When you sit down at a restaurant to eat, there are so many things that need to happen that never occur to you. That’s where Kimberly Grant comes in. She’s the CEO of José Andrés’ company, and before that, one of the top executives at Ruby Tuesday. Kimberly joined Anna to talk about what makes a restaurant a success, the weird spat between her boss and Donald Trump, and why sterling credentials aren’t always a match for real-world experience.

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