The 4th Box

In part 1 of a 2-part episode series, we sit down with Jacob Johnson, host of Rise to Liberty podcast, independent researcher, and former Utah House candidate to explore the hidden forces shaping modern society. What began as a journey into liberty-minded politics evolved into a deep investigation of propaganda, psychological operations, government corruption, and the influence of intelligence agencies. We discuss why local politics are far more important than Washington, D.C., how community involvement has collapsed across America, and why some believe the greatest examples of corruption are happening not in Congress, but quite close to home.

The conversation takes a turn as we examine declassified programs such as MKUltra, Operation Paperclip, and Project Mockingbird. We explore what these programs reveal about government-sponsored behavioral research, the history of propaganda in America, and whether the techniques developed decades ago could still influence society today. Along the way, we discuss Manchurian Candidate theories, hypnosis, neuro-linguistic programming (NLP), psychological conditioning, and the growing debate surrounding surveillance technologies, brain-computer interfaces, and modern information warfare.

Relevant Links:

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owootTAuxic
• https://www.energy.gov/lm/manhattan-project-historical-resources
• https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/static/Review-Operation-Paperclip.pdf

Where to find Jacob Johnson:

• https://allmylinks.com/risetoliberty

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STAY VIGILANT.

We've talked about Agenda 2030 quite a bit. This week, we consider that the deadline is fast approaching and the countless changes we have already seen because of it. By 2030, the big story may not just be energy or technology itself, but the scale of land conversion behind it. Across solar farms, data centers, forest management, critical minerals, carbon pipelines, and weather modification, millions of acres are being targeted, reshaped, or put under new forms of control. Solar alone already covers hundreds of thousands of acres nationally, with some estimates putting farmland converted for solar at roughly 550,000 to 600,000 acres, and projections going much higher as buildout expands. Data centers are spreading even faster in development terms: more than 1,500 are planned nationwide, many in rural regions, and average site sizes are around 224 acres, with some hyperscale projects reaching far beyond that.

What ties all of this together is the way land is being repurposed for large systems that are described as necessary for clean energy, digital growth, climate resilience, or national security. But on the ground, that often means farmland, forests, and open space are being absorbed into industrial infrastructure, while local communities worry about eminent domain, water use, habitat loss, public health, and loss of control. In that sense, the central question for 2030 is not just whether the projects succeed, but how much land they collectively consume and who ends up bearing the cost of that transformation.

Relevant Links:

• https://nypost.com/2026/05/25/us-news/resistance-grows-against-new-yorks-18-planned-solar-farms-locals-say-ruin-land-kill-animals-and-wont-create-much-energy/
• https://www.sltrib.com/news/2026/05/04/hyperscale-data-center-project/
• https://constructionreviewonline.com/450-mw-substation-approved-for-15b-pennsylvania-digital-i-pax-ai-data-center-in-carlisle/#google_vignette\
• https://westvirginiawatch.com/2026/02/26/d-c-based-real-estate-firm-investing-4b-for-new-data-center-development-in-berkeley-county-wv/
• https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/04/roundup-glyphosate-spraying-forests-monsanto-science-retraction-cancer-health-concerns-maha-trump-executive-order-supreme-court-bayer-lawsuits/
• https://www.trackdatacenters.com/

This is a fight that directly impacts each and everyone of us. It has never been more important to get educated and get involved.

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This week, we are joined by co-owner of T. Rex Arms, Isaac Botkin. T. Rex ARMS is a family-owned, Tennessee-based tactical equipment company motivated by the Sixth Commandment and the Second Amendment to equip citizens to protect life and liberty.

We pick Isaac's brain on many important topics:

• The Responsibilities Given By the Sixth Commandment and 2nd Ammendment
• The Biblical Argument for the 2nd Amendment
• Our God-Given Rights
• The Role of the Government in the Protection of These Rights
• Advocating for Gun Rights at the Local Level
• Navigating Firearm Legislation
• The Importance of Limiting Government Power

Discover more about Isaac and the incredible work T. Rex Arms is doing for gun rights in Tennessee and around the country here:

https://www.trex-arms.com/

STAY VIGILANT.

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This week we're talking about what appears to be the endless stream of distractions. While we care little about the recent release of the UAP/UFO files or the rodent-spread Hantavirus making its way through the newsfeed, we think it's important to consider WHY these things are currently being discussed at length in the media. Meanwhile, the Epstein survivors are testifying underoath, and from the mainstream? Crickets.

We spend some time reminiscing on the efforts of our ancestors in the Revolutionary era in what has come to be known as the Pine Tree Riot. This type of bold defiance is exactly what is necessary to right the course we have found ourselves in.

Stay vigilant.

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Welcome back to another week with The 4th Box from the virtual Buckman Tavern! We're happy to have you back.

This week, we are taking a break from the normal "doom and gloom," and focusing on the solutions we can all be thinking about. As the world around us continues to slip into chaos, it's more important than ever to remove ourselves from the system that enslave us. So, this week we are breaking down a few simple, but important ways to do exactly that. It is all of our responsibilities to restore liberty for ourselves and our own families. At The 4th Box, we believe that we will never change the nation if we can not change our own homes. Join us as we take a look at a few easy ways to exit the system and take your individual power back.

Helpful Links:

• https://findaspring.org/
• https://www.giannamiceli.com/
• https://www.thehomesteadeducation.com/

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Palantir, Palantir, Palantir.

We keep hearing their name, but WHO are they? This week, we're asking the question and going deep in search of the answer. This clandestive tech company has rapidly become deeply invested in the inner-most factions of our government, so let's dissect the following:

• Who is Palantir?
• What do they do?
• History of Palantir
• What is their involvement with the government?
• Founders Peter Thiel and Alex Karp 101
• Where is Palantir headed?

We draw on the wisdom of Edward Snowden as we warn of what happens when you hand the keys to the castle to a company like this.

Helpful Resources:

• https://www.iqt.org/

• https://www.setav.org/en/palantirs-all-seeing-eye-domestic-surveillance-and-the-price-of-security

• https://www.wired.com/story/department-homeland-security-ice-billion-dollar-agreement-palantir/

• https://www.theringer.com/2026/02/26/tech/palantir-ceo-founder-controversy-explained-lotr-peter-thiel-alex-karp

• https://commandeleven.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Palantir-Technologies-The-Architecture-of-Total-Information-Surveillance.pdf

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In this week's episode, Bri is joined by Brant to discuss the 3 theoretical stages of a global collapse, what that looks like long-term, and what stage we are likely in today.

This conversation centrals around the systematic sabotaging of the systems the modern world relies on: agriculture, energy, technology, and more. We take a close look at the impact of AI, on both these systems and the individual, as well as the repurcussions of having a government controlled by big corporations. We go deep into Elon Musk's idea of a "universal high income" and the tariff refund checks being handed out to corporations, disregarding those of us who actually ate the cost of tariff-driven price increases.

Relevant Links:

• https://www.cbp.gov/trade/programs-administration/trade-remedies/ieepa-duty-refunds
• https://brightvideos.com/play/vid-8f5ba18a-d2a8-4da5-8fe2-09f34b2d6dbf/index.html

Tools for researching the Epstein Files:

• thewebb.io
• epsteinexposed.com

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Tonight, long-time friend and repeat guest of the show, Denny, sits down with Blaise for share some beers and thoughts on everything happening domestically and abroad.

We work through a wide range of issues shaping the global landscape- rom rising geopolitical tensions involving China and Russia to the ripple effects war will continue to have on supply chains and economic stability. Along the way, we discuss government overreach, unchecked spending, migration driven by overregulation, and the growing concern that political loyalty is replacing independent thought in leadership.

The conversation also turns toward accountability and resilience: the importance of term limits, the consequences of bloated government, and the need for citizens to think critically rather than follow party lines. We highlight an unusual story about a 14-year-old running for governor in Vermont as a lens into political awareness and the possibility of generational change. As always, we bring the discussion back to practical action- encouraging preparedness, self-sufficiency, and strong local communities in uncertain times- while reflecting on the deeper spiritual dimension many see behind today’s conflicts: the enduring struggle between truth and deception, good and evil.

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Recorded before the recent "ceasefire" and violation of it, we dive straight into the shocking Easter message from Donald Trump and what it reveals about the mindset of our political leaders. We move deeper into the conversation of our country's involvement in an illegal war- one that brings no benefit to the American people while contributing to devastating civilian casualties abroad through U.S. funding and weaponry. We question how these actions square with campaign promises, and why so many continue to support them, especially when similar decisions under a Democratic president would have sparked outrage.

As the discussion expands, we explore the broader geopolitical fallout, from disrupted supply chains and rising fuel costs to the growing risk of food scarcity. We also question the timing and motivations behind the conflict, including whether it serves as a distraction from domestic issues, and examine the influence of global agendas like Agenda 2030. The episode touches on shifting political alignments, including figures like Javier Milei, and what that could signal about deeper power structures at play. We wrap by reflecting on the cyclical nature of history, the rise and fall of empires, and what it means to stand firm in your values today. From spiritual resilience to self-sufficiency, this episode is ultimately a call to ask questions, take responsibility in a world where narratives are constantly shifting, as always- stay vigilant.

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This week, we sit down with Dr. Beverly Jensen to examine the growing concerns surrounding electromagnetic radiation and the devices we use every day. From normal cell phone use to Wi-Fi router location, we break down what constant exposure may be doing to the human body, especially in children whose systems are still developing. Dr. Jensen shares both research and firsthand experience, raising serious questions about long-term health effects, regulatory oversight, and why safety standards have failed to keep pace with rapidly advancing technology.

We discuss practical ways to reduce exposure in your home, the role parents play in recognizing early warning signs, and what it looks like to take back control in an environment that prioritizes convenience over caution.

Dr. Jensen has started a powerful initiative, called 10 Million Moms for Safer Tech, through which she hopes to shift the culture by awakening mothers to the dangers of wireless tech. If we are going to rely on this level of technology, we also have a responsibility to understand its impact, and make informed decisions to protect ourselves and the next generation.

Information & Resources:
Visit the EMF website dedicated to children:
www.KidsAndEMF.com

Download the free EMF protection guide:
www.kidsandemf.com/emf-protection-guide/

For more information:
www.womensmedicinebowl.com