In a special episode taken from our business show, How to be a CEO, the Evening Standard's business editor Jonathan Prynn speaks with 2011 The Apprentice winner Tom Pellereau, whose business is thriving, 13 years later.

To hear the full interview just search How to be a CEO wherever you find your podcasts, or via this link: lnk.to/TAWjEL

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