The 180 Drums Podcast

Nashville. Why do drummers move there? How about Los Angeles and New York City? Nashville is our topic today and in this podcast interview with Joshua Sales, we're diving into a number of different subjects about how working drummers can get paid to do what they love, play the dang drums. We start off discussing Josh's experience growing up in Indianapolis, Indiana and how a sudden move to London, England, had him leaving his dreams of becoming a professional MLB pitcher behind. This is when the drums took the spotlight. Front and centre, baby.

Why Listen to this Podcast? You will learn:

• Whether or not you should move to Nashville for a drumming career
• The most important skills to start gigging in a new city
• The most important qualities to possess as a drummer
• Books, drummers and quotes to jot down
• What it is other musicians are look

Ever wondered how you can create a career drumming and begin to make money with multiple streams of income? Jumping into this podcast is immediately going to reveal a number of different ways you can begin to establish a career as a drummer and earn some cash while you play... so your bank account isn't empty while you're out drumming! It might just surprise you how many different ways you can make money playing the drums, and while developing a career as a drummer is a challenging, it's not an unrealistic goal. We are excited to hear how this podcast helps you on your journey to becoming the best drummer you can be and creating a career that sustains you for the years ahead!

Why listen to this episode? You will learn about Chris':

• Todays music industry
• Experience in Cover Bands
• Experience teaching drums
• Move to Los Angeles to Pursue a Career
• Tips on Getting gigs
• Tips on preparing for gigs and auditions
• Different ways to make money playing drums
• How to view drumming as a business

Enjoy!

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DISCLAIMER: Harry spoke with the Jewish Defense League before writing on, and covering, this story. This post is not in support of any racist or anti-semitic behaviour, actions or visuals. This article is written to take a further look at the early 1900's history, prior to World War II, as well as some of the definitive moments in drum collection history.

This blog post is going to be not only extremely interesting, but also quite controversial and historical in nature. This podcast and blog is highlighting William S. Hart, a famous movie star of the early 1900's who made a purchase from Ludwig & Ludwig for his son, that today is highly valued and, even more so, misunderstood. Harry J. Cangany, a drum historian of sorts, and avid writer for many news mediums, including Modern Drummer, Drum! Magazine, Not So Modern Drummer and many more, joined us to discuss and shed light on this controversial piece of drum history.

Harry also spends time highlighting the recent sale of a $2 million Ringo Starr drumhead used upon his early arrival to the United States, both appearing on the Ed Sullivan show (with none other than The Beatles) and used on his personal Ludwig drumset. Harry also discusses sitting down with his hometown Billionaire who made the purchase of the drumhead, and continued on to purchase Ringo Starr's first personal Ludwig drumset in the United States. This is an exciting podcast full of surprises and fascinating bits of history that are sure to leave you learning something new. Without further adieu... Harry J. Cangany on the 180 Drums Podcast...

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"I want to take drum lessons!" – Harry J. Cangany, moments after seeing The Beatles and Ringo Starr for the first time on the Ed Sullivan show in 1964, February 19th. He recalls it like it was yesterday.

Why listen to this episode? You will learn about Harry's:

• 20 year hunt for the most controversial drum ever
• Experience, seeing, documenting and touching Ringo's first drumset
• Life changing experience with The Beatles
• The early rise of the drum set and how Ringo Starr made that impact
• 150 Drum Sets and 50 Snare Drum large collection

We've heard about pocket so many times but what does pocket mean, and do you have it? We thought we would delve a little further to understand who is widely recognized as having a deep pocket to better help you create one. Written by Josh Teitelbaum & Jake Nicolle. Pocket.

To me, pocket implies the point at which a song feels just right.

When you hear the pocket, it sounds perfectly comfortable and groovy.

When you play in the pocket, you are serving the song and making it feel good.

The musical importance of pocket cannot be overstated enough; it is paramount in any style. Furthermore, pocket allows the musicians around you to feel supported and grounded in a solid sense of time.

Often times, it is the rhythm section's responsibility to establish the pocket, for which a groove or song can be built around. As drummers, we have huge influence as to how a song feels, and how it moves from beginning to end.

Below are some of my favorite drummers who have an uncanny ability to play what's right for the song, form the pocket, and create a solid musical foundation for the rest of the band to sit on top of. The effect that these players have had on my, and so many other drummers' musicality is unmatched. My list of influences is by no means limited to this list, but these are some of the guys who have had the most significant impact on my playing and feel.

Steve Jordan

Steve Gadd

James Gadson

Bernard Purdie

Aaron Sterling

Zigaboo

Clyde Stubblefield / John "Jabo" Starks

John Bonham

Benny Benjamin, Uriel Jones, "Pistol" Allen

Stevie Wonder

Levon Helm

David Garibaldi

Brian Blade

Al Jackson Jr.

All discussed...

"The drums speak for themselves." – Nathaniel Mela. Playing a major role in helping bringing Craviotto drums to the marketplace. He's also surrounded by Craviotto drums daily, making him one of the luckiest guys we can think of. Nathaniel gives us the lowdown on his experience working with Craviotto and the backstory of Johnny Craviotto. He shares how Johnny growing up using drums from the 20-40's had an impact on Johnny's inspiration to pursue a particular style of drum crafting after seeing a shift from major manufacturers to ply drum shells in the 80's.

About Craviotto Drums

Craviotto one-ply, solid shell drum sets provide a sound and feel that is instantly recognizable. Each drum is handmade from premium quality, hand-selected wood boards. We begin at the source to ensure your instrument is free from imperfections. From there, each drum takes several weeks to make - start to finish. The result is an instrument that speaks for itself and inspires others. Each Craviotto one-ply, solid shell drum wears over one thousand fingerprints from the pickiest, most exacting talented drum craftsmen in the business. You bet and proud of it. From Maple, to Ash, to Walnut to Mahogany, let the fine craftsmen at Craviotto construct the instrument you've been seeking.

Why listen to this episode? You will learn How:

• Craviotto was birthed
• Johnny Craviotto's inspiration to begin building custom drums first came from and how Neil Peart was an early artist
• Ringo Starr playing drums on the Ed Sullivan show impacted the culture of drumming as a whole and especially for companies like Zildjian Cymbals and Ludwig drums.
• Jake Nicolle messed up on a Craviotto Snare trade that led to the formation of 180drums.com with Steve Augustine (I didn't mess up that bad on the trade)!
• Johnny built such an impressive roster of artists who all buy the drums and don't receive giveaways
• Johnny used to tour with Buffy St. Marie, Neil Young and many others
• the early 20s, 30s and 40s drums had an impact on the Craviotto sound
• To cope with letting go of a drum you regret parting ways with

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Quotes

"Just another Fish." - Johnny Craviotto

"It spread like wildfire amongst the right people."

"All these guys have approached him and I think that stems from the fact that Johnny is really doing something unique."

"The drums speak for themselves."

Connect with Craviotto:

CraviottoDrums.com | Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | Instagram

People and Artists Mentioned

• Johnny Craviotto
• Emily Smith
• Zildjian
• Ludwig Drums
• Ringo Starr
• Huey Lewis and the News
• Solid Drum Company
• Jim Keltner
• DW Drums
• Don Lombardi
• Ronnie Vannucci
• Jason McGerr
• Bernie Dresel
• Brian Blade
• Chris McHugh
• Chad Cromwell
• Chris Tyrell

JAKE NICOLLE

@JakeNicolle

Co-founder of @180Drums and @SundaySeat. A lover of all things drums. I have toured and recorded with various artists, constantly refining my craft. I spend my time working on 180Drums.com, Sunday Seat and various other projects, inspiring and raising up other drummers and young entrepreneurs when time permits. A good book and cup of coffee is always near by.

Click HERE to see Jake's Lessons

MARK SCHROOR

@MarkSchroor

All around bad to the bone. Mark tapes not only the intro and outro of the podcast but he's also a killer drummer in his own right. When Mark isn't out touring with Manafest or other artists he can be found in his studio recording satellite drum tracks for artists all over the world and mixing the latest 180 Drums Podcast episode. He's the real deal.

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"It's vital to understand that music is a business, not just art. You're an entity inside of a larger industry. Think beyond music." – Nate Robinson

Nate Robinson is not just Lecrae's drummer, but he's also an amazing teacher and entrepreneur. Nate has played with a variety of Grammy-winning and Billboarding-topping artists including: Wayman Tisdale, Kelis, Tank, Angie Stone, Lecrae, Jermaine Dupri, Sarah Morrow, and Tyler Perry among others. His style is flavorful and unique. He never plays to hog the audience's gaze, but rather to form the greater whole of the musical experience through unity and balance. "Heard Not Seen."

Why listen to this episode? You will learn how to:

• Play for the Music
• Not Talk Too Much
• Develop your Weaknesses
• Expose your own musical Identity
• Create a successful music business
• Develop a strategy for a successful career

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Nate's #180Seat

ZION Cymbals

AJP Custom Drums

Hardware

• DW 9000 series pedals and hardware
• DW 5000 series pedals

Remo Drumheads Notes

He began banging on stuff at 2 years old

His experience on 180 Drums

Earnest Walker was Nate's mentor, who allowed Nate to drum tech his gigs. This was Nate's early education and further exposure to the drums.

Nate wasn't schooled at all.

He got started in church, but didn't like gospel music

Grew up in Houston w/ Chris Daddy Dave

Prayer Each Morning - "This is the day the Lord has made; We will rejoice and be glad in it." - Psalm 118:24

Most productive at night. Last thing of the day - shutting down computer, gone straight to bed around 3AM.

Nate's Father is an electrical engineer

His mother is a nurse

Blockbuster music selection

Mo' Better Blues

Violin and Recorder were Nate's schooled instruments

Quotes

- Nate's dad, "Always focus on your weaknesses... It's the exact opposite of what you want to do, but that's where you need to spend your time."

"All I ever see, all I ever hear are my weaknesses... and because of that, I always have something to work on."

"Being an amazing musician requires the artist to create some infrastructure in order to have a career. You have to create something."

"Create something comfortable and authentic to who I am, and define myself as a player."

"It had the potential to be awful."

"Vital to understand that music is a business, not just an art. You're an entity inside of a larger industry."

"Think beyond music and just the drums."

"95% business 5% music."

"Play the music. Don't play at the music, play with the music."

"Music is your business product."

"Continue to practice and work even when things look good.

Connect with Nate:

TheBeatBreaker.com | Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | Instagram

People and Artists Mentioned

• Lecrae
• Chris Daddy Dave
• Earnest Walker
• RUSH
• Neil Peart
• Jeff Tain Watts
• Terence Blanchard
• Brian Blade
• Gary James
• John Coltrane
• Wayman Tisdale
• Jermaine Dupri
• Angie Stone

JAKE NICOLLE

@JakeNicolle

Co-founder of @180Drums and @SundaySeat. A lover of all things drums. I have toured and recorded with various artists, constantly refining my craft. I spend my time working on 180Drums.com, Sunday Seat and various other projects, inspiring and raising up other drummers and young entrepreneurs when time permits. A good book and cup of coffee is always near by.

Click HERE to see Jake's Lessons

MARK SCHROOR

@MarkSchroor

All around bad to the bone. Mark tapes not only the intro and outro of the podcast but he's also a killer drummer in his own right. When Mark isn't out touring with Manafest or other artists he can be found in his studio recording satellite drum tracks for artists all over the world and mixing the latest 180 Drums Podcast episode. He's the real deal.

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Drake's Drummer Adrian Bent walks us through how he got the gig and played bass on some Drake tracks you love as well. Have you ever tried to understand how the guys touring arenas all over the world and playing on your favorite records first landed their big break? We have too and we know what that curiosity feels like. Getting a big gig is hard and there's a lot more than just one element involved. Hard work, network and opportunity all vary in their significance, person to person, but they matter. Adrian has all three working for him and explains how he practiced and put in the time to be prepared when the opportunity came knocking... Even though it did catch him sleeping ;)

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"A lot of people can fall by the wayside... and give up. But, if they just stayed the course, they would realize nothing is built overnight." – Adrian Bent

Adrian Bent has played not just drums on Drake tracks you know... He's played the bass on several too.

Why listen to this episode? You will learn how to:

• Play Less and get hired to play drums more
• The value in a "straight groove" mentality
• Get big gigs
• Keep big gigs
• Develop a network
• Value playing less

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Adrian's #180Seat

Quotes

"People really don't understand drums…. You've gotta make it more relatable."

"Even when it comes to soloing you need to make reoccurring themes for people to understand."

"Stay the course."

"No one sees the groundwork."

"No one saw the hours I practiced in church by myself, they just assume I came out of nowhere."

"Everything will come that is supposed to come your way."

playing "Relatable Fills."

"We need to simplify to make it relatable."

Connect with Adrian:

Adrianbent.com | Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | Instagram

People and Artists Mentioned

• Drake
• John Jr Robinson
• Ndugu Chancelor
• Jeremy Haynes
• Jay Z
• Josh Tietlebaum
• Zildjian
• Dave Weckl
• Vinnie Colaiuta
• Steve Gadd

"Cymbals are one of the best way for drummers to customize their sound. Picking cymbals out is a really special experience and it helps you create your sound... That's a really big deal for people who work here and are players at Zildjian."

Tony hosts the most eclectic vocabulary to describe cymbals. "Lush, shimmering, flavours, shades, Distortion boost, White noise, raw aggression."

Tony is responsible for Cymbals, Stick, Accessories and Gear at Zildjian

His role as Product Manager has an artist relation focus, brand awareness, and marketing co-relationship.

Tony creates his lists every day and eats his morning cereal from his desk.

" A funnel, not a tunnel. Funnel your ideas down into prioritization. This has the biggest potential... This is what people are absolutely screaming for."

Methods to the madness: Evernote, Google Docs

Cymbals trends: bigger Diameter and darker crashes, hi hats, rides. Fewer cymbals.

"There's so many directions we can go and there's never a shortage of ideas."

New Products

20" A Custom Projection Crash is the latest A Custom line addition

Extended ranges in K and K Custom family

Diversity in Ride Cymbal A Custom categories

New A Avedis Cymbal line - Vintage take on 50/60's A series. Taking the consumer through Zildjians footprint from the 50's - 90's. How Zildjian has managed to stay with popular music through the genres. A Series has followed that path.

"We make our cymbals as versatile as possible."

Schooling

Western Illinois University

Played in ensembles, rock bands, marching - DCI Drum Core

Worked for Tycoon Percussion and Corporate offices of Guitar Center in Southern California before Zildjian.

"This industry is pretty small... [if] you develop a good reputation for yourself, it can carry you along."

New S Family mid tier price point Cymbal line, B12 Alloy - Tony helped bring this product to market.

Favorite moments with Zildjian - Listening to the prototype, as a team, before it becomes the final product. Meeting drummers at events around the country, providing a background to drummers on what goes into the making of each cymbal or new product release.

Zildjian K line/series - A catch all for great ideas.

Special dry, k custom dark, hybrid...

K custom dark have really done quite well.

K Dark, K Custom Dark, Constantinople, Kerope

K Custom - overhammering with a lot of tone

K Dark - More of a fundamental pitch

Zildjian A line/series

Dave Grohl and the A Custom EFX - Distortion boost, White noise, raw aggression

People and bands Mentioned

Tool

Jason Bittner

Shadows Fall

Snarky puppy

Pucifer - James keening?

Mutemath

Deftones

Hands like houses?

Larnell Lewis

Taylor Hawkins

Dave Grohl

Foo fighters

Emily Smith - Link to her podcast on a special highlighted level

Breaking Through the Noise

What would have defined a superstar drummer 15 years ago would have been a headlining gig. Now to be successful; market yourself online and utilize social media and youtube. Those guys are the new hero's [of the drumming spotlight].

Not only are you able to look at those guys videos every day but you're able to get lessons with them.

If you do it well... you can really make a name for yourself... In a different way... We want that to continue.

Nothing truly good comes easy... Work hard and keep at it.

180drums.com/TonyL

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"Out of everything I've done musically... such an easy idea is getting me traction." – Tristan Kelley

Tristan Kelley (@TristanKelley) has more than 1,000 videos of original grooves. Try that one on for size.

What's exciting about todays podcast is it's emphasis on creating original ideas and being unafraid to share those ideas with the world. It can be intimidating creating your own videos and ideas but trial and error is your best friend.

Why listen to this episode? You will learn:

• Tristan's drum collection
• How Tristan grew his Instagram account
• More about your own creative process
• How to Re-evaluate your own playing
• How Tristan picked up the drums
• How to quickly create new ideas
• Tristan's daily routine
• Why slow is fast

- SHOW NOTES -

"You can only regret what you don't do." – Lindsay Artkop (2015 Hit Like a Girl Contest Winner - Berklee School of Music Graduate)

Lindsay Artkop (@LindsayArtkop) is quickly becoming a force to be reckoned with, and an influential female in the world of drumming.

You might know Lindsay from her success becoming the 2015 winner of the Hit Like a Girl Contest.

What's exciting about todays podcast is it's focus on have a focused practice routine and how Berklee stirred up much of the way Lindsay developed that focused practice regimen. She shares the secrets to how she created a routine that's helped her maximize and focus her time in the practice room towards specific goals.

Why listen to this episode? You will learn:

• How Lindsay got started playing drums at a young age
• The influence of various mentors on her life
• The value of studying at Berklee College of Music in Boston, Massachusetts
• How to build a focused and disciplined practice routine
• How Lindsay utilized the mentors in her life
• Lindsay's experience winning the 2015 Hit Like a Girl Contest
• How often Lindsay releases content
• Various projects Lindsay is working on

Enjoy!