Earlier in the week, we were asked to contribute to a couple of shows to talk about Forest's awful season (and year) so far.

Firstly, hear Rich Ferraro in conversation with Ryan Dilks and Justin Peach from the Second Tier Podcast, discussing the Reading game, but more importantly, the bigger picture as to why Forest are doing so badly.

Then we cut to Monday's discussion with Talksport2, discussing the form and confidence of the players, whether Chris Hughton is a good appointment as manager, and whether there are potentially wider issues affecting the club.

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