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Videos have surfaced showing Palestinians in Gaza rising up against Hamas. How significant are these protests? Do they mark a genuine turning point in public sentiment, or are they a fleeting moment of frustration? And what would it take for this unrest to evolve into a broader political shift or a change in leadership?

A recent Gallup poll found that more than half of Gazans would leave if given the chance. Meanwhile, Israel’s message to civilians has been stark: “The solution is in your hands. Hamas is insisting on taking you to hell.”

For the past 18 months, Israel has maintained that Hamas will not survive this war because there is no viable future, for anyone, while Hamas remains in power.

In this episode, host Aviva Klompas is joined by Dr. Michael Oren to discuss the protests, whether they signal a deeper shift within Gaza, and what it will take to imagine — and build — a future without Hamas.

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Referenced in this episode:

Gallup International Poll

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