Low-hanging fruit is great. But sometimes, you need a high-effort, high-impact program to make a splash in the market.

In this episode, Susan and Jess share their top big-whale marketing efforts that actually pay off — and WHY they're worth the investment.

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What would you do if ...

- You see an uptick in organic traffic, but not conversions?
- Someone asks, "Should we bid on our own branded keywords?"
- You have multiple products and personas, but a small marketing team?
- You want to try to replicate some of your LinkedIn ads success on Facebook?

In this episode, Susan and Jess throw these hypothetical marketing situations at each other and talk through the best ways to handle them.

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Alexa Kilroy — the Director of Marketing at Stay AI, and former Head of Brand at Triple Whale — has a consistent, tenacious grip on what's new, what's working, and what's not in the world of DTC and e-comm marketing.

She joined Jess on the pod to talk about:

• Her non-linear path from high school teacher to tech marketer
• The marketing tactics that are working for Stay AI right now
• Why interactive content needs to be part of your marketing mix
• How to quickly test if a big bet will pay off or not
• What standout ad creative really means
• And why relying on atypical results in case studies can actually backfire

We all want to be one of the rockstars in our marketing org. Someone who operates with confidence, and knows the next right step. The person who knows how best to work with everyone, who everyone wants to work with.

In this episode, Jess and Susan share the 4 skills they feel:
1) make you stand out from the rest of the marketing team, and
2) signal that you're ready to level up in your role — no matter where you sit in marketing.

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Amrita Mathur is a badass. As the VP of Marketing at ClickUp and former VP of Marketing at Superside, she knows exactly what it takes to grow teams and revenue at high-growth, high-value startups.

After Wayne-ing and Garth-ing out a bit (we're not worthy!) Jess and Susan chatted with Amrita about:

• Her 30/60/90 plan at ClickUp [4:37]
• Why every marketing team needs someone with an economist's brain [10:33]
• Why Payback Period is her one metric to rule them all [12:44]
• How she thinks about pipe and fuel instead of  organic and paid [22:30]
• How her team at Superside balanced quality, creativity, and speed  [24:35]
• Where to begin with content when you're starting from nothing [31:39]
• What to do when a program fails [39:13]

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Susan and Jess have made a lot of mistakes in their day. In this episode, they share the email marketing no-nos they've learned the hard way, so you don't have to. 

You'll hear:

• How to find your brand's most performant frequency
• Why you don't want as many people on your email list as possible
• How the right sender can boost your open rates
• The big difference between B2C and B2B email tactics

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Our first guest of season two is the inimitable Mike King. As one of the world's foremost authorities on all things SEO and generative AI, Mike came to school us on:

• The disconnect between Google and SEO tools [00:04:10]
• The importance of focusing on user needs and creating content that aligns with different stages of the customer journey, rather than solely targeting specific keywords [00:10:31] 
• 3 powerful pieces of low-hanging SEO fruit marketers should pay attention to, but don't [00:16:39]
• 2 simple ways to construct better prompts (plus the outsized impact of a MEGA PROMPT) [21:07]

Mike King on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelkingphilly/
AIPRM: https://www.aiprm.com/
iPullRank: https://ipullrank.com/
The Science of SEO on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Science-SEO-Decoding-Search-Algorithms/dp/1119844835

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The paid influencer trend is steadily making its way into the B2B space — and that's a good thing! Spreading the word about your brand and product is much more powerful coming from a trusted human than it is a faceless company page.

In this episode, Susan and Jess discuss:

• How to Identify and work with the people inside your company who have credibility and expertise in your brand's space.
• How to find and partner with those outside your company whose following and POV align with your brand's.
• What influencers — internal and external — need from you in order to create the most persuasive content possible.

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Jess and Susan get real meta with their season 2 opener. This episode is all about launch day — what to do before, during, and after a product launch to make as impactful a splash as possible. 

You'll hear:

• How to make sure your launch message will resonate BEFORE you spend a single dollar on media
• Why a creative centerpiece can help make it look like you're EVERYWHERE
• How to use first-party research to support your product launch
• Why your paid ads and your landing page should be a matching set

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They're baaaack! 

After taking the summer off to feed their kids no less than 47 snacks a day, Susan and Jess are back on the mic — and ready to dish on all things B2B marketing — starting Monday, September 11.