In this episode of the Alchemist Nation Real Estate Podcast, I take to Gino Barbaro, one of the best multifamily investors in the country. He says that when you start a podcast, you're always thinking about monetizing, and just like anything in life, there are so many ancillary benefits to everything you do. You get into multi-family because of cash flow but there are so many different benefits, you don't know what and when to start but when you start, just start. Once you start, it is like cash flow. appreciation, tax benefits, principal pay down, cycle resiliency, hedge against resilience, economies of scale, becoming a multifamily entrepreneur, it goes on and on. When he first started out, he wanted to buy and hold forever which was his mantra and he didn't start out like Rod Khleif or other investors. He and Jake were knowledgeable enough and they were buying properties by themselves, they didn't have syndication as a model, as a tool. They used owner financing, they started out with a little bit of capital, and from there, they bought their first deal, did really very well, refinanced it, bought the next one, and the next one, and a few years later, they have a 1000 units, and they are able to refinance 11 million dollars from their portfolio, and they started syndication. So everybody out there, don't look at multifamily as a pie in the sky thing because we all need to start from somewhere and multifamily to me is a team sport. That is one thing he loves about it whether you're great at underwriting or great a raising capital, or great at creating a business, or putting business systems together or running day to day, whatever that looks like, that's what multifamily is all about. Don't get into real estate for landlording, get into it to create a business.