Demetrick, Dr. Corey Petty, and Jesse are joined by founder and investor Joe for a conversation that cuts through sixteen years of crypto noise with one provocative thesis: crypto is only about trading.

Joe walks the guys through all five hype cycles, from Silk Road to Mt. Gox to the 2017 ICO mania to NFTs to today, and shows how the top of every cycle has been defined by a single dominant trading narrative. Everything else, he argues, is undercurrent. The conversation traces how he arrived at this conclusion after the chaos of ETHDenver 2023 sent him back to first principles, including the poker code buried in the original Bitcoin commit.

From there the guys get into where the next hype cycle is forming. Joe demos a tap trading app he is building that strips away every chart, button, and knob until trading feels closer to a mobile game than a Bloomberg terminal. Green for good, red for bad, prediction markets baked in. The crew riffs on PVP tournaments, head to head trading streams on Twitch and Kick, and why apps optimized for volatility win when traditional markets get quiet.

Plus: Anatoly's legendary bag working of Hyperliquid on Solana, why a normal person will never love a candlestick chart, and Corey announces he is winding down Archivist and open sourcing the IP.

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