In this powerful and transparent episode of the P4P Podcast, DJ Garces is joined by Inspire Church's Lead Pastors, Mike and Lisa Kai, the church's new CFO, Sebastian Buffa, and long-time leader Ju Frigilana. Together, they explore what it takes to lead with conviction, fail forward with grace, and steward a thriving ministry culture. From hilarious honesty about borrowing your spouse's leadership lessons to sobering insights on conflict, criticism, and calling, this episode dives deep into the heart of leadership in the church. You'll hear untold stories behind the Arise Women's Conference, the behind-the-scenes growth of Inspire Church, and how leadership pain becomes a platform for greater capacity. Whether you're leading a team, navigating seasons of burnout, or figuring out how to be a "thermostat" and not just a thermometer, this conversation is packed with wisdom, humility, and vision.