In this week's episode of The Bitcoin Podcast, Ray Redacted swings by to correct and address some of the lingering drama centered around the Bit Block Book conference. We also spent some time discussing Dan Larimer and what it takes to to create something that people will actually use. Again, Corey and Dee debate the merits of HODL vs using. Dee seems to think that there should not be one chain to rule them all. Maybe there is room for a counsel in crypto that can serve to guide this budding industry to relevance.