For this episode, we have twice the amount of Matts that are usually on That's Discussing. We're tackling, with respect and grace, the awful music that was made in response to the terror attacks of September 11th, 2001.

We're here with episode four of That's Discussing! with a Matt substitute. Creel is here to discuss with Sean our undying affection for Jay Mohr's career and everything it's brought to the American zeitgeist of popular culture and what it means to live.

While those among us with lesser constitution (Sean) choose to express knee-jerk outrage at everything the President does, the stronger (Matt) take it at face value. Not the case with Donald Trump's recent attacks on Puerto Rican American citizens undergoing a humanitarian crisis. We welcome Frank as our guest who talks a lot about The Substitute, the movie.

Matt and Sean chat with you briefly of what That's Discussing is going to be, which is a rambling, tangent-drenched journey of two people furiously agreeing at each other. Cheers.

That's Discussing is our catch-all, miscellaneous podcast where we talk about everything unrealated to college football and bad poetry. Also: college football and bad poetry