That Said with Talia Schlanger

Why are powerful people so concerned with what artists can and can’t say? Talia Schlanger sits down with comedian and free speech advocate Judy Gold to discuss censorship, comedy, and why attacks on artistic expression should concern everyone. Judy shares stories from her book “Yes, I Can Say That: When They Come for the Comedians, We Are All in Trouble.” She also reflects on what she learned working on The Rosie O’Donnell Show in the late 90s, and what it’s been like at this moment in history to feel abandoned by some of the communities she’s marched alongside.

And for Article Club, author and cultural critic Isaac Butler tells Talia about his piece “How 2 Live Crew Won the Right to Be As Nasty As They Wanna Be” for Slate Magazine, which details the very first time in US history that an album was deemed obscene by the courts. Isaac explores the long history of rap music being censored and what those efforts reveal about power, politics, and culture. Isaac’s article is adapted from his new book “The Perfect Moment: God, Sex, Art, and the Birth of America's Culture Wars.”
 

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What makes a community feel like home? Acclaimed singer-songwriter William Prince joins Talia Schlanger to reflect on growing up on the Peguis First Nation, the lessons he's carried forward from his family and community, and the parts of his past he's had to unlearn. William shares stories about grief, identity, belonging, and the power of storytelling, drawing on themes from his latest album Further From the Country. Together, they explore what it means to be shaped by the place you come from.

And for Article Club, Talia talks to writer Jessica Barrett about her The Walrus article “Bad Housing Is Turning Us Into Bad Neighbours.”As modern housing design and social habits increasingly keep people apart, Jessica examines what happens when we stop getting to know the people next door. Together, they explore how neighbourhoods shape our relationships, why community matters more than ever, and what the loss of everyday connection could mean for society as a whole.
 

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What happens when internet fame doesn't make you feel any less alone? Musician and viral sensation bbno$ joins Talia Schlanger for the very first episode of That Said. With more than a billion streams and millions of followers, bbno$ has built a massive career online—but away from the memes and viral moments, he’s confronting questions about isolation, ambition, and what it means to be fulfilled. He talks candidly about loneliness, antidepressants, work-life balance, money, and what social media is doing to our mental health. He also reflects on the injury that changed the course of his life and ultimately led him to music.

And for Article Club, Talia goes deeper on the topic of connection and talks to writer and researcher Jane Ruffino about her journey aboard a cable repair ship in the Atlantic Ocean. In her WIRED article, “Say Goodbye to the Undersea Cable That Made the Global Internet Possible” Jane explores the little-known world of the crews responsible for maintaining the vast network of undersea cables that carry much of the world’s internet traffic. Together, they discuss the invisible infrastructure that keeps us connected—and the people whose work makes modern life possible.

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Welcome to a show that doesn’t skim the surface. That Said with Talia Schlanger is where intelligence and curiosity meet great conversation. Join us for in-depth interviews with artists, celebrities and public figures about their work, their life and the ideas shaping how they see the world. 

Plus, there’s Article Club: a thoughtful deep dive into a must-read piece of writing, unpacking the cultural conversation behind it all. 

That Said is an invitation to slow down, think deeply and spend time with ideas that stick.

Talia Schlanger is a broadcaster, writer, producer, and musician. She is the former host of the NPR-distributed radio show World Cafe, and has been frequently heard across Canada on CBC. Her critically acclaimed debut album Grace for the Going is out on all platforms.

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