It’s the season finale! We’re revisiting all of our fantastic guests from this season, as they answer our biggest blue-sky question of them all: but is it Art? Kim and Patricia provide some background on the question’s interesting origins – and their own reflections – as we wrap up a season that has featured 10 incredible folks from all different areas of the art world. Whatever your favorite episode of the season was, this is the one you won’t want to miss!

Mentions:

Pazo Fine Art; 

Brian Michael Dunn; 

E.E. Ikeler; 

Jonah Frank; 

Weissman Museum of Art; 

Karl Handel; 

Andrea Gyorody; 

Susanne Vielmetter;

Vielmetter Los Angeles; 

Whitney Bedford; 

John Divola; 

John Baldessari; 

Al Held; 

Herman Maril Teaching and Research Gallery; 

Marcel Duchamp; 

Lisa Diane Wedgeworth; 

Elyse Driscol; 

Melissa Huddleson; 

Anne Gauldin; 

Yayoi Shionoiri; 

Powerhouse Arts; 

Julie Wolfe; 

Molas; 

The Getty Museum; 

Sala Elise Patterson; 

Elizabeth Botten; 

Ruby Lerner; 

Nancy Baker Cahill; 

Arcane series; 

La Jetée; 

The Rehearsal/Nathan Fielder; 

Matilde Guidelli Guidi; 

Walter De Maria; 

Rika Burnham; 

Marina Abramović; 

National Endowment for the Arts; 

Creative Capital; 

Anonymous Was A Woman.

We’re back in New York! Kim sits down with Dia Art Foundation curator Matilde Guidelli Guidi. The two unpack the central question of what a curator truly is and the work that they do to take an artist’s ideas into reality. Covering Dia’s programming (encompassing both changing and permanent sites and the work of a focused group of artists across the 1960s and 70s), Kim and Matilde chat about the process of realizing works sited in the natural landscape, the complexities of pulling off year-long exhibitions, and reimagining the gallery as a discursive and community space. Finally, Matilde gives us an overview of one day in a curator’s life (and it’s jam-packed, as you might expect)!

Mentions: 

Matilde Guidelli Guidi; 

Dia Art Foundation; 

Leslie Hewitt; 

Mario Merz; 

Senga Nengudi; 

Cameron Rowland; 

Meg Webster; 

Jack Whitten; 

Walter De Maria; 

Max Neuhaus; 

Joseph Beuys; 

Musée du Louvre; 

Paula Cooper Gallery; 

Whitney Museum of American Art; 

Artists on Artists Lecture Series; 

Lynne Cook; 

Dia:Beacon; 

Steve McQueen; 

Museum of Modern Art (MoMA);

Christian Marclay; 

The Clock (Christian Marclay); 

Venice Biennale; 

Lucy Raven; 

Martine Syms; 

The Lightning Field (Walter De Maria); 

Dan Graham; 

Robert Irwin; 

Louise Lawler; 

Bird Calls (Louise Lawler); 

Randy Gibson; 

Bridget Donahue Gallery; 

Jordan Carter; 

Ella den Elzen; 

Kim Golding.

In this episode, Kim and Patricia revisit our ongoing Art & Tech series with transdisciplinary artist Nancy Baker Cahill! Nancy walks us through the origins and inflection points within her artistic practice, spanning paper drawings, virtual reality projects, and monumental augmented reality exhibitions. Our trio discusses some of Nancy’s key literary influences, the animal experience of motherhood, and an artist’s cannibalization of her archive. We also dive into complicated questions of resource use in AR artworks and the translation and transmutation of creative forces. This is a sparkling conversation you won’t want to miss!

Mentions:

LA Forum for Design and Architecture; 

LA Metro Art; 

Rebecca Mendez; 

Jamie Scholnick; 

Shinique Smith; 

Kim Schoenstadt; 

Kentura Davis; 

Nancy Baker Cahill; 

4th Wall app; 

The Art Newspaper; 

Frieze; 

The New York Times; 

Los Angeles Review of Books; 

Nam June Paik Art Center; 

October Magazine; 

The Berggruen Institute; 

LACMA Art+Tech Lab; 

Infinity Festival; 

Harvard Institute MetaLAB; 

Los Angeles Museum of Contemporary Art; 

Whitney Museum; 

Georgia Museum of Art; 

Smart Museum; 

RFC Art Collection; 

Winthrop University Collection; 

Hex Collection; 

Virtual Reality; 

Mixed Reality; 

Augmented Reality; 

Carole Ann Klonarides; 

Pasadena Museum of California Art; 

Drive Studios; 

Shaking Earth Digital; 

Clarice Lispector; 

Neoconcretistas/Neo-Concrete movement; 

Franz Kafka; 

Charlie James Gallery; 

Shana Nys Dambrot; 

Gene Youngblood; 

Jean Baudrillard; 

The Hammer Museum; 

Christiane Paul; 

Walter Annenberg Lecture; 

Machine learning; 

“Technofeudalism: What Killed Capitalism” by Yanis Varoufakis; 

“Psychopolitics: Neoliberalism and New Technologies of Power” by Byung-Chul Han; 

New York University Tandon School of Engineering; 

Carla Gannis; 

Zay Amsbury; 

“Unflattening” by Nick Sousanis; 

Len Lye; 

MASS MoCA.

Join us for a conversation with the founding director of Creative Capital and longtime arts advocate Ruby Lerner! In this solo episode, Kim sits down with Ruby as she shares invaluable advice about how artists can build a stronger network of long-term support. Ruby draws on her long history as an arts worker and supporter, and shares resources that people in the arts might already have that can move their career to the next level.

Mentions:

Ruby Lerner (rubylerner.com);

Creative Capital;

Herberger Institute;

Arizona State University;

Patty Disney Center for Life and Work;

CalArts;

Open Society Foundations;

Soros International Arts Fellowship;

Manhattan Theater Club;

Goucher College;

University of North Carolina;

Alternate ROOTS;

National Endowment for the Arts:

NEA v. Finley;

Archibald Gillies;

Andy Warhol Foundation;

John Baldessari;

Niegel Smith;

The Flea theater;

Mass MoCA.

In this episode, reference specialist Elizabeth Botten brings us behind the scenes at the Smithsonian’s Archives of American Art. The conversation dives into Elizabeth’s path to working at the Archives, how deep archival research really works, and everything that goes into documenting, preserving, and accessing original materials from artists and art world figures throughout American history. Kim and Patricia speak to their own unique experiences doing research in the Archives, and Elizabeth shares a selection of her favorite objects and some incredible stories from the collection.

Mentions:

The Museum of the City of New York;

Shirley Chisholm;

Elizabeth Botten;

The Smithsonian Archives of American Art;

The National Portrait Gallery;

Taína Caragol;

Emilio Sanchez;

(Patricia’s blog) https://www.aaa.si.edu/blog/2020/08/emilio-sanchezs-photographic-sources;

Catherine Opie;

Georgia O’Keeffe;

Smithsonian Artist Research Fellowship;

Jan van der Marck;

Museum of Contemporary Art Chicago;

Esther McCoy;

Florence Knoll;

Walt Kuhn;

1913 Armory Show;

Marcel Duchamp;

Florence Allen;

Isabel Bishop;

Warren Chappell;

Eleanor Dickinson;

Trek magazine;

Miné Okubo;

Chiura Obata;

Walt Whitman;

Naul Ojeda;

Federico García Lorca;

Pablo Neruda.

Today, our hosts are sitting down with arts writer and cultural storyteller Sala Elise Patterson! The trio discusses the dynamic breadth of Sala’s practice, from experimental documentary projects and her work as a trustee of The Phillips Collection, to her path writing for outlets such as The Atlantic, Kinfolk, Harvard Design Magazine, Vogue, British Journal of Photography and The New York Times. Covering topics such as Black visibility in art, reimagining the “artist’s muse,” and the politics of architectural design, this is an urgent and beautifully honest conversation about writing - and so much more.

Mentions:

The Wadsworth Atheneum;

William Kentridge;

Phala O. Phala;

Nhlanhla Mahlangu;

André Breton;

Claude Levi Strauss;

Wifredo Lam;

Amié Césaire;

Frantz Fanon;

The Nardal Sisters;

Frida Kahlo;

Sala Elise Patterson;

Adrienne Fidelin;

The Phillips Collection;

Elizabeth Bishop;

Protect: Coastlines, Guns and Women in the Low Country, https://www.twolanefilms.com/protect;

Adrienne Fidelin;

Man Ray;

Saidiya Hartman;

Lee Miller;

Dora Maar;

Paul Éluard.

We're back at the Getty! Today, Kim is solo and chatting with Julie Wolfe, sculpture conservator at The Getty Museum. The pair discuss Julie's path to museum conservation, her book on Roy Lichtenstein's outdoor painted sculptures, and the realities of art couriering. Diving deep into the significance and evolving science of sculpture conservation, Julie offers insights into what it means to steward art for future generations. Bonus tip - be sure to stay for the bloopers at the end of the episode!

Welcome to the conservation lab! Kim and Patricia bring on two art conservators from the Getty Research Institute, Melissa Huddleston and Elyse Driscoll, to discuss their paths to becoming conservators, the excitements and challenges of conservation work, and some of their favorite objects in the Getty's collection. Melissa and Elyse offer fascinating insight into the intricacies of the art conservation field and the exiting projects they're working on now.

We're off to New York! Patricia takes us inside the 2025 College Art Association conference in New York City. Patricia and guest interviewees bring listeners through the experience of being at a conference centered around scholarship and teaching in the visual arts. Providing history, a summary of some of this year's speakers, and artist interviews, this episode brings us back to the central theme of netweaving in the current moment.

Welcome to LA Art Week 2025! Kim gives Patricia a rundown of her experience attending Frieze LA and Felix Art Fair. Including interview clips from surprise guests, our hosts break down the emotional landscape of this year's fairs. Offering thoughts on the relevance of the art fair model and where people from different art world backgrounds fit into the fair ecosystem, Kim, Patricia, and guests talk about approaching the 2025 LA art fairs as a site of netweaving and connection.

Mentions:

John McWhorter, “How ‘Woke’ Became the ‘Woke Right’ (and Why It Shouldn’t Surprise Anyone)" https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/20/opinion/the-long-strange-trail-of-woke.html;

Felix Art Fair;

Frieze LA Art Fair;

Gramercy International Art Fair;

Chateau Marmont;

Dependent Art Fair;

Post-Fair;

wHY Architecture;

Yayoi Shionoiri;

Sarah Conley Odenkirk;

Powerhouse Arts, NY;

ArtConverge;

Christina Valentine;

ArtCenter College of Design;

College Art Association;

Mary Leigh Cherry;

Cherryworks;

Julia Colavita.