That's Passion

@planetmarfa
planetmarfa.com

The scene:
We are in Marfa, Texas sitting at one of the many tables in the gorgeous outdoor enclosed patio of Planet Marfa. It’s like a secret desert oasis that all the most interesting locals know about. The bar in the center of the patio resembles a treehouse. There’s also a teepee (that is a cave below ground)…and a school bus…and a dance floor…with a jungle gym! Wow. Join us inside this patio wonderland for a very sisterly, aquarian sharing of the life journey.

Highlights:
+ Planet Marfa is the first bar/restaurant she has owned
+ Buying a place to keep it the same - Project: Save Planet Marfa
+ “I don’t know anything about that but I’ll figure it out”
+ Working the Marfa radio station during the pandemic
+ Originally from Houston
+ Being a new business owner in a tight-knit town
+ Aquarians…
+ Falling in love with Marfa
+ Your slow-down place becoming your social place
+ Loving your staff and your regulars
+ Learning tenacity
+ Life events reflecting your strengths back to you
+ Empowering others instead of bossing
+ Learning to rely on others
+ Having a business that is visited by every kind of person
+ Enjoying watching people enjoy themselves
+ Coping mechanism: being needed
+ Knowing when to drop our childhood survival skills
+ Being confident and not giving a shit
+ Making music video covers in middle school
+ Loving yourself - being your own best friend
+ Being open to but not looking for a partner
+ Learning to take care of ourselves
+ Wanting to be a whore but behaving like an asexual
+ Flipping the script on crushes and seeing yourself in them
+ Falling in love with ourselves through the reflection we see in others
+ Nurturing our relationship with ourselves
+ Start where you are - and just smile at others

A taste:
“I used to come out here and it was quiet and I was peaceful and I’d spend a lot of time at my house…it’s where I would slow down and forget about my regular life.  So it’s a little strange now this is the place where I’m very busy…it’s kind of flipped, now Houston’s where I go to slow down.”

Mantra:
“I am here now.”

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@thesoundmindgarden
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The scene:
We are in Joshua Tree, CA in Petra’s home with her 6 month-old baby boy Marley, her husband Ryan, and her mom who is visiting from Czechoslovakia. I am elated to have this time with Petra as it is very unexpected, yet feels perfectly timed. Petra has been playing soundbaths since early 2019. She played for our meditation retreat a few days earlier and the year before that, which was my first ever. She has such a calming and approachable energy. Join us in her home sanctuary for an honest share of the journey from corporate America to the present.

Highlights:
+ “Upgrading reality” by letting things go keeps life energy flowing
+ Creative focus without interruptions is blissful
+ There is no true giving without receiving
+ Unconditional love - do I do the same thing for myself?
+ Her new practice to change a repetitive “story”: contemplate the thought, then add a prayer
+ No simply means no.  Saying no is self care.
+ Lived in Denver, CO for 14 years
+ Moved to JT to change her life - left a corporate job and a cushy life
+ Being away from tall buildings allows the mind to expand and flow creatively
+ Rebirthing yourself through choice of place
+ Immersing yourself in nature AND having community
+ Living in a quiet space allows for stillness
+ Stillness allows for a different internal focus
+ What you see outside is what you experience inside
+ Fighting to fix yourself in chaos is possible, and maybe extra challenging
+ Finding joy inside - rediscovering joy
+ What is my priority?  Having limited time guides this
+ Being non-linear with how you spend your time
+ Flow is a journey, allow it to surprise you
+ You don’t know what you don’t know
+ Recorded an album called Gratitude
+ Aligning with the pure motive of why you’re doing what you’re doing
+ Petra used to work in finance, planning retirements…wearing heels!
+ Waiting for the plan vs. leaping first and then the plan forming
+ Stay put long enough to allow “your thing” to show up - it will find you
+ Sell/give away everything that doesn’t bring you joy
+ If you keep doing it and it doesn’t change, then perhaps it is your authentic journey
+ “Work” not draining you but instead heightening you
+ Working with people on vacation
+ Inviting people into your experience, sharing what you are living
+ Living in virtue takes practice, there is no timeline
+ Gratitude is accessible to everyone, it is non-denominational
+ Every part of our journey matters
+ Learning to listen to others / not insisting on doing things on your own
+ Recognizing those whom we should listen to, and those we should not
+ Listening deepens empathy
+ Going from 3 boxes of shoes to having what you need
+ Having “things” takes your energy
+ Substance-free experiences - being high on actual life
+ Don’t attach - to anything
+ “Spiritual Materialism” and not selling a spiritual experience
+ Soundscape Musician vs. “Sound Healer”
+ Trust that all is well - especially in hard times
+ Stay playful, nimble, and curious
+ Everyone wants to be heard, but who is willing to listen?

“Once you get on the string you have to do everything to stay on that string, which is the path, which is really the only path there is. Just keep following that creative flow. And everything that arises is supposed to. All of the people that show up on the journey are exactly those people who are supposed to show up.”

Favorite saying:
“I am that.”  (What we see comes from inside us).

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@marfarockshop
moonlightgemstones.com

The scene:
We are in Marfa, Texas at Paul’s rock shop sitting in the back workshop where all the magic happens - where rocks you kick become beautiful jewelry. For me, this is an intentional return trip to Marfa to see Paul again and absorb more of the magic I feel when I’m in this part of Texas.  Last time, I bought a beautiful turquoise and silver ring that one of Paul’s apprentices made. His shop could easily be a museum; it is unreal what beauty our earth is able to create from elements. Join us for a brief history through Paul’s adventures and trade.

Highlights:
+ Lapidary = one who cuts, polishes, or engraves gems.
+ Moved to TX in 1984 for a job at the observatory
+ Started by collecting agate as a hobby
+ He’s a surface collector as opposed to a digger
+ Armadillo races with Jalapeño Sam
+ An article featuring his jewelry got him fired from a pump job
+ Ended up in Marfa because it was “cheap” (20 yrs ago)
+ Apprentices are good labor if they’re competent
+ Staying somewhere because you can’t afford to leave
+ Surviving breaking your leg in the wilderness
+ Crawling out from the debt of medical bills
+ His employees typically learn and move on
+ Finding a good balance with helpers and prioritizing your own work time
+ Feeling “too generous”
+ Political intolerance is extreme in TX
+ America is founded on genocide
+ “A blueberry in a strawberry field”
+ Having a science background in an industry associated with mystical properties
+ Being given access to private property
+ Agates in TX
+ Feeling outcast for not participating in local catholic religious activities
+ Being seen as part of “the invasion of Marfa” (by white people)
+ Every day is a surprise
+ Political corruption, abortion rights, religious rule
+ Seeking a “progressive environment” / the decay of America
+ Working in the service fixing radios

A taste:
“When somebody comes to me and says, ‘Can I learn , can I apprentice?’ well, it’s a benefit to me because I gain labor - if they’re a competent person, and that’s been the case with a number of very talented young people that want to learn.”

Favorite saying:
“I can’t believe I’m getting away with selling rocks in the desert.”

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The scene:
We are near Willcox, Arizona at “Happy Camp” on BLM land where I dry camp and Fred leases from the US Govt. to roam his current 130 head of cattle.  I have appointed Fred the mayor of Happy Camp because he makes it his business to know who’s coming and going and why.  We met the last time I was out here.  Fred and I couldn’t appear more different but we seem to be cut from the same cloth.  Hank and I take a ride up into the hills in his side-by-side to check on the water pumps for his cattle.  Join us at camp for an honest tale told through the eyes of the last great generation of ranchers.

Highlights:
+ Ranched the Mexico border for 24 years during the late 80s and early 90s
+ 200 head allotment, 29 sections, 640 acres/section, 19,000 acres
+ Third generation - passed down from both Mom’s and Dad’s side of the family
+ Sells calves through the local auction at 6-8 months old
+ Ranchers get paid $1 - $1.20 per pound…grocery stores sell it for $10-25/lb
+ Can’t afford to hire help
+ There are 4-5 “middle men” (butchers, packers, etc.) getting paid between the rancher and the grocery store
+ Ranchers don’t fully understand why they get paid so little
+ “The rich get richer and the poor get poorer”
+ You’ve got to really like animals and ranching to be in it
+ Fred gets attached to his animals (why he doesn’t slaughter his own chicken)
+ His horses are like family members to him
+ Rain is scarce - when there’s not enough, they haul water up the mountain
+ Runs three solar-powered water pumps
+ “Just get up and go every day”
+ “Don’t blame nobody for all your mistakes” - if you screw up, admit it and go on (learned from dad)
+ Go to college, see how other people do things in the world, then come back to ranch
+ Most of the people who own ranches are the money people, not families any more
+ A good saddle horse costs $8-10K
+ Poachers thieve calves from the land
+ Ranchers and farmers are his community because they understand him (not town people)
+ Most people don’t understand where food comes from (not the grocery store)
+ Credit cards are a dirty trick - Fred is cash or check only
+ The countryside is his church and his freedom (no bosses)
+ Mom loaned him 30K for his first bunch of cows in ’91
+ Ranchers don’t die…the cattle won’t let them
+ Fighting leukemia since 2007
+ Look forward and have a sense of humor - feeling sorry for yourself is the worst thing you can do
+ Didn’t get an allowance and also didn’t want for nothin’

A taste:
“Just put one foot forward and keep goin’. Just do your best if you can. Take life as it comes because that’s the only choice you’ve got.  Be happy...most of the time try to be happy, and do right. […] You make your own mistakes your own way, you learn by your mistakes.  And take responsibility, even if you screw up, "so I screwed up", go on with it.”

Favorite saying:
“You can’t be right all the time.”

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@barakhardley

The scene:
We are in Los Angeles, CA sitting in Barak’s living room joined by his two cats. This is the first interview I’ve been bullied into (is it bullying if you’re willing?) We have a total blast talking about life experiences that have shaped the way we think. At one point, Barak commandeers the interview to have us create something together - that’s an interview first! Barak is lovely, unique, kind, creative, and funny. Join us as we plan world domination…or maybe just another really good idea for keeping his cat from turning on the faucet.

Highlights:
+ A new year’s resolution of getting on Tik Tok
+ Learning to verbalize what you’re creating
+ Sharing the process of creating things with others
+ Dialoguing with others while creating
+ We met on the set of a music video - shoutout to @mamahotdog (hire us again! K thanks! ;)
+ Life is art vs. Art is life
+ Avoiding displeasure by creating opportunity out of any experience
+ Being inspired by others responding to your art
+ Reprioritizing social media beyond likes
+ Barak used to be a pastor and then stopped believing in God
+ Losing your “truth” and finding another one
+ This world is chaos and it’s so unlikely that we would exist
+ We are the universe aware of itself, enjoying itself
+ Podcasts: meet a stranger and talk like best friends for an hour
+ Becoming a comedian to deal with depression and insecurity
+ Developing more healthy aspects of validation
+ Making deeper friendships through projects
+ Transitioning from hoarder to maker
+ Removing obstacles from the creative process
+ Fighting through depression, being grateful for the experience
+ Craving challenges, knowing they bring breakthroughs
+ From avoiding uncomfortability to embracing the challenge
+ Figuring out that you like the struggle
+ Chasing the creative dream to feel genuinely satisfied in life
+ Creating the possibility that you can do whatever you want however you want
+ The necessity of the hustle to maintain the creative spirit
+ “What’s the place where I’m the best?” - where passions overlap
+ All the projects we pursue are connected, that crossroads is our own magic
+ Being confident in what you’re talking about and being less defensive
+ Barak hijacks the interview and I let him
+ We concept an experiential event on a white board
+ The greatest harm in life was comparing himself to others
+ Question the voice that says NO

A taste:
“I think the process of making things is so interesting to me. It’s more interesting than the thing itself.”

“I’d much rather be creating and building than spend another minute trying to resuscitate an acquaintance.”

Favorite saying:
“This is a cold brutal world, but it was cobbled together by people who had it much worse.”

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ripplecatalyststudio.com

The scene:
We are in Santa Fe, New Mexico in Cecile’s home office of 20 years, surrounded by colorful folk art set against a backdrop of soothing cream-colored walls. Cecile explains to me that for many years each wall used to be a different bright color. I can see how both the calm cream and the energetic colors suit Cecile - she is dynamic, with a simultaneously energizing and soothing quality about her. This dynamism is expressed throughout all of her projects. Join us for a candid conversation between two women who are not afraid to use the word vagina.

Highlights:
+ Radio show host - “Brave Space”
+ Raised Jewish in South Africa, moved to the US at 30 yrs old
+ Moved to Santa Fe after 3 days into her first visit
+ Winning your green card in the lottery (in 1995)
+ V Day, Eve Ensler, and the Vagina Monologues for 15 years
+ Getting the opportunity to speak to women from all over the world
+ Being passionate about the power of women united as a force
+ The feminist movement is reinventing itself
+ We are still fighting in America for equal rights to be put into the constitution
+ In 2001, newspapers wouldn’t let you use the world “vagina”
+ The Vagina Monologues created a movement
+ Created “The Business of Birth Control” movie
+ Birth control messes up your hormonal system
+ Being pro information about women’s health
+ People need to make decisions for themselves (not wait for their governments to do it)
+ “Human” rights
+ America is run by the minority right now
+ There is no right or wrong choice about how to be engaged in your world
+ There’s no such thing as a safe space, only a brave space
+ Film: The Business of Being Born
+ The testing of medication for women is tested on men (yes, reread that)
+ Women should talk to each other about all the women things
+ One Billion Rising movement - 1 out of 3 women in their lifetime will be raped or beaten
+ Bringing women together across racial groups
+ Cultures that are relationship-based
+ Imposter syndrome
+ Life lessons: just go with it

A taste:
“The feminist movement is sort-of reinventing itself. I just don’t know where I fit into it anymore right now - like, a white, middle-aged woman. As much as I feel like I’m still 20, the truth is I’m not, and there are incredible, young 20-year-olds doing brilliant, brilliant activism, and it is time for them to step forward and lead.”

Favorite saying:
“When a drop of water interrupts a still surface, it creates a ripple. A disruption. An energy. The initial ripple is a catalyst for the next, transforming motionlessness into movement. Through the ripple, momentum is born.”

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@artivizm

Upcoming book:
The Ecology Cure: A Doctor’s Prescription for Healing the Earth and Ourselves

The scene:
We are in Chupadero, New Mexico sitting on Wendy’s large “portal” (porch) overlooking an orchard and the acequia (canal) that was built in 1876. Wendy and I just met in person for the first time. She is kind and straightforward and accommodating - and her eyes are full of joy. She has a vibrancy and energy about her that permeates the stories of her life adventures from politics to public health and Chile to Mozambique. Join us holobionts to learn about Wendy’s “place” and her adventurous journey toward it.

Highlights:
+ New Mexico is in the middle of a 1200-year drought
+ The acequia used to have water from March through June (it’s dry now)
+ Humans forgot (300+ years ago) that they already are nature
+ Re-wilding feels like a privilege
+ We have lost our connection to place
+ Humans are part of an ecosystem and our bodies are also ecosystems
+ The Gaia theory: earth is a sentient organism and humans are the microbiome of the earth
+ Holobiont: all the symbiotic relationships in our bodies required for us to live
+ We can’t be healthy when earth’s ecosystem is unhealthy
+ Italian family, from Ohio, schooled at Ohio State and a year in Chile
+ Went to med school to do politics better
+ The people who are creating health policies are career politicians - not doctors
+ Doing a job to get the knowledge
+ Worked in Mozambique Africa helping scale up HIV treatment
+ Involved in the American Public Health Association
+ Worked with Doctors for Global Health - volunteerism, “liberation medicine” in marginalized countries, solidarity (not charity)
+ Jack Geiger - started the community health center movement, currently 1200 centers nationally
+ “The social determinants of health” - holistic considerations for what affects health i.e. stable housing, etc.
+ She became the Cleveland Medical Director for the City Health Dept.
+ Obtained her Masters in Public Health at Johns Hopkins while also holding that position (hero!)
+ Still (technically) a professor at the University of Washington Dept. of Global Health (Seattle)
+ What medical school teaches doctors addresses 20% of what we need to be healthy
+ If you’re going to be a good doctor, you’ve got to get involved in political issues
+ We share much of our DNA with trees
+ Being connected to PLACE and not reducing it to a resource for extraction
+ Creating a healthy society can be intuitive if you start from a place of revitalizing relationship
+ The ethic of and commitment to community
+ Buddhist-ish but not a club joiner
+ Walking away from a relationship if it means not becoming who you need to be
+ Women become invisible around 40 to 50 years old and up - in a great way
+ Thank you for connecting us Mariel Nanasi! (See her interview)

A taste:
“If you’re really connected to a place, if you’re really connected to a community of people - and of non-human people, then you’re going to have a whole different idea of what you’re willing to do to preserve it, [...] and not just see it as a resource for your pleasure, or something to be extracted.”

Favorite sayings:
“Medicine is a social science and politics is just medicine on a large scale.” 
- Rudolph Virchow

“I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve or save the world and a desire to enjoy or savor the world.  This makes it hard to plan the day.” 
- EB White

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@pidge1000

The scene:
We are in Austin, Texas sitting in the upstairs lounge of Bridgett’s climbing gym watching a guy get at it on a stairclimber while we pour our guts out to each other. We just met. Our connector knew we’d get on like this. A rare and wonderful encounter for sure. Bridgett is ripped, but in a dainty way - I’m still trying to get shoulders like hers. Her spirit and tenacity are inspiring, her humor eases, and her love everyone goal is noble. Join us as we climb adventurously up, down, and through life together like it’s not the first time.

Highlights:
+ Exploring the world through your body
+ KINDNESS
+ “We all came here madly in love with one another”
+ You are me living another life
+ Resentment and anger are “low vibes”
+ Book: Letting Go - The Pathway of Surrender - David R. Hawkins
+ All feelings and emotions have a vibration
+ Learning boundaries
+ It’s a bummer when cute people can’t love well
+ You better come at me courageously
+ “Fuck yeah! energy” - the only thing we should make time for
+ Fave new term: “meat machine” (the body)
+ Our body pains are notifying us of emotional stressors
+ Somatic healing for our nervous system
+ Active recovery with Wim Hof and ice baths
+ “No sad stories”
+ Using ice baths to reset your nervous system
+ Ayahuasca ceremonies
+ Psilocybin for emotional release
+ Forming an outdoor mask-less park workout group…during covid
+ Saying I LOVE YOU - and what it means to others
+ Your mom not saying she loves you until the end of her life
+ Figuring out your daddy issues
+ Love is staying curious
+ Being an operator - getting shit done
+ We want men to show up as men and stand in their own power
+ Needing to be in control
+ Running away from an abusive relationship
+ Choosing to be the primary breadwinner to prevent abuse of power
+ Having a high tolerance for failure (makes you a good climber)
+ Dating attachment-avoidant men
+ “Nothing is so addicting as something that almost works” - Gabor Maté
+ Thank you @shanedante for introducing us!
+ Traveling the world climbing
+ Just wanting a toaster oven and a couch
+ Sharing the same mission as the co. you work for
+ “Integrity is not cheap”
+ Austin born and raised
+ Coyote the trickster
+ Starting a women’s commune…in Kentucky…possibly someday
+ Motherhood makes you softer, and stronger
+ Gracefully navigating failure, struggling with impulse control
+ Being sort-of good at a lot of things
+ “You weren’t born typical” - and keep doing you
+ The art can’t go up until we heal and we can commit
+ It’s easy to love everyone if you give them a chance
+ We are enough as we are
+ Learning to listen to our nervous system
+ Taking 10 hits of acid and learning to make better choices
+ Climbing is calculated risk
+ Planning to live no longer than about 70 years (unless the stem cells work)
+ “A dumpster fire in a hurricane”
+ Learning to get intimacy non-sexually
+ Growing your fuck yeah! circle
+ Not having to be the special snowflake

A taste:
“Why do we prioritize and celebrate relationship when it’s like friendship? Friendships are often not based on sexual attraction or raising kids or financial, it’s just two people that are like, ‘Hey I kinda like you and we’re gonna continue to do stuff together’…that’s kind of beautiful.”

Favorite saying:
“Failure is just new information.”

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@gjsellers

The scene:
We are in Santa Fe, New Mexico in the dining room/greenhouse of Gregory’s home for an off-chance, last-minute interview opportunity that almost didn’t happen due to a possible veterinary appointment and a childcare snafu.  But, we made it happen!  Gregory tried despite it all and I was ready and willing whenever he pulled the cord.  These are my favorite kind of interview because they end up being full of discovery, surprises, and delight by all participants - including little ones.  Join us for a rich conversation about leaving the world of a Zen monk for the world of a Zen working dad.

Highlights:
+ From skateboarding in PA to meditating in NY and Japan
+ Spent 7 years in Japan in a Zen Buddhist monastery (age 22-27)
+ Ordained as a monk in ’99, left the monastery in ’06
+ Relocating to NM to build a Zen temple
+ From monk to partner to father
+ Fatherhood as THE training just as being a Zen monk was the training
+ Charlie (2) and Tobias (1) join us (with a banana snack)
+ The REAL life of caring for toddlers…while doing an interview
+ Becoming a father at 46
+ Ginger Snaps - an appropriate dad snack
+ Anyone in a monastery wants an “out”
+ There is no “out” from parenthood
+ Children as teachers
+ The rarity of being self-possessed
+ How to live a pure, authentic, high-quality life from the essence of who we are
+ The limitation of words in describing the hugeness of our life’s pursuit
+ The inquiry of how to live the highest quality lives we can, exactly as we are
+ Go back to the source and get real
+ Nothing is wrong - but we fear that it is
+ Pushing yourself into a very small tight box
+ Learning to silence our inner critic
+ Courage, fearlessness, and transparency
+ Saying yes! - spontaneity takes courage
+ Making Zen your own and calling it a practice
+ Being a genius master at blocking yourself from the truth
+ Your work is right in front of you - wherever you go, there you are
+ We don’t get to flake out on life if we want a rewarding one
+ The one thing you can’t [afford to] screw up with your kids is being unconditionally loving with them
+ We are not our children’s choices
+ Fish don’t see water in the same way humans don’t see energy
+ Accepting someone exactly as they are - non-judgement
+ The goal of “just one day sooner”
+ “There’s no salesmanship in truth”
+ “If I light up me, I light up you”
+ We don’t have to get anyone to change
+ Being an extroverted introvert - outgoing AND shy
+ Learning to just be reasonable
+ Solo retreats are community supported also
+ There is no separation between an individual and their community
+ Reciprocircle - our newly made-up word
+ Everything’s gonna be ok
+ Love the things you’re doing - don’t check out

A taste:
“That’s what love is - is accepting people, appreciating people exactly as they are, exactly how they are.”

Favorite saying:
“Pop Art is to love things.” 
- spoken by Andy Warhol in response to being asked, “What is Pop Art?”

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Band: City of my Death (on bandcamp)
@cityofmydeath

The scene:
We are in SE Albuquerque New Mexico in Noelle’s “home office”, which is a cute apartment housing serious law things, a bass guitar, and a bunch of green plants. This is our first time meeting in person, after having only texted to arrange a time to meet. I feel so blessed to have been introduced to Noelle and that she agreed to meet with me on the fly. She is a true gem of a woman - humbly super intelligent, funnier than fuck, and inspiringly adventurous in her life pursuits.  Join us for unexpected agreeable surprises.

Highlights:
+ Learning to play the bass because you need a bassist
+ The doing of social media
+ New band: City of my Death
+ Listen to their music on bandcamp
+ Member of the “Mutual Admiration Society” (see Cynthia Cook’s interview)
+ OG drummer and vocalist, new bass player
+ Husband is a full-time musician
+ Moved to Albuquerque to go to law school
+ Represents tribes and tribal entities
+ Attended Cal Berkeley
+ Moved to NM from CA (bay area) 20 yrs ago
+ Intentionally moved away from “the city”
+ Originally from Ohio
+ The same qualities that bring success can also be a hindrance
+ Finishing things is important
+ Having a decent sense of humor is valuable
+ Noelle earns badges for: Persistence, Musicianship, and Humor
+ Arguably not too old to be playing rock and roll
+ Community has become more music-oriented
+ Making friends as a grown-up is challenging
+ Does anyone else have trouble watching a 2-hour movie these days? (us too)
+ Being an attorney can make one too comfortable with disagreement
+ Being perceived as “aggressive” when you don’t agree with others (as a woman)
+ Dear younger self: please don’t worry so much
+ The battle with self-consciousness

A taste:
“I think I just always had some confidence that I could do what I needed to do but to be fair I’ve had also all kinds of advantages in life so I know that that isn’t so much some inherent quality as probably whatever advantages I was lucky enough to have.”

Favorite saying:
“Expect agreeable surprises.”

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