The BETWEEN Podcast

The BETWEEN Podcast

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  • What Is Truth... and What's The Point? | Rev. Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson

    10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.

    "What if the truth isn't just black or white? What if it’s actually more like… yes and no?"
    If you’ve ever felt torn between believing and doubting at the same time, you've found the right episode.Reflecting on their faith journey, Dani and Matt both realized that so much of what we seek — truth, purpose, love — isn’t about finding the perfect answer. It’s about holding tension, embracing mystery, and learning to live in the complexity.

    Sometimes, life feels like we’re tracing the same old patterns — fear, scarcity, control. But what if real growth comes from daring to trace a new pattern — one rooted in love, abundance, and connection? That’s the invitation.

    Maybe the point isn’t to have all the answers — it’s to keep searching, keep exploring, and keep leaning into the tension of “yes and no.” When we do, we discover that truth is often in that beautiful space in between.

    Enjoy this final episode in our series on BIG FAITH QUESTIONS.

    51 min
  • Do We Need To Be Saved? | Rev. Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson

    Is salvation just about saving us from hell... or something deeper? Have you ever wondered what we're really being saved from? We often think of salvation as escaping eternal punishment, but what if it's about something much more personal — like liberation from loneliness, fear, and disconnection?


    In this chat, Rev. Dani Hillyer and Matt Mattson explore how the word Hosanna—literally meaning "please save us"—hits at our universal desire to be rescued from our struggles, whether it's injustice, powerlessness, or spiritual emptiness.


    What are YOU desperate to be saved from right now? And could salvation actually be found in leaning into love, connection, and community rather than just eternal rewards?

    Buy your copy of Cathedrals of Connection today: https://www.cathedralsofconnection.com/

    32 min
  • Is God On My Side? | Rev. Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson

    10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.

    Is God really on our side? Or are we just projecting our own beliefs onto the divine?

    Maybe the issue isn't about sides or winning. It’s about seeing beyond our us-versus-them mentality and recognizing the divine in every soul.

    When we believe God is only on our side, we risk forgetting that Divinity might be closer to the squishy, fragile parts of us — the raw, vulnerable core beneath all our masks.

    What if God’s stance isn’t about sides at all, but about love that sees us in all our messy, beautiful diversity?

    How are you trying to see others — truly see them — beyond your own side?

    37 min
  • How Do We Hold Each Other In This Fragile World? | Rev. Dani Hillyer and Matt Mattson

    10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.

    When the world feels like it's falling apart, all we want is to hold someone close — but how do we do that without losing ourselves?

    Let's be real — everything around us seems cracked, from news headlines to our own hearts. But here's the truth: we're not meant to fix it all at once. Sometimes, simply being present with another broken person creates a mosaic of real connection.

    Ever notice that when we lay our crumbly pieces on the ground and mix them with others', something closer to oneness appears? It’s messy, ugly even, but that honesty is what truly binds us. So, how do we stay resilient without losing our edges? Maybe the answer is just showing up — over and over — with open hands and broken hearts.

    What's your take on holding space in a fragile world?

    31 min
  • Puzzle The Pastors | Rev. Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson

    10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.In this episode, Matt and Dani tackle three real questions shared by folks at a local church that they both serve. Recently that church held a "Puzzle The Pastors" Sunday, and these three big faith questions never got answered during the live experience... so Dani and Matt thought they'd try to tackle them here. They're tough questions. What do you think?

    1. Why did people not recognize Jesus after he resurrected? Was he in a different form/body?
    2. There are many origin myths ie Native American, Greek mythology, etc. How do we know as Christians that our faiths are not just myths?
    3. How would Christ look upon a "National Church"?
    49 min
  • What Comes After The Hallelujah? | Rev. Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson

    (Alternative Title: Grow And Become Strong)

    10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.

    In this episode, we try to figure out what to do with our faith now that the holiday lights are dwindling, the tree is rotting by the curb, and our spirits are a little less merry and bright. How do we keep our spiritual lives alive even when the days feel cold and ordinary?

    This episode features Rev. Dani Hillyer and Matt Mattson.

    📖While you're here... have you ordered your copy of "," the new book by Matt Mattson, yet?

    31 min
  • Is Love The Stuff In The Hallmark Movies? | Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson

    (Alternative Title: Don't Punch Your Neighbor In the Throat)

    10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.

    In this episode, we capture the essence of love when Rev. Dani Hillyer says, "Don't punch your neighbor in the throat" (or something like that). Love might be the point of it all, friends. If your faith life is pointing in a true direction... it's probably love.

    This episode features Rev. Dani Hillyer and Matt Mattson.

    📖While you're here... have you ordered your copy of "⁠⁠Cathedrals of Connection⁠⁠," the new book by Matt Mattson, yet?

    54 min
  • What Does It Mean To Have a Spiritual Home? | Rev. Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson

    (Alternate Title: You're So Spiritually Rich, You Have Multiple Homes!)

    10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.

    In this episode, we welcome each other HOME. And we explore the elements of a spiritual home. Gosh, we even encourage you to think of yourself as so spiritually wealthy that you can afford MULTIPLE spiritual homes. Enjoy! Welcome home!

    This episode features Rev. Dani Hillyer and Matt Mattson.

    📖While you're here... have you ordered your copy of "," the new book by Matt Mattson, yet?

    22 min
  • Can Joy Survive In A World That's Deeply Hurting? | Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson

    (Alternative Title: Mysterious Paintings, Rivers, Togetherness, and Songs... Joy is Harder To Talk About Than We Thought)

    10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.

    In this episode, we explore JOY from peculiar angles. We try to dip into a joy that flows far deeper than mere happiness. And we wonder if joy is available if it isn't shared. Joy can seem like it's a required feeling at certain times of the year... but maybe there's a different way to understand it spiritually.

    This episode features Rev. Dani Hillyer and Matt Mattson.

    📖While you're here... have you ordered your copy of "⁠⁠Cathedrals of Connection⁠⁠," the new book by Matt Mattson, yet?

    44 min
  • How Do We Find Peace When the World Profits from Our Anxiety? | Dani Hillyer & Matt Mattson

    (Alternative Title: Just Say "Peace Be With You" To Everyone You Meet!)

    10 Profound Questions of Faith | This episode is part of a limited series of The BETWEEN Podcast where we're exploring ten, big, heavy, difficult, profound faith questions.

    In this episode, we win the war on peace! Well, not really. But we do explore whether peace is a default human setting, and how breathing together might lead us back toward the peace our souls know so well. If you're feeling anxious, harried, dizzy and fearful... just know that a) you're definitely not alone, b) there's probably some big corporation making lots of money off those feelings, and c) you can know peace again, friend.

    This episode features Rev. Dani Hillyer and Matt Mattson.

    📖While you're here... have you ordered your copy of "⁠Cathedrals of Connection⁠," the new book by Matt Mattson, yet?

    41 min

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A sacred conversation about sacred conversations. The BETWEEN Podcast lives at the intersection of YOUR FAITH and your daily moments of HUMAN CONNECTION.

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