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Jeff Mask joins Ben Price for a grounded conversation on leadership, fatherhood, initiation, and what it means to be a man in the modern world. Jeff shares a defining childhood accident that shaped his commitment to “spread light and love,” breaks down why most adults accidentally create the teenagers they complain about, and explains how great leaders use specific acknowledgement to pull greatness out of people.
They also explore rites of passage for boys and men, discomfort as a reset ritual, and why emotional suppression doesn’t make you strong, it makes you brittle. If you’re a father, leader, or high-performing man who wants more presence, clarity, and integrity, this one hits.
TimestampsTop 10 Timestamps (Main Points)00:06 Jeff’s identity and mission: faith, family, “spread light and love”
01:20 The childhood accident that shaped his purpose
05:21 Fatherhood seasons: stop dreading the future, choose the best phase now
06:38 “Wait till you…” programming and how to rewire it
10:47 Teens: respect vs disdain, and how adults often create the behaviour they hate
13:35 How to connect with teens: name, care, and what makes them come alive
16:15 Why acknowledgements work (and how great leaders use them)
18:23 How Jeff became a coach (Infusionsoft/Keap origin story)
24:38 Initiation for boys and men: mountains, discomfort, confidence earned
36:02 What it means to be a man today: integrate masculine + feminine, don’t suppress emotion
Jeff Mask coaches CEOs globally and focuses on people and leadership patterns across any industry.
Find Jeff: jeffmask.com / maskprinciples.com
In this conversation, Ben Price and psychologist–coach Stuart Holcroft explore the deep psychological, emotional, and environmental factors that shape human behaviour. Stuart shares his journey from military service to coaching and psychology, highlighting the importance of understanding the brain, emotional healing, and the power of talking therapies.
They discuss Stuart’s turning point in Afghanistan, where he first realised the transformative impact of coaching. He explains how timeline therapy helps individuals detach from traumatic memories and how coaching approaches can differ across genders, with women often more open to emotional exploration. They discuss the evolving definition of masculinity and the lack of true initiation into adulthood in modern culture. The conversation also explores alcohol’s ability to lower inhibition and reveal hidden aspects of identity, and the ongoing complexity of self-discovery.
The dialogue shifts into nature, nutrition, and consciousness. Stuart and Ben explore how time in nature increases oxygen intake, reduces stress, and enhances mental clarity. They examine energy exchange with the natural world, the importance of mindful food choices, and how emotional states influence eating behaviours. Stuart emphasises conscious eating, the impact of judgment on the nutritional value we receive, and how meditation connects us to higher consciousness.
The core message is clear: healing, growth, and clarity come from understanding the mind, grounding in nature, and making conscious choices about how we live, eat, think, and connect.
Takeaways
• Stuart’s coaching breakthrough occurred during military service.
• Timeline therapy helps detach emotion from traumatic memories.
• Coaching men and women can require different approaches.
• Modern culture lacks true initiation into adulthood.
• Masculinity is grounded in standing for personal truth.
• Alcohol reveals aspects of identity by lowering inhibition.
• Emotional healing creates profound internal shifts.
• Collaboration is more effective than competition.
• Nature calms the brain and increases oxygen for performance.
• Humans exchange energy with living beings, including plants.
• Conscious eating creates better physical and emotional outcomes.
• Judgment of food shapes how the body receives it.
• Meditation connects the individual to higher consciousness.
• Emotional states strongly influence food choices.
• Mindfulness and nature connection are essential for mental health.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Stuart Holcroft
02:00 Defining Moments in Coaching and Psychology
04:41 The Power of Timeline Therapy
08:56 Gender Dynamics in Coaching
13:14 Exploring Modern Masculinity
19:03 Alcohol and the True Self
22:31 Nature and Mental Well-being
32:02 Conscious Eating and Nutrition
38:01 Consciousness and Life Choices
1. Attend Camp O.C.C.C.E.
A transformational men’s experience designed to pull you out of autopilot, reconnect you with who you really are, and place you among high-standard men committed to growth.
If you feel the pull, trust it.
www.ceocampout.com
2. Explore 1:1 Coaching with Ben Price
For men ready for radical honesty, identity work, and a higher level of leadership.
This is deep transformation, not surface-level coaching.
If it is a hell yes, reach out.
If it is a maybe, it is a no for now.
Keep moving.
In this conversation, Ben and Charlotte explore purpose, presence, and the deeper layers of authentic communication. Charlotte shares her belief in reincarnation and how meditation helped her discover her purpose and develop a sense of inner peace. They discuss the importance of presence in conversations, the role it plays in genuine connection, and why authenticity is the foundation of powerful communication.
They explore Transcendental Meditation and how it differs from other forms of meditation, focusing on effortlessness, stillness, and accessing deeper states of being. Charlotte highlights how identity shapes thought and behaviour, and how shifting who you are being can transform how you show up in the world. They discuss the power of declarations, visualisation, and conscious intention in creating opportunities.
The conversation moves into the realities of public speaking, communication skills, and the psychological work required to build confidence. They discuss practical tools such as practicing in similar environments, verbal journaling to release stress, and breaking preparation into manageable pieces. Charlotte’s philosophy of shifting “fear to fun” reframes public speaking as a chance for connection rather than performance.
They also touch on the role of AI in communication and the irreplaceable value of human connection. With loneliness rising, they emphasise the need for presence, authenticity, and real conversation. The core message: confidence grows when you address the deeper identity-level challenges beneath behaviour.
Takeaways
• Purpose can emerge through meditation and stillness.
• Presence creates real connection.
• Transcendental Meditation offers unique access to deeper states.
• Authenticity makes communication effortless and powerful.
• Identity shifts lead to personal growth.
• Declarations and visualisation help manifest opportunities.
• Practicing in safe environments builds resilience for public speaking.
• Verbal journaling helps release stress before networking or speaking.
• Preparation should be consistent and broken into small steps.
• Transforming fear into excitement changes how you communicate.
• AI cannot replace real human presence and connection.
• Loneliness highlights the need for authentic interaction.
• Confidence grows when deeper personal challenges are addressed.
Chapters
00:00 Exploring Purpose and Reincarnation
02:58 Presence and Connection
06:01 Understanding Transcendental Meditation
09:08 Being and Authenticity
11:50 Identity and States of Being
15:00 Declarations and Visualisation
17:59 Communication in a Modern World
21:03 Public Speaking Tools
24:00 Verbal Journaling and Stress
26:50 Preparation and Practice
30:00 Deeper Self-Development
33:01 Transforming Fear into Fun
39:06 AI and Human Connection
44:01 The Confidence Journey
1. Attend Camp O.C.C.C.E.
A transformational men’s experience designed to pull you out of autopilot, reconnect you with who you really are, and place you among high-standard men committed to growth.
If you feel the pull, trust it.
www.ceocampout.com
2. Explore 1:1 Coaching with Ben Price
For men ready for radical honesty, identity work, and a higher level of leadership.
This is deep transformation, not surface-level coaching.
If it is a hell yes, reach out.
If it is a maybe, it is a no for now.
Keep moving.
Ben Price and psychotherapist Christian Chalfont explore the challenges men face around identity, purpose, emotional expression, and mental health. Christian speaks openly about the silent pressure many men carry, the reluctance to seek help until crisis hits, and the weight of societal expectations that keep men isolated.
Christian shares his personal journey through self-doubt, rebuilding confidence, and understanding the importance of boundaries. He highlights how cultural and religious conditioning shape masculinity and often limit emotional range. The discussion also explores the deep link between the mind and body, showing how gut health, nervous system regulation, and bodily sensations influence emotional awareness.
Together, they examine why community and brotherhood are essential for men’s well-being, why many men feel disconnected from purpose, and how self-concept directly affects mental health. They also touch on the potential of psychedelics in therapy and the need to rewrite the narrative around seeking help.
This episode reinforces a simple truth: men do not heal alone. Real change comes from connection, honesty, and taking responsibility for the man you choose to become.
Key Takeaways
• Many men struggle with identity and purpose, especially in midlife.
• Men often delay seeking help until breaking point.
• Community and human connection are essential for mental health.
• Societal expectations lead men to mask emotional struggle.
• Boundaries are critical for self-respect and emotional clarity.
• Emotional expression is limited by traditional masculinity.
• Culture and religion shape men’s perceptions of masculinity.
• The gut-brain connection influences emotional regulation.
• Bodily awareness helps unlock emotional responses.
• Healing the gut can deepen emotional capacity.
• Self-concept and community strongly influence mental well-being.
• Many men feel a gap between external success and internal fulfilment.
• Changing the narrative around seeking help is essential.
• Personal transformation often begins with a single moment of truth.
• Authentic ambition means alignment with personal values.
• Psychedelics show therapeutic promise.
• Brotherhood accelerates healing and growth.
• Choice is the foundation of identity.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Christian Chalfont
06:07 The Reluctance to Seek Help
11:51 Christian’s Personal Journey
17:55 Emotional Expression in Men
23:59 Connecting Mind and Body
34:29 Healing the Gut and Emotional Connection
41:37 Changing the Mental Health Narrative
46:43 Ambitions for a Better Life
01:03:41 Finding Help and Resources
1. Attend Camp O.C.C.C.E.
A transformational men’s experience designed to pull you out of autopilot, reconnect you with who you really are, and place you among high-standard men committed to growth.
If you feel the pull, trust it.
www.ceocampout.com
2. Explore 1:1 Coaching with Ben Price
For men ready for radical honesty, identity work, and a higher level of leadership.
This is not surface-level coaching. This is deep transformation.
If it is a hell yes, reach out.
If it is a maybe, it is a no for now.
Keep moving.
In this conversation, Ben and Debbie explore the real journey of self-discovery beyond strategies, beyond achievements, and into the truth of who you are being. Debbie shares her transition from corporate life into coaching, motherhood, and identity reconstruction. Together, they break down the modern pressures on men and women, the rise of emotional intelligence in leadership, and the power of community as the antidote to isolation.
This episode invites you to slow down, reconnect, and lead your life from a deeper place.
Key Takeaways
Powerful Quotes
"The heart of this family is me."
"You are not broken, thank God."
"You have a choice, don't you?"
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:08 Head and Heart
06:08 Societal Expectations
09:04 Motherhood and Identity
12:07 Homecoming vs Recreation
15:17 Inner Foundations
18:06 Self-Love
21:00 Relationships and Community
23:57 Women as the Heart
26:55 Men's Safe Spaces
30:09 Feminine Power
33:09 Masculine and Feminine Dynamics
38:19 Balancing Energies
40:17 Vulnerability
42:08 Attachment Theory
44:07 Neediness and Avoidance
46:05 Expectations vs Agreements
48:08 Self-Awareness
50:07 Emotional Intelligence
52:12 What Men Need
54:04 Evolving Gender Roles
56:03 Family Balance
58:09 Personal Growth
01:00:08 Future of Leadership
01:09:33 The Ben Price Experience
01:10:03 The CEO Campout
01:11:01 Community and Connection
Next Steps
1. Attend Camp OCCC.E.
A transformational men's experience designed to pull you out of autopilot, reconnect you with who you really are, and place you among high-standard men committed to growth.
If you feel the pull, trust it.
www.ceocampout.com
2. Explore 1:1 Coaching with Ben Price
For men ready for radical honesty, identity work, and a new level of leadership.
This is not surface-level coaching. This is deep transformation.
If it is a hell yes, reach out.
If it is a maybe, it is a no for now.
Keep moving.
Shari Teigman is a transformational coach and creative business strategist.
Being a maverick means finding your own unique path and individuality.
Authenticity is crucial for personal fulfillment and connection with others.
Many people wear masks that prevent them from being their true selves.
Cultural norms around masculinity can hinder emotional expression in men.
Self-discovery has a ripple effect on those around us.
Vulnerability is a strength that fosters deeper relationships.
Personal development is a journey that requires ongoing effort and reflection.
Understanding the balance of masculinity and femininity is essential for modern men.
Family dynamics play a significant role in shaping our identities.
Summary
Shari Teigman, a transformational coach and creative business strategist, discusses the importance of authenticity, self-discovery, and the masks people wear in their lives. She emphasizes the need for individuals to find their unique paths, embrace vulnerability, and challenge cultural norms surrounding masculinity. The dialogue explores the ripple effect of personal development on relationships and the significance of asking better questions to foster deeper connections. Shari shares her personal journey and insights on navigating the complexities of modern identity, ultimately encouraging listeners to embrace their individuality and seek fulfillment in their lives.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Shari Teigman
03:04 Understanding the Maverick Mindset
06:04 The Concept of Masks and Authenticity
09:07 Cultural Perspectives on Masculinity and Mental Health
12:10 The Ripple Effect of Self-Discovery
15:02 The Role of Vulnerability in Healing
18:07 Personal Growth and Its Impact on Relationships
21:14 The Journey to Self-Awareness
24:09 Reflections on Military Experience and Identity
27:50 The Journey of Self-Mastery
28:10 From Darkness to Discovery
30:15 Rediscovering the Inner Child
31:56 The Masks We Wear
35:59 Understanding Masculinity
41:44 The Evolving Roles of Men and Women
47:51 Questions for Self-Discovery
Summary
This episode explores the shift from external achievement to internal mastery. Joe and Ben examine why many high-performing men feel successful yet unfulfilled, and how true leadership begins with leading yourself first. They break down the traps of outcome-attachment, stress as avoidance, and constant doing, and replace them with identity-driven behaviour, presence, emotional self-control, and clear personal standards. Health, sleep, and nutrition are positioned as foundational to performance. They discuss masculine identity, the power of male connection, and why oscillation between roles creates more stability than chasing balance. The core message: fulfilment is earned through who you become, not what you achieve.
Show NotesEpisode: The Journey of Self-Discovery: Balancing Being and Doing
Guest: Joe
Being first. Doing second. Identity before tactics. You build the man, then the outcomes follow.
Key Themes00:00 Identity and leadership
02:51 Being over doing
05:54 Detaching from outcomes
11:10 Fulfilment vs satisfaction
14:01 Stress and avoidance
16:59 Health as the base layer
22:39 Integrating fitness, work, relationships
28:11 Sleep and performance
31:15 Stress recovery
46:43 Modern masculinity
55:17 Brotherhood and vulnerability
01:02:48 Movement standards
01:09:37 Nutrition fundamentals
01:17:20 Oscillation vs balance
01:32:06 Conscious living challenges
You built the business. Now build the man.
For men ready to lead with discipline, presence, and power: apply for www.campoccce.com
Ben delves into the concept of imposter syndrome, emphasising that it is not an identity flaw but rather a result of unprocessed experiences and self-doubt. He introduces the idea of 'residue' from past failures and successes that can affect one's self-image. Price outlines three key strategies to combat imposter syndrome: stop self-judgment, practice forgiveness, and gain clarity on one's mission. He encourages listeners to recognize their achievements and align their identity with their current success, ultimately reframing imposter syndrome as a sign of growth rather than inadequacy.
Dan Meredith shares his journey of personal and professional growth, discussing the concept of the 'second mountain' in life, which represents a deeper pursuit of fulfilment beyond societal expectations. He explores the definition of happiness, the impact of loss, and the importance of building connections and brotherhood among men. Dan also reflects on modern masculinity, the challenges of dating in today's world, and ultimately finds peace and contentment in his current life.
Sam shares his journey in outdoor education, emphasising the transformative power of outdoor experiences on personal growth and mental health. He discusses the importance of integrating learning from challenges faced in nature, particularly for men who may struggle with vulnerability. The conversation explores the disconnect from nature in modern society, the impact of technology on youth engagement, and the need for community-building through outdoor adventures. Sam also highlights personal development rituals and the potential for outdoor experiences to serve as a therapeutic tool for mental health. He concludes with insights on the challenges of running an outdoor business and the importance of collaboration in creating meaningful experiences.
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In Afghanistan, I sat across from a suicide bomber.
He had been handed a story about who he was, and almost died for it without ever questioning it.
It took me fifteen years to…