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On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I welcome back actor and songwriter James Woods for the third installment of our ongoing conversation about his album The Killer’s Wife. Over the course of these three interviews, we’ve explored the origins of the project, the musicians and creative team responsible for bringing it to life, and the decisions that shaped its sound and visual identity. This time, we dig further into the individual songs, examining the stories behind the lyrics, the musical choices that give those stories their emotional weight, and the creative process that continues to evolve as James reflects on the album.
We begin by discussing James’s songwriting partnership with Bob Wayne and the importance of allowing different artists to interpret the same material. James explains why he often prefers to let Bob read his lyrics without offering an explanation, giving him the freedom to discover his own musical interpretation. We also talk about producer Shooter Jennings and the remarkable musicians who contribute to these recordings. From a subtle banjo part to an unexpected harmonic shift, James shares how small creative suggestions can transform a song. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes the collaborative nature of the project and the importance of creating an environment where everyone feels comfortable contributing ideas.
Much of our discussion centers on the storytelling within The Killer’s Wife. James takes us deeper into songs including “Harm’s Way,” “Man on the Radio,” “Wellfleet Cadillac,” “My Baby Girl,” and the album’s title track. He explains the historical references and hidden details woven into the lyrics, including the meaning behind the address “1620 Old Harm’s Way,” which he challenged me to decipher during our previous conversation. We also discuss the distinction between a character’s external quest and internal journey, the relationship between musical beauty and unsettling subject matter, and the deliberate contrasts that help the album unfold as a complete listening experience.
One particularly interesting part of our conversation explores the recording of “Man on the Radio.” James describes how an initial lyrical idea developed into a much larger musical scene, complete with a fictional radio broadcast, spontaneous performances, and an improvised passage representing the central character’s increasingly disturbed thoughts. We also discuss “Wellfleet Cadillac,” where a melodic arrangement creates a striking contrast with the darkness of the underlying story, and “My Baby Girl,” which James approaches through the perspective of a father trying to protect his daughter while recognizing that she must ultimately make her own decisions. Along the way, we return to the album’s central theme: the struggle between good and evil, and the possibility that compassion and moral courage can overcome even the darkest circumstances.
Our conversation also becomes deeply personal. James talks about his relationship with Sarah, whose photography and artistic direction have become essential parts of the Breakheart Music projects, and how their life together has given him the freedom to pursue songwriting. We discuss the influence of family, the people who help shape our lives, and the ways music can preserve our connections to those we’ve lost. I share some thoughts about my own father and the reasons I started this podcast, leading to a particularly meaningful exchange about music, memory, and the relationships that continue to influence us long after someone is gone.
As we bring this three-part conversation to a close, James reflects on what he’s learned about songwriting, collaboration, and trusting his creative instincts. He also shares some of the ideas taking shape for future recordings, including new approaches to arranging songs and allowing different musical interpretations to coexist. What I appreciate most about these conversations is James’s willingness to examine the process behind the music, sometimes discovering new connections and meanings in his own work as we’re talking. This final installment offers another perspective on The Killer’s Wife and the people, experiences, and creative decisions that brought the album to life.
Key Takeaways
Music from the Episode
The Killer's Wife - James Woods
Harm's Way - James Woods
Shadows of the Past - James Woods
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by musician Brad Williams, featuring thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, composers, producers, and other creative artists.
Through discussions about musical influences, creative processes, collaboration, and the experiences that shape an artist’s work, the show explores not only how music gets made, but why it matters.
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Explore James Woods’s music, physical album releases, and additional information through his official website and Breakheart Music.
Episode Summary
On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I’m joined by drummer, singer, and session musician Remy Morritt. Originally from Seattle and now based in Los Angeles, Remy has built a career working with some remarkable artists, including Lizzy McAlpine, Christian Lee Hutson, Role Model, Fenne Lily, and Joey Dosik. We talk about his journey from playing along with records as a kid to becoming an in-demand studio and touring musician, and how his approach to the drums has evolved along the way.
Remy grew up surrounded by music, with parents who introduced him to artists like The Police, Steely Dan, Rush, and The Beatles, and an older sister who opened his ears to an entirely different world of music. We discuss those early influences, his years studying jazz at the University of Washington with drummer Ted Poor, and the importance of developing your ears and musical instincts before becoming too concerned with technique.
A big part of our conversation centers on Remy’s work with Lizzy McAlpine. He shares how he became part of her touring band, what it’s like recording with Lizzy and her collaborators, and how he approaches supporting a singer whose music depends so much on dynamics, melody, and emotional expression. We also get into the creative process behind his drum part on “A car wash and a new pair of pants,” and why being recognized for your individual musical voice can be more rewarding than simply delivering a technically perfect performance.
We spend time discussing the differences between recording remotely and working in a studio with other musicians, the challenges of balancing touring with life at home, and the evolution of Remy’s playing toward a more restrained, song-centered approach. His appreciation for drummers like Levon Helm, Jim Keltner, and Jeff Porcaro leads us into a conversation about feel, time, and the subtle decisions that make a drum part memorable.
What I particularly enjoyed about this conversation was Remy’s perspective on developing an identity as a musician. We talk about listening as a skill, learning directly from recordings, and understanding that the most important thing isn’t necessarily how much you can play, but whether what you’re playing actually serves the music.
Connect with Remy Morritt through his website or Instagram to learn more about his work, recording services, and upcoming performances.
Key Takeaways
Music from the Episode
High Hopes 3000 - Role Model
Carousel Horses - Christian Lee Hutson
Spring Into Summer - Lizzy McAlpine
A car wash and a new pair of pants - Lizzy McAlpine
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by musician Brad Williams. Each episode features conversations with musicians, songwriters, producers, and artists about their careers, creative processes, musical influences, and the experiences that shape their work. Through thoughtful, musician-to-musician conversations, the show explores not just the music people make, but how and why they make it.
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On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Italian classical guitarist and artistic researcher Giacomo Copiello to explore the relationship between technique, musical expression, and the instruments we play. Giacomo shares his journey from rock guitar to classical music and how his studies shaped his approach to performance and interpretation.
We discuss the eight-string Brahms Guitar, Paul Galbraith’s innovative vertical playing system, and how changes in posture and technique can open new musical possibilities. Giacomo also talks about his doctoral research at the University of Surrey, where he used performance, transcription, and experimentation to explore the connection between artistic practice and musical discovery.
We also explore his fascination with the human voice and how it influences his arrangements of music by Schubert and Mendelssohn. Throughout our conversation, Giacomo offers thoughtful insights into phrasing, interpretation, and the ways musicians can push beyond the traditional limitations of their instruments.
Key Takeaways
Music from the Episode
Felix Mendelssohn - Lieder ohne Worte, Op. 67 No. 2, MWV U 145: II. Allegro leggiero (Arr. G. Copiello for 2 Guitars)- Giacomo Copiello & Michele Tedesco
Franz Schubert - Schwanengesang, D. 957: No. 1, Liebesbotschaft (Arr. for Guitar by Giacomo Copiello)- Giacomo Copiello
Franz Schubert - Schwanengesang, D. 957: No. 4, Ständchen (Arr. for Guitar by Giacomo Copiello)- Giacomo Copiello
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by musician Brad Williams, featuring thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, composers, producers, and other creative artists. Through discussions about musical influences, creative processes, collaboration, and the experiences that shape an artist’s work, the show explores not only how music gets made, but why it matters.
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To learn more about Giacomo Copiello, explore his performances, recordings, research, and arrangements through his official website, YouTube channel, and social media.
Episode Summary
On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with bluegrass singer-songwriter Caroline Owens to discuss musical influences, songwriting, artistic growth, and the importance of honesty in music. Caroline has one of those voices that immediately makes you believe what she’s singing. Throughout our conversation, we explore where that authenticity comes from and how it shapes her approach to both performing and writing songs.
We talk about Caroline’s early years growing up in Denton, North Carolina, where bluegrass music and nightly jam sessions were part of everyday life. She shares how Dolly Parton and Alison Krauss helped shape her musical identity, not simply through their singing but through the way they approached their music and treated others. We also discuss the remarkable experience of seeing musical heroes become friends and collaborators, including her work with The Isaacs, and why stepping outside your comfort zone is essential to growing as an artist.
A significant part of our conversation centers on Caroline’s project Low Flying Planes. She shares the story behind the title track, a deeply personal song she wrote several years ago and held onto until she felt ready to record it. We discuss the musicians who helped bring the project to life, the remarkable efficiency and creativity of Nashville’s studio players, and the challenges of finding the right moment to release music that means something to you.
We also spend time discussing Evangeline, a song Caroline co-wrote with Lacey Green that explores domestic abuse through the lens of traditional bluegrass storytelling. Caroline explains how the song challenged some of the genre’s familiar narratives and why she felt compelled to tell the story from a different perspective. She shares some of the deeply personal responses she’s received from listeners who recognize their own experiences, or those of someone they love, in the song.
Throughout our conversation, we return to the idea that great music doesn’t have to be complicated to be meaningful. Whether we’re talking about the influence of songwriters like Dean Dillon, Robert Lee Castleman, and John Pennell, or the responsibility of carrying musical traditions forward, Caroline brings a thoughtful perspective to the relationship between a song, the person singing it, and the people listening.
Key Takeaways
Music from the Episode
Telluride - Caroline Owens
Old Time Church - Caroline Owens (feat. The Isaacs)
Evangeline - Caroline Owens
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by musician Brad Williams, featuring thoughtful conversations with artists, musicians, songwriters, producers, and other creative voices. Each episode explores the experiences, influences, collaborations, and creative decisions that shape a life in music. From the stage to the studio and everywhere in between, The Bandwich Tapes goes beyond the music to discover the stories and people behind it.
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On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with Austin-based singer-songwriter Ella Reid for an honest and entertaining conversation about finding your creative voice, navigating the realities of the music business, and learning when it’s time to explore something new. Originally from Minnesota, Ella’s journey has taken her through screenwriting, graphic design, and eventually to Texas, where she’s spent more than a decade building a career as a working musician. We talk about the musical influences that shaped her, from Guns N’ Roses and Gwen Stefani to the Indigo Girls, Ani DiFranco, and Broadway musicals, and how those seemingly different worlds continue to find their way into her songwriting.
Ella shares how developing her voice as a songwriter required more than simply learning to put words and melodies together. It meant becoming comfortable with vulnerability, learning to communicate emotions more directly, and understanding the importance of specificity in storytelling. We discuss the years she spent writing songs, the lessons she learned from other songwriters, and why she’s never been particularly interested in limiting herself to a single genre. Whether a song calls for country, pop, folk, rock, or even disco, Ella believes the music should go wherever the song needs to go.
We also get into the realities of making a living as an independent musician. Ella talks candidly about building her career through open mics, breweries, wineries, and venues throughout the Austin area, and the challenges of transitioning from performing for an existing audience to selling tickets to her own shows. We discuss the demands of booking, marketing, social media, and maintaining a creative identity while handling the business responsibilities that come with being an independent artist. It’s a conversation about perseverance, but also about recognizing your limits and finding ways to make a sustainable life in music.
One of the most interesting parts of our conversation is Ella’s return to her roots in screenwriting and musical theater. She’s been developing an original musical called The Death of Jerry Pine, a comedy exploring the lives, relationships, and struggles of performers trying to find their place in the world. Writing thirteen songs for the project has also led her deeper into music production, working in Logic Pro, experimenting with orchestration, and exploring opportunities in cinematic music and film and television licensing.
What I particularly appreciated about talking with Ella was her willingness to be candid about the uncertainty that comes with a creative career. She’s proud of what she’s accomplished, but she’s also asking important questions about what comes next. We talk about the difference between persistence and simply exhausting yourself, the importance of making art that feels genuine, and why sometimes the best way forward is to permit yourself to change direction.
Key Takeaways
Music from the Episode
Nobody But Me - Ella Reid
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a podcast hosted by musician Brad Williams, featuring thoughtful conversations with musicians, songwriters, composers, producers, and other creative artists. Through discussions of musical influences, creative processes, collaboration, and the experiences that shape an artist’s work, the show explores not only how music is made but also why it matters.
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On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with drummer Richie Morales for a wide-ranging conversation about groove, versatility, preparation, and a career spent playing alongside some remarkable musicians.
Richie takes me back to his early years in Chicago and New York, where an eclectic musical upbringing and a willingness to learn opened doors to gigs with Ray Barretto, the Brecker Brothers, Spyro Gyra, Grover Washington Jr., Mike Stern, Al Di Meola, Dave Valentin, Bill Evans, and many others. We talk in depth about joining the Brecker Brothers, the intensity required to play that music, and what it meant to share a drum chair once occupied by some of his own heroes.
We also dig into Richie’s years with Spyro Gyra and the importance of developing a personal voice within an established band’s sound. Richie talks about working alongside great percussionists, learning the language of Afro-Cuban and Brazilian music on the bandstand, and understanding how a drummer and percussionist can create one unified rhythmic voice without getting in each other’s way.
A large part of our conversation is about education—not only Richie’s years as a teacher, but the kind of education that happens by playing with musicians who are more experienced than you. Richie reflects on the master-apprentice tradition that shaped him, his decision to return to school later in his career, and what today’s young musicians gain—and sometimes miss—in a world increasingly shaped by conservatories, YouTube, and social media.
And through all of it, we keep coming back to something fundamental: feel. Technique matters. Reading matters. Preparation matters. Versatility matters. But as Richie puts it, the feel is why people call you back.
Key Takeaways
• Richie traces his versatility to an early musical environment filled with rock, blues, jazz, Latin music, classical music, R&B, and pop.
• His relationship with Randy and Michael Brecker grew out of New York’s club scene, particularly Seventh Avenue South, eventually leading to touring and recording with the Brecker Brothers.
• Playing the Brecker Brothers’ music required intensity, deep pocket, stylistic authenticity, interaction, and the ability to move comfortably between R&B, jazz, Afro-Cuban, Brazilian, and fusion vocabulary.
• Richie credits musicians including Ray Barretto, Manolo Badrena, Don Alias, Sammy Figueroa, and others with helping him understand how drums and percussion can work together as one rhythmic voice.
• His years with Spyro Gyra gave him time to move beyond simply learning an established band’s sound and begin putting his own musical personality into the music.
• Preparation and professionalism have been as important to Richie’s career as technique: learn the music, understand the style, show up ready, and don’t make the same mistake twice.
• Richie sees enormous value in music education and modern technology, but believes there is still no substitute for playing with experienced musicians and learning on the bandstand.
Music from the Episode
Bright Lights - Spyro Gyra
Spirit Walk - Richie Morales
Piri Ti Latino - Spyro Gyra
Pan Caribe - Richie Morales
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a musician-to-musician conversation about the people, experiences, and ideas behind the music. I talk with artists about their careers, creative process, collaborations, influences, and the lessons they’ve learned along the way.
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On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I'm joined once again by actor, writer, and songwriter James Woods for the second installment of our three-part conversation about his new album, The Killer's Wife. After exploring James's transition into songwriting and the beginnings of this remarkable project in our first conversation, we return to take a closer look at the music itself, the stories behind the songs, and the creative partnership that brought the album to life.
James takes us inside his collaboration with songwriter and musician Bob Wayne and Grammy-winning producer Shooter Jennings. We discuss how James's lyrics become the foundation for Bob's compositions, how Shooter approaches the recording process, and why the three have developed such a strong creative relationship. James also shares stories from the sessions at Sunset Sound, the musicians who helped shape the record, and the importance of allowing a song to develop naturally rather than forcing it into a predetermined structure.
Much of our conversation focuses on the cinematic nature of The Killer's Wife. James explains how the album gradually developed into a larger narrative built around a fictional radio broadcast and tent revival, with themes of good and evil, faith, violence, redemption, and hope. We explore the origins of "I Am the Blazing Sun" and "Hearts of Men," two songs that eventually became the album's musical and thematic bookends, and how an unexpected creative breakthrough helped bring the entire concept together.
We also dig into the songwriting itself, including "Shadows of the Past," "Early Ripe, Early Rotten," "The Killer's Wife," and "Harm's Way." James shares how personal memories, literature, mythology, film, and even something as simple as a street sign can become the starting point for a song. He explains why a single word can transform a lyric, how he decides what to reveal to the listener, and why he's willing to let the music reshape the structure of his writing.
What I enjoyed most about this conversation was hearing James examine his own creative process, sometimes discovering connections and influences he hadn't consciously considered while writing. It's a fascinating look at an artist finding a new form of expression, and at a group of collaborators who trust one another enough to take creative risks.
This is part two of our three-part series with James Woods. We'll continue our exploration of The Killer's Wife in the next episode, going further into the songs, the production, and the stories behind the album.
Key Takeaways
Music from the Episode
The Hearts of Men - James Woods
The Killer's Wife - James Woods
Shadows of the Past - James Woods
Harm's Way - James Woods
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by musician Brad Williams. Each episode features conversations with musicians, songwriters, producers, and artists about their careers, creative processes, musical influences, and the experiences that shape their work. Through thoughtful, musician-to-musician conversations, the show explores not just the music people make, but how and why they make it.
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On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with twin brothers Chad and James Hampton, founders of Huntin’ the Truth Ministries, pastors, outdoorsmen, authors, and hosts of Twin Factor. Their work brings together faith, hunting, mentorship, and a simple question that has become central to their ministry: What are you hunting for?
Chad and James grew up hunting with their father, beginning with bow hunting when they were seven years old. What started as a shared love of the outdoors eventually became the foundation for Huntin’ the Truth Ministries in 2004. We talk about how they began using hunting as a way to connect with people, share their faith, and mentor young people—including kids growing up without fathers and children with disabilities.
We also spend time discussing their new devotional, 100 Days of Strength for Hunters. Chad and James explain why they believe everyone is hunting for something, whether or not they ever step into the woods. The devotional encourages readers to slow down, spend time with God, and think intentionally about what they are pursuing and where that pursuit is leading them.
Our conversation also gets into the challenges facing young people in a world increasingly dominated by technology, social media, and constant distraction. Chad and James share why they return to the biblical story of Solomon as an example of the difference between pursuing things that appear fulfilling and pursuing a life grounded in purpose, faith, and relationships.
Finally, we talk about what it has meant to spend their lives working together as twins. They share how their different strengths complement one another, how they have supported each other through difficult seasons, and why living out the principles they teach matters more than simply talking about them. We also discuss Twin Factor, their work with Gold Star families, and their upcoming talk show, What Do You Hunt For with the Twins?
Key Takeaways
• Chad and James began hunting with their father at seven years old, long before they realized the outdoors would eventually become central to their ministry.
• Huntin’ the Truth Ministries began in 2004 with a vision of using hunting and the outdoors as a way to share their faith, build relationships, and mentor others.
• Their devotional, 100 Days of Strength for Hunters, is built around the idea that everyone is pursuing something and encourages readers to intentionally consider what they are “hunting” for in life.
• Mentoring young people, particularly those without strong father figures in their lives, has been an important part of Chad and James’ work from the beginning.
• Through Twin Factor, the brothers have used television as an extension of their ministry, including helping create hunting experiences for Gold Star children who lost fathers on active duty.
• Chad and James see their twin relationship as both a source of accountability and a partnership in which their different strengths allow them to accomplish more together.
• Difficult seasons in their own lives have challenged them to live out the same lessons about faith, perseverance, and endurance that they share with others.
Theme music: "Playcation" by Mark Mundy
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a podcast about music, creativity, and the people behind the work, but the conversations often reach beyond music into the experiences, relationships, and ideas that shape our lives. I sit down with musicians, songwriters, artists, authors, and other guests for thoughtful conversations about their work, their stories, and what they have learned along the way.
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On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with guitarist Oz Noy for a conversation about the musical path he has built over three decades in New York, the players who have helped shape his music, and why clarity and groove remain at the center of his approach.
Oz talks about arriving in New York after already establishing himself as a working musician in Israel. Interestingly, becoming a solo artist was never really the plan. He simply wanted to play well, work with great musicians, and get gigs. His regular performances at the Bitter End gradually became a laboratory for developing his own music, eventually leading to recordings and a career as a bandleader.
We also get into Oz's fascination with great rhythm sections and the remarkable drummers he has worked with over the years, including Keith Carlock, Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Dennis Chambers, Anton Fig, and others. Oz's music has always been rooted in groove, and he talks about how moving to New York put him in the orbit of many of the musicians he had admired.
Oz also discusses his approach to practicing, improvisation, and teaching, along with his new instructional book on triad comping. For Oz, complexity isn't necessarily the goal. He is drawn to musical ideas that are clear and focused—whether that's an improvised line, a chord voicing, or an entire composition.
We finish by talking about his growing interest in the organ trio format, an upcoming organ trio album planned for 2027, and his loose, collaborative project with Joe Bonamassa, Will Lee, and Steve Ferrone. It's a conversation about developing a voice over time, finding the right musicians, and allowing musical ideas to evolve naturally.
Key Takeaways
• Oz never initially set out to become a solo artist. His career as a bandleader grew organically from playing his own gigs after moving to New York.
• His regular performances at the Bitter End became an important laboratory for developing his compositions, sound, and musical identity.
• Groove is central to Oz's music, which has led to long-running collaborations with drummers including Keith Carlock, Dave Weckl, Vinnie Colaiuta, Dennis Chambers, and Anton Fig.
• Oz believes musical ideas need time to develop. Concepts often have to "marinate" before they become a natural part of a musician's playing.
• His approach to triads and comping reflects a larger musical philosophy: clarity can often be more effective than density or unnecessary complexity.
• Hearing The Beatles helped ignite Oz's interest in electric guitar, while seeing the Pat Metheny Group's Still Life (Talking) tour in Israel became a life-changing musical experience.
• Oz's current interest in organ trio playing has opened up a different musical space, giving him another improvising voice in the band while changing the overall texture and feel of the music.
Music from the Episode
Get Down - Oz Noy
Solar - Oz Noy
All the Things You Are - Oz Noy
Zig Zag - Oz Noy
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a podcast about the people who make music and the experiences that shape them. Hosted by musician Brad Williams, the show features conversations with artists, songwriters, producers, engineers, and other creative voices about their careers, influences, collaborations, creative process, and the craft behind the music.
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On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with mandolinist, singer, and recording engineer Ethan Setiawan to talk about his new album, Little Storms, and the musical relationships that have shaped the band behind it. Ethan talks about meeting his bandmates during his years in Boston and why chemistry, listening, and simply getting along can be every bit as important as technical ability when putting a group together.
We also trace Ethan’s path on the mandolin, from learning bluegrass and old-time music as a young player to winning the National Mandolin Championship at seventeen. He reflects on the value of competitions as developmental milestones, the communal nature of bluegrass festivals, and the musicians who helped expand his idea of what the mandolin could do, including Mike Marshall and Jacob Jolliff.
Ethan takes me inside the making of Encyclopedia Mandolinica, his collection of mandolin duets and trios, and explains what recording with different players taught him about working efficiently in the studio. We also talk about his experience as an engineer and mixer, the importance of stepping away from a project to regain perspective, and the value of working with an engineer you trust.
With Little Storms, Ethan has also stepped more fully into the role of lead singer. We talk about recording the band live in a room together, the concentration required to sing and play mandolin simultaneously, and why he is particularly proud of the way his vocals and the ensemble came together on the record.
Along the way, we discuss Ethan’s years at Berklee, the changing realities of building a career as an independent musician, and the tension between music that develops slowly and a social media culture built around short-form content. For Ethan, the heart of it still comes back to playing live, listening closely, and making music with people he trusts.
Key Takeaways
• Ethan believes a successful band depends heavily on chemistry, listening, and the ability of musicians to adapt to one another—not simply individual technical ability.
• Bluegrass and old-time music were Ethan’s entry points into the mandolin, and after exploring jazz and other styles, he has increasingly returned to those roots.
• Winning the National Mandolin Championship at seventeen gave Ethan a valuable developmental benchmark, although he sees competition as very different from the collaborative spirit of making music.
• Mike Marshall has been a major influence on Ethan because of his ability to move naturally between bluegrass, jazz, Brazilian choro, and other musical traditions.
• Recording Encyclopedia Mandolinica taught Ethan how to enter a studio, focus quickly, and create strong performances within relatively short sessions.
• Ethan’s engineering experience has helped him make records more independently, while also teaching him the importance of leaving time between recording, editing, and mixing to regain perspective.
• On Little Storms, Ethan challenged himself to sing lead while playing mandolin live with the band, an experience that changed how he thinks about simplicity, concentration, and serving the music.
Music from the Episode
I Didn't Try Hard Enough - Ethan Setiawan
The Harbor Walk - Ethan Setiawan
Whiskey Boys - Ethan Setiawan
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a music interview podcast hosted by Brad Williams featuring conversations with musicians, songwriters, producers, and other creative artists. Each episode explores the experiences behind the music—from influences and collaboration to technique, creativity, recording, touring, and the lifelong process of becoming a better musician.
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