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Nick Cook returns to the podcast to discuss the launch of the EXO Institute, why he believes the biggest barrier to change is not technology but consciousness, and why we may be approaching a major shift in how we understand reality.

We talk about EXO’s goals, the overlap between consciousness and anomalous phenomena, the modern UAP conversation, political promises of more disclosure, the UK versus US approach to the topic, and the deeper patterns Nick believes sit beneath the mystery.

Nick is a former Jane’s Defence Weekly editor and the author of The Hunt for Zero Point. In this conversation, he lays out why he thinks we are on the cusp of something very different and very new.

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Donald Trump says UFO material is coming, Anna Paulina Luna keeps pointing people to the Book of Enoch, and the missing scientists story continues to raise serious questions.

In this latest news update, Andy, joined by 'Others from another mother' host, Dan Cleary, breaks down the biggest talking points in UFO disclosure right now, including the promised files and videos, the role of Jeremy Corbell, the religious angle creeping further into the conversation, and whether any of this is building towards a genuine turning point.

A big, thought-provoking discussion on where the UFO topic stands right now.

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Andy is joined by researcher and author Patrick Jackson to discuss his controversial Sphere Network theory. In this conversation, Patrick lays out his belief that poltergeist activity, luminous spheres and a much wider hidden system may all be connected. The discussion covers his early experiences, the case that pushed him toward this line of research, how he believes these spheres behave, why he thinks they form a hidden network, and how that theory fits into the broader UFO conversation. Andy also challenges Patrick on how he vets sightings, public cases that may be misidentified, and why he believes more people may begin seeing these objects in the years ahead.

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In this news update, Andy is joined by Dan to discuss Bob Lazar’s return to the headlines, the new S4 documentary, and the fallout from the Chuck Clark footage finally appearing online. They get into whether the film adds anything genuinely new, how Lazar’s story has evolved over time, and why the newly surfaced clip has left so many people arguing over what it really shows. Also in this episode: Anna Paulina Luna’s request for 46 videos, the latest missing scientist discussion, and Kacey Musgraves’ alleged orb sighting.

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Whitley Strieber returns to That UFO Podcast to discuss Transformation 2026, and this is one of the most personal and unsettling conversations we’ve had.

Whitley reflects on the terrifying night he believed his young son had been taken, the wider impact these experiences had on his family, and why he feels the world may be moving toward a form of disclosure that will affect far more than politics. We also get into hybrids, telepathy, trauma, religion, consciousness, and what life could look like in a genuine post-disclosure world.

Whether you agree with Whitley or not, this is a fascinating deep dive into one of the most controversial voices in the UFO conversation.

In this episode:

The night Whitley thought his son had been taken
Why he brought Transformation back in 2026
How these experiences affected his family
His thoughts on disclosure and ontological shock
Why he rejects the idea that the visitors are simply demonic or angelic
Hybrids, telepathy, and the long-term human implications of contact

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In Part 2 of my conversation with Skinwalker Ranch biologist Ben Woodruff, we go deeper into some of the strangest claims connected to the ranch.

Ben discusses portals, cryptid sightings, unusual animal behaviour, cattle mutilation theories, supposed time anomalies, and the biological effects he says have been observed on the property. We also get into the dire wolf story, DNA questions, black jaguar claims, and the challenge of separating genuine anomalies from misidentifications, lens flares, and exaggeration.

This is the more detailed and more controversial half of the discussion, as Ben lays out where he thinks the strongest evidence sits, what he believes skeptics get wrong, and why some of the most interesting questions around Skinwalker Ranch are still unresolved.

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Ben Woodruff joins me to talk about his background as a biologist, his own childhood UFO sighting, and how he ended up working on Skinwalker Ranch before the TV series began.

In Part 1, we get into what Ben says he experienced during his earliest time on the ranch, including strange voices, unsettling activity inside the ranch house, and the biological anomalies that first made him realise this place was different. We also discuss the balance between real science and television, what frustrates him about NDA restrictions, and a remarkable story involving one of his trained falcons that he says disappeared in front of them during an experiment on the ranch.

This is a fascinating opening half of a conversation that builds from personal experience into some of the biggest claims Ben says he has witnessed firsthand.

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On the 60th anniversary of the Westall incident, I’m re-releasing this conversation with researcher Shane Ryan, originally recorded in December 2022.

Shane has spent years investigating one of the most remarkable mass sighting cases in UFO history: the 1966 Westall event in Melbourne, Australia, where students, teachers, and others reported seeing strange flying saucer-shaped objects over and near the school grounds.

In this interview, Shane breaks down what witnesses said they saw, the reported aftermath on the ground, the response from authorities, and why the case still stands as one of the most important and debated schoolyard UFO encounters ever reported.

If you’re new to the Westall case, or want to revisit one of the most compelling incidents from outside the United States, this is a great place to start.

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On this episode of That UFO Podcast, Andy is joined by Dan Zetterstrom to break down one of the busiest weeks in the UFO space.

They get into Matt Gaetz and the alien hybrid briefing claims, Tim Burchett’s latest comments about what he says would keep the public up at night, and Anna Paulina Luna’s push for specific UAP videos from Pete Hegseth by April 14th. They also discuss the mystery around General Neil McCasland, the strange appearance of aliens.gov, Bill Maher’s recent UFO segment, new projects linked to Steven Greer and Bob Lazar, and the latest on Steven Spielberg’s Disclosure Day movie.

A wide ranging news roundup with plenty to dig into. 

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Andy is joined by documentary filmmaker Darcy Weir to discuss his film Dark Alliance: The Inside Story of the Cosmic Con and the wider world of Secret Space Program claims, Corey Goode, David Wilcock and the ecosystem that has grown around some of the biggest personalities in ufology.

They talk about why these stories gain traction, the crossover between entertainment and belief, the role of platforms like Gaia, and how difficult it can be for audiences to separate genuine mystery from elaborate storytelling. They also touch on Steven Greer, Chris Bledsoe, Bob Lazar, whistleblowers, and why critical thinking matters more than ever in a space where extraordinary claims continue to spread.

This is a conversation about belief, influence, exploitation, and the parts of the UFO topic that deserve much closer scrutiny.

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