    [12:52] - Rejected for speaking out

    [14:40] - What made you decide to make this church your home?

    [16:36] - Wise words from Shai Linne

    [18:20] - The gospel is big enough

    [20:40] - Church members need to pioneer too

    [23:50] - How do you keep the eye on the prize?

    [26:00] - We all have something to offer

    [28:20] - Experience is not just occasional

    [30:00] - The picture of heaven

    [31:40] - Closing comments/book recommendations

     

     

    36 min
  • Episode 8: Music - Formative Albums (Part One)

    Andy and JT want to share a bit about themselves by telling you about music that has shaped their lives. They each created lists of albums and unpack them in this series to be continued. 

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    [4:25] - Introduction

    [6:38] - Andy 1: Greatest Hits by Three Dog Night

    [10:22] - Jared 1: Illinois by Sufjian Stevens

    [15:44] - Andy 2: Abbey Road by The Beatles

    [20:03] - Jared 2: The Narrative by Sho Baraka

    [29:10] - Two songs that will minister to your soul as a parent

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    Three Dog Night (Greatest Hits): https://open.spotify.com/album/15dcVrftyyS9a0cD7QcTm2?si=7-JNvfFKRNOh9QDTtemJ0g

    Sufjian Stevens (Illinois): https://open.spotify.com/album/7j8lfKDdL7vE8OAM4cA3W3?si=g2HYML96SPSBpfjJ7VtDCg

    The Beatles (Abbey Road): https://open.spotify.com/album/0ETFjACtuP2ADo6LFhL6HN?si=vBjGZrQGQPKiVM18D9I98Q 

    Sho Baraka (The Narrative): https://open.spotify.com/album/5BsScM9mlXSIhGsUwy8Yiv?si=6vcjxytYSvWvZhElPP7ElA 

    34 min
  • Episode 7: The Glory of God

    In this episode we are taking a break from hot-button topics and focusing on the glory of God. This is being released one day after the 2020 election and we NEED to ground ourselves in the foundation of our faith. We tap into a resource we've provided the church with a teaching and a panel discussion on something fundamental. 

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    Preaching

    [1:15] - Intro and glory of God

    [3:35] - Glory is who God is… 
    [8:20] - The Glory of Me and first application point
    [13:03] - 2nd application point to end

    Panel

    [16:54] - First panel question
    [20:36] - We have proven ourselves… 
    [21:39] - The joy of justice
    [22:31] - God has a good purpose
    [24:51] - Can you kneel or stand during the national anthem?
    [29:52] - Tribalism
    [33:36] - Jared Mellinger closing thought

    36 min

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Friends and pastors Jared Torrence & Andy Farmer bring you That Don’t Fit Podcast. They are dedicated to talking about life and life’s real issues that cross racial and generational lines. They…