
Sign up to save your podcasts
Or


What if the self isn't a thing but a model? In this episode, we follow the predictive processing framework to its most radical conclusion: the self as a particularly persistent, heavily weighted prior that the brain runs to organize everything else. We explore what happens when meditation begins to loosen that model from Focused Attention to Open Monitoring to the non-dual states that contemplative traditions have described for centuries. Along the way, we look at what neuroscience says about those states, why psychedelic-assisted therapy and deep meditation appear to be working on the same system, and what enlightenment might actually mean in computational terms. We close with a question about pain, suffering, and a Zen master who one day decided to burn all his books.
Show Notes:
What if everything you perceive is your brain’s best guess not reality itself? In this first episode, we explore a 2021 paper by Ruben Laukkonen and Heleen Slagter that bridges cutting-edge neuroscience with ancient contemplative wisdom, and finds they’ve been describing the same thing from opposite directions.
We cover the Predictive Processing framework the idea that your brain is a prediction machine, sealed in darkness, running a controlled hallucination we call reality. We trace what this means for consciousness, for suffering, for the Default Mode Network, and for the self. And we follow the thread all the way through to what meditation actually does, mechanically, to the architecture of the mind and why that matters for depression, anxiety, and the therapeutic process.
Paper Referenced: “From Many to N-one: Meditation and the Plasticity of the Predictive Mind” Laukkonen & Slagter, Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Reviews, 2021.
Topics: Predictive Processing · Bayesian Brain · Default Mode Network · Focused Attention · Open Monitoring · Radical Plasticity · Ego dissolution · Psychedelics & therapy · Dukkha · Dogen · Therapy · ACT Therapy · Mindfulness · Meditation
Show Notes:
From the publisher's feed
The Backward Step is a podcast that sits at the intersection of neuroscience, contemplative practice, and the therapeutic mind.
Each episode takes a single piece of…
The name comes from Dogen Zenji's instruction in the Fukanzazengi: "Take the backward step that turns the light and shines it inward." That move away from the surface, toward what's underneath is the spirit of this show.
Hosted by Anuj Ansal, a practicing psychotherapist in Chicago, IL, The Backward Step is for anyone drawn to the deep questions: meditators and clinicians, neuroscience enthusiasts and contemplatives, and anyone who has ever lain awake wondering what is actually going on behind their eyes.