Hi! Please join me and my guest host Dani Joy as we continue with the next section of our conversation on spiritual trauma from our perspectives as a mother of loss to adoption and as a late discovery adopted person, raised in white, Christian contexts.

Dani Joy is a mom and a homesteader. She can be found at:https://medium.com/@danijoy

https://www.hillarylmcbride.com/holy-hurt

Mentioned in the episode:

https://editionsdujournal.groupelivre.com/products/ne-mappelez-pas-roxana?variant=48067092021505

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=core+emotions+chart&form=HDRSC3&first=1

https://buddhistlearning.org/how-to-meditate-a-beginners-guide-to-buddhist-meditation/ This is a beginners quide to Buddhist meditation principles. Including this here is not an endorsement of a religion or a religious practice. This is provided because it includes what I was taught when attending meditation sessions at a local Buddhist monastery.

Exploring our emotions, learning to recognize and to name them, can be overwhelming if we are not used to doing so. If you are feeling dysregulated or distressed, please seek support. I am including here links to some resources that might align with your needs.

https://www.thetrevorproject.org/

https://rainn.org/

https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health

The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions.

The host is not a lawyer, a therapist or an adoption professional.

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Please join us as we continue our conversation around spiritual trauma and adoption as we work our way through the book Holy Hurt: Understanding Spiritual Trauma and the Process of Healing by Hillary L McBride PhD . Todays' episode explores the concept of spiritual bypassing as a coping mechanism to avoid feeling our core emotions. Joining me again today is Dani Joy, mom, homesteader, exvangelical.

Dani can be found at: https://medium.com/@danijoy

https://hillarylmcbride.com/holy-hurt-book/

https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health

The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions.

The host is not a lawyer, a therapist or an adoption professional.

Thank you for listening!

Please join Dani Joy and I as we delve into the core emotions and how we are born with these crucial forms of communication. We continue to explore how adoption and spiritual trauma intersect, using the book Holly Hurt as a framework for our discussion.

Dani Joy can be found at: https://medium.com/@danijoy

https://hillarylmcbride.com/holy-hurt-book/

Mentioned in the episode:

https://www.relinquishedbook.com/

https://savingoursistersadoption.org/saving-our-sisters-about-us/

https://thefamilypreservationproject.com/

https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health

The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions

The host is not a lawyer, a therapist or an adoption professional

Thank you for listening!

Please join Dani Joy and I as we continue our conversation about spiritual trauma and adoption. We are using the book Holy Hurt: Understanding Spiritual Trauma and the Process of Healing by Hillary L McBride, PhD as a scaffold for our conversation. We just started Chapter 5!

How do the roles of victim, villain and rescuer play out in your life? What do they have to do with spiritual trauma? With adoption? Let us know what you think after you join us for the episode.

Dani Joy can be found at: https://medium.com/@danijoy

She loves to hear from people!

https://hillarylmcbride.com/books/

https://mental-health-matters.org/2021/01/20/what-is-the-karpman-drama-triangle/

https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health

The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions,

The host is not a lawyer, a therapist or an adoption professional

Thank you for listening!

Please join Dani Joy and me as we continue to discuss spiritual trauma and adoption. I am a Late Discovery, Intercountry adopted person. Dani is a mother of loss to adoption.

Dani can be found at https://medium.com/@danijoy

https://hillarylmcbride.com/holy-hurt-book/

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/generational-trauma

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12220155/

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6378493/

https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health

The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions

the host is not a lawyer, therapist, or an adoption professional

thank you for listening

Please join Dani Joy and I as we continue to explore spiritual trauma using the book Holy Hurt by Hillary L McBride Phd as a scaffold for our discussion. How might these spiritual wounds relate to Dani's experience as a mother of loss to adoption? How has my being an adopted person been shaped by spiritual trauma? In this installment we talk about the return to the familiar, even when the familiar hurts.

Dani Joy is a mother of loss to adoption, a homesteader and blogger. She can be found at: https://medium.com/@danijoy

https://hillarylmcbride.com/holy-hurt-book/

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/post-traumatic-stress-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355967

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24881-cptsd-complex-ptsd

https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health

The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions

The host is not a lawyer, a therapist or an adoption professional

Thank you for listening.

Please join Dani Joy and I as we discuss the section What we need from the beginning, from the book Holy Hurt by Hilary L McBride, PhD.

Dani is a mother of loss to adoption, as well as a homesteader, advocate and writer. Dani can be found at: https://medium.com/@danijoy

https://hillarylmcbride.com/holy-hurt-book/

https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health

The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions.

The host is not a lawyer, a therapist or an adoption professional

Thank you for listening!

California Alliance For Adoptee Rights and Senator Wahab have a bill being heard in the Health Committee this Tuesday, 23 June 2026. They need you to call the members of the Health Committee to ask that they vote yes on the bill as it is written, without amendments.

Please follow the link to find a script and the phone numbers of the members of the Health Committee.

https://www.facebook.com/CAadopteerights/posts/pfbid034DfNoKF8Kd3KM7c5jHPbu7XEAKBGkhFMbmLAH2GTVTzBQLcbjkZsFadKhyvMaBgSl

If for some reason the link does not work, please go to California Alliance for Adoptee Rights and click on the featured post at the top of the page.

Thank you so much for your support.

The host is not a lawyer, a therapist or an adoption professional.

The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions.

Thank you for listening.

Please join me and Dani Joy as we continue our conversation about the intersection of spiritual trauma and adoption. We are talking trauma, just nonstop, processing! It's so fun. Come have fun with us! We are using the book Holy Hurt; Understanding Spiritual Trauma and the Process of Healing as a scaffold for our conversations.

Dani can be found at: https://medium.com/@danijoy

I can be found here, pretty much.

https://hillarylmcbride.com/holy-hurt-book/

https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health

The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions

The host is not a lawyer, a therapist or an adoption professional

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Please join me and Dani Joy as we continue to address spiritual trauma from our lived experience as a mother of loss to adoption and as a late discovery adopted person.

Dani can be found at: https://medium.com/@danijoy

https://hillarylmcbride.com/holy-hurt-book/

https://www.healthcentral.com/mental-health/get-help-mental-health

The opinions of the host and their guest are just that- their opinions

The host is not a lawyer, therapist, or an adoption professional.

Thank you for listening!