Blake Murphy and Matt Bonner breakdown the win vs. the Pacers, including Brandon Ingram’s game-winner and late game possessions vs. Pascal Siakam. They also discuss the crunch time defence and why it’s important that Toronto can win ugly. Afterwards, show producer Amit Mann (27:23) joins to get their thoughts on Toronto’s process without RJ Barrett, whether season expectations have changed considering the hot start and how teams will counter Ingram’s production late in games.

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