The Bledsoe Show

00:00.00

Max Shank

Us folk who call up customer support not knowing what to do sometimes turning it off and on again solves the problem and that's pretty weird.

00:10.23

mikebledsoe

Yeah I worked in I t in my late teens early 20 s and 9 times out of 10 that was the solution. So.

00:22.98

Max Shank

I remember recently maybe like a year ago getting a new router installed and like a wireless thing a router and a modem I suppose and trying to understand how that shit works is. Really there's a lot of shit going on back and forth between a lot of different places with that little box. It's insane. Um, sadly, it's one of those things I really don't feel like I've made much progress on I feel like I made a little bit of progress learning about.

00:44.89

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

00:50.27

mikebledsoe

It.

01:02.30

Max Shank

Computer coding plumbing that sort of thing. But as soon as you start getting into the the cell signals and the wireless linkups and where everything's going. It gets a little hard to follow.

01:14.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think ah well the basis of troubleshooting to be a good troubleshoter. Is you just have to understand how the system works in the None place it is binary all the way through it's it. But anytime like when I help Ashley with something.

01:25.13

Max Shank

Binary all the way through. Yeah, that's what's so interesting.

01:33.72

mikebledsoe

Some type of troubleshooting thing. Ah, it's ah it's basically because she doesn't understand how the whole system works. You don't know if check this and then this and then this um but we had um, we had a loss of water in our house a couple months ago I call the I call the city all this stuff. Guy comes out tells me I just need to clean my you know the filters and my faucets. Whatever that didn't work and come to find out that my hot water heater has some type of sensor that gets triggered when I have heavy rain that turns off the hot water heater. So.

02:07.95

Max Shank

Aha.

02:10.64

mikebledsoe

And' have I had cold water I didn't have hot water but I didn't didn you figure it out but there was a part of the system in which I didn't even know existed that I ended up discovering because there was an alarm going off in my attic where the hot water heaters at and it was faint.

02:11.92

Max Shank

Ah, hi yeah.

02:27.52

Max Shank

Aha.

02:29.81

mikebledsoe

So yeah, troubleshooting is an interesting thing if you don't if you don't know the system knows detail. It's going to be difficult to figure out what's going on but sometimes when you need the troubleshoot. That's when we figure out how something actually works.

02:43.18

Max Shank

Well, it's like the Layman doesn't even know what to check? let alone how to fix it. He he doesn't even have a checklist. You know if you at least have a checklist then you can maybe start somewhere and I think that's how I approach fitness. It's a little bit mechanical. Still.

02:49.69

mikebledsoe

Um.

03:03.20

Max Shank

Um, I feel like I'm torn. A lot of the time between just telling people to like go hike and dance and if you occasionally carry something heavy while you're hiking and climb on stuff. It'll all work out and then there are other times where I think of ah, a checklist for ah daily. Um. Movements that you might want to focus on like roll bounce balance crawl climb carry rub squeeze shake these different like little things that you can just check off None at a time and I guess it's good. It works for different personality types. But it's funny how they're sometimes very analytical like none you have this topic you have these 3 movements per topic boom boom boom very regimented and then other times I'm like yeah if you bounce around and shake your arms out. You'll you'll move your lymph so you're not in this stagnant toxicity.

03:41.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

03:56.54

Max Shank

And then ah you know throw £20 in a backpack and go hike and climb on some stuff and you'll be relatively good enough. Just go enjoy that.

04:03.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think that um you know this brings out the topic for me is structure and flow and if you don't have enough structure in place then finding flow is gonna be like flow that actually works So There's people who you know. Ah I'll see people preaching online about intuitive eating and and I go that actually doesn't work until someone has done some pretty like I'm an intuitive eater but I've done a bunch of hardcore diets where I've restricted myself heavily and I.

04:36.72

Max Shank

Right.

04:41.57

mikebledsoe

Tuned into when my body needs something or doesn't need something but the only you know if you were living off ice cream bars and and snickerdooodles then he's triggered folks then.

04:49.68

Max Shank

I Feel attacked.

04:58.55

mikebledsoe

Like your your a ability to tap into what your body actually needs is is diminished and so I think the same thing happens with with fitness like you and I both have a really deep understanding of like we've gone through like really structured stuff for so long that we worked on stuff. We would not normally have worked on. But now that we have we can tell like when I go in the gym I go yeah I don't work this this skill or this part of my body feels weak like I need to I need to shore it up and and do some stuff but I'm preparing for a spartan race. And run the beast at the end of September by the way anyone I'm doing a spartan race doing the world championships in Tahoe September Twenty Fourth anyone who or yeah, love ta ha any excuse to go so I'm gonna run the race and.

05:36.85

Max Shank

Is this a real story. You're gonna be doing a Spartan race.

05:45.60

Max Shank

I was just there last week oh my god get out of here.

05:55.19

mikebledsoe

Ceo of Spartan Joe Decenna he gave me an unlimited amount of free registrations for my friends who all want to run it with me. He said I could have 200 people if I want and so ah, by the way if anyone wants to go run that race with me the.

06:02.30

Max Shank

Wow in Lake Tahill oh my god.

06:14.75

mikebledsoe

Will be the strong coach team will be just Dm me I'll send you the links to to get registered and yeah I want to have like 200 people running that race. All of us start together finish together.

06:24.29

Max Shank

Wow Same t-shirts on everybody like a excellent little ah tribe cult something or other I mean look it's a group. There are a lot of words for group Cult is a bit of a trigger word right.

06:33.17

mikebledsoe

You know what? I just ordered a bunch of t-shirts we can do. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, our cult is the best and ah so we're.

06:42.69

Max Shank

But that's what it is None rule in every cult. Our cult is the best thou shalt have no other cults or cult masters above me god the beakram yoga guy same same same rules.

06:50.53

mikebledsoe

Yes.

06:55.33

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, ah yeah, probably so I'm preparing for that race and I've run it a couple times with very little preparation I did okay but I noticed that every time I run the race. The thing that bothers me the most is my knees hurt the last.

07:04.11

Max Shank

Or.

07:13.16

Max Shank

Of.

07:14.60

mikebledsoe

Quarter of it lot of downhill on rocks but I can make my knees stronger. There's things I can do to improve that My grip strength is definitely a limiter near the end. There's so much climbing so much picking and carrying things and um, like.

07:27.46

Max Shank

Interesting I am.

07:34.39

mikebledsoe

Overall cardio doesn't seem to be that big of ah a limiter I mean it it is but compared to just ah yeah, because near the end of the race you're picking up a None tire too. So you've run a dozen miles up and down hills carrying sandbags and buckets of sands and shit.

07:50.20

Max Shank

The.

07:52.00

mikebledsoe

And then it's like okay now flip this tire. So yeah, the the things I notice I'm like oh what I need to train for is I need to improve my grip strength endurance I need to improve my knee health and strength and I need to be able to pick up just heavy shit. And need to pick up something heavy every once in a while in in I say about three hundred pounds three hundred

08:11.78

Max Shank

How heavy we talking I think it's I think it's a great topic that we just touched on here because it's nice to get practical because kind of like it. It all comes full circle. It's very similar to. Knowing how to make a great recipe so you go from a guy who just chops up the vegetables to the guy who's assembling everything together the line cook and then you got the head Chef who's doing you know flavor profiles and combinations and he's the artist and that kind of ties us back to that intuitive eating.

08:44.69

mikebledsoe

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

08:50.26

Max Shank

You were talking about if you have no intuition to intuit like what the fuck are you doing like I've I've been really mindfully eating these twinkies and I'm really intuitively you know I feel like I could walk about None steps and burn these up that seems like a reasonable. Exchange you will never you I'm still surprised how efficient we are at utilizing at saving calories. Anyway.

09:13.33

mikebledsoe

Yeah, what you can um ho that makes me think you can hone intuition and the only way to hone it is you got to be paying attention to the results. So so the twinkie 10 steps thing. It's a great idea. But say someone eats twinkies does ten steps day after day after day and they just get fatter and fatter. Then if you're paying you go? Oh well so the intuition is something that gets calibrated and it gets calibrated by results. So the people who lack intuition.

09:38.35

Max Shank

Totally.

09:50.96

mikebledsoe

I find just aren't paying attention to the results because if you're paying attention to the inputs and the outputs then you're going to be honing that intuition. But if you're not paying attention to those things then you'll never have it and you'll just suffer and struggle through life.

10:05.50

Max Shank

Is it I think of it like intuition is a certain openness and then the way to hone it like you said is to take that intuition and harmonize it with your wisdom which is.

10:23.31

mikebledsoe

You know.

10:23.90

Max Shank

All the stuff that you've learned with respect to who you authentically are which which is some combination of your genes and your experiences and the weird stories you believe. But I think it's about harmonizing that like openness gut. Instinct Raw like Curiosity spark of inspiration. Whatever and then passing it through okay is this is this congruent on some level with what I have experienced and then from there having the openness to try something new or having the resolve to. Go is something that you have good experience with so ah, intuitive training is where I was going with it so we went intuitive cooking to eating to training now.

11:00.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, agreed but going back going back to Spartan Race and intuition and I I know that yeah yeah so now it's I know that I need to work on a handful of things if I want to enjoy myself on the race more I'll experience less pain and suffering I know I'm Goingnna finish. But how much pain how much pain am I going to finish it. So yeah, so.

11:18.67

Max Shank

Oh.

11:29.90

Max Shank

We all want that for you.

11:37.15

mikebledsoe

Basically just start mapping it out and I have an idea for like what things I'm going to train on one day's but I'm not writing out the specific exercises and if I get to that day and I realize I still haven't recovered from this or that or whatever I'm making adjustments along the way. So I got ten weeks

11:37.78

Max Shank

Um.

11:47.50

Max Shank

Um, so so you'll so you'll have ten weeks until that I mean look I'll take any excuse almost any excuse to go back to Lake Tahoe ah although as a rule I typically only run when I'm chasing something or being chased could I be a chaser I feel like that's more my nature honestly.

12:05.13

mikebledsoe

We can. We could make that work I think we should just find a really fast hot girl to run in front of you and.

12:17.96

Max Shank

I'll catch her so fast. It will be game over I'll I'll run one fortieth of the race. Um, no, but so is your checklist then for.

12:26.31

mikebledsoe

Oh.

12:34.75

Max Shank

You're let's say you're like filling in the gaps right? And that's another thing I would love to talk about at some point is the difference in mentality between just fluffing up your ego and a few certain things versus really looking for like really looking for. Where you have the ability to improve right? Ah, it's It's a checkup.

12:54.71

mikebledsoe

Well, that's why I run the spartan race every year I go to tahoe every fall and I run it. It's and it's an annual checkup I only have to go once a year and I know yeah.

13:04.31

Max Shank

Um, Dr Spartan Doctor Spartan Dr Spartan says he fucking suck it hanging.

13:11.19

mikebledsoe

Yeah, So it's like well it's a good check because there's very few skills that you're not going to practice out there. Um, So there's some that are going to be left off for sure. But in ah in a single day you're going to know a lot about yourself. And so I really love it for that.

13:30.39

Max Shank

Well here's ah, here's a little phrase I like it's ah done today able tomorrow done today able tomorrow and it's kind of a shorter version of if you don't use it. You lose it.

13:39.60

mikebledsoe

M.

13:49.53

Max Shank

And ah, a positive version. So I'm guessing for your annual tahoe checkup that you do almost nothing related to the spartan race for about ten months and then you do two months of like. Very dedicated training for it is that would you say that's correct.

14:11.46

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're spot on. Maybe even let maybe more like eleven months typically this is is it's 10 weeks I'm I'm um, this is the most prepared I've gone in so far I even ran this past weekend.

14:17.24

Max Shank

Ah, you did just say eight weeks so I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. But. Are.

14:30.72

mikebledsoe

And um I don't do that ah very often at all.

14:33.79

Max Shank

I I feel like you have this knowing that you can do nothing activity wise and still finish that Spartan race. Yeah I see it.

14:46.24

mikebledsoe

That's the problem. Yeah.

14:50.67

Max Shank

I Wish you guys could see his face right now.

14:53.28

mikebledsoe

Ah, ah.

14:56.80

Max Shank

Ah I was just thinking strategically if I were going to recommend to someone how to prepare for such an experience. Ah it wouldn't be the way that you're talking about. It's far from optimal in terms of a progressive.

15:03.82

mikebledsoe

No, no, no, it's definitely far from optimal. Yeah I Just want to not hurt I Want to see because last time my knees.

15:15.50

Max Shank

Adaptation right? So but not that bad right? like like ten months off a year hey I think that's totally a fair trade quite honestly, it's.

15:23.31

mikebledsoe

Yeah, like it's only one day of pain one one day of pain. Yeah.

15:33.36

Max Shank

It would be a lot of hours throughout the year otherwise but let's say you train five days a week for the next ten weeks is that about right.

15:42.37

mikebledsoe

Ah, we'll call it 4 But yeah, None is aggressive for me I'm ah I need a lot of time to recover.

15:45.15

Max Shank

Um, okay, so none a lot I was just thinking though if instead of forty days out of sixty days if you did. Fifty two days out of none what the difference in bet because that would be once a week just thinking mathematically, that's probably what I would recommend somebody do. But then again the thing I really recommend is move around a little bit every day. Why wouldn't you. It's like.

16:04.20

mikebledsoe

A.

16:18.66

mikebledsoe

Do yeah well I already do that. So that's why the that's why I liked. That's what I do I I move nice and easy every day and then when it comes to something like this do some sports specific training ramp it up.

16:21.87

Max Shank

It's like you get to make it's like you get to make deposits and compound daily instead of weekly. E.

16:36.26

mikebledsoe

And then I go back to being lazy. It's great. Definitely not running too far.

16:38.76

Max Shank

And not running too far I can I can run after a tennis ball or like a soccer ball or frisbee or something like that. But when it's like hey just run over there. Part of me is like why.

16:51.93

mikebledsoe

Yeah I like to I like to eat a little bit of mushrooms at the starting line and hang. You know it's a time to hang out with my friends in nature. That's that's really the way to go don't tell Joe that I do that the start of his race.

17:01.50

Max Shank

Nice and it.

17:08.64

mikebledsoe

Take performance enhancing mushrooms.

17:09.54

Max Shank

Yeah I won't tell him on our public podcast.

17:14.44

mikebledsoe

This is the members only section. What do you want to talk about today up out showing the nipple.

17:17.25

Max Shank

Oh there's the members only section hang on that's the nipples Lefty writing. Okay, if you have a formula that works you stick with it.

17:31.47

mikebledsoe

That's right, still don't have the membership side up you but we'll get there. Um, it's probably good that have a number of these banked since they' probably 15 toy minutes piece ah topics for today 1 um.

17:33.80

Max Shank

Perfect. It's coming.

17:46.73

mikebledsoe

1 that is on top of my mind is ah I don't know that's what fit in maybe this will be just good for the members only to to hear but my brother is currently in Washington d c on trial for January six yeah Yeah

18:03.10

Max Shank

Bumbom bum.

18:05.51

mikebledsoe

He is according to some bumbling idiots a domestic terrorist that is a very scary phrase.

18:11.77

Max Shank

Oh good God That's a scary phrase I've hey ah you're you're breaking up I I can't be seen talking to you anymore I'm out of here.

18:20.31

mikebledsoe

Um, ah anyways, yeah, um, he he got caught up in the crowd that walked into the the ah was it called the capitol building and ah.

18:31.80

Max Shank

Point life.

18:39.49

mikebledsoe

Yeah I was.

18:40.18

Max Shank

I'm sure that happened exactly the way they say it happened right? Sure it happened. However, folks say it happened come on I Hope he's okay I hope it works out. Okay for him.

18:44.99

mikebledsoe

Whoever they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it. So that's he's in good spirits. He's um, yeah, he's my mom's up there with him and it's It's hard of my mom. That's the worst part.

19:02.20

Max Shank

Oh yeah.

19:02.80

mikebledsoe

Because I my brother. He's even my brother hat here's the thing is everything that I know that if justice prevails he walks away scott free but I don't yeah, we're not witnessing justice and you know that the United States department of justice.

19:08.60

Max Shank

Ah, but.

19:22.89

mikebledsoe

Doesn't It's like the opposite of that. So.

19:23.60

Max Shank

That was a big weight off my shoulders when I stopped expecting Justice to happen and then getting frustrated when it didn't now it's more like if it does I'm pleasantly surprised but I kind of have this understanding that it's a doggy dog world and some people use.

19:28.18

mikebledsoe

Um, to bonus.

19:41.99

Max Shank

Dicks and some people use language and really people are just trying to help some help each other out fuck each other over dog eat dog. Whatever it's fine like but don't don't live your life expecting like oh that's not fair. Someone should make this fair. It's like yo don't don't expect that.

19:59.20

mikebledsoe

That's you're gonna be miserable if you think if you want things to be fair.

20:01.74

Max Shank

I lived that I lived that life a man in search of Justice got fucking idiot.

20:06.71

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so that's going on this week so I'm going to be I'm lucky that I'll be spending the majority of my time this week hunting. So I won't be cut up and I'll be off off grid for a few days.

20:19.51

Max Shank

A.

20:24.50

mikebledsoe

I mean I wish I could do something support him I Really don't have any like he's kind of like where he's at. There's not really much I can do at this point. So.

20:33.49

Max Shank

There's a lot of situations like that where people say what's going on. You really have nothing to add. You're like I guess talk to an attorney and no one else and don't say anything and that's it like what else can you do.

20:43.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, um, yeah, have no idea. So yeah, that's an interesting thing So I'll be I'll be witnessing that and probably getting messages through the family text message thread. Yeah.

20:47.64

Max Shank

Yeah.

20:56.21

Max Shank

While while you're hunting What are you hunting for.

21:01.54

mikebledsoe

Wild boar. So um.

21:02.71

Max Shank

And your true self.

21:07.64

mikebledsoe

My truest self I ought for sure. So yeah I don't know that really I mean that's not really a topic I think I part I already said everything that there is but it's all my mind. So no.

21:10.13

Max Shank

Ah.

21:18.38

Max Shank

Um, definitely something on your mind though Yo that's a man, especially for your mom too. That's tough.

21:28.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, real tough. Well he he also has 2 daughters. So yeah, yeah, it's ah.

21:32.20

Max Shank

Oh my God they opened the door for him did he knock down a door. No come on you walk through a door. What's the big deal.

21:40.83

mikebledsoe

No, no, they walked through a door that police officers were holding open. There's it's ah it's pretty ridiculous. That's and it's ridiculous.

21:52.12

Max Shank

Yeah, that's what I mean it's like let some lawyer do that I realize it's like ah mathematics is so that you can explain more with less and law is so you can explain less with more. It's like the exact opposite.

22:08.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

22:12.40

Max Shank

Of the language of the universe. It's such a fucking cluster fuck. It's disgusting that that's where my shadow self comes out. It's like oh let's just skin those fuckers alive for abusing the language to rape the people.

22:17.11

mikebledsoe

It's it's disgusting.

22:24.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well if you if you're initiating violence then I think that it's in who are you know whoever is experiencing the violence from somebody else has a right to defend themselves and I think what we have is a bunch of people who've twisted up some words that.

22:37.36

Max Shank

Hundred percent

22:43.76

mikebledsoe

And then convinced these people who are supposed to be peace officers to go conduct violence and it's ah it's really frustrating. It's really frustrating situation. Yeah, it is outrageous. Yeah.

22:50.10

Max Shank

Um, it's outrageous. Yeah I mean it all depends what you compare it to like before the King could just say off with his head and you're like huh This is I get this is better than that for sure like it's way better for a lot of reasons. But.

23:04.58

mikebledsoe

It is better than that. Yeah, the the principles the same. The principle is the same. Yeah.

23:09.48

Max Shank

You know, still you got to hold the line on some level right? and I think that's what you and I that's kind of what you and I talk about right is it's not that like we want to help people free themselves like I often say I don't want to be your mama like I don't want to control anybody I don't want to be responsible for them either. Like I don't think that's a ah good trade. That's what makes these folks who think they know best for everybody their existence So sad is they believe that at some point they will finally feel safe or good enough or whatever when they tell enough other people what to do with their meddling ways. But. You know it's just never enough and they're always feeling totally um at odds or at War within the present Moment. It's pretty fucked up actually.

23:56.63

mikebledsoe

It makes and makes it for those of us folks that just mind our own business. Just yeah, it can be irritating. But if you get really good at mining your own business. They usually leave you alone.

24:10.64

Max Shank

Yeah I would agree with that I think ah like most people that just leave alone I mean minus like the the fractional. Slavery that we all participated but there are positive aspects undeniably. So It's done horribly bad but there are positive aspects so you like got to keep that optimism though. Maybe no no opt fuck man.

24:24.00

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

24:34.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah, maybe we'll see yeah walk. Yeah.

24:41.37

Max Shank

If you have no optimism you just don't do anything. That's that's the line is if you don't feel like there's a hope or belief for something positive in the future. Even if it's like I'm going to paint a picture later make ah sausage macaroni and cheese. You know you you got to have some. Ah.

24:58.57

mikebledsoe

Yeah, what I I think I think the reality of it is is like we we look at the entire system and it's and it's really gross, but the what I look at like the the way we got here is because people didn't stand on principle.

25:00.71

Max Shank

Belief or hope for the future.

25:17.49

mikebledsoe

Ah, long time ago and so this thing is blood so far in and if you try to take it back on principle all the way back to where it should be to where the consent you know I give consent or not if you take it all the way back to the principle which is what happens is people snap out of it and go oh my God I never gave consent.

25:24.37

Max Shank

Um, right.

25:35.44

Max Shank

Right.

25:37.19

mikebledsoe

And ah, you know they realize they're being rape and they then they go Oh I'm going to draw the line back where it should be and that's jarring like Society Society has a really hard time going adjusting to where things should be.

25:47.86

Max Shank

Right. Oh Man So true.

25:54.97

mikebledsoe

And yeah, so we got to like when I look at I go. How do we like stare step this thing back gradually the same way it got in which is going to be way harder to do than how we got here. It's kind of like losing weight so much easier to get fat.

26:10.27

Max Shank

Yo you know what? it's like it's exactly like someone finally drawing boundaries with another person and the person who has been infringing on the boundaries unknowingly.

26:20.20

mikebledsoe

Right.

26:27.67

Max Shank

Because that None person has not been drawing those boundaries. They're totally shocked. They're like whoa this is a completely different person because it's such a big separation from that false ah boundary that you had that false front. Um.

26:40.91

mikebledsoe

Yeah I what do you want? Do the show today. You want to do boundaries I know if we did boundaries or not yet.

26:48.35

Max Shank

Ah, probably I mean I think the the power of no is like None of my favorite none principles concepts and um, ah. Feel like I almost drone on about that all the time but that's almost the only important thing is like can you say no and then can you can you hear No the no callous. Um I don't know if that's a full topic but we could talk about tahoe.

27:15.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, all right I like that the power of no, we don't have to go. You know we have to go like an hour hou hour hou hour fifteen every time we can just say the power of no and we got the.

27:31.38

Max Shank

Have we done the power of no before.

27:31.97

mikebledsoe

This section which is almost a half hour already I don't think so I don't remember writing that one down. Yeah.

27:37.43

Max Shank

Ah, okay, well let's let's try a power of no slash like tahoe. Yeah, sure.

27:44.79

mikebledsoe

Yeah, all right? you want can get off.

27:52.65

Max Shank

Oh you mean like right now. Okay hey everybody welcome back to Monday mornings with max and Mike Today we're gonna talk to you about the power of no and the power of 1 of the most beautiful places ever. Lake.

27:53.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, like right now.

28:12.56

Max Shank

Tahoe on the border of Nevada and California thanks for tuning in everybody mikey. Thanks for joining me again.

28:19.00

mikebledsoe

of course. of course so um we're going to get that power of no, but yeah, just a quick quick note I will be arriving in tahoe the week of September Twenty four to run a spartan race.

28:26.98

Max Shank

Are.

28:36.90

mikebledsoe

And anybody who wants to join me. They get a free registration Joe Decena the Ceo of Spartan Race basically gifted us as many registrants as we want. So if you want to run the race with me shoot me up in the Dms and ah I'll be prepping for that I don't know if I'll be posting my training. Ah, hate posting training online but people fucking. Love it.

28:57.25

Max Shank

I want to see tupper wares fully your food all lined up in a row for this I want to see you get serious like 1 of those like actual you know, athlete folks. Ah.

29:11.60

mikebledsoe

I I kind of enjoy I enjoy that I don't have to do that and I'll still beat some of those people like I remember I remember.

29:20.57

Max Shank

Um, oh yeah, we know? ah.

29:26.24

mikebledsoe

Remember 4 was it four years ago I was running the race and I had ah None my buddies with me and 1 of the guys he bought and sold cannabis for a living so he may or may not have been classified as a drug dealer now we halfway through the race. My edible. Was wearing off and I was like oh no I'm feeling sober and he looks over and pulls out a little plastic wrapped joint and whips it out on the trail we blaze it halfway through gets me through the end of the race and um.

29:55.36

Max Shank

Wow. Um, how long is this race. Oh a spartan race is eighteen miles holy god

30:03.46

mikebledsoe

Eighteen miles well they have different links but this 1 is eighteen miles with four thousand feet of elevation climb. So.

30:15.96

Max Shank

Sounds horrible.

30:18.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's pretty largerous and you're gonna do a swim at the top. It's it's like ° at this pond at the top of the hill they say 21 k but it could be as long as some years. It's longer than others but the year they.

30:22.68

Max Shank

Jesus None obstacles for this spartan race. Um, good god.

30:35.26

mikebledsoe

The year that they told me it was gonna be thirteen miles and end up being 18 Ah so at least well it's 30 obstacles. So it's we'll say it's thirteen miles so hop marathon plus thirty obstacles.

30:42.96

Max Shank

Dude, that's that's like a None marathon at least is what we're talking. We're talking about a None marathon.

30:52.92

Max Shank

Oh.

30:54.39

mikebledsoe

Where you're carrying heavy things up and down the mountain. Ah, you know, maybe a hundred to two hundred yards at a time. So it's.

30:58.73

Max Shank

Wow I'm interested to look into the obstacles a little bit more it sounds exciting but it doesn't sound like what I would want to actually do it. It does seem more fun.

31:12.67

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean that's why I.

31:17.99

Max Shank

Then a race I saw that went through Death Valley 120 or something miles finished started in Death Valley hottest place in the world and then finished at the base of Mount Whitney in California and I just happened to we just drove through it. On the way back from tahoe and we saw these ah skeletons covered in ah bright white underarmor clothing from head to toe stumbling. It was just I was just thinking I can't think of a worse. Ah, athletic event than. Ah, hundred plus mile run through Death Valley that's obscene to me amazing that we can do it amazing that people can push to that limit.

31:57.25

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. It is obscene. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, well anyways, yeah, a few years ago I ran the race. We peeled off smoke the joint and there were half the people running by were jealous and the other half were disgusted.

32:21.87

Max Shank

Yeah I think it'll be a different percentage now. Probably I think less discussed more more jealousy. It's one of those things.

32:23.28

mikebledsoe

That we would do such a thing during a race.. What do you think?? What do you think it's going to be probably probably people people are having to learn how to enjoy themselves and the people that are gonna come out in race right now. Probably. Ah, a little bit looser.

32:46.89

Max Shank

I'm surprised that ah Spartan had that many prudes Anyway I think it's more of a judgment call because I bet there are a bunch of booze bags judging that right.

32:53.20

mikebledsoe

I Don't you know I don't know I don't think so I think a lot of them are pretty clean.

32:58.29

Max Shank

I Mean not personally like you know I'm not into kink shaming like whatever you want to do coffee ah cocoa puffs like that's a cereal right? Coco puffs like chocolate Chocolate Mu Balls essentially.

33:15.61

mikebledsoe

It's a it's a dessert disguised as a breakfast.

33:17.67

Max Shank

But food is drugs. Coffee is drugs alcohol is drugs weed is drugs you might as well take something that's going to make your endurance better I mean that's that's definitely something right? That's what you're talking about that's what weed's for endurance. Wow.

33:30.70

mikebledsoe

That's what the weeds for yeah oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, um, t hc binds the same receptor as ah, the name of it is eskating me but it's up. It's it's what causes the runners high and so Tc binds are the same one so you basically fall into that groove a lot sooner and the more time you spend in that groove the better your endurance is going to be because your nervous system is in a rhythm and it's.

33:48.80

Max Shank

1

34:03.29

Max Shank

Um.

34:04.90

mikebledsoe

It's calm and you're breathing really well and so ah, yeah, cannabis is ah you know amongst the people who know about it. There's a lot of endurance athletes who use it and it's it's great for that. Not great for picking up something heavy None time or moving incredibly fast. But for for repetitive motion over a long period of time. It's ah it's a wonderful substance.

34:31.63

Max Shank

Um, definitely an endurance performance enhancer.

34:36.51

mikebledsoe

Yeah, one of my favorite things to do when I was living in California was eating edible wait an hour and then just go run on the beach until I got tired I like go run on the beach I'd get tired I'd go swimming I'd run a little more go swimming crawl around.

34:53.80

Max Shank

Um, sounds pretty complex and scientific ah program design there. Ah.

34:53.88

mikebledsoe

Ah, was fucking weird about there.

35:03.81

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, um, you do we want to get in the power of no.

35:09.15

Max Shank

Yeah, because you need to set some boundaries so that you can make your spartan race training a little bit more serious none of this like I'm going to sit on my ass for ten months and then just train for two months we need. We need to set boundaries. For spartan training year-round. It's time for you to take this seriously.

35:30.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, Well I Think what you're getting at is you know when I when I think about boundaries and the power of no like boundaries is your ability to say no and there's internal boundaries and then external Boundaries. So Most people I find that I get ah angry when I. When I cross my internal boundaries I might project that out on somebody else, but the yeah the internal boundaries I got to tell myself no to staying up late when I know I'm gonna train the next day I gotta be able to tell myself no to eating that donut or whatever it is and.

36:00.44

Max Shank

On here.

36:07.55

mikebledsoe

That can be really really difficult. But I think that at the core of that is really good I'm surrounded by good stuff. It's um, it's unfair.

36:08.92

Max Shank

Especially if the stuff is really good like like saying no to broccoli is way easier than saying no to crack probably probably I think ah.

36:18.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah I. Oh Man I Once had a friend who had tried crackout and he was like dude you should definitely try it because it's so good and don't know like make sure you don't know where to get more because you'll go get more. Oh go. Okay.

36:43.00

Max Shank

Um, I mean he clearly doesn't think you're a very good detective but like you have this mind altertering experience. That's like nothing you've ever had and you're.

36:43.61

mikebledsoe

That sounds like I'm not going to try it. Yeah.

37:00.30

Max Shank

Willingness to do some detective work to find someone is like 0 I mean you could find crack.

37:02.96

mikebledsoe

That's what you got like have someone drop you off on a desert island for like a week and then you know hit it on the first day. So I think that's the way that's how you have to go.

37:11.92

Max Shank

Um, how to do crack by Mike Blood so how to ah.

37:17.74

mikebledsoe

Um, but yeah, going back to the boundaries. The no is like telling yourself no is basically parenting yourself most people don't have good internal boundaries and they do a bunch of shit that they know that if they let children do that same thing. They would be doing that child a disservice.

37:41.20

Max Shank

I've heard that when you can parent yourself is when you are considered an adult. That's one definition that I like of it I'm I'm not there yet myself. Um.

37:46.79

mikebledsoe

Yep. Um, that's a definition I like to run around with.

37:56.50

Max Shank

With everything ah or or or am I I mean something I think about is like you're really just making bets cost benefit analysis. So as long as you're getting what you want out of it. That's.

37:56.51

mikebledsoe

No, not with everything I think it's a lifelong thing adulting.

38:15.15

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and over time though.

38:15.58

Max Shank

It's all good like do I drink too much coffee. That's that's a question I've been thinking about lately because I drink a lot of coffee maybe like four four ah diluted cups a day.

38:22.32

mikebledsoe

Why have you been thinking about it.

38:30.70

mikebledsoe

So what? What? What? What? Why could that? be bad for you.

38:33.12

Max Shank

Pour in oh I have no idea I mean I've I've read into like some of the reasons why but I just wonder if it's if it's worth being such a regular part of the routine and and there's not really ah, a clear and definitive answer on it.

38:49.00

mikebledsoe

I think that coffee was popularized as a healthy thing by bulletproof Dave Asprey did a really good job of making it. Okay, um oh yeah.

39:00.88

Max Shank

Um, you think so I thought I thought it was like reasonably healthy before.

39:06.71

mikebledsoe

Um I don't think it was held on the same pedestal I mean it's considered like a health product. At this point if you buy the right coffee you're drink you're drinking the smart intelligent healthy coffee. But if you drink the other coffee. You're just a.

39:14.91

Max Shank

In.

39:20.99

Max Shank

Um, well, it's like how about smart water. How about that brand Are you kidding me as Genius The bottles are very liked by hikers because they're pretty sturdy and very lightweight but we were thinking about the branding of smart water.

39:25.66

mikebledsoe

Yeah, muggle.

39:31.57

mikebledsoe

Blew it away.

39:40.92

Max Shank

That that takes a lot of balls right? Smart I mean you would think someone must have thought of that before but look at that smartwater the smart coach.

39:48.50

mikebledsoe

Maybe maybe I should have called my business. The smart coach instead of the strong coach.

39:58.97

Max Shank

I Mean technically that's more what you would want.

39:59.00

mikebledsoe

Ah, the smart Coach fuck.

40:03.36

Max Shank

You just have you just have pictures of these like really buff idiots. Ah I ah man. Okay, so look boundaries being able to say no.

40:12.35

mikebledsoe

Ah, er.

40:23.30

Max Shank

To yourself is that's basically wisdom right? because you're not going purely off instinct and we talked a little bit about intuition and instinct in the pre-show today right? Well, there's a pre-show and you'll see my nipples.

40:34.10

mikebledsoe

Ah, we didn't mention the pre-show.

40:42.69

Max Shank

I at least show them on camera. So if you're listening, you'll know when they're there and we talk about some pretty cool stuff I liked the pre-show today.

40:50.17

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the pre-show was loaded with good content today and and personal sharing information. so yeah yeah yeah so um at some point.

40:59.95

Max Shank

That's true. There was some good personal sharing. It's like a little therapy session for all of us there.

41:07.75

mikebledsoe

The bloodsideher dot Com I'll have a link set up so that you can get access to the ah the membership site which will be donation based. That's all all back to boundaries.

41:13.65

Max Shank

Um, Boom back to boundaries boundaries with yourself say no to drugs such a funny phrase right? I mean that's why I always love coffee as the example, right? they're they're talking about like crack and that stuff. Um. Being able to say no to other people is not a skill that everyone has. They're really concerned that people won't like them anymore if they draw the boundary they actually want and what's funny is sometimes that's true because you're growing up. People are pretty immature. And then you're an adult and people are still pretty immature and if you do something that someone doesn't like they'll treat you different. So It's normal that you would try to be either accommodating or more dominating in order to get.. It's like whatever ah strategy you learned. And so if you're one of the accommodating Types. You're going to feel really nervous to say no to people and I can I can take a lot to get back into the rotation and like I said earlier the people who you draw those boundaries with suddenly are going to feel ah like whiplash.

42:14.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

42:29.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the um yeah, you're you're when you set a new boundary or you know, maybe it's a boundary that you've had internally that you've never communicated and then you say you know what I'm going to communicate this boundary right now and people.

42:29.30

Max Shank

There's gonna be a shock.

42:48.33

mikebledsoe

Are expecting you to behave a certain way and when you verbalize a boundary for the None time you break that expectation and when people expect something to happen and it doesn't happen. They get they get attached to whatever story that. They have you in and when you when you fuck that story up by setting a new boundary. They yeah is really interesting how they might respond I think that's one of those things where ah that I've learned through a lot of the personal development work I've done is. I I might come out of a workshop and go. Oh Yeah I I have not been I discovered this boundary I've had I haven't been communicating it and then now my homework is to go communicate it and the process of and it takes a lot of courage to do that because the process of of. The unknown like by doing that you're stepping into the unknown you have no idea how the other person is going to respond and it's going to cause that person some level of stress consciously or or subconsciously and that's to me the practice of surrender is really. Saying what's true for you and then just again, we go back to paying attention paying attention to what how people respond to that and then adjust from there but there's no way to predict how someone's gonna ah respond to a new boundary I say most of the time when I'm. When I have a worst case scenario in my head about how someone's gonna respond to me. It almost never comes True. It's like that. The anticipation of how this person might respond to this is way worse.

44:31.54

Max Shank

Right. Well I've been holding back a lot. Actually I don't want to hurt your feelings you seem sensitive to me. Ah, all joking aside, um I agree with you completely.

44:43.47

mikebledsoe

Ah I am very sensitive. Yeah.

44:55.10

Max Shank

I think that when you are used to being accommodating and I'm not saying it's bad to be accommodating, but basically you fall into what I call a predictable strategy. It's just a predictable strategy or predictable plan. I learned that if I do this thing then I get this response and like you were saying we prefer that known pain or discomfort of not being true to ourselves to the unknown of holy fuck will will this person say that they hate me will they tell me to go fuck myself if i. Draw the boundary that I actually want to draw and there's even that that Mark Twain quote because I know you're big fan of Twain. He said that his tailor was the only reasonable man he ever met because he took my measurement new each time while everybody else. Measured me against who I was and I always thought that was a really nice None expectations not being met is kind of the root of all disappointment necessarily right? So people get mad when their expectations are not met. They get sad and their expectations are not. Matt but really, it's just an attachment to this future outcome and if you can get curious about the future to me. That's the best forward thinking mentality because it has a little bit of. Joy a little bit of excitement and it also kind of I think harmonizes the relationship with the unknown a little bit. It makes it a little more of a positive thing like when you say oh the storms can be unpredictable. You're like whoa. It's like a scary unknown almost. But. You're like I'm curious to see um, what the what the weather is like tomorrow. It feels very different. Yeah, so basically you're.

46:53.82

mikebledsoe

Very different energy.

47:01.72

Max Shank

By not drawing your boundary. You're admitting that you're attached to the response of the other person and and you think that is actually more valuable in your cost benefit analysis than saying what you really feel which would be drawing a boundary.

47:06.14

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

47:17.71

mikebledsoe

Saying No yeah I think I think um, ah yeah, big big part of the the pinch we're in in the world right? now is a lack of people I think sought out.

47:21.19

Max Shank

Yeah, it's pretty big. It's big month.

47:37.55

mikebledsoe

To be to to harmonize and to not rock the boat and so there's kind of like a death by a thousand cuts is like oh you know what? because values and boundaries go hand in hand this um that this value has been. You know I'm doing something or going along with something. It's not really in alignment with my values but it seems like the rest of the group want Yeah yeah, yeah.

48:02.98

Max Shank

The greater good the greater good the greater good. It's same old story man the great the greater good. You can convince people of just about anything if it's for some sort of greater. Good.

48:18.58

mikebledsoe

Um, how vague is the greater good like when people say the greater good.

48:24.13

Max Shank

What's more vague. Nothing is more vague. The great or bad I mean like it's It's a ridiculous phrase. It's this. It's this totally. Um, unscientific assumption that if you concentrate the decision making.

48:30.22

mikebledsoe

It's a ridiculous phrase.

48:41.76

Max Shank

To this guy. It'll be overall better off and we still don't know demonetized here. We come de you monetized. We still don't know if our ah emergency break reaction to whatever the fuck has been going on the last couple of years actually is better than doing literally nothing other than saying hey if you ah if you want to stay home. You can we? We don't know which would have been better and I'm not saying that would have been better but historically speaking. Ah. Bureaucrats usually make things about None to None times worse with what they do than if they had just done nothing and let people figure it out through consensual exchange.

49:34.70

mikebledsoe

No yeah, the the but I think the greater good thing is also interesting is I don't think most people see it as ah, giving control to a centralized group of people or individual. It's.. It's like um, it's when they say like they you know they say they're not even talking about an individual.. There's this.. There's this ominous so that's how I know that someone believes in God is when they they say things like the greater good like there's some. Magical being and my definition of God is different. But when I I run I Run I run into atheists all the time that believe in a in a being a magical being that knows what's the best for everybody and so.

50:12.34

Max Shank

So so it's like a unifying idea for you. Ah.

50:27.56

Max Shank

Um, does this magical being have a name.

50:28.79

mikebledsoe

But they're not. They're not even um, well it's it's probably whoever their favorite anchor is on the news or the you know or the newspaper that's in the the blue package the blue.

50:38.59

Max Shank

Here.

50:47.93

mikebledsoe

Rapper the New York Times you know as long as the New York Times said it you know now. Yeah, so it's like late they actually they they actually don't have. There's no end of they're not. They're not in recognition that they're even giving power to an individual because there's this.

50:52.94

Max Shank

I see Yeah so I God is like.

51:06.74

mikebledsoe

There's this mass media machine that is is spitting out this narrative and so anything. That's not that isn't for the greater good like that's that's in service of the greater. Good. So The fact that I think it's it's ah it's an interesting little trap that people find themselves in is because they're. Saying it's for the greater. Good. They believe it's for the greater good but they don't actually they're not I don't think most of those people are in recognition that they're giving power to a centralized control of people who who may not actually be that informed or that Um, what's the word I'm looking for.

51:27.67

Max Shank

Right.

51:45.43

mikebledsoe

Altruistic You know they they they believe that the people are doing the best they can. They're like them. That's that's the most that that's the they're like me. It's a lack of it's ah it's an inability for things like empathy. So the people who feel as though they're the most empathetic.

51:45.60

Max Shank

Um, right like them this they're like me.

52:03.49

mikebledsoe

Are usually the least empathetic because their their empathy is the projection of themselves instead of recognizing that people are different.

52:08.20

Max Shank

Well, it's elevation through depression like you have these victims and that elevates you you put yourself as the hero you have to put them as the victim. That's why I don't want to be anybody's savior. It's It's not a cool role.

52:22.92

mikebledsoe

No.

52:25.11

Max Shank

You know you don't want to be victims I don't want to be a hero just be a guy I think the way you're thinking of God a phrase struck me. It's intrinsic belief or intrinsic believability and that's kind of what God is. Like who who's your God is who you trust without really understanding. There's no reason to a lot of people worship money kind of like God or Worship. Um the state as a God Yeah yeah.

52:54.10

mikebledsoe

It's probably the biggest God I know of yeah, well when I say the biggest I mean the majority of the population is it. Worships money anything.

53:02.46

Max Shank

Way more people believe in money than believe in a Christian Catholic or whatever like any one of those.

53:09.00

mikebledsoe

Yeah, anyone well any any Christian like 99% of christians believe more in money than they do they do in the Christian god.

53:17.72

Max Shank

Oh snap smackdown.

53:22.32

mikebledsoe

Do you spend more time thinking about money or do you spend more time thinking about God where whatever you wherever you spend wherever you spent your attention is what you worship and that is your god.

53:27.19

Max Shank

Oh My God roasted I think you're probably right. Let he who is without Sin cast The None stone.

53:41.81

mikebledsoe

He.

53:43.20

Max Shank

Let he who is without sin cast the None stone. Oh you're you're calling out these non-believing christians for their lack of true faith right? they're they're pretending

53:47.12

mikebledsoe

Was was that in reference to.

54:02.15

Max Shank

They're pretending to love their religion but really they love money way more and they're not open and honest about that.

54:04.93

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a it's a something that makes people feel better about themselves.

54:11.44

Max Shank

Oh yeah, I mean and I think ah in many cases I've seen religion be super constructive for some people. So yeah.

54:18.39

mikebledsoe

I Think it's I think it's constructed for most people I think most people lack order in their lives. They they do want someone else to tell them what to do how to live their life. Most people have zero moral compass. Ah.

54:31.50

Max Shank

Ah, but they don't do it at the barrel of a gun right? I Think that's what I like better about religion is it still giving you structure for the flow kind of what we were talking about before ah you need to have that structure for the flow.

54:37.10

mikebledsoe

They're not.

54:48.14

mikebledsoe

And what you're saying is it's voluntary.

54:50.62

Max Shank

Um, yeah, it's consensual. It's consensual is awesome baby. Nothing's hotter than consent I think it's pretty cool.

54:58.63

mikebledsoe

The the yeah yeah, what I what I think is funny. Is you got a bunch of ah I was in a conversation last night about ah blue states versus red states and getting in the conversation now.

55:12.25

Max Shank

In like a fight. It would be no contest be over so quick. Can you imagine if we just reverted to like an all out battle every 4 years. Amazing.

55:17.51

mikebledsoe

Um.

55:23.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, ah the yeah.

55:30.83

Max Shank

Who we'd be more civil. The rest of the year too if we could just get it out. Not quite purge. Love not not purge like you know you get in the ring. You take a few punches with boxing gloves on.

55:34.76

mikebledsoe

Like ah like ah one day a year like the purge. Yeah.

55:44.52

mikebledsoe

Yeah, ah ah the reason I bring this up is like that the left and the right are interesting because like on the left. They really believe in consent when it comes to anything that's sexual in nature like there's but but when it comes to anything else.

55:58.12

Max Shank

Ah, yeah.

56:04.56

mikebledsoe

There's complete blindness to it and on the right? yeah and on the right they they want consent for certain things but completely disregard other things like people.

56:06.64

Max Shank

Um, it's like a mental illness both ways like how could you believe it's so weird.

56:19.61

mikebledsoe

I say this regularly like when people I'm talking to someone and they go what's wrong. Why do those people do this but then they do this. It doesn't add up and I go yeah most of what people are doing doesn't add up because they lack principles. They they.

56:32.44

Max Shank

Well um, almost everybody's a hypocrite on some level by the way like let's not put even ourselves up on like that high of a pedestal right? like everybody's working with that.

56:36.20

mikebledsoe

On some level. But percentage wise the amount of our life that we make decisions around are more principle based than the average person. The average person is going with Pop. Whatever's popular right? people go people want to be accepted by the group so they do what's popular. They don't.

56:51.78

Max Shank

God I Hope So yeah, true, true True true.

57:00.59

mikebledsoe

They're not running it through a filter of what are my values. What are my boundaries. What are my principle. What are the principles and by the way you don't get to choose the principles. The principles are are around us. Yeah, as I that's.

57:10.32

Max Shank

My body my choice across the board. My body my choice across the board that is what you're talking about that's why that's that's the only example because the only question the only important question just to cut through all this bullshit is who decides that's it.

57:17.87

mikebledsoe

A perfect example.

57:29.33

Max Shank

Do I decide or does some other guy decide. That's the only question that matters politically ever is who decides anytime it starts to get confusing. Just ask the question who decides and the argument crumbles for people who want to I don't know Gatekeeper A lady's vagina. People want to add some experimental fucking injections into your skin ah with the shortest track record of any kind of thing like that ever I mean these are both signs of mental illness to believe 1 about 1 and another about the other. It's ah. It's really weird. It almost forces people who are hyper left or hyper right to be mentally Ill like you have to shut off your thinking brain to think those are like some but.

58:19.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah there's um, you know we look at like Socrates and talking about what what makes someone human it was ah practicing having the practice of being in touch with reality being in greater contact with reality. And this and this inability inability to see ah the principle at play like just completely unable ah is is being out of touch with reality.

58:38.84

Max Shank

Pretty pretty nebulous.

58:46.20

Max Shank

A.

58:53.84

Max Shank

I Like the dune experiment for figuring out if he's a human where they put his hand in the pain box and say if he takes it out. They'll cut his throat with a poisonous needle so he has to withstand tremendous pain.

58:56.13

mikebledsoe

In which.

59:01.65

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

59:11.60

Max Shank

Thinking He's like sacrificing his burning hand in order to keep his life and I think that is kind of the secret to wealth and planning and any of that is can you see can you see the big picture. Can you see the forest for the trees and the trick is you can't see the forest. And the trees at the same time so you have to alternate you have to cycle you have to hone in like a laser on something and then you got to open up your awareness like a lantern and take in everything around you to make sure that you're still focusing your energy. In the right direction kind of like we talked about with structure versus flow structure as the pipe flow is water if you don't have ah that that rushing water channeled somehow. Well you're just moving along with the River and that's fine, but you're going to go in the same direction as the rest of the water.

01:00:03.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, and I the some my practice over time is I've had a easier time in my life being zoomed out than zoomed in and um I don't know if that's.

01:00:15.98

Max Shank

Are.

01:00:21.86

mikebledsoe

I would say that I could spend more time zoomed in I still spend more time zoomed in but I noticed that the amount of time I spent on considering when I think about expanding my awareness around something that lantern there's there's 2 ah dimensions to consider one is space and the other one is time.

01:00:23.57

Max Shank

Indian.

01:00:41.80

mikebledsoe

And so there's there's what's happening right now and there's what I want to happen in None ears There's also what's happening right now in the space that I'm in but what's happening in you know, Dc right now or just right down the street like how much. How much space can you consider and how much time can you consider when you're making your decisions when you're setting the vision. What how much can you consider? most people don't practice that expansion of time and space when setting the vision.

01:01:04.70

Max Shank

How many variables go into your decision making equation right.

01:01:18.30

mikebledsoe

Or making decisions. Um and because of that for anyone who is unable to do that. They're more easily to be controlled by someone who does do that.

01:01:29.19

Max Shank

Absolutely Um I think the average person is constantly pushed and pulled by a variety of forces to do things that are as frictionless as possible and for them as Motionless as possible. And those are forces. Um from a software engineering standpoint from a psychological engineering standpoint and also from an evolutionary standpoint.. There's nothing better for a curious lazy Monkey mind who's trying to maximize efficiency to just sit around and Watch. An Endless stream of crazy shit. So if you don't draw that Boundary. You're never going to pick your head up and ah like I'm not trying to call anyone out or anything but you see some of these kids these days. Fucking kids I hate that phrase. What am I doing that for these kids these days I feel old saying that feel silly I don't feel old until I talk like that. But basically they're like looking straight down into the telephone and it's adults too. Don't get me wrong while they're walking. Maybe they walk.

01:02:26.28

mikebledsoe

You're so old.

01:02:42.30

Max Shank

Into traffic. Maybe they walk off a cliff something like that. But it's the perfect visual of someone who's so ah, locked in psychologically onto something that isn't even really good for them and when we talk about drawing boundaries for ourselves like I'm going to say no to crack today every day I'm like. I'm going to say no to crack and every day I have so far and it feels like a little like a little victory like I didn't do crack again and ah if I do crack though. It'll be bad.

01:03:02.63

mikebledsoe

Yes.

01:03:10.84

mikebledsoe

We also you also have like ah we have a record breaking ah amount of kids on things like Sslris on antidepressants and anti-angolytics things that things that dep.

01:03:21.60

Max Shank

Yeah, those are good drugs Mike those are good drugs. They're just good for you. Everyone should be on those right? They're on the Tv isn't it like 75% of commercials pharmaceutical ones.

01:03:30.80

mikebledsoe

You know what's interesting is think about this? Yeah, it's It's a lot. Ah every news.

01:03:39.84

Max Shank

There's got to be something wrong with you. Are you watching the Tv there's something wrong.

01:03:42.48

mikebledsoe

Um, well,, there's ah, there's a theory that ah one of the reasons that the government is so friendly to pharmaceutical companies is that when under the influence of these these drugs that. People become docile way more easy to control like like please pass the xanax out please pass What I don't know these drugs are called anymore.

01:04:01.33

Max Shank

Holy yeah, totally totally.

01:04:09.90

Max Shank

If I was going to get a bus full of people on a field trip and I had the choice between giving them heroin or crack at the beginning I would clearly choose heroin every time they would be mostly still.

01:04:20.86

mikebledsoe

Exactly.

01:04:25.87

Max Shank

Could be like hey we're going over to this bench over here way easier to control that that doesn't surprise me one bit.

01:04:31.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so yeah I've heard discussions of you know? ah the food supply being fucked up in certain ways intentionally as well to reduce the amount of testosterone that men have because.

01:04:46.70

Max Shank

When people get afraid also like a ah scared stoned guy. He'll do anything. He'll do anything you want that guy is scared and stoned. You're like hey I need your left leg but I'll protect you until tomorrow. Thank God you're here.

01:04:59.19

mikebledsoe

Yeah, could you imagine I was I was the last couple years I've just been thinking about people popping and all these pills and then watching Tv so you're you're popping pills and watching Tv you have no autonomy you you are.

01:05:03.20

Max Shank

Ah. Oh My god.

01:05:15.70

mikebledsoe

You are a hundred percent slave at that point and pc what's that.

01:05:17.73

Max Shank

Npc Baby Npcs a non-player character I'm ah showing my nerd card here. But ah when you're when you're playing ah an rpg or a role playing game I don't play a lot of them these days but there were some good ones. A non-player character is character in the game um played by the computer software. It's not another person like you or me it's just like a software thing and they they respond very predictably. You know.

01:05:45.78

mikebledsoe

Um, well isn't this like some somewhat of the premise of the matrix and.

01:05:50.65

Max Shank

Very much so the premise of the matrix even more so the premise of that was it free guy I think I saw it free free free guy. It's like ah ah no, no, no, it's deadpool it isn.

01:06:01.39

mikebledsoe

What's that oh is that the Markie Mark film Ryan ran oh yeah yeah I saw that.

01:06:10.55

Max Shank

Ryan Reynolds and he's ah he's like a video game character that comes to life somehow with some general ai code and it's kind of a fun like a rite of passage I guess his rite of passage is going from like a. Ah, computer character like ah do this I go to the bank. Whatever to like a regular.

01:06:32.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and he wakes up and he's like like something something wakes him up. Yeah.

01:06:37.63

Max Shank

Something clicks different I can't remember exactly what it yeah matrix same way as like wake up Neo and then so you're right.

01:06:43.57

mikebledsoe

Well, that's a think the thing that I that I that I um get curious about because I I think these movies are good. Analogies is in the movie. The matrix he talks about how like anyone who. Has not woken up yet has to be considered an enemy but you're also trying to turn them all the time you're trying to wake them up the whole time. So. It's a very.. It's an interesting.. How do you approach people who are the was an npg Npc how.

01:07:06.40

Max Shank

A.A.

01:07:20.57

Max Shank

Npc.

01:07:22.50

mikebledsoe

How do you approach Npcs with compassion. You know they're while also recognizing and when I now now that I'm speaking out loud I'm thinking they're not necessarily the enemy. They're just dangerous.

01:07:26.31

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:07:35.18

Max Shank

Yes, that you know it's funny. You said that because as soon as I heard the word enemy it felt wrong, but dangerous feels absolutely right? You have to set those boundaries like we talked about before but then that's where compassion and curiosity come in.

01:07:41.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:07:54.72

Max Shank

Like do you blame a dog if it was beaten its whole life and for me I look at folks and I just don't tolerate their behavior but I also don't like judge them as evil for it like I don't tolerate Behavior I don't want.

01:08:08.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:08:12.64

Max Shank

But it's not about that individual I don't judge that individual just the same way I don't judge the dog that had bad owners and you you think about how many generations of Shitty Shitty parents on every level not just biological parents. But also. The prevailing myths of the land and time that we're in the people on the Tv all that shit just generation of generation of people doing anything they can to like feel safe and maybe even loved. Let alone self-actualized fuck that for most people loves love is a stretch for most people and I think the more you ah the more a person is kept in lizard mode in that fight or flight the faster and less. Um.

01:08:52.89

mikebledsoe

That's terrifying. Um.

01:09:09.80

Max Shank

The faster they'll respond and the less ah thoughtfulness rationality and logic and wisdom. They'll use to make that decision. They'll just react fearfully.

01:09:15.98

mikebledsoe

Well yeah, because it's a reaction. Well one it's quick and 2 It's predictable like if you if you know somebody pretty well if you know an individual pretty well I mean we've all did this. Ah you know I've done this when I was a lot more when I was younger and I was a little more cruel.

01:09:22.89

Max Shank

Right.

01:09:35.71

mikebledsoe

Like oh watch this I'm gonna say this something to this guy and he's gonna fucking flip his shit right now and I would say it and they would flip their shit I'm like and I would get kicks it make me make me laugh. You know.

01:09:41.64

Max Shank

Oh really.

01:09:49.33

Max Shank

Ah, so you fucked with idiots for sport How very cool.

01:09:52.49

mikebledsoe

Well yeah I mean this was this was something in the Navy to like in the military. It's you know there's a little bit of like brotherly cruelty going on. Yeah I don't do it anymore. But but it it.

01:09:56.49

Max Shank

Um, ah I'm not saying it's bad. Yeah I think mockery is really good I think mockery is like a lighthearted form of criticism.

01:10:12.39

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it. It comes it. It comes with a lot of predictability though and I always love um, extrapolating the individual out to culture and so you have these people who've been studying How does society React. Society doesn't thoughtfully pause and respond they society draw cold is it? Ah yeah, yeah.

01:10:35.56

Max Shank

Fish Tail Fish Tail I think is the term for it when you over when you overcorrect if you're a skidding in the car and you overcorrect you start fish tailing a little more back and forth mm.

01:10:49.17

mikebledsoe

Why they always talk about the pendulum swinging in culture. So it goes from you know one side to the other. Yeah we definitely I mean just look at what ah went from Trump to Biden like as about as opposite as you can get right? It was a hard swing. It's it's not like they went from 1 person to the center.

01:11:03.97

Max Shank

Um, yeah, right.

01:11:07.91

mikebledsoe

And went like complete left wing puppet mode and um whereas Trump was the uncontrollable bull in the China shop and so it was like people were like okay I don't we don't like this mess I don't like like this makes me.

01:11:17.76

Max Shank

Any.

01:11:27.18

mikebledsoe

Uncomfortable like what's who's going to be the least threatening person who's just going to go along with everything possible. Oh it's this guy So like the fish tale The the fish tale like it's right. It's like that. There's an overcorrection.

01:11:33.20

Max Shank

Um, well ah man.

01:11:44.43

mikebledsoe

So does it. There's just keep swinging harder and harder like are we going to get like ah I think I think it I think I think the next Ronald Reagan is next in that case.

01:11:49.41

Max Shank

Typically I think that's how it works.

01:11:55.71

Max Shank

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. But ah.

01:11:56.89

mikebledsoe

What was he yet. Ah Jimmy Carter he was a 1 term democrat the end of the seventy s he was probably he was considered the worst president ever by a lot of people and then um and then Reagan came along in just it was a landslide and ah.

01:12:08.20

Max Shank

And.

01:12:16.13

mikebledsoe

I mean I think who who's coming in next like yeah I'm just I'm just throw it out. There's like I think we're gonna see like a a pretty right winger come into Desantis. Yeah.

01:12:19.81

Max Shank

It's a good question. Yeah. Probably that Florida guy will win at some point in the near future. That's my guess he seems like like some kind of war veteran seems like pretty squeaky but I don't I don't really follow it I just have this understanding that. Along with the idea of god being intrinsic believability. We have the same thing with the wings. Unfortunately so as soon as someone puts on the blue t-shirt and says I'm on the blue team. Even even if that guy is fucking a rapacious idiot. Everyone with a blue t-shirt ons like yeah, we like that guy. He only fucking rapes those red guys like okay and then and then the red guys will do like the same thing and they're like yeah fuck those gay guys putting on wedding rings or whatever I don't I don't know exactly what it is but but it's stupid. It's like why.

01:13:08.92

mikebledsoe

I.

01:13:19.26

mikebledsoe

Ah, a.

01:13:22.59

Max Shank

Why we?? Ah, but it's um, it's specialization just like you get the Electrician to do your electrical shit because he has better specialization. We have this idea that someone will choose better, but that's just not the case. That's why you vote with your feet you vote with your dollars. It's never going to be better. The only. Like the smartest thing The founding fathers did was the separation of power separation of church and State Boom Boom right? off the bat that was huge and then they tried to separate the the state itself even more. So So you're trying to divide up the power. But of course the ultimate division of power is called.

01:13:49.73

mikebledsoe

Or they were boop. Yeah.

01:14:01.41

Max Shank

The customer. So the customer just buys. Whatever the fuck they want to and no one can force them to but whatever the pendulum swings I don't want to talk about fucking constitution every week Mike okay I get it.

01:14:12.65

mikebledsoe

Ah I want you did that to you. You did that to yourself.

01:14:19.33

Max Shank

I did to myself and I'm mad now.

01:14:22.38

mikebledsoe

Ah, he's so red in the face right now folks so red in the face. He's he's worked up.

01:14:34.68

Max Shank

Ah, oh God It's awesome.

01:14:37.46

mikebledsoe

Oh I know we're to take the show now.

01:14:41.31

Max Shank

We went off the rail so long ago we didn't even talk much about lake to Lake Tahoe was beautiful I was just there. It was really nice. It was one of the most relaxing times I've ever had I was there. Ah there four days ago.

01:14:49.20

mikebledsoe

What are you doing late tahoe. Ah, then we whip last you back here you got me on the show and just like.

01:15:00.18

Max Shank

I'm experiencing my boundaries being crossed really hard right now. Ah it was amazing I sat in a river at the top of a waterfall overlooking ah Lake Tahoe and Cascade Lake is 1 of the most beautiful views ever.

01:15:17.23

mikebledsoe

I Know what you're talking about where where do you? where do you like to stay when you grew up there.

01:15:18.17

Max Shank

So um, you know lately. We've been going up to ah heavenly. So right on the state line. Um I've stayed in a vehicle a couple times also and there's ah on on the Nevada in Nevada.

01:15:28.50

mikebledsoe

Yep, that's where I stay most of time I I used to say where.

01:15:37.35

Max Shank

So you know how there's that imaginary line between the places called Nevada and California you're you're legally allowed to sleep in a vehicle in Nevada so rent divan rent an Rv Boom Boom Boom Nevada site there are also like really nice campsites everywhere. But if you're just looking to. Ah.

01:15:38.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:15:56.60

Max Shank

To be there. You just go pop over to the Nevada side hang out there and then do whatever you want in the California side but usually a heavenly state line area on the southeast side is beautiful and that cascade falls in Cascade Lake overlook in ah. Overlooking like tahoe. It's one of the most epic views ever. The fact that you can just like climb in also and get that cool river running around you the sound the view. The feeling of the cold water. It's something that is truly indescribable.

01:16:22.70

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:16:33.78

mikebledsoe

know know I stay heavenly most of the time when I go I go to 3 times a year I used to go to incline village a lot but which on the Nevada side. But yeah made some friends it really just depends on where my friends are located has.

01:16:34.78

Max Shank

With words. Yeah, it's awesome.

01:16:44.73

Max Shank

Um, that was where I first went to. It's totally man. It's not as ah pop in incline is more quiet for sure much much smaller town.

01:16:53.20

mikebledsoe

Because I got a friend and I got a couple friends and incline I got a couple friends and heavenly. Yeah.

01:17:03.42

Max Shank

Like if you want to like it state line. There are those like 4 or 5 casinos right? right? on the line where it's totally illegal to gamble versus where it's completely deeply encouraged to gamble as much as possible I love lake tahoe.

01:17:06.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:17:20.92

mikebledsoe

It's like heaven.

01:17:22.94

Max Shank

It is. It is a beautiful place I found the greatest breakfast burrito ever of all time. Ah at place called Ver Day bear day mexico oh man Teresa Breakfast Burrito I had ah addd 3

01:17:28.14

mikebledsoe

Oh yeah, ver day.

01:17:40.93

Max Shank

Of them in about 24 hours and they were not small, but if you find something that's good. You stick with it. So I'm like taking burritos on hikes now I ended up in a caloric surplus after all those breakfast book burritos.

01:17:52.76

mikebledsoe

There's a there's a place that does sells solely beef jerky over there I'm not remembering the name of it right now. Highly recommend it. Some of the best jerky I've ever had which is great for hiking when I go hiking I Usually just take beef jerky and honey with me just.

01:17:55.75

Max Shank

Is. Wow.

01:18:06.72

Max Shank

I Think you might get a lot of people going to this ah this tahoe Spartan I Think that's your I think that's your crew, a free entry come on. It is one of the greatest places I've ever been in the world and I've I've traveled a lot of cool places.

01:18:15.27

mikebledsoe

Free entry, beautiful race look and you can now you can now buy weed in both California and Nevada so you can join me on my I suggest thought you know if you're a newbie. 4 or five Milligrams at the starting line if you're a season veteran of of the cannabis game I'll let you make your own decision on how much you take. But I'll be taking around ten milligrams at the starting line and just enjoying the day.

01:18:45.80

Max Shank

Mike is gonna Mike is gonna be selling cannabis kits for the spartan race at the starting line that will get you guaranteed to get you from the start to the finish high as a kite.

01:18:54.13

mikebledsoe

That's right.

01:18:59.52

mikebledsoe

Ah, we're gonna set up a little station along the way is like just in case just in case your joint got wet. We're gonna you know, light you up ass it bring your cash folks.

01:19:02.46

Max Shank

That sounds fair. Oh my god but the price just gets higher every mile further along the road. Oh my gosh. But seriously if you haven't been to Lake Tahoe and you get the chance you gotta to go to Lake Tahoe is

01:19:14.94

mikebledsoe

We only accept Bitcoin actually.

01:19:21.28

Max Shank

Ah, beautiful, Beautiful place.

01:19:22.10

mikebledsoe

Absolutely thanks for selling it? Yeah yeah.

01:19:25.55

Max Shank

Yeah I love lake Tahoe is I think I've been back there more times. Ah, maybe than any other play like I love yosemite also but I just keep going back to Lake Tahoe even though it's an 8 our drive it just it's like nothing else. You can get a nice airbnb up there too for like none to 53 and then of course there's really nice stuff like 1500 ten K a night but for for two hundred bucks you can have a really nice. Base camp with view of the lake showers I'm I'm sold. It's it's maybe maybe my favorite place to actually go so power of no yeah power of no if you don't set boundaries people are going to tell you what to do all the time.

01:20:09.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah I can cur I can cur well wrap it up.

01:20:21.62

Max Shank

And you probably won't even notice because it'll just be a really enticing offer saying no internally to your own actions that continually fuck you up can be really valuable I think that goes all the way from crack to The. Cellular telephone which is just another way that we pleasure ourselves to take our minds out of the moment so we can go be somewhere else and then externally it can be difficult to say no to people. Because their reaction may be unpredictable, but ah, you don't you don't really have your own life If You're always just saying yes to everything. So if you draw those boundaries. Also you will be shocked at how much extra time you have here's ah, here's living proof that I do draw some boundaries. Well. A piece of fabric that I knitted just learned how to knit over the weekend. Pretty nice. You can see the excellent knit stitch there is where I cast on and then bind it off learning the new Lingo So ah, juggling.

01:21:20.53

mikebledsoe

Ah, okay.

01:21:37.32

Max Shank

Knitting prepping for a Spartan race If you draw boundaries you can do it all if you don't draw boundaries you will do ah exactly the most predictable thing with the least amount of effort all the time the natural way.

01:21:51.95

mikebledsoe

Well said I have nothing to add. Um go to Lake Tahoe and um I want to mention that the weekend before lake tahoe spartan race I have the strong coach summit.

01:21:55.38

Max Shank

Um, also go to Lake Tahoe oh

01:22:09.70

mikebledsoe

It is a allinclusive retreat happening here in Austin Texas I rented out a summer camp round 2 I'm doing 2 a year I'm doing a spring and fall. So again, it's ah it's gonna be 3 nights two days of all inclusive retreat and.

01:22:10.91

Max Shank

Um, oh round 2 yeah baby hell yeah.

01:22:28.24

mikebledsoe

Um'm bringing in killer speakers people who have been in the coaching game are going to help people become better coaches learn how to grow their businesses all that stuff and we're gonna have a great time doing it. So I don't have the. Sales page up for that yet but be on the lookout folks market on your calendars September sixteen through None anything you want to mention there max where can people find you max shink dot com there you go.

01:22:58.78

Max Shank

http://maxshank.com @maxshank. Thanks Mikey! Thanks guys! Love you guys. Bye.

01:23:04.65

mikebledsoe

Love you I.

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00:00.00

mikebledsoe

Welcome to Monday morning with Mike and max and today we're going to be talking about freedom because you know what it is the fourth of July and we are americans and so of course not only are we totally into the conversation today but we're into it. All the time max and I are both lovers of freedom and in our own ways which is kind of like how freedom works you get to do it your way. So thanks for joining me Dave Max so you are begin this topic with you since I think you and I are both. We've spent a lot of time focusing on this topic.

00:41.30

Max Shank

Well thanks for having me once again, it is certainly my favorite topic. It's also what I would like to impart or share with people. Basically when I think about what I would like to share with folks I would like to help them become more free because I don't.

00:54.71

mikebledsoe

Hang on. Yeah.

01:00.59

Max Shank

I don't I don't I don't want to be your Mama I don't want to be responsible for you and that's the beauty of freedom is there's you are responsible for yourself and this other person is responsible for themself and there's interdependence that comes through agreements.

01:03.23

mikebledsoe

I am.

01:19.29

Max Shank

Volitional choices and I think that's amazing. That's what allowed us to get everything going. That's what allowed us to do so well basically hands writing and cooperation. Otherwise we would still just be you know lion food pretty much.

01:30.17

mikebledsoe

I.

01:37.50

Max Shank

You know I'm saying Ah so I I think I would like everyone listening to this to become more free and I think a good way to understand it would be the different types of freedom and then also what's the opposite of freedom and who are the key players and how this all worked.

01:37.97

mikebledsoe

Definitely.

01:56.30

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

01:57.16

Max Shank

So if you don't mind I'd I'd love to kick things off.

02:00.43

mikebledsoe

Kick things off when you got more to say right now is that what you're saying oh well None I want to mention if you want access to the pre-show you have to go to go over to the bloodso show dot com we'll have a link over there to.

02:03.16

Max Shank

Yeah I mean ah yeah I Just I don't want to drone on and on too much. But I think about it like free freedom is a new go for it.

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mikebledsoe

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02:24.56

Max Shank

Um, pay what you want I like that phrase. That's that's a better 1 pay what you want.

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Max Shank

Well, they can't pay that much. This show is invaluable so pay the intersection of what you value the show and what you can afford.

02:39.37

mikebledsoe

Make it make you know pay as much as you possibly can is.

02:50.61

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so that keeps us ah, trucking along. And yeah, if you go up there if if you're listening on the day that we post this that link is not going to quite be up yet. But if you're listening in a few days from now I should have that up in the next week so

02:57.20

Max Shank

It will have.

03:08.77

mikebledsoe

We're Goingnna give some exclusive content there posting some short videos of our pre-show which sometimes I think what's happening in the preshow is more valuable than what's happening here. There's a little more put together. But you miss all the ramblings. That ah happened and in fact, if you go listen to today's pre-show you get to hear max's poem that he wrote this morning. Yeah yeah, so he shared a poem to kick that off. So I just want to mention that first. Ah so I appreciate everyone who's I've had.

03:30.89

Max Shank

Oh that's right.

03:44.95

mikebledsoe

I've had ah people already reach out in the Dms asking me how the hell do I donate someone asked for venmo accounts I was like hold on I was like hold off we're gonna set something up I want to do this proper from the very beginning. So um, they do like us.

03:47.58

Max Shank

Um, oh Wow cool.

03:57.65

Max Shank

They like us. They really like us. Thanks everybody. That's so nice I feel validation that I I used to only feel from the affection of a woman I'm sure no other guys out there ah tried to get all their validation from the affection of women right? That's a mistake.

04:02.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

04:14.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've never done that I've never done that. Yeah yeah.

04:17.39

Max Shank

I mean I think that's only a mistake I've made I don't think anybody else talk about a type of slavery right? you you are your sense of self is ah enslaved by the whims and affection of women that's brutal.

04:31.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, which I mean women are pretty much the whole reason we do anything at the end of the day. So yeah, and you know what if I'm a slave to that then fuck it I'm I'm down.

04:37.70

Max Shank

Yo Absolutely for sex and food.

04:46.22

Max Shank

Um, yeah, they're they, they they look and feel nice. Don't they totally worth. Ah, ah.

04:50.78

mikebledsoe

Totally worth it. Totally worth it. Well um, we we had a little conversation during the pre-show that really lights me up which is ah max brought up the word. No. Which I think is at the center of the freedom conversation and there is the internal experience of saying no and that is ah being willing to disappoint others or not meet the expectations of others when someone asks you to do something or be somewhere.

05:25.62

Max Shank

The.

05:27.57

mikebledsoe

You say? No I don't want to um and then there's um, and then there's the the lack of violence when you tell somebody? No,. There's the the external experience of freedom which is. The ability to say no and people actually honor that. Yeah.

05:48.43

Max Shank

Well, it's drawing a line in the sand right? I'm I'm pretty sure the origin of drawing a line in the sand was basically if you cross this I will fuck you up and that's that's really if we have ah differences. That's how we resolve them. We can do it like you and I are doing right now we can talk it out say no and if that knows not respected The only thing left is physical violence which force is the language of cells and the language of life and ah. Even inorganic stuff like rocks I mean force is really what what moves things along which sounds like a funny phrase. But if you draw solid boundaries. You also won't become resentful. That's a big part of it and the biggest part I think. And it's a really hard concept to understand and I bring it up all the time which is opportunity cost if you neglect to say no when it matters then you will prevent yourself from saying yes to things so the cost of not drawing boundaries. Is that you don't get to use that energy for the things that you really want to say yes to so freedom and focus are both related to the word. No and this is true with your health. It's true with your finances. It's true with friendships. It's. Really really important. Um, so that's a big part of it I would also like to today just thank everybody involved for the freedom experiment that you and I are now enjoying in America I think a lot of us. Ah, it's very easy to forget that this is a pretty new concept in terms of how nations are organized. This is a big big group of people united around the concept of freedom. Probably the biggest None ever actually and. Certainly deteriorated a little bit but before that the only type of freedom there was was probably like nomad nomadic tribes and stuff like that. But you're still going to have some sort of a hierarchy. So this idea that everyone is free to do what they like. The pursuit of happiness is a type of magic really and that code and all those people involved set in motion a series of events that allowed for the greatest possible comparative advantage and specialization.

08:37.41

Max Shank

If You are super ambitious about baking muffins and that is all that you want to do you can do that and no one can tell you to do anything otherwise and the cumulative effect of everybody being free to choose out of love what they most want to do. Led to the highest advancement Possible. You're always going to get a much higher passion and performance if the reason or the mission is derived from a place of of love right? so.

09:09.79

mikebledsoe

Yeah, wells gone.

09:13.44

Max Shank

It it wasn't just the people who thank you? It wasn't just the people who wrote the declaration of independence it was a lot of people before that also a lot of it was actually just because of the book common sense by Thomas Paine ah from what I've read and understand. A lot of the guys who signed the declaration of independence just earlier that year were basically thinking. Yeah, we should get back with England we should. We should get back with them and then common sense came out and it's it's worth a read. It's still good. It was the most widely read book ever at the time it it sold more copies than the literacy rate it was outrageous how popular this book was and so it just goes to show the power of an idea.

09:57.40

mikebledsoe

Oh.

10:05.58

Max Shank

Ah, so I I thank Thomas Paine I think the people who who risked a lot I mean there was a lot of bloodshed There was a lot of risks being taken and it's like freedom is basically never given right. It's only taken. And so I I guess I really because I don't have a frame I've ever been to war I've done none of fighting like in a ring with the rare scuffle outside in the world but man I have a really deep appreciation for. All of the people involved and it's still right now there are a lot of people involved with preserving this idea that we are free to do as we please and everyone else is free to do as they please because that's that's not how it went right? right? before this experiment. That's not how it went and I think.

10:56.43

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

11:02.51

Max Shank

A lot of what happened there was a catalyst for the industry and technology that give us different types of freedom I mean you are free from doing your laundry by hand if you have a.

11:21.48

mikebledsoe

But well tech What ah tech comes um I mean I've seen instances where the tech is what preceded the freedom. So for one we can agree on that.

11:21.48

Max Shank

A washing machine and a dryer. It's incredible. So all that tech was because of the freedom I believe.

11:34.39

Max Shank

Freedom Freedom is a technology. Also I think we can agree.

11:40.81

mikebledsoe

Yeah but ah so there's 2 things that really led to ah the the declaration of independence and following that the constitution and ah, what the 2 things that I see that led to that one was the enlightenment period. And that's where guys like John Locke and some other philosophers really laid the groundwork. Um for there was a lot of things happening in Europe and there was these ideas this idea of equal rights was emerging ah in Europe. And it was causing a lot of friction and that's None reason a lot of people came to America was like you know what? I don't want to deal with all this stuff in Europe let's get out of here. Yeah, it's three or four weeks on a boat we might die but fuck it. Let's go and so ah, very bold but the.

12:32.97

Max Shank

Bold very bold.

12:37.88

mikebledsoe

There were these ideas from the enlightenment period that that took hold and the idea of equal rights is that no one person is more has more rights than somebody else which in the end means that I have no right to tell you how to live your life as long as you're not impeding on my.

12:47.32

Max Shank

Oh.

12:57.50

Max Shank

Right.

12:57.22

mikebledsoe

Right? to do what I want so the idea of negative rights comes into play which never exists before. So if you go to Europe now the it the way the their minds work and a lot of americans it works like this too because the the european mindset is you know. I think you and I as long as we've been alive. It seems like a lot of americans think that europe has it more figured out than we do which is kind of weird. Um, yeah, and so.

13:23.16

Max Shank

The grass is greener on the other side. Um, but they don't consider the fact that you pay like a 20% value added tax on like basically everything you know so we have like fractional servitude with these taxations and it's just different place to place right.

13:31.92

mikebledsoe

Everything every step of the Way. Ah. Yeah, so the um, ah so the idea of negative rights comes into play and that is ah everybody had the the negative right is I don't have the right to do anything to cause you to do you know.

13:42.27

Max Shank

Yeah.

13:57.99

mikebledsoe

To stop doing anything you want to do as long as we're not harming each other is basically at the end of the day. That's how negative rights work and this was not a concept that existed prior to about None it was new up into that point everyone believed that the king.

13:59.72

Max Shank

And a.

14:17.80

mikebledsoe

Or the pope or somebody had been granted this authority from god and this is why Ah, this is why so many almost every country has this official religion that's affiliated with and America was the first one that came along. It was like you know what we're not going to do this whole religious thing. Because we're not going to try to tie up the idea of authority with the government and so um and so this whole thing of negative rights comes along and there was if you read the federalist papers and this is a thing that most americans I think really miss out on is they don't. Get the context of the constitution. They don't have the context for the declaration of independence both are are very important I took constitutional law 1 year and the the none month we spent studying the declaration of independence and I was like what is like they told us at the very beginning.

15:11.48

Max Shank

The.

15:16.62

mikebledsoe

We're stuck in declaration of independence first because this actually laid the groundwork for the constitution. So first a lot. Yeah, a lot of people are only looking at the constitution with 0 context. So then so you have the context of the declaration of independence so you need to have that context first.

15:22.91

Max Shank

It's like the sperm and the egg.

15:35.58

mikebledsoe

Most people don't have that and which you know today is the day that you know the the declaration of independence was was made a thing and then um, which was primarily written by Thomas Jefferson I believe and i.

15:42.17

Max Shank

Right. As I understand it. Yeah. We don't know for sure of of course. Well you said something big too which is content without context I Think that's one of the biggest traps that people can fall into like it's It's fine to.

15:53.88

mikebledsoe

No, there were no cameras. It's not an Instagram it's not on Facebook who knows.

16:10.67

Max Shank

Believe you whatever you want to believe but I'm pretty shocked Still you'd think I'd be desensitized to it by now by the by the strength of opinions held based on Absolutely no context whatsoever. It's it's just ah, it's basically just ah, a bird sound.

16:23.36

mikebledsoe

Right.

16:29.15

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

16:30.60

Max Shank

That is repeated like they hear this combination of sounds and then that comes back out again and it's impossible to take into account all of the variables. But ah, it really is if you want to understand something.. It's so important to have context for. What that is and when that might actually be correct.

16:49.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so so the context of something like the constitution is really um, a big topic right now because the supreme court whose primary job is to find out if a law is constitutional or not. That's that's about it.

17:05.89

Max Shank

Right.

17:09.18

mikebledsoe

They don't create laws. They just they make rulings on whether this law is something that could be upheld or not so.

17:15.39

Max Shank

And let's get clear real quick. What's the point of having a state and laws in the None place. It's just to protect property rights that's it. It's that part hasn't changed that is that's the core purpose.

17:29.84

mikebledsoe

That was but but the.

17:34.56

Max Shank

Same with pirates and gangs. It's like basically the guys are like hey we'll offer you protection in exchange for a little bit of your stuff. So It's really like no different than that and when you were talking About. Um. The interplay of negative rights. It. It made me think like okay, well yeah, that's that's the rule is that according to the law. You can't infringe on somebody else's property which is their self and their stuff.

18:09.51

mikebledsoe

Include your body. Yeah.

18:12.94

Max Shank

Yeah yourself and your stuff and but here's the thing like natural law is anyone can do anything. They want any time. So this whole idea of law is really just about consequences if they catch you and that sounds like a little funny but but that's really that's really all it is. If if they catch you. There are consequences if they don't There are basically no consequences So natural law is anyone or or everyone always does what they want and they can they can kill you they can punch you they can say mean things to you. They can steal your stuff. Doesn't matter the whole reason we would put faith in a higher power is if we believed that they would improve our property rights and decrease friction and decrease assault on our persons and so you have to look at the cost Benefit. Of What you're giving up versus what you're getting and I think it's really, um, certainly has split the crowd because a lot of people would agree that for what we ah give or for what we have taken. The ah return on that investment is very bad and not transparent either.

19:29.55

mikebledsoe

Yeah, very bad and and that was actually and that was that was definitely not transparent and that was one of the reasons that you know the the revolutionary war was fought was he's not doing shit for us. He just and just taxing us.

19:41.72

Max Shank

Why should we pay the King he's not doing shit for us over here. He's an ocean away fuck that guy. Yeah, right totally imagine. Yeah.

19:49.55

mikebledsoe

No protection, not providing enough for what he's taking and so that was one of the things that that motivated them. Um, but so I like to bring up the idea of negative rights because there's no such thing as rights outside of negative rights. There's. Anything. That's not a negative right? is what I would call a wrong and so self logic man I'm I'm sorry so I'm really twisting you up here. The thing is is when I talk to people about this sometimes they do.

20:12.65

Max Shank

This is tough logic to follow. Honestly, you got to write it down.

20:21.61

Max Shank

Um, the opposite of a negative right is a wrong.

20:30.83

mikebledsoe

That's right.

20:31.36

Max Shank

I'm pretty I'm pretty sure a negative right is a wrong. But anyway that mathematically.

20:35.16

mikebledsoe

No Ah negative. Well the the the reason well negative rights are rights and you have to the reason we have to use the language negative rights when we used to only have to use the word rights is because a lot of politicians have twisted up what rights mean. So people are confused that yeah that they've confused privileges with rights and you have the right to a really easy one to break down is medical Care. You have ah the right to medical care. It's like that's actually not.

20:53.73

Max Shank

Oh privileges.

21:12.40

mikebledsoe

True now because you have to take it from somebody else. So if if some authority figure comes along and says you have the right to medical care and then there's you walk into the doctor and the doctor says look I really.

21:12.73

Max Shank

I see now because you have to take it from somebody. Yeah.

21:31.76

mikebledsoe

I Can't afford to serve you right now for whatever reason the doctor doesn't want to do it and then an authority figure comes and says no doctor. This person has medical rights. You have to perform whatever it is on them that doctor that doctor has now become a slave. He's has to.

21:43.78

Max Shank

Right? Which is coercion word.

21:51.90

mikebledsoe

He has to conduct labor against his will and when I bring this up a lot of times people get really upset with me when I bring up that example because they're like but it would be wrong for the doctor to turn him down like look from an ethical standpoint when a doctor makes his his or her. Ah. Statement of what the hippocratic oath or whatever it is and they make the statement that they're going to. You know, help people who are in need and not turn anyone away. That's that's an ethical thing.

22:18.24

Max Shank

Right? That's worth going to look at by the way the hippocratic oath you can look it up is really cool. It's like a really awesome little bit of Linguistic magic. So.

22:29.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, So so what? I'm what I'm getting at is like this whole this whole that you have rights to somebody else's labor cause at the end of the and and the medical thing is really touchy because people people do feel like everyone should have access to this like emotionally, it's like. Oh yeah, everyone should have access to this but the thing is is not everyone has access to this.

22:52.19

Max Shank

It's just the image. It's just the image of it that sways people with rhetoric right? it like hospital rooms are scary death is scary. We don't want to face it so we have a scary enough image and then people are like you know what we should ah like steal from the neighbor.

23:02.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

23:09.48

mikebledsoe

Right.

23:10.90

Max Shank

For the greater good right? And here's how you cut straight to the core of any issue like this and you know I'm gonna let the I'm gonna let it fly today because fuck it here's the deal every day in the media. There's some new bullshit that is trying to ensnare you.

23:18.57

mikebledsoe

Ah, perfect.

23:28.64

Max Shank

And enslave your attention and that's already a fucking bad bad thing right? here's the deal though if you want to cut straight to the heart of any issue you ask None question who decides that's it doesn't every everything else take it off the table. Who decides and then you'll figure out what the deal is going on. You just ask who decides and then eventually you go oh so that other guy decides for me. Yeah, no thanks and me saying no, that's that's freedom. But if you want to cut to the heart of. The important issues. What's really important. Ah I don't know if ah if it's important like ah there are so many things that are made to believe to be important. It's make-believe we make believe that these things are important. But the None thing that is important is who decides that's all cut through the bullshit. That's what freedom is is who decides if I can say yes if I can say no, that's freedom if I cannot It's some form of slavery fractional or otherwise simple as that.

24:38.10

mikebledsoe

Yeah, totally agree I mean I think we're what ah probably around I'm like a 33% slave I think you're probably closer like a 48% slave because you're in California.

24:51.48

Max Shank

Fucking rubbing it in look at him do that to me Jesus Christ wow good god I'll tell you what though I'll tell you I'll tell you.

24:56.30

mikebledsoe

Um, just come to Texas already. Um, um, um, not only am my older but I'm less of a slave than you. Um.

25:07.95

Max Shank

Oh you're way more of a timela than I am folks for those listening and don't know I have way more ah agency and autonomy over my schedule than Mike here does. But you know you're going to talk about California. Let's talk about it. Imagine.

25:12.83

mikebledsoe

If.

25:26.80

Max Shank

Being one of those guys who owns a business in California they shut you down and then they don't protect your shop while it gets looted what the fuck are you doing the whole purpose that you're there is like whoa so they they steal none your shit. They don't come to your aid when you need it and they stop you from doing business. It's like the antithesis of freedom. So oh my god look we could talk about this all day but let's let's get back to something practical.

25:55.21

mikebledsoe

Um, a.

25:56.47

Max Shank

Otherwise I'm just gonna sound like an angry old man I'm only 34 fucking years old for Christ's sakes

26:02.35

mikebledsoe

Ah, all right? So ah, we'll get back to some ah something' a little more philosophical that'll help calm me down. So Ah anyways I bring up the the medical freedom because there's a lot of thing or medical rights Because. You got to watch out I want I want people to be aware so when they do come across these conversations when if they do get exposed to something a politician says and they say you have the right to this think about do they have to take something from somebody else to give it to you and if that is the case then it's not a right.

26:18.49

Max Shank

And.

26:37.69

mikebledsoe

Because you're you were in the end enslaving the other person. So yeah, another one that's popular in California is and I've had this experience because my my ah my fiancee Ashley she.

26:40.44

Max Shank

Yeah, you're just getting the loot from their fucking plunder.

26:56.10

mikebledsoe

Sold She had tenants in a building and she sold the building and she inherited the building from her grandmother and so she inherits like this commercial building. It's It's like mixed use commercial and residential and these she's like you know. Well if the tenants she's having to like she's learning about all this stuff in real time and going. Okay, the tenants don't make rent because sometimes they're late. She's like it's like can I kick them out because she's also trying to sell the building and if you have tenants not paying Rent. You're trying to sell a building then it's a fucking problem right? so.

27:26.81

Max Shank

Totally yeah.

27:31.92

mikebledsoe

She goes and talks to the lawyer to find out if she can kick the tenants out and they have to be so many months behind on rent then not only do you not get ah ah, get your money for what you own because that's her property she has to pay the tenants to leave.

27:49.62

Max Shank

Oh yeah, oh yeah, right right.

27:51.31

mikebledsoe

She has to pay them. It's like the opposite of ah property rights. it's it's crazy so um there's just another I wanted to bring up a None law. We'll we'll call it a statutory law that means it's ah it's an opinion of a group people not actual law that have been put in place.

28:06.72

Max Shank

Well, there are so many things like that right? and it's all for the illusion. It's all for the illusion of the greater good. This is the only way you can understand how these things happen you have to imagine 3 neighbors and they all get to vote.

28:10.64

mikebledsoe

That Ah, there's so many.

28:25.90

Max Shank

And if None neighbors vote to Rob the none then majority rules and that's basically the problem is if enough people you know None people vote to Rob the none that's majority rule. It's also called mob rule. In ah in a different term but it's the same thing so you can yeah but that's what I'm that's exactly what I'm saying a democracy is not a good thing and people don't understand that because if you have the majority vote to Rob the minority I don't think that's like a constructive solution and it builds resentment in the.

28:46.80

mikebledsoe

It's also called Democracy It's a pure democracy. Yeah.

29:03.84

Max Shank

The group it doesn't allow I mean they're look. We could go off on that tangent for too long, but.

29:06.46

mikebledsoe

Well well here's the thing is I think it's worth mentioning I'm glad you brought up democracy because the United States is not a democracy. It's a republic and the reason that it was not a democracy is because the founding fathers fathers were smart enough. The first republic I want to say was Greece.

29:13.54

Max Shank

Republic.

29:26.29

mikebledsoe

Um, and took a lot of the concepts from Greece in order to create what we have a lot of the same stuff but the idea is you got a lot of people who want to get rid of something ah like the electoral college They think the electoral college is robbing people of their votes and this and that.

29:29.22

Max Shank

Um, lot of the same stuff lot of the same stuff big time.

29:43.31

Max Shank

And those people live on the coasts and want to make decisions for everybody else I get it like of of course like you know you don't hate the player don't hate the player don't hate the game either. That's just like the the thing we're in like we could have just as easily been born in a feudal system.

29:45.35

mikebledsoe

But yeah, yeah, if you're part of the majority.

30:00.43

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

30:01.33

Max Shank

Of some kind where we had to like pay to a lord and he could fuck our wife on wedding night and all kinds of shit like that. So like look you got to you got to compare Apple's apples everything's relative but ah things are overall like awesome, but it's largely due to technology.

30:10.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, thank you.

30:20.20

Max Shank

And our ability to trade easily and in fact, so you could say ah trade and technology are kind of the the work of the private sector and it's kind of like um, the public sector tries to fuck everything up. Maybe with good intentions by the way I don't know like that Handlin's razor idea of don't attribute to malice what you could attribute to ah incompetence sometimes yes sometimes no probably more people are stupid than evil and no one thinks they're the evil one. They always think the ends justify the means. Um, that's why that's why I'm not surprised when stuff like this happens because if you get a very powerful ambitious person. They can spin a story in their own mind and if they believe that they can improve. The life of 90% by murdering 10 probably they would do that and I and I could understand that it doesn't make it right? but I can totally understand and that's why it's never a good long-term choice to consolidate power into one area. Because you'll get more speed faster decision making so if you have ah an authoritarian or a dictatorship or some sort of ah collectivism where it's like None or None people in charge. You have a single point of failure which is a problem. So if you have an insane guy can like kill. Ah, 0 people with a famine just by accident right? Just by being a fucking retard. Ah like that's killed way more people than religion is just people who think they're smart getting in charge and thinking that they can make all the decisions that. We should all be individually making on our own that's the that's the value that's one of the major values of freedom is that it's like ah a shock absorber that can work in real time you know, supply and demand cost and benefit are made on an individual basis which is relative to. The individual values and it can adjust things much more quickly. You know if the if the Ceo of Target came out tomorrow and said I don't want any like jews blacks or anyone shopping at Target everyone be like holy god damn we don't like that and we would all go to Walmart. Out of our own free choice probably and and that's why it comes back to who decides. So if it's None guy at the top you can get things done a lot faster. You can boom declare war one None word kill that fucker and there's no.

32:48.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

33:05.52

Max Shank

There's no ah diversification of that decision making so you can get things done way faster hey ah clone those people over there and they're like yes, ah yes, dictator man I will I will clone those people over there hey kill those people and and you will so you can get things done way faster.

33:06.54

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um.

33:24.48

Max Shank

Which can be an advantage in the short term. But ah, you know now you're at the mercy of 1 guy and that's pretty scary stuff. So diversification is a big part of freedom.

33:30.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah I don't get back to yeah I agree and I mean that's one of the I say the byproducts of freedom that that actually is in service of the whole over time. Um, so I me go back to.

33:46.91

Max Shank

It's also profitable transactions. So if every transaction is done Volitiony then there's always ah, an energetic surplus like I trade you voluntary choice. Yeah volition means voluntary choice. But.

33:52.83

mikebledsoe

He say he's volition. He means voluntary so be using such big words. Yeah, ah so ah.

34:04.35

Max Shank

Dude, let me use my word a day calendar. Okay I bought the thing.

34:07.33

mikebledsoe

So They ah it it being a Republic I mentioned the electoral college but congress the senate the Supreme court. All these things are set up to have checks and balances and everything is based off of the.. Basically the declaration of Independence in the constitution are these these base ah basis of all the laws that are written and most of them are not constitutional that are floating around these days but the whole point was to ah they realized that the average person. Needed to feel like they were involved in some way but they they do not. They shouldn't have like ah I guess an equal voice in how things should ah like be controlled by others because not everyone can see. View and there's there's That's why there's representatives and not everything's just yeah, it's a specialization.

35:00.19

Max Shank

Um, it's specialization right? like an Electrician is good with electrical electrical work. A politician is supposed to be good with political work. Of course there are a lot of problems with that. But that's the idea.

35:10.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and so that's why in my opinion up until this point a republic is the greatest form of government that's going to give somebody the greatest amount of freedom now. Ah you know. Is there something better probably with the with the way technology is moving with the decentralization of governance so things like the decentralized autonomous organizations daws. There are going to be things that we're going to be able to do with decentralized governance. And with Ai that is going to actually be able to make decisions that and ai is going to be able to croc information that no one human being can consider and so with the advancement technology. What I believe is we're going to be stepping into. A greater amount of freedom. Um, and there's also dangers that come with that of course. Ah and so going back. So I just want to make that statement about it being a republic not a democracy so on the news when they go oh this is a danger to our democracy which happens all the fucking time. Ah. Like sometimes youre like some I've had people tell me that I'm like well it's good thing. We're not a democracy and they they're like ah we're this one guy this german guy he yeah that this german guy he was like ah he was arguing with me on Facebook about something some guy went to burning man with.

36:30.79

Max Shank

Um, yeah, well there's semantic precision for you right? People don't even know what the word means.

36:45.25

Max Shank

Ah, yeah.

36:47.40

mikebledsoe

I mean this is years ago and he's like he's like something about democracy this and democracy. Yeah I was like well None off, you need to know that you're living in a country that's not a democracy. We're a republic and he's like what's that have to do with anything um like like you know, ah.

37:00.21

Max Shank

Ah.

37:05.75

mikebledsoe

The entire basis of your point is is being built around the idea of democracy That's that that doesn't actually exist here. So um.

37:16.43

Max Shank

Basically the Republic that was set up with Independence was to try to put as much shit in the way as possible from the government doing anything and and that's and that's the correct choice by the way it's.

37:26.17

mikebledsoe

Yeah, if you and the and the constitution was the constitution when you read it was it doesn't grant any rights to anybody it limits the government from impeding upon the rights that every individual has.

37:31.86

Max Shank

It's way more stable.

37:40.40

Max Shank

Exactly and isn't it Yeah isn't it funny too. We even havent I think it's the ninth one that says ah there are also more rights that we didn't write down.

37:46.15

mikebledsoe

And so yeah.

37:58.54

Max Shank

Basically, there's there's one like that. It's like you know, free speech and firearms. And honestly, if you have those 2 eventually it'll rebalance. It'll be a little turbulent but the whole like you know troops in peace time and not ah incriminating yourself and all these things that ah go on up. Ah, to that one where it's like Also we this this list is not Complete. We have even more than we wrote down.

38:23.89

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, hopefully you get the idea and then people didn't but but the thing is yeah um.

38:31.69

Max Shank

It's because they traded freedom for security and there's a quote about that people who trade freedom None security will lose both and deserve neither I think that might have been Jefferson I think it might have been Jefferson but maybe ah.

38:41.00

mikebledsoe

So Benjamin Franklin I think I put money on franklin yeah, but I mean nonetheless. Um, yeah, that that is what's happened so the other thing I want to hit on which what we were talking about the technology leading to freedom or freedom leading to technology I think.

38:48.40

Max Shank

Maybe it was Franklin I don't okay, yeah yeah.

39:06.12

mikebledsoe

I think the desire to be free is what does drive a lot of technology but an example so what created so I'm going to go back to the 2 things that created the situation in 76 when the founding fathers go you know what fuck you? we're doing our own thing. Is they had 2 things they had the enlightenment period so they had the philosophy which was the the development of consciousness to the degree in which they they recognized equal rights amongst every human being That's why it was written was it executed that way. Absolutely not. But guess what? we fast forward to today. It's been corrected. Tremendously. Um I think that if anyone were to argue that it's not as good now as it was two hundred years ago they'd be an idiot um and then well I would say as far as.

39:55.52

Max Shank

A lot of things are better and some things are worse. But I think Net net is better.

40:01.58

mikebledsoe

Say as far as like equal rights like there's not we don't have discrimination. Ah you know discriminatory laws based yeah well you know? yeah you know people of color and women being able to vote and all these types of things.

40:06.17

Max Shank

Oh that's a funny one. It's like the bros before hose amendments. You know that one.

40:18.22

Max Shank

Well isn't it funny though that we gave recently ah freed slave black men the right to vote long before women like I think that's a funny thing and I I feel that too I mean right now there's a lot of tension. Ah between men and women.

40:19.82

mikebledsoe

Um.

40:27.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

40:37.49

Max Shank

Mostly manufactured. But I think there's a lot more commonality between men of different races than a man and a woman of the same race I don't I don't I don't really think ah I don't think that's it's really more about upbringing but Gosh ah being a man or a woman is like a really.

40:45.51

mikebledsoe

I agree.

40:56.77

Max Shank

Different thing but having a different but having a different skin color in and of itself is not really a different thing and the only reason I believe that is because I'm not a racist and I cannot be a racist and think that generally black people Run faster.

40:57.76

mikebledsoe

It's a very different experience.

41:02.47

mikebledsoe

Not in. Um, what.

41:16.84

Max Shank

Asians are better at musical instruments and math and they become doctors more regularly I mean can't we all agree that this shit happens and not be racist at the same time seems so easy to me.

41:26.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, easy to you but not to people who were had their amygdala hijacked by the media. But ah, so so the 2 things the enlightenment period that gave rise to the philosophy and the way of thinking of equal rights.

41:33.10

Max Shank

Oh.

41:45.59

mikebledsoe

And the None thing that made the revolution possible was the decentralization of violence through the invention of the rifle and so hour to the people and so before the rifle came along.

41:53.85

Max Shank

Power to the people.

42:02.64

mikebledsoe

The amount of training and the cost of Weaponry and armor was too high for the average person to have the rifle comes along you require less training to kill somebody right? You don't need that much training to use a rifle fairly effectively like you can become deadly.

42:09.31

Max Shank

Um, ha ha.

42:22.29

mikebledsoe

You know in an afternoon of practice and exactly and so and.

42:24.70

Max Shank

And totally fuck up some guy who's done martial arts for 40 years with a sword that that changed my whole outlook on martial arts training I remember when I had that realization I was like I got to stop this I got to go start learn how to use a gun I'm not going to let some fucking. Hundred and ten pound asshole shoot me dead after training martial arts for 20 years that's ridiculous so it's it's the great equalizer right.

42:43.83

mikebledsoe

No, no, it is a great equalizer I think Smith and Wesson there's a quote from Smith and Wesson from the gun company has said men and women were created equal and. Smith and Wesson keeps it that way or something like that. Yeah yeah, it's like empowering women to carry a gun. You know like oh you, you don't want to have to rely on men for your safety. Well here's here's ah the great equalizer as you say so yeah, the the rifle would pierce the armor that was.

43:03.47

Max Shank

Oh That's pretty fun. Right.

43:16.54

Max Shank

Down.

43:21.92

mikebledsoe

Previously made to deflect swords and and arrows but a bullet you know, traveling at a thousand feet per second you know it it makes it through and so it really changed how warfare was ah conducted and actually what was that Mel Gibson movie with ah.

43:25.13

Max Shank

Ah.

43:41.73

mikebledsoe

No no the patriot I just saw a clip of it on Instagram and in that movie one of the things that that happened is they ah in a revolutionary war is when guerrilla warfare really started up until that point it was like.

43:41.77

Max Shank

Braveheart no the patriot. Yeah.

44:00.50

mikebledsoe

I've got my army and we're going to just March up to your army because that's what worked when they had like swords and and arrows and all this shit but like warfare actually didn't ah didn't really ah evolve.

44:03.98

Max Shank

Honorable.

44:13.12

Max Shank

In many parts of the world in sophisticated warfare. It was like we're going to March in a line at each other and what's funny is in bravehe heartt another Mel Gibson movie it's also all about freedom like he gets disembowlled and he like yells freedom and.

44:18.95

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

44:26.31

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

44:29.89

Max Shank

They're like doing sneaky shit and coming around the flank and all that stuff. So it's kind of funny how ah those movies really parallel each other under the same banner of free of freedom.

44:37.58

mikebledsoe

Oh for sure for sure. So ah, yeah, just thinking about that and like the scene I saw on Instagram ah, you know I follow ah an Instagram account called zulu fucks. So ah, you know it's a military you know some veterans put that shit together. Some sick fucks and who I enjoy and the ah you know they they have the scene where you know he's killing them with you know, rifles and hatchets and you know that was that was the weapon of his of choice right? He had the the hatchet he could throw and and all that um.

44:58.62

Max Shank

Yeah.

45:10.68

Max Shank

Right? It's like John wick. It's like murder porn right? for dudes John Wick 3 Keanereves fucks people up for 2 hours

45:14.95

mikebledsoe

But yeah, yeah, it is dude I finally watched I watched I've been wanting to watch John Wick for like 10 years and the last time I flew it was on the screen I was like oh fuck I'll watch it now. Um good movie.

45:32.13

Max Shank

It's funny. Yeah, yeah.

45:33.74

mikebledsoe

Actually I really enjoyed it. Ah so ah, so yeah, the the this decentral ah decentralization of violence through the invention of the rifle really is what allowed. Ah the Americans to get together and be able to. Hold the British back and everyone can fight that did not happen back in the day you were either a trained soldier or you weren't and if you weren't a trained soldier. You weren't fighting. Yeah yeah, mostly farmers.

45:53.17

Max Shank

Everyone can fight now I think that's even happening in Ukraine pass out a gun to everybody like.

46:07.57

Max Shank

You're probably a farmer. You know you said something really cool there which was that philosophical change and I often have thought about the fact that slavery is largely due to the definition. In the Dao. Ah 1 of the none passages is that ah naming is the origin of all particular things. So when you say there's this philosophical enlightenment shift. What that means is without that adjustment. People will go on believing the same thing that they have been believing. It's just like momentum. There's ideological momentum just like there's physical momentum. So. It's interesting to look back and see how many people were controlled with. With the threat of violence mostly I think of like ah a plantation in the south right? or or you know even before that just using a whip. You know you got maybe None people ah fully commanding None people and all they have is like whips and these people don't even think ah a. They think I'm I'm a slave and this is normal and this is what slaves do this is like a superior man and this is a slave even the code of hamurabi allegedly the oldest text for law which is basically like if you steal something we'll chop off your hand if you poke a guy's eye out. We'll poke your eye out if you rape his daughter you got to marry her and pay the dad fifty Silver shekels that kind of thing but it would it would refer to people as a superior man or an inferior man or a slave and so there were different classes of people and the reason there were different.

47:45.91

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

47:59.12

Max Shank

Classes of people was because that they believed and accepted those Classifications. So if you accept the classification of that. Ah, and you're and you don't have an. Imbalanced force kind of bringing it back to physics and Momentum. There's no reason that you would stop doing that.

48:19.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah. Um, I just did a quick search for a quote that I saw circulating on on social media which was a quote from Harriet Tubman saying I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.

48:40.91

Max Shank

Oh yeah, that's what I was trying to say but in a worse way I was I was saying it worse.

48:44.65

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but then you know of course if I go to one of the things that popped up I Want to do a search on it to be you know to confirm I was correct and there's ah, a politifact. Um.

48:53.14

Max Shank

A. Oh yeah, very reliable source.

49:00.73

mikebledsoe

That this this is hilarious actually like I never I I rarely ever do this, but it's like I end up on um, http://politifact.com to fact checker right? which is bullshit. Yeah, um.

49:10.18

Max Shank

I Want that job that seems easy I Just get to say right.

49:17.63

mikebledsoe

So. What's what's funny is like um, there's this explanation of how it was ah it was discredited in the none the none time ah like the the way it starts arguing that it was discredited is because um Facebook said it was debunked. And and fake like and then um, yeah, like their their primary sources and opinion from Facebook um, but ah, you know I don't know there. There is some more references and people.

49:39.34

Max Shank

So that's their source is that Facebook said it wasn't real.

49:56.95

mikebledsoe

Think that the comment's ridiculous. But of course if you don't know that you're a slave then of course that's going to sound ridiculous.

50:02.52

Max Shank

Right? The most effective chains are the ones that you don't notice and you can be a slave to different thing I think addiction is kind of like slavery in a lot of cases. Um you become a slave to that behavior or substance or or person.

50:06.23

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

50:21.28

Max Shank

Right? Like a code-dependent relationship like you're just totally totally a slave but you can't get out because you don't know. Ah what that would even look like.

50:29.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well that that quote makes me think about I remember reading um I took ah by the way I took african american english literature in college. There were 2 white people in the class at the beginning at the beginning of the semester.

50:42.79

Max Shank

Seems like a woke flex.

50:49.11

mikebledsoe

And then I was the only white person left at the end of the semester. Ah so to the beginning one was left ah I was really curious I was really yeah I was really really curious. Ah I enjoyed the class I thought it was fun.

50:57.52

Max Shank

Talk about being a minority.

51:08.16

mikebledsoe

I like english lit no matter what like any type of literature. Um I just love it. Ah, but None of the things that I realized in that class because we were reading you know well african american english lit and is that a lot of slaves when they were freed really didn't know what the fuck to do. And the same thing would happen now as if the government took off. You know people are like well what would we do? if there wasn't if nobody was taking care of this this this and this what would we do like we need to have that and and basically what I got from what I had read back then the the general theme that I saw was that.

51:36.60

Max Shank

Totally.

51:46.97

mikebledsoe

A lot of slaves didn't really want to be freed because they didn't know what to do with the freedom like there was a certain level of comfort and safety and knowing that I do this thing I go to work and I work work I work. However, many hours in the field. And there's going to be a meal for me and there's gonna be a roof over my head and yeah, like some things really Suck. You know if you step out of Line. You might get whipped or whatever it is but what was more scary was the uncertainty of freedom.

52:11.75

Max Shank

Right.

52:19.65

Max Shank

Um, I think that that's the only thing people fear is unknown. Um, like if you knew for sure that you were going to die on a certain day you wouldn't even fear it you had just accept it as reality. So it's the uncertainty.

52:21.63

mikebledsoe

Ends. Mostly.

52:36.99

Max Shank

That's why people are more afraid of a shark in the water than a bear on the land because you can't see it right? um.

52:39.75

mikebledsoe

I agree I've had the experience of both. Well I had the experience with the shark is like when I surf and I'm on top of the water. There's a I'm a little more like oh my God if something popped up I'd freak out but I've been diving with sharks and I was incredibly calm because I could see them and I was present with them and.

52:46.43

Max Shank

Um, yeah for right. In the epic of Gilgamesh. That's the scariest part is he's in a tunnel where you can't see a foot ahead or a foot behind and I think that's the oldest epic novel written down was ah was the epic of Gilgamesh but that was you know he's fighting all these like gods and monsters and shit.

52:58.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, encounter with bear recently and that wasn't so bad.

53:09.97

mikebledsoe

Um.

53:18.72

Max Shank

Not afraid. It's just when he's in the pitch black tunnel. He can't see what's ahead or what's behind and that's what the fear is really about I Think if you take what you're talking about um as ah as a leader something of a leader myself and often in the past very a very bad leader.

53:24.70

mikebledsoe

In 1

53:38.71

Max Shank

Ah, a lot of people are are craving direction. They're craving direction they want so they want a director just tell me what to do.

53:44.61

mikebledsoe

Yeah, Ashley and I had this conversation yesterday we were talking about marketing. We were talking about marketing I was like like really we we were. We were driving down the road and analyzing billboards and I was and and um because it's a fun exercise for me, but ah.

53:55.72

Max Shank

Ah, ah, ah, sounds really fun.

54:04.53

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and ah I was like oh they could have said it way better and people would have taken the action they want them to if they would have said it like this and it was simply changing the language ah to tell people exactly what to do instead of telling people what I do like.

54:16.47

Max Shank

Right.

54:21.77

mikebledsoe

If I want you to work with me I don't tell you what I do I Tell you what you do with me and so.

54:22.94

Max Shank

Well and even more you're gonna say here's what you're gonna do here's what it's gonna look like here's how it's gonna feel this is exactly because what you're doing I think of it like.

54:32.24

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, um.

54:40.82

Max Shank

You're taking someone from one shore across a river to another one and that other shore across the river is basically like the the pot of gold at the rainbow. It's everything they want and everything you have and what you're doing is you are creating and manifesting. An image that helps them believe and see how they are going to cross that potentially very turbulent river so it's bringing certainty through imagination and having a direct action that is really clear to take. Like call this number now for your free blank is ah is a way better call to action than what I like to do is blah blah blah blah blah it's like whoa. No people do crave that direction I can absolutely understand. Why being ah freed after a life of servitude would be bad. It would be like ah Batman Batman telling Alfred to fuck off basically right and he's like whoa. No I've been I've been serving the batmans. The Bruce Waynes and all that stuff for years I think a similar example is ah.

55:40.95

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

55:50.40

mikebledsoe

Well I want to I want to leave I go around.

55:52.85

Max Shank

Ah, stay a stay at home mom a stay at home. This is my last example on this thing because like a stay at home mom you're 20 years as part of a functioning family unit and now suddenly you're like I think I'm going to reenter the workforce and that was a lifetime ago so that that uncertainty is.

56:05.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah, my mom did that sheet I think she didn't work for 1819 years and then went back in and I think it was a little overwhelming for her at the beginning. But yeah, the yeah yeah.

56:11.51

Max Shank

Very pf.

56:17.63

Max Shank

What do I What do I Do tell someone tell me what to do and we're trained that way. You know we're crate trained in school obedience school I mean to do what other people tell us to do So it's no surprise that most people fall in line.

56:35.83

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and I I bring all this up because um, you know some people are going to hate me for saying it. But like people we weren't joking at the beginning of the show. We were kind of joking we were weren't joking that we're fractional slaves in that if you don't.

56:36.34

Max Shank

With that ideology.

56:52.70

Max Shank

Yeah.

56:54.82

mikebledsoe

If We don't if we don't voluntarily participate with paying taxes and doing some other things and we're going to get beat down with a stick and stuck in a cage. Ah so like so like I think a lot of times. It's hard. For people to hear a statement from a white guy about ah such things. Yeah.

57:17.77

Max Shank

Only for racists only for racists if you discount the opinion of a person based on the lack or presence of melanin their skin. You're fucking racist just because someone's black doesn't mean we should think what they have to say matters and just because a guy is white. Doesn't mean that what he says doesn't matter the whole the whole idea of anti-racism is just racism by a different name that that is like a huge ah that's a type of ideological enslavement is thinking that that. Bullshit matters and those are burdens those are chains that you got to wear and like I was saying at the very beginning the news cycle is making you care about so many things that are outside your control and you're just going to get a greater and greater separation. Between your locus of control which is literally just you and then your radius of awareness of what is going on and they're like hey this important thing is happening a million miles away hey this important thing is happening to this ah gay something black. Whatever guy. And I'm not trying to like demean anybody it's just like those things don't matter. That's a person who should have rights just like another person. The idea that they should be different like adjusted up or adjusted down based on None of their features. That's fucking retarded basically like I don't know ben.

58:47.78

mikebledsoe

Ah I agree I agree because and because at the end of the day is you? You are one of the few that actually believe in equal rights and anyone who who you know that's that's how I've I've started making a lot of my conversations lately when someone makes. A statement about something that's political I go Oh well, do you believe in equal rights and then I go tell me about like you know do do you have like a definition for equal rights and they never do and then I provide them with a definition and then.

59:16.80

Max Shank

And.

59:24.50

mikebledsoe

And then usually we can't get very far after that because the definition of equal rights is is so difficult for them to even have a conversation about that because it because it challenges all the ideas it it challenges their ideology because before. They heard equal rights and they that they don't know what equal rights means and then they build a whole ideology that assumes that it's based on equal rights. But then when you go and visit that that um that that thing at the core that everyone thinks they agree on and then you say well let's define it. And now we're we're taking the foundation of what they believe to be the foundation of their ideology and we just fucking take it out from underneath them. It. It gets a little shaky.

01:00:11.20

Max Shank

Well, it's it's like is the game Fair I mean I used to do that and I thought it was pretty smart. It I thought it was like fun and kind of sporting to like ah slowly ah help people realize that everything they believe is fucking stupid and doesn't have any basis in reality. But it's not even fun anymore because it's so Common. It's not even difficult. But um, basically it does come I mean who who decides who decides? That's all who decides all of the other stuff So That's why I say it's It's not about so people conflate.

01:00:37.63

mikebledsoe

It's so easy to be. You know these days. All you got to believe in equal rights and be weirdo.

01:00:49.91

Max Shank

Or as you say there's a collapse distinction between equal opportunity and equal outcome and that's the big mistake because if you're looking to create an equal outcome then by definition the game can't be fair because you're going to be adjusting the rules based on the players.

01:01:05.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, you can't have equal. You can't you can't have equal opportunity and equal outcome. They can't exist at the same time.

01:01:08.77

Max Shank

And that it takes us right back to who decides who if I'm a fucking referee in a boxing match and anytime one of the guys gets punched I stop the fight to give him a little rest. That's not a fair game. But I can make the outcome equal right? So basically comes back to who decides Well now the referee gets to decide the fight who would fucking watch that game. It's It's ridiculous and I I think what helps a lot is just to imagine a smaller.

01:01:28.60

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:01:47.25

Max Shank

Group of people you know who is the None doing the stealing who is the None being stolen from who's the None profiting from that stealing you know you can easily sort these things out but trying to change someone's mind I think that's mostly an energetic loss unless you're really going to. Dedicate yourself to it. The best thing you can do is to free yourself from this idea that talking about that shit even matters I mean Mike and myself were hoping to illuminate this topic so you and us can all be unburdened. So that we can go do. What's really valuable and value as individual. Ah you know, bottled water at Coachella extremely valuable bottled water at Lake Tahoe Not very valuable. But if you focus on value. And values within yourself. That's good and you're going to get a much better return on your energy. But if you like spend time having these like arguments. It. It just takes away that that joy I mean if you find it fun like for sport. Ah you know, go nuts. But you're not going to.

01:02:55.21

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:03:03.18

Max Shank

Make a really significant ah change in people's minds unless you're like okay I'm going to like there are people out there like Russell Brand for example he is like basically making a career out of illuminating what's going on in a pretty humorous way. So like. That's why I'm not going to try to do something like that is like he's already handling that plus is not really a good way for me to generate the most value because after freedom and love the best thing is to be generous really like. If you if you already are kind of wealthy. You already know this if you're not very wealthy yet you might understand this but I guarantee for those of you who are like on your way up to being like really wealthy. You're going to buy yourself a bunch of fucking toys. This is what happened to me at least. You're going to go god damn that is not nearly as fun as taking my friends out to lunch and you'll realize that the the generosity is what fuels you to do more things. So love freedom and then sharing that generosity is where it's at. But. If you get tripped up by all this bullshit about like genitals and colors and sexual orientation like is fucking. Tiresome freedom is about who decides and if it's you it's freedom if it's not then it's some slavery and it can be fractional. And I'm not I don't it's not that I don't appreciate what I have I am super appreciative what I have I am grateful every day and like let's not kid ourselves. There are a lot of things that happen that are just fucking stupid and it's okay to to recognize that.

01:04:51.17

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah I think at the core that is just um or what for me is ah, not having any expectation around say changing somebody's mind. It's like I'll engage in the conversation. But I'm not.

01:05:05.95

Max Shank

Ooh Yeah, now you're talking.

01:05:08.97

mikebledsoe

If I have the expectation there there should They should be thinking like me by the end I'm going to suffer. It's gonna I'm gonna be miserable. It's not going to be fun and the only way I can have fun in these types of conversations is to realize that I'm not going to change their mind and that's okay.

01:05:13.83

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:05:27.70

mikebledsoe

In the best case scenario the way I see it is the best case scenario is I plant a seed that they may wake up in a week and they go something happens and they go shit that thing Mike said that actually kind of makes sense. But.

01:05:40.42

Max Shank

But your attitude your attitude in. That example is exactly freedom. You're not saying I need to change this person's mind you're saying I'm gonna say what I think is true. They are free.

01:05:48.61

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:05:55.80

Max Shank

But I mean that's what freedom of religion really is like you're free to think of whatever you want to think I mean there are a lot of different religions to choose from. So you're free to do that I think um, just respecting people's boundaries is so awesome If it feels good too like you won't feel. It's an extra burden.

01:06:04.19

mikebledsoe

I yeah.

01:06:13.34

Max Shank

To be the enslaver. Also that's what I was saying in the very beginning like I don't want to be your fucking Mama I want to have a conversation with my buddy Mike here hopefully bring into reality some of these nuggets that I work on throughout the week and there are times where a sentence. Or even a couple words are a catalyst for a big change and that's what I think is really cool like what you're talking about.

01:06:38.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so yeah, never having the expectation making it fun remaining curious I think I think the ah the second part is the reason I get in the conversations is because I'm genuinely curious how they're how they've come to the conclusion.

01:06:53.78

Max Shank

Oh.

01:06:58.64

mikebledsoe

They've come to and 1 of the things I noticed is when I start getting really curious about how they got there. They usually ruffles some feathers so it's more like yeah I'm like um, like yeah because they don't know how because they actually don't know how they got there most of the time sometimes they do that conversation gets really enlightening.

01:07:06.10

Max Shank

Oh yeah, it's not comfortable.

01:07:17.75

mikebledsoe

But most people most people have no idea how they got to where they are Bait thought they actually haven't thought it through and so to have the expectation they're going to now think it through with you. That's that's a little much but also just like the curiosity I'm like how do I. For me I go How can I be the best communicator possible I have to know where they're coming from I can't have an effective conversation until I actually understand how they think about this or how they and how they feel about this and if I can really get in there and understand it.

01:07:39.42

Max Shank

The.

01:07:48.91

Max Shank

A.

01:07:55.97

mikebledsoe

Now I might have a chance. But if you are going with the expectation to change your mind your ability to be curious is diminished because you have an expectation of an outcome. So it's yeah yeah.

01:08:07.24

Max Shank

You're trying to ah you're trying to fix the game Basically like you're not really curiously looking for a solution you're trying to force your solution and if you think about where people derive these beliefs from it's easy someone else.

01:08:22.27

mikebledsoe

Totally totally lot easier that way.

01:08:22.84

Max Shank

Gave it to him. That's all someone else gave it to you. It's crazy you you hear the same phrases repeated and if you dissect it down. They have no clue why they're even saying what they're saying logical fallacies. False Equivalency is this false premise invalid thought process like It's no surprise. But I do think curiosity is the best way to approach it and detachment because then you can. That's how you really learn learning is mostly about ah curiosity and if you're really curious about something you'll figure it out. You have Youtube you have the internet. You can you can figure things out and having conversations is a good way to test these ideas out. It's like science is all about the scientists trying to prove each other wrong not about like slapping each other on the back and saying how right they are without any inquiry.

01:09:14.45

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think that's a good point because a lot of these come I think back to one I had when I was in California last month with somebody and we nobody was sober but we were having a conversation and ah. It caused this is ah ah it was a rare occasion of someone who had thought through to a degree to where um I then left the conversation I go how do I better explain this or like like how do I better. Ah. Like these conversations where there's disagreement allows me to I sometimes use the word fortify but I don't think that's as accurate as just create more accuracy in what I'm saying and so it can be received better but also sometimes question like oh is my thinking right. And having someone challenge that is is super beneficial because if you leave me alone in isolation and I just have my thoughts so I like I have a friend who a friend that I have a friend that doesn't go out much and they're extremely judgmental about everything. Not you.

01:10:18.80

Max Shank

Everything makes sense. Everything makes sense then.

01:10:28.40

mikebledsoe

They're extremely but rent like um doesn't Um, they don't go out hardly at all and like they have all these ideas about how people are out in town. Oh this person's like this and this person I'm like I'm like.

01:10:28.64

Max Shank

Don't talk to me about me this way. Dude What do you do this to me for we're on the air homie.

01:10:48.10

mikebledsoe

I'm out in town I'm out there mixing it up like I actually and he says says something like like yeah I don't think that's actually what's motivating them. So like this if you're if you're not in the mix then you're gonna have a hard time note and and if you want if you choose not to be in the mix.

01:10:48.47

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:11:07.18

mikebledsoe

Just choose just be sure not to be judgmental of everyone in there because you don't know what's going on for them.

01:11:10.81

Max Shank

Yo Well I mean that's an easy way to be happy is just don't judge people don't blame don't shame whatever but I think it's not that he is by himself. It's that his. Echo Chamber that he's created with technology because otherwise he's not he's got to get these ideas from somewhere right? So He's just got a really.

01:11:28.66

mikebledsoe

How yeah it is is's definitely so it's It's basically text message shreds and social media and.

01:11:35.35

Max Shank

Right? Which is which is basically like a ah like ah a poisonous feedback loop I would want to say because you are going to be optimized for things that outrage you. So I mean it's True. This is just like ah. The the reality of it. We're wired that way if you see a fucking naked chick on your left and a growling tiger on your right? Unfortunately, even you fucking pervert will look at the growling tiger and try to react to that danger None right.

01:12:09.76

mikebledsoe

Totally and I'm perverted. Yeah and I'm perverted. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:12:12.79

Max Shank

So it's the same thing when you create your own What's that you you are perverted in the nicest way possible I don't mean that as an insult folks. Ah, but so you create your own echo chamber the algorithm feeds you more of what you react to? So sadly. You will see more and more of what you dislike and that's not ah if we're going to talk about statistics which is already ah fucking bullshit mostly what that Mark Twain quote there are lies damn lies and statistics exactly that's right.

01:12:43.49

mikebledsoe

Um, there are lives damn lies and then there are statistics.

01:12:52.10

Max Shank

Ah, if if your sample size is just whatever the software shows you to get the most significant reaction you're gonna be just fucking swimming in a pool of the stuff you Hate. It's. Probably like the worst thing one of the worst thing this bad.

01:13:11.85

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and 2022 we have record breaking rates of depression anxiety all these things.

01:13:21.70

Max Shank

Dude when they first closed things down I made a bet that more people were gonna kill themselves than be killed and you should have seen the gnashing of teeth and the wailing that people through there and it's like look I don't know for sure. But.

01:13:34.30

mikebledsoe

Ah, a.

01:13:39.40

Max Shank

It's usually better to do nothing.. It's usually better to do nothing like the the idea of unintended consequences. That's what I'm saying like no one is smart enough to figure that shit out So when you go like oh who decides the fucking benevolent. Genius He's still going to fuck it up. Because there are too many data points to Consider. So.

01:13:58.97

mikebledsoe

Yeah I saw saw a meme the other day which was ah what we're experiencing right now you know time travel does exist and someone keeps going back to the year Twenty twenty and tweaking things and just making things worse. It's just like. Been a downward. It's been a fucking downward spiral since 2020 and in in society and I do think that it's leading to a ah, an awakening a revolution I don't I don't think it needs to be bloody I hope it's not ah.

01:14:29.41

Max Shank

Awakening. Yeah.

01:14:37.20

mikebledsoe

I Think it's going to be. It's so technologically driven that I think it's I think there's going to be some violent areas will erupt in the world like certain cities in the Us which is kind of. We're already starting to see that. Ah yeah.

01:14:51.44

Max Shank

That had already happened right? We should talk technology next week by the way, let's talk technology next week I I saw this thing ah they had ah um.

01:14:55.31

mikebledsoe

And technology. Yeah.

01:15:05.85

Max Shank

Think it was like 6000 drones flying together. It was the world record for the most. Ah for the largest drone swarm that was being flown around and that kind of stuff when within the last year I would say it.

01:15:13.45

mikebledsoe

Where was this? yeah okay because Bernie Man 2018 they we saw the largest drone show up until that point with a swarm of drones. It was.

01:15:26.48

Max Shank

Um, yeah, wild right? different colors different shapes in 3 d space and these things can move so fast they can move so fast too. Yeah.

01:15:30.82

mikebledsoe

1 or two a m with different lights. There was an orchestra there was an orchestra playing there's an orchestra playing as they're doing it. It's fucking crazy. So 6000 which is more than what I saw mine was probably like a None

01:15:43.32

Max Shank

None plus it might have even been 8 it was that it was this insane thing and it's like the average person has no idea how their refrigerator works and a refrigerator for how useful it is is a very like it's. Very elegant, simple machine a computer a drone electricity these things get so much more and more complex like silicon chips. These different things that we have available to us now is so far beyond what the average person can understand we have like we can. We can blast heat waves for crowd control but they're concerned that maybe it will like melt their retina and melt their eyeballs. It's It's really wild. So I think that's another ah good reason to diversify and divide the power up amongst a larger group of people rather than to just have None person with his finger on the button and that's um, you know. Chain of command is how organizations work and you need someone who's got the final say and it just gets a little bit tricky but.

01:17:02.30

mikebledsoe

It's just I like I mean there's always going to be a hierarchy but can there be smaller groups of people existing inside of hierarchy. That's.

01:17:09.42

Max Shank

I Like the hierarchy of the customer is always right because everything else is really messy. Everything else is really messy like you let people buy what they want to Buy. It's like that saying ah the love of money is the root of all evil or money is the root of all evil I Mean. No, like there are problems like printing money is a real problem I think but but money itself that allows me to trade a candlestick for a loaf of bread without finding a baker who wants a candlestick that is incredible. That's in. Credible How quickly we can deliver value to each other at a profit so there are all these amazing things and you know you don't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. This is a mistake I made in the past is I would just be like fuck it burn it Down. It's bad. You know and that's not really the case either most of the um luxury and benefits in our life are directly related to technology because um, by and large. We don't need a lot of the bullshit that our tax dollars go to So. There's a problem there. But overall you got to be really grateful for the time that we're living in and certainly the place. But.

01:18:41.90

mikebledsoe

No better time or place. No better timer place. Yeah, anything else seems ridiculous. Well let's ah, let's wrap this show up next week. We'll get in technology which.

01:18:45.81

Max Shank

That's the right attitude. Yeah, yeah.

01:18:57.62

mikebledsoe

We'll see if we actually follow through with what we plan on doing the next week this time we'll see yep.

01:18:59.51

Max Shank

All right I got I gotta I think we did this time I got I got a wrap for you ready not an actual wrap. We'll save that for the the the member account I'll do a little freestyle and you can you beat box. Okay so Mike is gonna look.

01:19:12.10

mikebledsoe

No you, you've seen me I might might.

01:19:17.21

Max Shank

Mike is going to learn how to beat box before next week and I will do a wrap for our subscribers. So check it out here's what we have as far as freedoms. We have freedom of our our time we have freedom of location. A lot of people are doing remote work now. They're not tied to a specific location. We have financial freedom. Which basically just means you have enough to buy back your time and ah solve any money related problems. You have the freedom from and of beliefs I think a lot of people are enslaved by beliefs that are a not true and b destructive and then you also have. Physical freedom and this is something that I have a lot of experience with this is what all of my training programs are about is how to get you more physically free within your own body so you get to make the decisions not your sore knee. Not your sore back. Which is basically like a little tyrant who's like fuck you don't climb that tree. So unfortunately most exercise maybe ninety plus percent and maybe 95 plus they waste your energy and make you less athletic. That's that's real shit. Okay.

01:20:29.66

mikebledsoe

Accurate.

01:20:32.76

Max Shank

So freedom of time freedom of location freedom of money freedom to freedom of and from Beliefs and also physical freedom. That's that's what I got for you guys.

01:20:42.51

mikebledsoe

Well said well son and remember get that context before the content understand you know why the constitution says what it says look here's the thing I don't think it's the end. All be all.

01:20:52.10

Max Shank

Ooh Talk dirty.

01:21:00.72

mikebledsoe

But it's the best we got So with that we'll leave it there go to Masank Dot Com Yeah and what's the go to the Bloodso show dot Com Hopefully I'll get that members area up soon when I say I I mean my team will get the members area up soon.

01:21:05.81

Max Shank

Um, who the http://bloodsoho.com

01:21:16.95

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:21:20.10

mikebledsoe

And ah, we'll get it rocking and rolling. Love you guys. Happy Independence day.

01:21:24.66

Max Shank

Love you brother take care Bye everybody.

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00:00.00

mikebledsoe

I Think yeah I did one of those um inner Tube River Lazy River thing never done it before been Whitewater raft and canoeing always in Rivers never did the I'm not can hardly do shit as I let the water take me.

00:00.00

Max Shank

Sounds good to me.

00:08.26

Max Shank

The Lazy river.

00:37.76

Max Shank

Aha.

00:39.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so it took a friend organizing it with a bunch of people who I actually like to spend time with to get me to do nothing on a river and I got out there I got out there and it was. Ah, there was a crowd it was it was like bumper boats for 4 hours in this river it's in Austin yeah south of off and Marcos and when we got there, we're like holy shit's busy and the people working there go oh hasn't gotten busy yet. So.

01:28.44

Max Shank

This is in Austin. Well yeah.

01:58.72

mikebledsoe

Anyways, yeah, that was ah that was my weekend that and barbecue and laughing with friends.

02:05.46

Max Shank

Lazy River is exciting.

02:17.38

Max Shank

I'll tell you what makes me laugh is your story about you having some very close friends give you permission to just float in a River it sounds ah like this joke about um, meditation and yoga. It's like.

02:45.76

mikebledsoe

Ah.

02:51.56

Max Shank

People in None world countries need someone from a None world country to remind them that it's okay to do nothing for 20 minutes it's like you get permission to do nothing for 20 minutes with meditation class or yoga or something like that. It's like.

03:07.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

03:27.88

Max Shank

You just do nothing.

03:28.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we had a friend of her for dinner on Friday night and we talked about that which was you know talking about you know oh I got a meditation practice and I got a visualization practice and I got qi gong and it's like all these practices and talked about just. The value of not you know, getting trapped in the in the practices and the value of just sitting on the side of a lake and staring at the water and doing absolutely nothing and not worried about your posture or anything like that in just that space.

04:36.56

Max Shank

Well, it's like not concerning yourself with the outcome right? Like you don't you don't care if you have produced more widgets or harvested more grains right.

04:44.40

mikebledsoe

You know.

05:04.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's kind of like play.

05:09.82

Max Shank

And that's what we're doing. That's that's like how we judge if if we're good in a lot of relationships because that's where we gain our judgments from is these relationships that we've had so we say it's good to do this. It's bad to do that and. What's interesting is how few people can balance out both and I'm speaking from my own experience as well. It's like None or the other typically and figuring out how to rive the natural cycles which is a wave.

06:11.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

06:26.68

Max Shank

Um, is super valuable. Skill no wind to float in the Lazy River and you know when it's time to climb up the mountain or dig out the gold mine or ah till the field you you go get that shit done with total focus and it. Kind of goes back to what we talked about with the the Jungle cats and the lions and predators of various kinds. It's like they they basically are in rest mode rest and recovery and form bonds with the family or focused. They're not.. They're not hurrying typically right? There's a difference between being hurried and being focused and that's what I try to do sometimes I even get it Sometimes I do it where I'm I'm just focused or relaxed and if I'm relaxed I'm.

07:42.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

08:20.22

Max Shank

I'm letting my focus diffuse into a soft glow like a lantern that you could look directly at it doesn't hurt your eyes or you can focus down like a laser pointer or a laser cutter and you can actually slice through metal with it so being able to. Lazy River or Whitewater Raft. You know that sort of thing or lantern versus laser.

09:10.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, um I think back in my early days of all a not not understanding the value of the space of doing nothing and just playing with no outcome and and how much benefit that gives me on the day. Ah. When I do want to focus the ability to do so is there and I like we were saying about the the lantern and or the laser yesterday is a good example that is I did float on Saturday but yesterday my fiance.

10:02.80

Max Shank

Earth.

10:20.94

mikebledsoe

So I got says I I need a lot I got a lot of work to do and I said you know what I got a lot of work to do too because I've got a summit coming up and you know there's a I've got a long list and I've got a couple podcast episodes to record this week so there's some things I need to prep for but I'm not gonna. You know it's Sunday and I know that I've got I'm working till next Sunday I don't have a day off between now I'm next Sunday and I'm going to take it easy I probably was more productive and enjoyed my work more without worrying about how much I got done that day.

11:33.44

Max Shank

I mean.

11:36.74

mikebledsoe

And yeah, it's I find that especially when I was younger a lot of time spent a lot of times spent chugging coffee and overstimulating myself for the purpose of thinking that was going to help me do something better.

11:56.46

Max Shank

Totally power through baby well and you'll be more good as judged by all of your peers. It's all the program that's been installed and if everything is sacrificed for the outcome.

12:21.24

mikebledsoe

Right here.

12:33.34

Max Shank

The extreme example is someone who's going to blow themselves up because the programming was so effective That's crazy so being able to draw boundaries is really what it comes back to is can you draw a boundary for space for yourself.

12:44.32

mikebledsoe

No no.

13:12.84

Max Shank

And I actually remember a conversation I had with a member at my gym once and I watched this person transform over a period of time I learned about how their work and their life goes and things like that and they were you know real high performer Worker. And her her biggest challenge was to set clear boundaries for herself to do things that were for her I mean she was give give give essentially I'll I'll get all the work done and then just pile some more on and then I'll get that done too and.

14:03.52

mikebledsoe

A.

14:29.96

Max Shank

Always the last priority and I remember she was asking if she could drop the the personal training from her membership and just do the classes and I said look ah personal train do classes. Whatever you want to do but make an appointment for yourself every week. That you never miss Basically like you have to keep that as a priority and that's one of the reasons that personal training works is because the person is heavily invested to show up at the given time and once that billing and scheduling is all dialed in.

15:11.62

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

15:44.54

Max Shank

It makes it very easy to show up every time but if it's ah, a group membership and no one really is going to follow up if you aren't coming in there. It's a totally different Thing. So I think it comes back to drawing boundaries. Between those times where you are allowed or allowing yourself to do nothing.

16:27.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, my None task on Monday mornings is to schedule out my rejuvenating activities for the rest of the week when am I going to work out when am I going to go song a cold plunge when am I going to hang out with my friends.

16:46.86

Max Shank

He.

17:06.56

mikebledsoe

All that scheduled out None thing Monday morning before I even look at what I need to do for work that week and yeah it for me it. It requires that level of of commitment to self in order to follow through on that stuff.

17:13.81

Max Shank

Oh.

17:35.76

Max Shank

Oh draw boundaries. That's why relationships don't work right? Well, that's why relationships go South is ah, people didn't draw boundaries quick enough. Basically.

17:41.36

mikebledsoe

But most people never do it. Yeah, didn't yeah, they just don't even consider the boundaries in the None place. Yeah, you know? Yeah, they're not even aware usually like the the boundary most people.

18:12.96

Max Shank

Right.

18:20.32

mikebledsoe

Discovered that the boundary even exists when they get mad like ah, a boundary getting crossed it it triggers anger and then a lot of times the the right? the right person to be angry at yourself. But.

18:41.28

Max Shank

Um, it's internalized like right.

18:55.16

mikebledsoe

It's projected out and blamed on someone else when you know my big thing is anytime I get angry with somebody else I check in with myself to say you know what boundary was crossed and did I communicate that boundary and most of the time I didn't and then I got.

19:13.96

Max Shank

Yeah, yeah.

19:32.70

mikebledsoe

Check out in myself. But then I go have the conversation about where my boundary is with that person and you know it's always things usually clear up after that.

19:38.68

Max Shank

Um, yeah, yeah, um I would I would agree I think people um often don't check their boundaries. Quick enough and hold true to those lines and it makes it very difficult. Ah, and it's kind of an ah accumulating Burden I think even and you don't really know how much you.

20:16.74

mikebledsoe

Now just.

20:40.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

20:51.56

Max Shank

Like resentment and blame you can start hanging onto just just because 100% your responsibility you should have drawn boundaries. That's why anytime like what you're saying oh I'm mad at this person. It's like well that's silly because. Whatever happened happened and that was possible from from back when you started that relationship right? That's that's fine. Whatever just ah, try to learn from it and this back to the thing about being focused versus hurried or.

21:32.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:05.72

Max Shank

Whatever there's a big difference between just putting all your focus onto something and being emotionally charged up about it.

22:17.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so we want to talk about today. Yeah I think we've done boundaries before.

22:25.10

Max Shank

What do I want to talk about I want to talk about the well. Okay, last week we talked about stuff basically which was cool. We talked about stuff. Making stuff.

23:01.80

mikebledsoe

I Only remember what what stuff will we talk about.

23:10.30

Max Shank

Um, we were talking about how come on you we were yeah but you're supposed to treasure mine forever. Whatever I say I'm sure you have like a separate diary just for the conversations that you and I have.

23:24.26

mikebledsoe

I've had a lot of thoughts between last week and right now and it gets cluttered. Oh.

23:50.24

Max Shank

I mean I know like everyone can tell that you get really excited throwing a word the round throwing around the word fiance now. So I know you got a lot on your mind. You're you're going to be this new person. You're going to be like oh well, you know now that I'm married.

24:08.94

mikebledsoe

M.

24:24.28

Max Shank

And it's going to be just like last week when you said well now that I'm you know a little older a little wiser I think it's just going to play in to that that guru status that you've developed because now you'll be older wiser married get some kids going and then your avatar. Will be complete so you can you know really have some authority on these messages for the men who listen to us significantly long that we shouldn't even see the neck on that tank top. It should go down at least ten more inches gandalph style.

25:12.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah I need ah I need a longer beard too.

25:30.18

mikebledsoe

Now see what Ashley says about that.

25:39.66

Max Shank

No, we were talking about making stuff though last week like the the value of making stuff physically with your hands and there's and there's a lot of truth that is discovered when you do that because there and it kind of ties so I would tie back.

25:49.84

mikebledsoe

Oh oh yeah.

26:04.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

26:18.26

Max Shank

We talked about last week into the so that was the matter or the stuff and maybe we could go into the pattern of things so we could talk a little bit about vibration and rhythm and frequency if if you wanted to It's kind of a. Challenging topic to really follow, but it's um, the reason it reminded me is father's day. It was father's day and you know the word father comes from the word ah pattern and the word mother comes from the word matter. So there's.

27:10.80

mikebledsoe

Um.

27:28.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, why say we go with that. Let's go with that. Yeah I'm I'm down to tackle the pattern conversation that sounds good.

27:31.68

Max Shank

Matter and pattern so it seems like a nice logical transition.

27:53.38

Max Shank

Yeah, so let's say we try to break it down into ah patterns of human beings which is kind of like programs of human beings. So we have that which is I would say that's the most practical level. Is the patterns of humans. Ah we also have ah Dna is a pattern and another synonym for pattern is code.

28:57.40

mikebledsoe

I think.

28:59.20

Max Shank

So you have Dna you got computer programming you got programming human beings. You got the different ah frequencies and wavelengths of things as it relates to the materials we make.

29:28.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah I think it's gonna be a fun topic Actually the more the more you're talking I'm thinking and yeah, this will be a full.

29:43.46

Max Shank

Um, you could argue that matter and Pattern are the only topics that we could discuss.

29:56.40

mikebledsoe

I think so yeah, everything falls under those 2 categories. That's right.

30:06.70

Max Shank

Stuff and not stuff like okay here here's ah, an interesting example right? We have all these forces which is the way we describe. Okay, all right? No, we're Okay, we're we're kicked.

30:23.88

mikebledsoe

Hang on hang on. Let's kick the show off and then get into it. Yeah I think I think we're set are we clicked I wrote the date on the top of the page. Um.

30:41.42

Max Shank

Okay, you took some notes.

30:55.12

Max Shank

I have this I have this fantasy in my mind when I see you looking down and writing something that it's like oh these like excellent notes are like a mind map or something like that or maybe a checklist of things to cover. Really you've just written your name in the date in the corner.

31:23.40

mikebledsoe

Um, no half the time It's the date I'm practicing spelling my name. Yeah.

31:38.76

Max Shank

Okay, so we'll talk about Pattern for in honor of father's day.

31:47.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I said I say ah why don't you go ahead and do the intro and then we'll talk about the the membership site and then you can go into your explanation for. Father and pattern How about that and then we'll just go from there.

32:31.50

Max Shank

And the membership site just so I'm clear is in the beginning of the show I put my camera to expose the nipples and then when the public show starts I tilt it back up. So the nipples are ah not visible is that.

33:03.86

mikebledsoe

You got it. You got it? yeah.

33:09.94

Max Shank

Is that right? I'm a simple man I like a simple plan. My nips are only free to me but not to you.

33:27.22

mikebledsoe

All right? You want to kick off the intro today. All right? yep.

33:32.94

Max Shank

Yeah let's do it already. Ah None 2 None welcome back to Monday mornings with max and Mike Today we're gonna. Follow up what we talked about last week last week was a heck of a fun conversation about stuff matter substance working with your hands a little bit about manufacturing. It was a crazy excellent conversation. Go check it out Today. We're gonna talk about the other side. The pattern. I think it's very cool that the words mother and father are actually derived from matter and pattern and so that's what we're gonna talk about today. We're gonna talk about how pattern is present in your Dna your cell phone behaviors of human beings. And much much more and welcome welcome again. Mike thanks for sitting down with me I'm very excited and a little intimidated to tackle this topic today.

35:20.58

mikebledsoe

Well said.

35:41.48

mikebledsoe

Ah sorry I can make a bunch of bullshit up. Ah so for for those of you who who love this show.

35:51.98

Max Shank

I Don't like it for the record folks I don't like when he does that.

36:04.22

mikebledsoe

Ah, but for um, all we we decide to open up the membership site and we're gonna be posting exclusive content. There's a conversation that always happens previous to this show today's show we had 16 minutes and 55 seconds of content. Of us figuring out what we were going to talk about. But of course we can't help ourselves from delivering gold at every moment. So if you yep, None nipples on the preshow. So do that one.

36:53.52

Max Shank

There were also 2 nipples on the pre-show in case that matters I don't know why why should people do that one like what are they going to get out of that. Are they going to get some more interaction with us.

37:17.16

mikebledsoe

1 maybe it's exclusive content for now we're going to see where it goes. Yeah well I had a guy.

37:25.32

Max Shank

Just exclusive content I Think yeah, we should see what people want though also because I could see ah I could see something really cool forming out of this So I just want to serve our our customers The best way I can.

37:54.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah I had a guy ah on Instagram Atx window tent and clean. He sent me message it and said he would donate for more podcasts with me and you so um, what I want to do is we're gonna set it up. It's not set up. As of today. But if you're listening to this what I'm Goingnna do is I'm going to create a link on the http://bloodsoio.com. So if you go to there. There's going to be a place where you can sign up for this and it's gonna be pay what you want so it's donation based anywhere between a dollar and $5000000 ah.

38:58.12

Max Shank

Love it.

39:09.36

mikebledsoe

And we'll set up a we'll make it a monthly subscription and as long as you're.

39:13.16

Max Shank

Are we sponsored by Austin Tint and window by the way atx tint and window.

39:23.34

mikebledsoe

You know we may mention him more depending on the size of his donation or her donation I'm not sure if it's a man or woman. So I the this.

39:49.66

Max Shank

So wait. So wait, you're telling me they can pay what they want and we don't even really know what they're going to get yet. We know they're going to get exclusive content. There's no question. You're going to hear words there that you won't hear anywhere else but there might be even more than that is what you're saying So it's like.

40:14.90

mikebledsoe

Yep.

40:24.34

mikebledsoe

Well well part of this yeah part part part of this. Well the thing is the people that are going to donate to the show. They're going to contribute funds to make sure that this show keeps happening because you know what it takes a couple hours out of max and I week

40:29.48

Max Shank

Ah, bonus price Mystery box That's incredible.

41:02.62

mikebledsoe

And you know we got to keep the lights on and all that. But ah yeah, so the people.

41:09.12

Max Shank

Well you vote with your dollars too I'm I'm a big fan of that. So if you like really want more of something then you know that's that's the only way you can really influence it I say that in your whole life too. You know, buy what you like.

41:36.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, spend money where you want things to improve So Ah so for one if you enjoy the show and you just want to Contribute. It's a great way to do it. You're also going to get exclusive content And. Ah, you are going to have the loudest voice out of everyone who has an opinion about what we should be doing So We're more likely to listen to those who are donating the most amount of money So That's all that's all on that So we'll get that set up I've got a summit coming up this weekend. So.

42:35.80

Max Shank

Very exciting.

42:48.40

mikebledsoe

My team is completely distracted with things that they think is important so that I can do the show. But.

42:59.82

Max Shank

It must have taken a lot of ah instruction to organize all those people together for a summit. He segwayed perfectly because someone has to orchestrate.

43:15.70

mikebledsoe

Instruction. Um, yeah, yeah, there's a ah lot of direction.

43:37.32

Max Shank

Someone has to orchestrate the code for getting that job done and if you think about the Pattern. So the bread. The the dough is the stuff. The recipe is the pattern. The sperm is the pattern. The egg is the stuff. Matter mother Pattern father. So It sounds like you are the father of this event because you have determined the structure of its organization.

44:36.70

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we create this structure and then I brought in a lot of speakers who are going to contribute so they they bring a lot of stuff and I organize it and I time it I announce it I create a container.

44:55.22

Max Shank

Right.

45:10.16

Max Shank

Oh.

45:13.70

mikebledsoe

So it's a container of time so it starts at a certain time ends at a certain time we we do have a frequency of of time in between so this speaker starts here ends there. There's also a consideration for what type of content is gonna presented it. Be presented in what order to make the most sense so that we can stare step people through a series of understanding. So while I also have no idea what the speakers are going to say like I I know their topic but I and I know they're good because almost all of them been in the industry for twenty plus years

46:09.48

Max Shank

Right? right.

46:27.00

mikebledsoe

So I know it's going to be good I Just don't know what exactly that content's going to be and that's actually a lot of fun for me.

46:40.28

Max Shank

And that's the that's the practical side of patterns. That's the most practical side of patterns because most of our interactions are with people or or with stuff but usually with people I would say unless you're just specifically with materials and.

47:04.92

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah art.

47:18.36

Max Shank

That's what teaching is it's basically ah, it's like the least substantial thing there is is pure instruction because there's no stuff being transferred. There's only code. Being transferred.. There's only the pattern that is being sent to another person.

48:07.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

48:13.64

Max Shank

But that's what drives people and the bible is a program. The constitution is a program these are patterns. These are these have their own ah force and vibration to them right.

48:44.12

mikebledsoe

What I'm glad you bring that up.

48:49.16

Max Shank

When it comes to the way that humans interact and behave and you take that plus it's like that plus Dna those are the None intersecting patterns that sort of weave together and you could I don't know I think the nature versus nurture argument is the wrong. Perspective I think it's nature and nurture and it's all the same kind of.

49:33.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and everything you were just saying right there and we look at the patterns that have had the longest staying power. So like we talk about the bible or christianity. It's a pattern that has had really long staying power a lot of other religions have fallen by the wayside.

50:07.36

Max Shank

Relative to other human religions. It's had incredible staying power.

50:11.88

mikebledsoe

And yeah, yeah, now the the patterns you talk about nature versus nurture. But what I one of the things that I've found to be ah, really powerful is studying the patterns of nature and then either mimicking that.

50:37.32

Max Shank

Then oh.

50:50.84

mikebledsoe

Or if we're going to be working with nature which we always are is how do we harness that if you try to create a structure that is not in alignment with nature. You're going to be. You're going to lose that battle and so there is and I think it creates some.

50:55.86

Max Shank

I will know.

51:30.56

mikebledsoe

Difficulty so one of the ways I like to think about patterns and frequencies and I think about frequencies specifically and I like to start at the macro and work our way down to the micro and then when we do that I think people really start getting an understanding of how the universe works. And this was pointed out to me by a guy named Daniel Schmackenberger he explained it to me and I go huh that act that that's in person in person. He explained it to me.

52:18.34

Max Shank

Um, did he explain it to you in person. What an interesting character that guy is I've listened to a few of his things and he's a very interesting cat. But.

52:39.16

mikebledsoe

He used to live down the street from us and I probably had a sit down with him every three months when I was living in Socal and we jammed and the guy. The guy is one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. Um, but ah, we were talking about seasons and cycles and.

52:54.60

Max Shank

Um, about that. Yeah.

53:18.70

mikebledsoe

And lunar and solar and we look at the yeah we look at the pattern and we look at the patterns of nature. We look at patterns of the universe and the the None one the one that's easiest for us to all be aware of is probably the lunar cycle. So.

53:24.66

Max Shank

There's a pattern.

53:53.90

mikebledsoe

Or the 4 seasons. Um, these are both cycles the 4 seasons all happen in an annual basis. It gets hot it cools off. It gets really cold. It gets warm. It gets hot. It does that ah to.

54:16.72

Max Shank

So like the days and the moons. Ah, and the years are easy are like easy to notice. Outwardly.

54:35.80

mikebledsoe

They're easy to notice and so you have the lunar There's you know about thirteen lunar cycles in a year. Um some may ah some do argue that the fact that we have twelve months in the year and we have 13 lunar cycles is actually fighting nature a little bit. And we might be better off if we had a little bit different system. But this thing is pretty ingrained the gregorian calendar. Ah we have the lunar cycles which are which are monthly and then inside of that they're really the the weekly cycle Monday through Sunday is.

55:21.94

Max Shank

Oh man. Yeah, we.

55:46.18

mikebledsoe

I don't really see anything demonstrated in nature that seems like to me a very human construct to divide up those 28 ish days ah between lunar cycles and we want to like look all the way back through history. Yeah into weeks.

56:10.26

Max Shank

into into weeks um I don't know what the origin of the week is actually is kind of an interesting question.

56:21.98

mikebledsoe

And days are obvious the the daily cycle the sun comes up the sun goes down and I have no idea I mean somebody Dm me let me know and the.

56:52.54

Max Shank

We're just we're gonna trust your dude. Okay, this is why you are not in charge of the fucking research department I'll wait for the None direct message on Instagram to give me the answer and then I just get a fucking go with that you you lunatic speaking of moon.

57:09.48

mikebledsoe

Ah, no I need a starting point I need a.

57:23.70

Max Shank

That's where the luna lunatic comes from fucking lunatic. Yeah, so just Dm your effect that's like slightly less reliable than Wikipedia.

57:26.78

mikebledsoe

I. Well no I want to I want to I want the people in the audience to participate in the process of us finding information. They said it to me I'll I'll still verify it I'll look it up but I I'm gonna let someone initiate. So um.

57:59.74

Max Shank

Ah I'm just kidding I Love Wikipedia. Okay, so we have ah we have years we have moons so we have solar year we have moons. Let's forget about weeks. Let's go straight to heartbeats from there so we got year.

58:13.68

mikebledsoe

So about.

58:34.60

mikebledsoe

That's ah, that's where I was. That's where we're going is That's exactly what I've written down. Actually we're on the same page but it gets down to you get up and go to sleep. You have a Circadian rhythm you have a hormonal.

58:38.74

Max Shank

Moon day heartbeat.

58:58.98

mikebledsoe

Ah, rhythm throughout the day based on the sun coming up sun going down moon coming out all these things and then yeah it it comes down to heartbeat brain waves brainwave frequencies and so yeah.

59:22.96

Max Shank

Which is a lot faster because hertz is the way we measure frequency and hurts is calculated in cycles per second. So if something is it and I think we have the ability to hear things between oh gosh. Ah. 1 d-ish hurts to None something around there so we have a pretty big. There's ah, there's a great thing um to visualize the spectrum of frequencies but just remember that hurts is in cycles per second so your heart. Ah.

01:00:11.98

mikebledsoe

I should know that.

01:00:40.80

Max Shank

It beats once every second so cycles per second would be like 1 basically right.

01:00:42.30

mikebledsoe

Once a second. Yeah.

01:00:56.26

mikebledsoe

You know? Yeah, so we have all these different frequencies and None of the one of the ways reasons I like to think about frequencies in this way is because it allows. Me to see more clearly how I'm connected to the entire universe it. It reduces the amount of separation that I'm perceiving and whole with it. Yeah and I'm tuned into it once I learned this I I got a lot better about going down with the sun and coming up with the sun and.

01:01:33.92

Max Shank

You feel more whole with it. You feel more part of it.

01:01:55.64

Max Shank

Oh.

01:02:01.20

mikebledsoe

My health improved and all sorts of things. So I like that the idea of talking about the micro macro to the micro and the pattern is always present. There's nothing that we can observe that doesn't have it and it's not participating.

01:02:33.60

Max Shank

Yeah, there's a great little chart if you type in em spectrum into Google images you can find ah a really nice little visual aid I think it's really important.

01:03:02.92

mikebledsoe

Em spectrum.

01:03:06.66

Max Shank

Yeah, just type in em spectrum into Google and hit images and that'll show you ah you know on the 1 hand when you have ah something like the visible light spectrum and then.

01:03:43.36

mikebledsoe

E.

01:03:43.60

Max Shank

You go beyond above it. You have ultraviolet spectrum and then you have infrared so below what we can see and there's all this stuff happening and the way to tie it all together and simplify it in my mind is to say that vision.

01:04:00.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:04:21.86

Max Shank

Doesn't show you everything. That's there. It just shows you? What's important and there but there's so much stuff vibrating everywhere and everything's got its own um frequency to it and that goes all the way down like. Most watches are set with a quartz crystal actually because it vibrates at a certain frequency and I think ah the way an atomic clock works is with something like caesium.

01:05:19.48

mikebledsoe

Everyone's cell phone has a quartz crystal in it.

01:05:40.34

Max Shank

And so you think here's this this like bunch of stuff like a crystal but it's got this frequency that it's emitting from it all the time.

01:06:01.68

mikebledsoe

Man I spent hours talking about crystals on Saturday night with some friends. The I think we might open up a crystal shop here in Austin the next the next business venture. You think it'll be good I think we could we could pull.

01:06:27.60

Max Shank

I Think if you focus on it. It will be I think if you focus on it. It'll be awesome and if you ah, don't try that hard then it depends on who you partnered with.

01:06:46.98

mikebledsoe

All right? Yeah I'm I'm looking for solid partners for crystal shop here in Austin Texas.

01:06:55.54

Max Shank

I Like talking about crystals too but not with people who only know the esoteric side of Crystals I need someone to like bridge the gap between the physics and the more esoteric kind of philosophical Astro astrology because.

01:07:14.66

mikebledsoe

Boy Yeah I have a friend.

01:07:35.28

Max Shank

I'm I'm hip with it and I I like to know what's really going on in there.

01:07:44.98

mikebledsoe

Well, both sides are really nice I What are my buddies he used to be in the crystal business and and he can talk about how the crystal in your phone works and tie that into more of the esoteric as well and so he can He spans the whole thing I'm gonna have him on the show.

01:07:54.82

Max Shank

You gotta work them together.

01:08:12.20

Max Shank

Right.

01:08:21.88

mikebledsoe

Here in the next month or so and I don't know if we'll talk about Crystals because he's an expert in other things as well. But maybe we'll cover that for everybody.

01:08:28.34

Max Shank

Yeah I have a friend actually who I have a friend who his whole ah career. Basically right now is studying crystals so his his equipment that he has available in the lab is so tight that he can actually fire a neutron beam. To see really really tiny crystals of proteins to make for pharmaceuticals so his whole job is like trial and error. Let's let's throw some fucking heat and some of this over here and he's basically in a laboratory and then firing a little beam. Neutrons to look at the shapes to see if they're going to be able to bind or unite ah with other molecules in the body. It's it's really fascinating and you look at how all of those different interactions are things usually have a charge like positive or negative. And they often will also have a ah conforming shape and you can take that all the way down. It's it's easy to get lost with how many branches that you can take this down in terms of the energy transformation because that's really all we're doing is we're taking. Energy and we're transforming it into some other type of energy. That's really what family is about. You're taking energy from outside and then you're adding it to the family fungus is doing that we're doing that Orca are doing that. Basically you're trying to assimilate more energy and grow. Size of your empire ants fungus us and yeah and ah different creatures do it in different ways like ah in the life of a mycelium fungus that's slowly branching out a myceoleal network.

01:11:46.14

mikebledsoe

Simulate organize create a structure with that energy divert that energy.

01:12:18.34

Max Shank

They don't really budget time for ah like deviance and pleasure and vacations and things like that and we we do. We have all this crazy stuff Beyond grow the family but that's the that's the prevailing pattern because.

01:12:43.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:12:56.64

Max Shank

If you don't have that then that branch of the family tree cuts itself. So you you almost have it's why religions kind of follow the same thing Thou Shalt have no other gods before me because this has to be the foundation of your pattern of your programming.

01:13:02.14

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:13:33.34

Max Shank

Right? You can't like just pick and choose oh hey like you know you hindus. That's pretty cool but I like steak So I'm not going to go with this crew and you Christians are great but I want to eat pigs or you know whatever they don't like that doesn't it doesn't have the same um unity. It doesn't have the same.

01:13:55.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:14:11.50

Max Shank

Ah, resonance and harmony of the the the vibration there isn't it interesting that they also sing every Sunday that that's a big thing is singing together. We got to get back to that though.

01:14:18.66

mikebledsoe

Yeah I. Yeah, yeah I notice having interacted heavily with the new age spiritual Community and I I've never really considered myself new age. But the. The new age Spiritual Community is interesting because it does feel like a lot of the people in that community are adopting they're picking and choosing. They're cherry picking things from different religions and then creating their own little thing but it really does lack a foundation that I.

01:15:30.88

Max Shank

E.

01:15:46.62

mikebledsoe

I Think that the that community it feels very wishy-washy feels very too flowy to there's there's some people in in this community that are very popular and when they post things and when they talk about things. Sounds very flowery. But I don't know exactly what they mean and I don't think they know what they mean either.

01:16:36.34

Max Shank

Oh you mean like a flower like that thing that is designed to attract I'm not surprised.. The only thing we can possibly get is people being little flowers. There's no way. We you? you can't rise above the noise unless you make yourself into a pretty flower like you know you could tell people the truth is like look um there there are a lot of tools out there that we can use and you don't really know what the.

01:17:13.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:17:46.26

Max Shank

Potential benefit and potential cost of those tools is you? You don't really know how those tools can be used. You don't know the pattern or the code of how to put those tools to the best use and that's also what coaching and instruction is it's how to get the most out of those tools. So. The recipe for bread the recipe for making ah semiconductors and computers and automobiles. Ah what is that without the instructions. It's just stuff without the the instructions to put it all together. It's just stuff. Dna same thing. It actually determines where the protein is going to go where the collagen is going to get laid down. It's insane ah to try to like differentiate those 2 things because.

01:19:38.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:19:43.90

Max Shank

What is the stuff without the the movement of the stuff. What I mean there's there's nothing. That's perfectly still is kind of ah a weird ah trip to think about and I think a lot of that um can be described by like. Atomic structures as we understand it like the density of the packing of the atomic nuclei and the lattice work that they take ah see this. We're like way too far outside of my understanding but basically things are packed much tighter. When they are more denser so you have a ah gal you have ah an air compressor. You can compress the air and actually shove more into that same space and then as you get harder and harder Materials. There's less and less give that you can shove into that same space.

01:21:03.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:21:35.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:21:40.20

Max Shank

And that's also why in order to have a faraday cage which doesn't let ah electromagnetic radiation in it has to be made out of metal. It can't be made out of wood because it can get through because wood is less dent like how crazy is that when you think about it because the wood is still solid.

01:22:17.42

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:22:18.96

Max Shank

But the reason you need it to be metal is because of the closeness of the lattice of those atoms. So. There's actually less space than usual and then with air with wood with metal. Tungsten Plutonium All that other stuff it's because it's more and more tightly packed and that's that's also um, how nature patterns itself pretty much if you look at a tree and a set of lungs. It starts out with a big pipe. And then it splits and splits and splits into little branches and ah leaves and branches branches little capillaries alviolles and things like that. So you're trying to maximize the ah surface area right? It's like giving yourself more.

01:23:59.14

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:24:07.72

Max Shank

Ah, relationships with the environment.

01:24:10.60

mikebledsoe

But that Pattern works best with the planet Earth for the exchange of of air of Oxygen carbon dioxide. Whatever it is whatever the exchange of these molecules are and when you're talking about Oxygen Carbon dioxide. It's no. A mystery why the lungs in the tree look very similar. It's just a shit works. Um, yeah.

01:24:57.56

Max Shank

Gas exchange happening all the time and that's a pattern that's a relationship between those 2 inhale exhale without algae and trees. We'd all be dead.

01:25:22.40

mikebledsoe

Very true. The I want to break this down and into and a 4 different quadrants. So I'm I'm a big fan I've I've talked about before of Ken Wilbur's a call map a qal so if you Google a cap a q a l space. Map then you'll get an idea of what I'm you'll get a visual of what I'm talking about here and so it's ah the upper quadrant is the individual the lower half of the quadrant is the collective. The left side of the quadrant is the interior or the inside and the. Right side of the quadrant is the exterior. So if we go to the upper left hand quadrant what we're looking at is the interior self. So if we want to look at I really like talking about this map because it allows us to break down a topic as big as something like patterns into something that. We can look at and step by step and talk about it so to really simplify what's happening in the upper left hand quadrant which is the interior of self I really think about that as like thoughts and feelings your thoughts and your feelings. It's your internal world and there's patterns there. And so we have emotional patterns we have thought patterns and we have psychoemotional patterns where the thoughts and emotions have a pattern between the 2 of them. You have an emotion then there's a pattern of making meaning of what that emotion means and then. That can cycle cycle cycle so we have psycho emotional patterns that we need to be aware of and the certain certain things trigger those different patterns and it could be something like father's day something could get someone thinks about father's day and. The pattern may be celebration feeling really good make it mean call your dad that day. So I like to think about no.

01:29:30.90

Max Shank

I'm sure that's everybody's pattern.

01:29:45.30

Max Shank

Ah.

01:29:45.32

mikebledsoe

But but the ah but I like look what do what? you think about the Psycho emotional patterns. What have you noticed and learned about that.

01:30:06.18

Max Shank

So I think of it in a pretty simple way as people repeat what gives them a predictable result. Not even what gives them? ah an excellent result just a predictable one. So that's basically what a pattern is is.

01:30:31.70

mikebledsoe

M.

01:30:43.56

mikebledsoe

And people people do seek predictability. There's ah, there's a lot of people. They do ah a lot of.

01:30:43.86

Max Shank

There's predictability to it. So it's why people prefer people prefer the ah ah familiar pain to the unknown.

01:31:07.52

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've worked with a lot of people who they they came to me and there's something in their life. That's not working I mean that's that's really the the job of a coach is we work with people who they want something to be different in their life and. They want to change it and usually it's the the individual is trying to change something externally in order to create a different internal experience and a lot of times what we got to do.

01:32:12.00

Max Shank

Which can work.

01:32:18.00

mikebledsoe

Which can work but which does work which we can get into because we can talk about Environmental patterns. Ah.

01:32:25.22

Max Shank

Because a pattern is a relationship with your environment. There's a relationship within yourself which is kind of what you're talking about. But you're never in a vacuum. You know you take someone out of their existing environment and you put them into a different one and suddenly all their aches and pains go away.

01:32:43.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:33:03.12

Max Shank

Worked with this guy joint pain everywhere everything hurts ah instead of being in Boston at home. He goes down to Florida on vacation none of his shit hurts and it's like well why do you think that is like you have to explore what it is about that environment that you're that you have unresolved.

01:33:39.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:33:41.46

Max Shank

That your body is like essentially crying out because your ah pain is basically your brain saying ah not like this. That's all just not like this.. It's not ah, it's not. Ah, like bad.. It's not Shameful. It's not good. Sometimes it's incorrect where where you feel it isn't necessarily where the resolution is going to be Found. It's just a nonspecific signal that says not like this if you do it a different way. Maybe so.

01:34:36.18

mikebledsoe

Right? just.

01:34:52.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, so people at that spot on it pain is just ah, always talk about pain as a teacher. It's it's trying to teach you something and most people just sit in the pain because it is ah familiar.

01:34:54.20

Max Shank

But not like this.

01:35:24.30

Max Shank

Um, familiar I.

01:35:31.88

mikebledsoe

And people feel safe even in when it's painful. They'd rather feel if they feel safe in pain. They'll take that over you know the uncertainty and freedom and the a lot of times people want. You know who have been focused on changing something in their external environment even that they're not even really willing to make too many external environment changes because of what's happening internally of what that might mean for them and so yeah chicken of the egg. Yeah, and so if.

01:36:21.98

Max Shank

Um, that's a chicken or the egg type of situation too. Um.

01:36:37.40

mikebledsoe

If you've been beating your head on 1 way of making change and changing a pattern you may want to look at something else. So if you've been trying to change something environmentally or you've been trying to change your physical body and it's not working. Maybe you need to look at the internal body or you need to look at your relationships with people instead of just the environment.

01:37:11.94

Max Shank

And some people thrive on incremental change and some people thrive on radical change and is different for everybody you know, ah a lot of a lot of times where you make a leap forward in what you might call progress.

01:37:14.92

mikebledsoe

And so.

01:37:32.18

mikebledsoe

That's that's very true.

01:37:48.16

Max Shank

Because you took a giant leap toward a different environment or a different ah day-to-day Pattern It can be incremental or it can be radical.

01:38:02.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, so a lot of times these these internal patterns if we can shift those there might be ah emotions that we're making mean something with our thoughts and then that keeps us from maybe moving from Boston to Florida.

01:38:39.32

Max Shank

Right.

01:38:41.28

mikebledsoe

You know I I remember coaching one woman at this point and she she did not want to be working her job. She's like I do not like my job I want to get out of my industry I don't want to do this at all. But I'm not good at anything else. That was the story that she had. She had this internal story of yeah, that's the pattern. Yeah, and so it once we got to a point where she and she made really good money is is.

01:39:20.92

Max Shank

That's the pattern. That's some software. Yeah.

01:39:40.84

Max Shank

M.

01:39:47.70

mikebledsoe

We had to really sit down and and break down is it worth the you know is it worth possibly a lifestyle change downward which by the way is one of the people just don't do it once they hit a certain level of lifestyle coming back down that is incredibly difficult. Um, if you're used to living off $200000 a year and now I'm gonna ask you to live off $100000 a year people I I would I would have a very hard time with it people freak out wouldn't they just don't know how to do it. It's pretty much stuck there. But um.

01:40:54.24

Max Shank

Tell you? what though they would figure it out if they had to and I can I can guarantee that you know what I love speaking of patterns. So a prison that's that's a series of matter and patterns woven together to keep people inside.

01:41:03.80

mikebledsoe

They would fake Always do always do.

01:41:29.12

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

01:41:33.60

Max Shank

Designed by allegedly pretty smart people and guys still escape. So prison is full of the criminals who got caught so arguably the dumbest of the criminals because a smart criminal is still outside of the Jail That's what prisons do.

01:42:01.84

mikebledsoe

No.

01:42:08.62

Max Shank

They put all the dumb criminals in Jail to leave the really clever ones out of Jail so they can have the easier pick of what's left. But if you take the smart architects who are putting together this box those really smart guys. But the level of desire to be free of that Burden seems to supersede all of that technical Expertise All of the guards all of the stuff I mean it's what doesn't happen a lot but it still happens.

01:43:05.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, there's I mean if if you just study what's happening in the prisons right now not even escape but Gangs drugs. There's basically there's nothing but illegal activity happening in the prisons and the you know.

01:43:25.50

Max Shank

Gangs gangs.

01:43:40.20

Max Shank

Yeah, how could you stop it.

01:43:43.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, the stated the stated intent is for them to not be to not experience that. But yeah, you're basically just concentrating a bunch of people who got caught and ah will continue to do things.

01:44:08.26

Max Shank

Well I mean the prison system is a bad pattern. Um, because it it maximizes for ah, shame and isolation but not actually for compensation to the fucking victim of the crime.. The only thing we should care About. It does nothing for.. Ah.

01:44:50.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, I mean if if somebody violates.

01:44:56.80

Max Shank

It's like it's like it's like okay so a crime was Committed. What are we going to do are we going to help out the victim. No What we're going to do is we're going to take a little bit of everybody's money including the victims and then we're going to take the bad man to a bad place so he can. Get really isolated and angry at everybody and probably link up with a murderous gang. Ah, That's what we're going to do I'm waiting for the punchline but there it's there's nothing. There. Yeah.

01:45:55.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's a very poor social pattern. So so I mean that's that's the that's the inside of you know of culture right? culture is the inside How we how we pattern our so our society. So.

01:46:24.60

Max Shank

Right? Well how you discipline how you discipline society right? because Rule rule is the threat and discipline is the act right? So if you if the culture.

01:46:28.86

mikebledsoe

The criminal Justice system.

01:47:02.78

Max Shank

Is in a bit of a dysfunctional abusive schizophrenic relationship with its policing of Behavior. Do you think that naturally a lot of people would do the same thing internally so that internal or pattern of how you ah Govern or police. Or discipline your own behavior whether you do it with blame and shame and isolation of that part of you versus acceptance and learning and reeducation of that party right? It's like you're putting the same experience through a very different.

01:48:03.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:48:17.88

Max Shank

Filter which I mean look the way we make Filters is really really tinier and tinier Meshes just like a net a water filter and a net that you catch fish with the the main difference is the size of the openings.

01:48:49.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, it's interesting when I think about these patterns I think about how they begun or began begun began and um these these patterns are fractal in nature so they usually started off as. They always start off as something small if we look at the pattern of humanity and um, there were not that many people on this planet five hundred years ago if you if you went to Paris France Five hundred years ago there weren't that many people there. I mean it was big for its time but compared to now it was just so tiny but all the rules all the ideas about how society should be governed stem from that time and.

01:50:07.24

Max Shank

M.

01:50:29.82

Max Shank

From France five hundred years ago or from the greeks like two thousand ish years ago like de ah when was democritus.

01:50:38.58

mikebledsoe

Well yeah, you keep going for their back but I'm just using people can I think people I think people can possibly like if we don't go too far back. But yeah you you keep going further and further back you go to the greeks you go to the hebrews you go to the Egyptians and you you follow the the thread.

01:51:04.88

Max Shank

Right? I for an eye you follow the thread which is interesting because it's like um how they did history for a while was through these tapestries and they would actually tell a story through the the chain.

01:51:16.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:51:30.24

mikebledsoe

A.

01:51:44.20

Max Shank

So it's it's really funny ah connection I made the other day and there are too many word puns to follow, but the funny connection I made is that a link is one connection and a chain is multiple connections in sequence Dna multiple connections in sequence. So that's a big difference. Um. In how those connections work together. Ah um, a chain is many connections. A matrix is also a different orientation of many connections and so different elements have different structures. That are more matrix-like or more chain-like like for example, long chain fatty acids that sort of thing so there are these um, different ways that we connect to things and a lot of it like you said tracing the thread. Back that's what we try to do. We're trying to go back and figure out where those connections started being made and the further back you go. It's none becomes None None becomes 2 None becomes 3 3 becomes all things that was in the dao two thousand years ago that's a pattern that a guy wrote down and we still can't ah absorb it. We can regurgitate it we can bounce it around. We can modify it but all those all those written things left a pattern and that is I think the story of. Human supremacy when you get right down to it. It's the fact that we were able to accumulate written knowledge and access it really quickly so you can take I mean right now on Youtube there's a thing learning about how materials are put together. Ah, Youtube channels called us auto industry and they take you through hydraulics and gears and aerodynamics and drag and they take you through all of these different things. The videos are super crystal clear simple and it's like you took that expert. His whole life and synthesized it into 10 minutes but those 10 minutes were based on generation after generation after generation of patterned ah accumulation of knowledge. So it's like ah, an external brain so we could. Ah, decode for later just very similar to Dna. It's basically a code for making a car or Dna is like a code for making proteins. But it's all it's all based on our ability to keep a record of it and a Dna of course is a living record.

01:57:14.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well I think about what you were saying with written. Ah we have records written and up until what one hundred years ago most people were were illiterate and a small percentage of the population could even read. So only a small percentage of population had access to understanding and not only that the books that they had access to they usually existed in a university and so there was ah a highly It was a high concentration of knowledge that. People studied that were dictating society and then about one hundred years ago literacy started to really take hold and you know because they talked about the printing press but the printing the printing press it preceded literacy without the printing press. There wouldn't be literacy but the technology. Ah. Of there being an abundance of books caused the human mind to go be curious about that enough to study how to read to learn it and now we fast forward.

01:59:36.12

Max Shank

Printing press I think that was a big thing for the gutenberg bible right.

01:59:39.38

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and I think the I think the benefit of back then was there was a limited amount of things that you could consider and you didn't have to look. You didn't have to sift through as much to go back to the beginning. Or as far back to the beginning as you could now we pull out our phone and there's videos and everything that have trapped us in what's happening right now. The the average American Yeah, the average. Yeah yeah, it's not right now right now it's it's they're sucked into.

02:00:37.10

Max Shank

Somewhere else though.

02:00:55.80

mikebledsoe

What's happening. Well no way that they're they're they're considering what's happening today. What is happening today that matters.

02:01:11.20

Max Shank

Ironically, it's a portal to anywhere else than here and now that's what's funny because you're saying it's like they're looking what's happening now elsewhere but ironic you're right? But it's also kind of ironic because you're looking for anything else.

02:01:37.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but the yeah my point is that time the time consideration is is so short like what happened last week doesn't matter anymore. It only all that matters is today and people are so people are so yeah.

02:01:40.80

Max Shank

But here and now.

02:01:53.80

Max Shank

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay so that's insanity. That's insanity full on insanity.

02:02:15.48

mikebledsoe

People people are so engrossed they have so much data coming in about what matters today in the whole world that they think they should yeah they don't have boundaries but that person is totally ingrossed andgross in what's happening now doesn't have the opportunity to look back in history.

02:02:29.48

Max Shank

Because they can't draw boundaries.

02:02:54.90

mikebledsoe

To go back and say how was consciousness formed. How did we come to these considerations. What actually is science. There is.

02:03:07.94

Max Shank

Well think of the usefulness of code and the usefulness of 24 hour news it is antithetical so a book is code a person is the computer Basically that runs that code. And so if you want something to be organized. It should be organized by outcome or by subject or by material. But if you have it organized by what the fucking pricks are talking about on the Tv today. That's the worst organization possible and it's very difficult to get any kind of good information out of that and you're going to be basically putting out your own schizophrenic psychological fires because you're like oh my god didn't realize what was happening in Serbia and then the next week you're like oh my god I didn't realize what was happening in. South Africa and then you're like oh my god I didn't realize what was happening to the veterans and then pretty soon you're whipped up into this frenzy where you're upset about everything but you can't do anything about it and it makes you feel so disconnected because. What you're aware of your radius of awareness and your radius of control are so far apart and that goes back to why working with stuff with your hands even just moving stuff around like moving weights around with your hands that'll make a big difference. It'll connect you to reality.

02:05:55.26

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:06:07.56

Max Shank

Go climb a tree. Go take a walk Boom you're immediately connected into reality into moving your body locomotion or projectiles moving other stuff and if you are if you're just whipped into this frenzy because you know people are trying to program other people. It's all we do. In fact.

02:06:24.40

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:06:46.70

Max Shank

Pretty much as we try to program other people. Ah usually with the best of intentions too like I'm sure there are None of people who think school is like a good idea and and I just don't but that's fine. Yeah yeah, they they probably want people to like.

02:07:08.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, their heart's in the right place You think it's best for the kids. Well people also think that it's um, ah just they they think I think a lot of people they go Well I did it so it must be good. So other people should do it I mean that's.

02:07:21.12

Max Shank

Behave themselves and like get married and like kept.

02:07:41.16

Max Shank

Um, well and that's even a different thing like it. It's like hazing.

02:07:47.92

mikebledsoe

That's big in the military of like I'm looking at the training and I go this doesn't really make sense. We're not really optimizing for getting better at our job. They're like well this we we went through it and no I'm like all whatever.

02:08:14.64

Max Shank

Sometimes things are done a certain way because it really is the best way and sometimes things are done a certain way literally just because that's how they've been doing it and no one can imagine a different no one even tries to imagine a different way.

02:08:25.96

mikebledsoe

Sometimes.

02:08:54.30

Max Shank

You know and that's why you don't want to fight things Anyway, speaking of patterns when you fight something you immediately create a counterforce even if you punch the shit out of that thing upon that connection of your fist and that fucker's face. There's a counter force going right back into your fist and then more. Metaphorically speaking you're going to create a counter response to your active opposing Force. So That's why it's always better to obsolete than to fight if you have the option.

02:09:52.98

mikebledsoe

Yeah I was reading a book yesterday that was talking about that is the the the people who are censoring are fighting. They're really fighting decentralization but censorship creates the necessity for decentralization and. You know Twitter Facebook Instagram they're trying to fight misinformation but the harder that they tried to fight misinformation with censorship the more prolific decentralization becomes because people start getting they start leaving the platform to go.

02:11:07.18

Max Shank

It's natural. It's like cat and mouse. It's like it's natural cat and mouse evolution. The cat evolves longer claws. The mouse gets smaller and more clever. Ah same kind of idea right? You have hackers and then you got people who work in.

02:11:09.80

mikebledsoe

To go to something That's not a platform. Yeah.

02:11:42.86

Max Shank

Ah, software security which of course are also hackers. But they're basically like 1 upping each other all the time just the way that creatures have seemed to ah grow and evolve and fork out into these different sort of test branches almost.

02:12:13.96

mikebledsoe

Now. Yeah.

02:12:20.66

Max Shank

So it's better to obsolete and speaking of the patterns like we were talking about. Ah, it's hard to recognize which of the programs coming in are important and not important a lot of the time I think that can be a real challenge.

02:12:53.38

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, well that's a pattern too. The things that you're filtering what's important and not important so fast that it's it's built up over the years of life that you go.

02:12:57.58

Max Shank

Most everything is ah like not important that.

02:13:31.62

mikebledsoe

This is this is important. Not important people decide really quick and they miss opportunities really great opportunities all the time just pass right by them. There's there's this thing called the reticular activating system are familiar to ah Ras. Okay.

02:13:41.52

Max Shank

Oh.

02:14:02.20

Max Shank

No, but I'd like to be.

02:14:09.30

mikebledsoe

You probably are you just probably don't know by name and it's it's if I start if I go out and buy a red truck. What am I going to see on the road all the time a red truck. Yeah, we prime we primed the system.

02:14:26.64

Max Shank

Okay I do know what you're talking about.

02:14:42.64

mikebledsoe

For now seeing red trucks because red truck has become very important to me I just spent $50000 on a red truck and I love this thing and I have this emotional connection to it and so now I start seeing them everywhere so the same thing happens with ah.

02:15:04.80

Max Shank

Whoa.

02:15:22.16

mikebledsoe

People and their patterns is they they notice patterns and make things important only because that's always how it's been, but you can you can intentionally change the pattern of your mind through things like mantras or by by having a conversation with someone else who can create. Help create a possibility for you. You have a conversation you and I have a deep conversation about a topic and the next thing I know I'm meeting people who can help me with this opportunity. Maybe you and I have this business idea and all of a sudden people start coming through that can contribute to this business idea. And that's the that's the ah Ras and that's most people's ah Ras is really just running the same program all the time they're noticing the same things that no purple cows. Yeah, but if you can.

02:17:00.86

Max Shank

No purple cows. You're just seeing normal stuff.

02:17:14.55

mikebledsoe

Intentionally go in there and tinker with the pattern of how you think which is fairly easy then you can start seeing new opportunities.

02:17:31.86

Max Shank

You know what's wild is the only reason you can see anything at all is because of Pattern recognition your your eyes just giving you a very um surface level reflection of photons that have bounced back and each.

02:17:44.45

mikebledsoe

Now.

02:18:11.62

Max Shank

Color has a different ah frequency to it and you have different Organs rods and cones in your eye that decipher those and eventually it does create this image but the only reason that image means anything is because of Pattern Recognition. So if you um. Try to like if you kind of simplify it down if you see a wall of triangles and then one square in there, you're going to be like whoa. That's ah, that's a little weird. You're going to be like what's that square doing in this wall of triangles and vice versa and that's why as you get to be ah like to have more simple type of vision like a lizard. Ah, many Lizards at least they can't really see stuff unless it moves and that's why they say that the eye is attracted to movement and when you start getting into the neuroscience of Vision. It's It's a deep deep Rabbit hole. In understanding the patterns around you but it just shows you once again, what it's useful to show you so you can find the banana and not get eaten by a tiger or a hawk or something like that.

02:20:29.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well is where something where psychedelics get really interesting. Take a couple hits of acid and you start noticing what it what acid one of the things it does lsd it. It starts creating new connections in the brain. Usually the neural connections are going between the None shortest points between the None and that's one of the things that creates the pattern of attention. Yeah, and mushrooms do this lsd does this but it starts the.

02:21:16.80

Max Shank

Um, just like fungus and most things most things yeah water.

02:21:36.36

mikebledsoe

It starts connecting parts of the brain that have never been connected before and even there's this thing called I think it's Synestasia where you can see colors or or taste sounds yeah see music and um, but yeah, yeah, bet.

02:21:51.84

Max Shank

He see music. Yeah sounds cool I've never experienced that myself I would love to see music I mean I've seen like us.

02:22:14.40

mikebledsoe

And you've never seen music.

02:22:27.14

Max Shank

Ah I've seen us use pretty cool tools to turn sound waves into vibrating Sand or lasers or sine waves or.

02:22:35.26

mikebledsoe

Um, there was a day I had I was on 2 hits ass and maybe 4 somewhere in there and um, sometimes I heard to tell what you took I was listening to music and I was looking at this picture.

02:23:06.10

Max Shank

It's another reason why you're not the research department hard to know if it was 2 or 4 Okay, so don't go to Mike for the recipe. Okay I'm not sure if it's one tablespoon of baking soda or one cup I don't know.

02:23:22.94

mikebledsoe

Ah. Whatever same thing. Ah so but I'm looking I'm looking at a painting and with each beat of the meat of the music. The colors are changing and the music and the painting are interacting and the painting's actually not that colorful. There was maybe.

02:23:41.60

Max Shank

It's not the same thing.

02:24:09.88

mikebledsoe

3 or 4 colors total but colors were changing and then there were images that were they were appearing that I didn't notice before but you could also go hiking out nature and then it disrupts the patterns of what you already see because people walk they can go walk a trail or they go walk around their neighborhood and they don't.

02:24:21.74

Max Shank

That's cool.

02:24:49.62

mikebledsoe

They kind of notice the same things they don't notice the same things I mean people miss stuff all time if if you you know you've probably been hiking with people and you're noticing. It's like oh or they notice something you don't but if you're on something like Lsd you're gonna notice. So many other things and that's why a lot of times people really don't move much. They don't they're not going to travel a long distance when on that that medicine and they're going to because they're so busy noticing the palm of their hand and looking at oh my gosh look at all these lines and.

02:25:30.82

Max Shank

Let he.

02:26:01.58

mikebledsoe

And your ability to see is just is is so enhanced but that's a really good example of something that disrupts a pattern to where you really can't go about your daily life like if I if I'm on asset and you ask me to go to a cashier and make a purchase. It's It's not going to happen I Just can't do the.

02:26:35.44

Max Shank

Hey.

02:26:39.98

mikebledsoe

Those patterns that are so ingrained that I whip my card out normally don't even think about it. But if I have to buy a sandwich at a festival. Um I'm having a problem.

02:26:46.32

Max Shank

My. Yeah I mean when you overdo it on any kind of substance Beyond like capabilities. Ah I think ah.

02:27:13.20

mikebledsoe

That's true. Well the difference between that like alcohol like you're just you're like you're so depressed that you can't make sense of the world and with Lsd Everything is so loud that you can't filter it all.

02:27:33.56

Max Shank

I Just remember when I was in college I was really ah hammered I Drank like a small bottle of tequila on my own and I got into an argument with a ticketing machine on the trolley and we couldn't resolve our differences So I ultimately had to jump. Over the turnsile. But I mean I I literally couldn't figured out how to pay $2 at ah at a screen but thats because I was inebriated Beyond belief but ah you mentioned something cool which is you notice more and what? what is a pattern.

02:28:15.00

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:28:47.52

Max Shank

Or what is a frequency without a sensor to pick it up so people have different levels of sensitivity to different things like when you're when you're learning how to emf is one when you're learning how to do massage right? I mean.

02:29:00.20

mikebledsoe

Um, emf is 1 Yeah.

02:29:27.32

Max Shank

I'm guessing a lot of people have experienced a good massage and a bad one and it's really obvious when the person can't feel the structures of your body with precision. You know it's very obvious and so.

02:29:57.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:30:06.46

Max Shank

There are different levels of sensitivity to like let's say your fingertips like think about Braille. For example, if you if you dragged your hand across a bunch of bumps on a page you would have no idea what they mean, but someone who had finally tuned their sensory skills. Would pick that up right away and I think that's what the the substances some substances can do is they can open up your sensor. They basically turn you into this big radar dish that is capable of picking up way more signal than usual and I think why it's so.

02:31:04.68

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:31:21.40

Max Shank

Ah, overwhelming to go walk around is because instead of taking in. Let's say five gigabytes of visual information. Every step now you're taking five thousand gigabytes or five terabytes of visual visual ah input every step and.

02:31:51.12

mikebledsoe

It's a lot. It's a big difference.

02:31:59.88

Max Shank

You know if you don't have the right equipment. You can't sense those things. That's why we see ah rgb Basically and that's why the little tiny lights on your screen that you may be watching right now are red green and blue because that's.

02:32:12.78

mikebledsoe

Me.

02:32:37.58

Max Shank

How we see things and other animals have different ah structure in their eyes like sadly for asian deer they can't really see orange so that makes a tiger that is orange with black stripes nearly impossible to see in that environment. But. If you put that tiger in a different environment like I don't know Alaska or some shit where it's or or somewhere where it's white. It's not going to camouflage very well at all. So it's all about that specific relationship between the deer that can't see orange the environment.

02:33:32.56

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

02:33:54.64

Max Shank

And the color of the cat and the pattern on the Cat. So. It's is very fascinating. Um, how it's always that relationship. It's really important to think of it in terms of what relationship we would love for some things to be totally universal, but apart from the fact that. You know everything is jiggling around all the time there aren't too many ah fundamental truths that are always the Case. It's usually ah contextual.

02:34:48.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah I want I want to bring this to I want to get some ah practical things here. So um, other than taking lsd talking about breaking out of old patterns and into new patterns. Ah, one of the exercises I actually got from Dan Sullivan and it's the None x thinking I think it's what he calls it ten x and it's all right? You're creating an offer. You're you're creating say a coaching package.

02:35:40.34

Max Shank

Hit.

02:35:58.26

Max Shank

The.

02:36:01.82

mikebledsoe

And you know so many coaches have a hard time imagining being able to charge more than 2 or $300 a month or $400 a month and so and so it's good to sit down. Go well what if you were to sell something for 2 or $3000 a month. Let's add a 0 here.

02:36:17.92

Max Shank

Yeah.

02:36:39.58

mikebledsoe

What would that offer look like what would make it that valuable and all of a sudden all these ideas come flooding in was a well shit man if I had that kind of if it was of that much value and I had some money to play around with I would actually be able to vote more of my time energy into this person or I would be able to partner with this other. Other thing and maybe I'm doing blood work now on top of what I'm already offering so the the None x thinking saying? Okay, what would you if we were to take 10 ah 10 times what you're currently charging what would that look like and on the flip side. There's also what would you offer. What could you offer for none of what you're charging. What would be $20 or $30 and now you start having all sorts of different ideas about and that's one way of breaking out of a pattern and it doesn't just apply to money it can apply to.

02:38:00.56

Max Shank

Totally yeah.

02:38:31.20

mikebledsoe

A lot of other things that the 10 x thinking or the None thinking if you had 10 times more time in the day you know what would you do or I really like having saying yeah you have yet 10 say there's 240 hours

02:38:43.28

Max Shank

Um, that's a good question 10 times more time in the day.

02:39:08.40

mikebledsoe

And the day that'd be That's more than a week. What if you what if you had a whole week to accomplish what and other people were just living a day. What would that look like.

02:39:12.58

Max Shank

I think I would. So if I if I knew I was going to live None times longer than them.

02:39:33.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, that's ah, that's a good way of thinking about it. Let's just let's just imagine you're going to live to a thousand and everyone else is going to live to a None

02:39:40.20

Max Shank

Well so age isn't about the number of days you've been Alive. It's about the knowledge that you've accumulated in the experiences you've had right. Being alive lots of days doesn't mean shit if you spent your whole day just like living inside Watching. Ah.

02:40:15.94

mikebledsoe

Well let's just but we're measuring in days. That's the measure all right? Let's say in a month and um and in a month you lived um, you got as much done in six months and everyone else got.

02:40:26.24

Max Shank

What do you? So what's the question.

02:40:39.78

Max Shank

I mean.

02:40:55.42

mikebledsoe

Done in one month let's just look at it like that I think you do too which but most people don't like most people would what? what? what? What comes up leverage is 1 thing but also when we started thinking about time in this way I think.

02:40:56.90

Max Shank

I mean I already do that.

02:41:10.50

Max Shank

Right? It's about it's about leverage. It's all about leverage.

02:41:32.28

mikebledsoe

It's a really great way to get away from comparison because if I if I stop I can't compare myself to someone else if we're talking about a 10 X difference in time if I'm experiencing a 10 X difference in time than other people which I think you're one of those people that experience time different. Than other people. Most people are cramming their schedule with back to back to back to back and have no time to breathe and you're someone who is ah has a lot more leisure space. Yeah.

02:42:31.78

Max Shank

It's hard to get me on a calendar like this show actually is wild because I've never understood the fact that we've been so consistent I mean folks like it. It really just goes to show how much I enjoy the experience because I and everybody else. We do exactly what we want all the time. Ah, we do whatever we think is going to give us the best result this is a lot of fun. So I do it if it's not fun I don't really do it and the idea of cramming a day full of appointments sounds awful but having the ability. To connect with who I like sounds sounds amazing.

02:43:48.76

mikebledsoe

Yeah, so we have that that. Ah, if if you could say hey I'm going to live 1000 years how would you behave? How would you? How would you live each day. It would probably you would probably do things differently and if I were to say that you experience.

02:44:16.40

Max Shank

I would.

02:44:26.86

mikebledsoe

You only have let's say 3 hours where everyone else has 24 hours in a day. How do you say you only have three what we call it three waking hours if you only had three waking hours well everyone else had a full you know 16 hour waking day and you only had 3 what would.

02:44:33.30

Max Shank

Um, yeah, right. Um, yeah now.

02:45:06.56

mikebledsoe

What would you do with your time and that's a really great way to find priorities because if you only have most people they look at their day and go I've got a 16 hour waking period of time and I don't have enough time in the day that's a problem.

02:45:32.84

Max Shank

Well I mean totally what you're talking about is the crux of success or power Even um, basically it's pressure or force per area or per. Distance right? Like how much effort or how much what can you? invest energy wise to get the largest return at the end. Basically ah if you could spend yeah and what you're doing basically is.

02:46:29.10

mikebledsoe

No.

02:46:45.48

Max Shank

2 orders of magnitude mathematical thinking up and down so you have a None x swing in your ideas about that topic. So you're creating an upper and lower bound that are certainly further away than most people would naturally think which is why that ah framework or that.

02:46:48.10

mikebledsoe

Empty.

02:47:22.38

Max Shank

Ah, pattern to filter this idea through is so useful because it gets you to think how could I divide the membership by None how could I multiply it by 10 how could I get the cost. How could I increase the cost 10 x you know all that stuff. But it's. It comes back down to leverage ultimately because it's how much can you ah get out energy-wise for how much you put in and if we're using time as the limiting limiting factor because ah for us energy and time are. So closely linked. They might as well be the same thing for most for for the sake of most things but it ah it's still important to see like what gives you the biggest return on one hour of your time and just thinking about um.

02:48:37.24

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

02:49:12.58

Max Shank

What to do in terms of multiply by 10 divide by 10 very cool but it is ultimately about leverage. It is about how much you can get out for each one that you put in per unit of investment.

02:49:36.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah I said we wrap this up. My computer is giving me weird signals and let's bring it home.

02:49:46.88

Max Shank

Bring it bring it home bring it home I mean that's a see this is what I was worried about I feel like there's a lot left to discuss I feel like we didn't get into the different vibrations of very dense and. Porous materials and I we hardly got into computer programming at all but look I'm going to I'm going to keep it simple from my end all right when it comes to human beings today. Everything we have has been built off of the accumulation of these patterns. These patterns are our Dna. These patterns are the books that have sustained or the stories that have sustained the human programming. That has sustained and the programming or the code or the recipes for how to make really insanely awesome tools and I would say those are like the 3 practical things for human beings and then. I think it's fun to talk about crystals and metal and manufacturing and all that stuff but without the code without the instructions without the chain of events without knowing how to put all those links together in the proper sequence. You can't get a car. You can't get a cellphone. You can't even get a fucking good loaf of bread. The recipe's got to be done in order. The only way you'll know is with the pattern the code.

02:53:07.20

mikebledsoe

Excellent, yeah and look at your own Life. You're living out a pattern from day to day and if something's not going the way that you want it to go analyze that Pattern. That's what I call Dysfunction. Something's not going the way you want to go. There's a dysfunction in your pattern somewhere. And it's a fract.. It's fractal Nature. You may need to look really far back and mostly the patterns of behavior and the ways of thinking and your emotional patterns all stem from your childhood. So if you want to be able to to really look at that you might have to get into a really reflective space and maybe. Come to some hard truths and that may give you the opportunity to make new decisions moving forward and create New Patterns. Thanks for joining me max where where people finding you. What are we doing http://maxshaink.com.

02:54:52.64

Max Shank

http://maxshank.com at maxank. Ah, if you guys have any questions for the show or about the show I will I'll I'll answer him I think that would be fun like to connect with the audience a little bit more. So thanks for tuning in. Thank you Mike.

02:55:15.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, and I got a summit coming up this weekend for coaches out there. It starts on Thursday we're gonna go four to five hours a day and Thursday through Saturday and then if you're an academy member you you obviously get up extra access vi ipd on sunday. Ah, if you want to get it in on that it's a pay what you want go to shop dot http://thestrongcoach.com. Thanks y'all. That's a great deal.

02:56:02.74

Max Shank

That's a good deal.

00:01.12

Max Shank

Here's the deal. So there's a perfect, no intro this we're just here now you're here we're here I'm here you're here. We're all here the official show but this is for just the like inner club. But anyway I was going to say a case study.

00:02.60

mikebledsoe

It's the first one.

00:16.94

mikebledsoe

We'll do the intro when we start the official show.

00:35.54

Max Shank

On viewer engagement. One of the best I've ever seen was this Youtube channel called Ants Canada okay I think it's like a filipino dude. It's some asian guy who has this Youtube channel called Ants Canada and every fucking film.

00:51.20

mikebledsoe

Ahead.

01:14.58

Max Shank

Is about ants and ant colonies and he sells ant gear but basically he has this membership that he calls the Ac senate right? and so he basically has people pay to have a say in all kinds of weird stuff like. What are we gonna do with this new colony. What are we gonna name this thing and he gives them like preferential voting rights for what happens in the community. It's so crazy. How ah how much this guy connects with the audience. And's so it's a weird stuff ah because ants and ant colonies are pretty weird but talk about a case study for how to engage with an audience. This guy is dialed ants Canada case study ants st ants canada is a case study for.

02:57.28

mikebledsoe

Aunts Canada alright.

03:07.76

Max Shank

How to engage with your audience on multiple levels. He sells physical products. He has basically ah a membership where you get called? yeah like ants like the bug the insect. Yeah exactly it's incredible.

03:28.28

mikebledsoe

It's a and TS like like the like the insect to podcast.

03:46.40

Max Shank

No, it's video series Youtube thing. It's not a podcast but he sells ant colony plastic molded parts to people. He also has this this. It's the weirdest thing I've ever heard of like you would wonder like why is it that people would pay to get to make decisions but he has positioned the joy of naming a new ant colony or deciding what to do. In this like new video series as good as Tom Sawyer ah portraying the benefits of whitewashing offense. He's like wouldn't you guys like to make this decision for him like they are driving his content and paying to drive the content. It's.

05:30.86

mikebledsoe

It's really I mean it's as Facebook Twitter you know create the platform. Yeah create the platform and just let them let the let the people be the product was that the people will create the product. They'll be the product.

05:32.38

Max Shank

It's unbelievable Youtube oh my god what an acquisition.

06:02.50

mikebledsoe

And then you just sell advertising.

06:08.32

Max Shank

It's like ah what they did with was it Hong Kong or Singapore can't I remember 1 of them. It's like the guy's name was Lee coshing you ever hear that guy. Ah.

06:30.90

mikebledsoe

E.

06:41.24

Max Shank

Rikash xing Hong Kong business magnate none richest guy in the world. His whole thing. He just like built up. Ah let's see hold on. I don't know his whole thing was about owning the port that that was the that was the ah whole story. Basically.

07:24.20

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, it's kind of like the the gold rush. The people who made the most money were the ones selling the shovels I think that's where maybe Levi's came from the blue jeans is yeah I'm not 100% sure on this but I I think that ah that.

07:38.16

Max Shank

Right. Um, leave eyes.

08:03.32

mikebledsoe

That denim company or maybe another denim company Levi's make sense though. Ah made their fortune and their start by selling denim clothing to miners. It's really durable.

08:25.20

Max Shank

Like little kids or like go look for gold in the mines Now they probably send sell more to little kids I don't know I don't wear a lot of jeans. Do you wear a lot of jeans.

08:36.64

mikebledsoe

Look go look for golden mines. Yeah, yeah, off to I'd like to not anymore not with the not with the clothes that come out today I just discovered. Um.

09:02.16

Max Shank

I Hardly wear jeans. It's not that comfortable.

09:15.54

mikebledsoe

Viori made a new pant that is looks really clean, but dude great for travel because I can wear them in a hundred degree weather I might as well be wearing shorts they breathe So well, they look nice and you know I.

09:24.24

Max Shank

Ah. Are yeah.

09:51.22

mikebledsoe

I Don't even like to wear shorts I don't like to wear casual shorts I Either want to wear pants or athletic shorts and it might be something it might be like spillover from the the military because that's pretty much how it works there. But I think like casual shorts look silly on men. Ah.

10:01.80

Max Shank

A.

10:17.60

Max Shank

Right? right. Um, like what? what do you mean?? casual shorts like cargo pants.

10:31.28

mikebledsoe

That's just like you know like yeah like like cargo shorts or just like the shorts that are pants that are cut off. You know it's It's like those are kind of silly. It's like when I just wear athletic shorts I'm like an athletic shorts and fanny pack or I'm going to be wearing.

10:49.96

Max Shank

Ah, you know what.

11:07.94

mikebledsoe

You know some slacks.

11:10.94

Max Shank

You know what? I'm really into is like the like the ah Rei type of hiking pant and I and I want to get some that turn into shorts but I was thinking about it and I don't know if I would rather have them unzip all the way.

11:22.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

11:47.58

Max Shank

Or if I would want to have them roll up and clip on I haven't seen many like that there are some out there because I have I have a couple pairs totally but the utility I mean.

11:51.50

mikebledsoe

I think roll up and clip on makes more sense there. There are some out there I've seen some yeah the zip out I try to avoid moving parts as I try to. Until the zipper breaks plus rolling up just looks way cooler. That's that's the real Rob there they look cooler than having a zipper hanging off your shorts.

12:26.52

Max Shank

Is fantastic. So maybe maybe the roll up till the zipper breaks. Yeah, that's a good point. Those are my my favorite pants I got a couple at Costco they're just.

12:57.00

Max Shank

Yeah, that's a great point I went on a bike ride yesterday actually mountain bike ride for the None time in like years. Ah, all because I was learning about air compressors and how our compressors work.

13:03.40

mikebledsoe

I mean.

13:34.56

Max Shank

And so I was getting out my air compressor and I was like how how does my air compressor work. How powerful is this thing Really what kind of stuff because I bought one when I got my house because I was like every house needs an air compressor because I was ah like I didn't really know? Yeah, like yeah.

13:59.32

mikebledsoe

Oh like a proper air compressor one with a big tank. Yeah, not the kind that you carry around in your car. Yeah something you could use with tools and whatnot. Yeah yeah, I'm into those those.

14:12.76

Max Shank

Like a little pancake. No no I wouldn't It's a little too big and heavy for that. Yeah, like a nail gun staple gun that kind of thing and so those things are savage.

14:36.38

mikebledsoe

I've got some air compressor tools. If if you're gonna work on a car I don't know how I don't know how I worked on a car before I have that which I don't really work on cars much anymore. But I remember that being a major upgrade.

15:04.26

Max Shank

Yeah I think knowing how to put stuff together like that is such an underrated ability because I notice as I am problem solving in the garage with my hands. It makes me it makes it easier for me to visualize how to put other things together. Like Ideas. You know this attaches to this and you have to divide this. You have to sharpen this. You have to round off these edges. There are all these problem solving things that go on with how to put stuff together and it makes me even think of like mathematics how that factors in to.

15:43.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, there's um.

16:20.62

Max Shank

Putting stuff together and how much how much you just learn through the process of doing it. You know it's good to know arithmetic. But I have it.

16:32.70

mikebledsoe

There's a book. There's a book called the metaphors we live by and have you read it did you did you buy it on my recommendation or did you just happen to get it simultaneously. Wow Yeah I I hardly run in anyone who's read it. Ah.

16:52.62

Max Shank

I think I had I think I bought it before? Yeah yeah, ah yes, and like most books I've read I maybe retained like 10%

17:08.18

mikebledsoe

But have you read it.

17:22.74

mikebledsoe

Got it? Yeah so metaphors we live by really highlights how the mind works and that everything in the mind is a metaphor to something an objective reality and so ah so kind of like the.

17:53.96

Max Shank

Right now.

18:00.98

mikebledsoe

Projectile and project metaphor We talked about before yeah eyeballs. Um.

18:06.94

Max Shank

Eyeballs eyeballs are super reliable but they're not showing you objective reality because there are a lot of layers.

18:19.88

mikebledsoe

Well, they are but you're not filtering it. But anyways.

18:32.44

Max Shank

Well your eyes don't show you objective reality your eyes show you? How light is reacting with matter but there's a lot going on that is beyond. The visible spectrum is what I'm saying.

18:44.12

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

18:55.10

mikebledsoe

Totally. But so one of the things it talks about is ah like ontological metaphors and so one is how we refer to the mind. So the mind is a machine so there's all these examples of.

19:26.90

Max Shank

A.

19:33.86

mikebledsoe

Ah, that in in the English language the mind is a machine and it's also brittle and so when you look at the English language as a whole the majority of the references to the mind is that it's a mechanical thing that's brittle.

19:48.36

Max Shank

A.

20:09.12

Max Shank

Right? It sounds dangerous. Sounds like a dangerous belief to me like that that makes me a little queasy even based on how I see the mind or how I would try to define the mind or even just the brain.

20:13.48

mikebledsoe

And so ah, people believe that it yes and.

20:44.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, but but you know and and it's common language is as people are talking are unconsciously talking about it in this way. So they're further embedding this thing is true and so they they they don't know how to treat their own own mind or organize it because they actually have an incorrect.

20:48.30

Max Shank

Like the organ because I think that's different.

21:00.58

Max Shank

Um, right right.

21:23.92

mikebledsoe

Or an inaccurate view of what it actually is ah so one of the things the book talks about is how we use objects to ah create Concepts so anything that's conceptual. We're having we need to.

21:28.26

Max Shank

He no.

21:48.00

Max Shank

E.

21:58.28

mikebledsoe

Associate it with an object out in physical space and so ah, one of the things that I've noticed I'm in total agreement with you I've been I've been meditating on this because I read that book about a year ago and I noticed that as I've been doing more physical tasks and building things that my ability to problem solving in the conceptual realm has gone way up and anytime I'm having a conceptual problem I go work on something that's on an object I go build something or fix something. Ah.

22:45.12

Max Shank

A.

23:07.18

mikebledsoe

All of a sudden the world makes more sense and I think part of that is if we spend too much time in the conceptual Realm without being in the objective Realm Then we end up. Ah, we end up way out in this place that doesn't make any sense. And and we become ungrounded and I know you and ah I are alike in this way because we love the mental Masturbation. We'll go off into some conceptual Realm and start changing. You know, ah physicists do this. They'll change one lot of physics to solve a problem and then they try to. Bring it back and so and then reapply to law and and it's one way of doing experimentation but the problem is a lot of people start doing that and they never come back to Earth and so I think having that balance between doing things and objective reality and conceptual. And conceptualizing things is really really beneficial.

25:12.48

Max Shank

Oh Yeah I was laughing so many times there because it makes me think about how enslaved people are by thinking certain things matter and the word matter is funny right? Because. Stuff matters. Ah you know water is matter air is matter and these ideas that we have. It's like we think too many things matter that aren't matter at all.

25:51.44

mikebledsoe

Right.

26:02.36

mikebledsoe

This bottle is matter.

26:26.50

mikebledsoe

Ah, well does just to make the statement that something is matter that isn't matter pulls you out of reality. You've become ungrounded.

26:28.36

Max Shank

And you are just more and more divorced from reality because hold right? of course look um these words and ideas are. Very useful and it's never the complete truth because they're just symbols right? but they are concrete enough to give us the plans to make a plane or a computer I mean that's all language derived and that's how the matter is directed. So. The ideas are like the pattern like Pattern Pattern father and the stuff the substance the matter the mother ma her modern is ah guided by our ideas. But if you don't have what's that yeah.

28:09.34

mikebledsoe

Oh man I'm loving these metaphors that that makes so much sense because that the father is is the structure of like the pattern structure and the matter is the stuff.

28:23.80

Max Shank

Yeah, if you don't yeah if you don't have the father's the pattern the Pattern the pattern right? mother is the matter. Yeah, the stuff and the ah the energy.

28:47.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

28:55.84

Max Shank

It's like kinetic and potential I mean there are a lot of ways that you can ah yin and young and dichotomize these ideas right? But ah my point is that we are made of matter you eat an orange. You actually are that orange is becoming you. And your body is able to break it down into its basic components and then that stuff becomes you and the stuff that doesn't become you becomes shit or sweat or something like I mean it's crazy, but it literally becomes you so this idea. That when you um, get your hands involved. You get so much of your brain involved and then it's rooted in a reality that is very easy to understand. It's very It's all about, um. God I guess it's all about power really when you get down to it because we're talking about ah force times distance ah or work over time is power ah, power is work over time work is force times distance. And that's that's a reality that's easy to track momentum things like that all this dark matter. Ah like black hole shit is mental masturbation. It's fine. It's mental masturbation though. But once you start getting in there and you can do macrame you can. Ah, make something out of wood. You could carve something out of Clay. Ah but building that connection between your creativity and your curiosity and this physical reality is critical and if you apply that same thing to fitness. Fitness is essentially ah how well you're able to deliver force how well you're able to deliver force into your right leg so you can run and take a step with your right leg and how well you can absorb.

32:56.36

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

33:21.00

Max Shank

And return Force I Mean That's why my latest training program is called elasticity because it's all about absorbing and returning forests without ah permanent deformation and that's that's like as close as you can get to the best longevity practice. And we all have our pet loves for ah what makes fitness good or what makes you live a long time. But if you ah you know have good friendships and family kind of ties if you have fun and if you. Ah, fast. So You just don't eat too Much. You'll live a really long time even if you're just like medium elastic Fitness you just need ah a basic level of how to interact with your environment with these alternating forces.

34:48.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

35:06.26

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah.

35:11.64

Max Shank

Ah, so it just it's very centering even climbing a tree go climb a tree and then you are like intimately associated with the forces required to lift you up off the ground and once you're in those situations you have room to explore and then this. Idea of like what matters or like what you should be fucking prideful of like I God I was just thinking the other day you know almost every holiday is about victimization that we have. Like almost every holiday is like it fucking kills me because we have like okay we have like memorial day that's ah, it's for the people who were killed like we are appreciating those poor victims but that's what they were. They were victims and of course we don't talk about like why they were victimized.

36:44.78

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

37:07.34

Max Shank

Because people don't really like that when you go in? Oh dude I'll be fucking kicked right out of the cemetery if I say these guys died for nothing but the fucking ambitions of old politicians with nothing better to do than tell other people how to live their fucking lives.

37:07.66

mikebledsoe

Of you start getting into that but people will get offended.

37:46.40

Max Shank

And so people don't like people don't like that no way because you know to generalize Bobby Joe went into that Vietnam and he did his country proud and that is a way better belief to take with you than he died for nothing.

37:46.40

mikebledsoe

Um, people don't like that. No no.

38:08.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you know what? um.

38:25.90

Max Shank

But some fuck fuckwit politicians who just think they know best right.

38:32.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah I um, my girlfriend and I are out. We do things around town and Texas is a very patriotic place and I which means I get a lot of discounts because I'm a veteran and.

39:04.54

Max Shank

The.

39:09.66

mikebledsoe

I get a 5% discount on my guns at Cabels. Ah, it's i't I can't get a discount on guns anywhere. Ah yeah, but I get in free at play at parks and stuff and in Texas where other people are paying to get in anyways. So I get.

39:20.44

Max Shank

That's pretty cool and.

39:46.30

mikebledsoe

Hit with thank you for your service pretty frequently and and Ashley my fiancee she she knows how I feel about every you know about a lot of things she goes. What's it like what's it like to hear that because you know I always just say oh yeah, you're welcome. You know that's what my.

39:49.18

Max Shank

If.

40:05.30

Max Shank

Um, ah a threat.

40:24.30

mikebledsoe

My my pleasure you know, whatever it is that comes to mind at the time you know whatever I'm just trying to make them feel good about them giving me a compliment or whatever. But and when I did join I did think I was going in to be of service to humanity that was.

40:29.28

Max Shank

Ah, thank you.

40:42.14

Max Shank

Right.

41:01.94

mikebledsoe

Impression I was under but the yeah where I stand now is like yeah I don't feel proud I don't feel ashamed I kind of just I'm very neutral about it. It's I've dealt with the fact that I got duped and like.

41:19.78

Max Shank

He no.

41:36.18

Max Shank

I Guess you could call that neutral. Ah.

41:41.94

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean I got well I got duped and I've accepted it I'm at peace with it right? like we've all been duped. We've all been duped and you know what I'm I'm lucky because you know I did get some really great experiences out of that that made me a very resilient guy and.

41:52.52

Max Shank

Ah, ah, okay, right.

42:08.80

Max Shank

Yeah, and.

42:17.24

mikebledsoe

You know there's There's a lot of benefits I got from it most mostly the discounts but the.

42:28.64

Max Shank

I Just imagine if someone said take you for your service and he said yeah I was probably a mistake. Or or just like I wouldn't recommend I wouldn't recommend it.

42:46.66

mikebledsoe

Ah, you know I'm I'm trying that out. Well, it's bad enough that people are going to hear this on the show. Ah, but yeah, it's like ah that's all we know. But yeah, it's um.

43:08.84

Max Shank

Um, hey look it's not for everybody. It wasn't for you. That's all we know it wasn't for you. It wasn't for you.

43:24.40

mikebledsoe

But what you're saying is accurate because the the way Well the well we can go back to the holidays. But when I look at when I look at um, the government and military service and all these things is when I started looking at the government is just there's a book called the Sovereign individual and in that book they talk about how.

43:28.98

Max Shank

These holidays.

44:04.14

mikebledsoe

Formation of government and how they were there to protect farmers from people who would come and take their shit and if they didn't hire them. They were gonna take their shit and if they did hire them. They're gonna take a percentage of their shit and so ah. Basically when you.

44:42.80

Max Shank

Basically you got guys with the swords and you got guys with the hose right till in the field then you got a sword guy and you got a hoe guy I'm more of a hoe guy I think.

44:46.40

mikebledsoe

Exactly and some and yeah, some so like in the beginning it was just like who who is ah who's got the most brute force and then over time they accumulated armor horses like a ah Knight in armor. Can take out like 20 people on foot. You know like the this is yeah this is this is it and so true that yeah, but but here's the thing is before the and but.

45:30.20

Max Shank

This is grounded in reality too unless one of those guys on foot happens to have a really nice bow and arrow and then that guy's fucked speaking of projectiles.

46:00.98

mikebledsoe

Before the invention of the rifle to become skilled to be able to afford the time and the money to be a great soldier. It was it was rare and so only a select few had been in the position to do so and so.

46:36.56

Max Shank

Even ants do this. They divide up the labor into soldiers and the workers back to the ants again.

46:39.00

mikebledsoe

You it. Yeah, yeah, and so the so the whole formation of the idea government has been basically the same it's it's identical to the Mob. You know you're.

47:13.84

Max Shank

It's identical to any group. It's about specialization Ideally right.

47:17.42

mikebledsoe

I Know if any group but like but any group that uses the threat of Force violence and coercion. So not every organization does that and so.

47:40.12

Max Shank

Um, is there any group where everybody does the same thing I think it's always about specialization.

47:48.78

mikebledsoe

It is about specialization but what I'm saying is what makes these organizations special is that they ah they rule by violence and a threat of violence coercion. These things that that's how they get people to comply.

48:25.26

Max Shank

Um, without nonviolently with like words instead of Swords basically.

48:27.50

mikebledsoe

With their rules. Well they use words. But if you disobey those words you will then meet you know.

48:46.80

Max Shank

Well, that's leverage right? That's that's really, um, how control works because if you if you ah if you don't follow the words and they just have to sword everybody to death. It's.. It's like not very good for anybody like now all the farmers are now all the farmers are.. It's kind of like a strike.. Basically I mean all these all these parallels within the symbolism of language I I have this idea that words have evolved basically the same as anything else.

49:25.76

mikebledsoe

It's not good for anybody. Yeah, so they got to use the there's ah.

50:01.92

Max Shank

In Nature longer sharper Claws Stronger Armor Camouflage Decoy Venom you know people fucking hurt each other with words all the time and only sometimes do they hurt.

50:25.80

mikebledsoe

And.

50:36.14

Max Shank

Ah, people with actual like sticks or weapons or something like that and sometimes they turn them on themselves right? We we fucking think Shitty things about ourselves we put ourselves through these I mean ah I guess I'm a fitness guy so we put ourselves through these like ball bursting workouts.

50:37.36

mikebledsoe

Yeah, they've gotten so good at can most of the time.

51:13.82

Max Shank

That are only harming us because we're just like so desperate. Um for some pie in the sky vision that we have I mean it's crazy how much language causes harm and self-harm. But anyway my point is like it's too inefficient. To go fucking hit everybody with the sword. It's way more efficient to just threaten the sword.

51:54.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the the the evolution has been that we use these words and so it was the words were simple and the sword was strong and then over time while the Swords gotten stronger. But the the words have become. People have gotten very clever lawyers are some of the most clever people on the planet ah politicians are basically they're just Lawyers. So These people are creating these words. Yeah, they create these words and you know, um, there are certain people.

52:40.40

Max Shank

Oh yeah.

52:52.18

Max Shank

Um, the word Warriors the word warriors.

53:10.96

mikebledsoe

Who are there's a very small population of people who are pretty much I think you and I fall in this category kind of like yeah you know those are just words and you want me to do this but I'm not going to and then you have the majority of the population that are like you're going to defy those words and.

53:44.18

Max Shank

Right.

53:46.84

mikebledsoe

And they completely freak out and they don't know what to do? They think that you're a bad person because you're ignoring these words. Um that somebody else put together and in order to try to control you so.

54:07.22

Max Shank

Well because otherwise like you are ruining their paradigm. You're destroying their sense of reality because they're like well I can't do that and I'm like actually there there are just consequences to everything you do you know that.

54:18.14

mikebledsoe

Totally destroying it.

54:35.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you can do anything you want. You can do a lot of things.

54:42.84

Max Shank

That's it you could do whatever there are consequences like if you tie a noose around your neck whack off in the closet. There's a much higher chance that you will die from hanging. But there's also a decent chance. You'll have an orgasm that's like None or so of the usual 1

55:20.40

mikebledsoe

There's otherwise to do that You hit me up on my private blog on on how to do that without choking yourself. But anyways.

55:22.40

Max Shank

So.

55:32.68

Max Shank

Fellas you hear that Mike is offering orgasm boosters free orgasm boosters. What kind of percentage can you offer increase 50% increase a 3 hold on.

55:40.64

mikebledsoe

Free orgasm boosters at least 50% now now I would say out. No no like 300 I mean yeah and yeah, with with just common common things you can pick up at the store.

56:07.68

Max Shank

Ah, 300% increase

56:19.18

Max Shank

Like cocaine. Ah.

56:19.76

mikebledsoe

Nothing you don't have to go see a drug dealer. But if you no, no, no like like over the counter things. But then um, yeah, over the counter and then um, you know if you want to get into the other I can guarantee like a None x but you know that's going to require some hard to get ahold of.

56:30.20

Max Shank

Over the counter.

56:55.60

Max Shank

Honestly I think ah I think I think this would be something that you you could probably do a one pager on this for our premium Inner Circle club.

56:57.88

mikebledsoe

Substances.

57:20.56

mikebledsoe

I Feel like this whole episode's going to be an inner Circle Club show. Ah you know this is the commercial This is this is actually it. This is this one. We're giving away for free. This is the one you get for free from now on the pre ship. This.

57:23.38

Max Shank

Like I would be interested in like a little that's all it is This is just for the this is this is it. We're gonna air this and and to be fair, we might be Fucked. We might be fucked because this might get us. Ah. Extradited or what's the excommunicated because of all the stuff we've said.

58:01.30

mikebledsoe

Well this is why I want everyone to go and get a ah podcasting 2.0 app on your phone instead of Spotify because Spotify itunes. They could just take us off anytime they want because some sjw employee gets pissed off.

58:24.12

Max Shank

Oh my God can you imagine? Holy God I Think that's I think the pendulum is swinging back I think people are craving uncensored Oh I Love it.

58:36.96

mikebledsoe

So ah. I think so I think so but not but not the employees of Apple and Spotify. They're gonna be the last ones you know and Twitter but I it will shake out it but we need. But.

59:00.98

Max Shank

Yeah, we'll we'll see how it all shakes out I mean ah Seasons change Seasons change.

59:19.58

mikebledsoe

Decentralization is what will force it and so using a podcasting 2.0 app is part of the decentralization movement. So I like ah podverse myself. So if you just go and download podverses. Our shit will never be taken off of that. But.

59:54.40

Max Shank

Bu ya.

59:59.20

mikebledsoe

But Spotify has taken down None I think over 70000 podcast episodes in the last year yeah based on the content. No now they remove certain content. They even pull down some of Rogan's content

01:00:12.90

Max Shank

Whoa Really I thought they were cool. Not cool. Bummer I Do know that by the way if there was ever something that. Ah.

01:00:35.00

mikebledsoe

But not all of it.

01:00:45.96

Max Shank

Was valuable but let's be able to say words other this is a core value. This is a core value here. Okay folks this is this. It's rooted in reality look. It's fine talkytackytacky ever Blah Blah Blah blah. But as soon as someone comes in with the stick.

01:00:53.40

mikebledsoe

Come on. Well this goes back to what you were just saying.

01:01:24.88

Max Shank

You got to like fucking face that reality and so if we can't resolve our differences with words. There's only None choice left and that's physical violence I think everybody should be versed in physical and verbal violence. Not necessarily so they can be violent toward other people. But so they can recognize it number None and defend it number None

01:02:07.86

mikebledsoe

Well I like that I like to Define violence as the person who initiates force so I would I would say ah be well versed in debate because ah or or diplomacy right? So like to me.

01:02:36.76

Max Shank

Right.

01:02:43.20

mikebledsoe

War is just an extension of Diplomacy You know we were like oh diplomacy failed I'm like no this is just we're still being diplomatic. It's just a very violent diplomacy and so the same thing with the words is you know we start off with disagreement. We're trying to work it out things escalate We can't.

01:03:06.64

Max Shank

Interesting.

01:03:17.88

Max Shank

Great.

01:03:20.60

mikebledsoe

Find agreement in the words because people aren't You're right, People are not trained in the ability to listen to understand and then communicate the wall just goes up and you've talked about rhetorical fallacies before the wall goes up and then now it just becomes a mudsling contest.

01:03:56.66

Max Shank

Um, yeah.

01:03:58.60

mikebledsoe

That that will result if that doesn't get resolved in some way it will result in physical force. This is why the None amendment's important because if only yeah and and because if only 1 group of people has access to violence.

01:04:13.74

Max Shank

The None and the second those are almost all that's important. But.

01:04:35.10

Max Shank

Um, oof because then you go.

01:04:37.56

mikebledsoe

Then then we're in big trouble which takes me back to the point I was making hang on the point I was making which is like the when I look at when I look at ah government. It's hard to tell the difference between government and the mom because they're basically saying give us. A certain amount of your profits give us a certain amount of your of your hard work and we'll make sure that your shop doesn't get burnt down. You know we'll make sure your kid doesn't get beat up in the alley and they're basically saying the mob is basically saying. Overtly, they're saying we'll protect you from other people. Yeah, covertly, they're saying pretty much if you don't pay us None of our thugs are going to come get you which is which is the same thing that happens with the Us government is they say.

01:05:50.12

Max Shank

It's called a protection ring. It's called a protection ring. It's been around for a long time.

01:06:09.36

Max Shank

Ah, right? yeah.

01:06:23.82

mikebledsoe

We're going to protect you from all these outside guys and we got police officers stationed in there. We're gonna protect you as long as you. But if you if you don't give us a None of your life then we're actually gonna come fuck you up and so that's the price of the club. Yeah tough shit. There's like no way out.

01:06:26.48

Max Shank

Move.

01:06:41.98

Max Shank

Right? That's the price of the club and if you don't like it well tough shit This is the only club in town. It's the only club in town. It's like ah you know there is a thing about power companies. You know when you have a single.

01:07:03.56

mikebledsoe

And so well hang on. So so so so when I started when I recognized this this extremely similar ah view of government and the mom.

01:07:16.98

Max Shank

Go go ahead? yeah.

01:07:38.98

mikebledsoe

And I just started looking at all these governments around the world as just mobs that are controlling different geographical locations by by which um are mainly dissected based on Language. So if the language changes that's where the border begins. When there's a different language because you can't control people anymore because they can't understand you and so ah government control happens and within the borders of language and then you basically just have you just have.

01:08:35.50

Max Shank

K case that's http://dciendocappassosenorexplicka me and espanio poque non anddo.

01:08:50.98

mikebledsoe

Exactly. So. So so when you start looking at the world as or the government as just mobsters that are ruling really large pieces of geography and they're all. You know, jocking for position. Everything makes a lot more sense like the Russia Ukraine thing makes way more sense if you just think about it as a couple of mobsters that are that are jocking for position and the United States has done a good job of like. United States has done an incredible job of being very strategic in the way that it's done things. It hasn't it hasn't necessarily ah won with brute force for instance with the Ukraine thing is if you think about mobsters are running Ukraine right now right. Because anyone who has a government is being There's a mob and so those mobsters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well the good the good mobsters of Ukraine are um, just you know the the us government is lending them. What None

01:10:50.92

Max Shank

No, but those are the good mobs. We like them. They're the good mobs.

01:11:18.20

mikebledsoe

Billion dollars a month or something like that that they're never going to be able to pay back all right? So if only someone would come tell me what to think? So so then ah.

01:11:22.22

Max Shank

Oh my God I Wish someone would tell me who the good guys are and who the bad guys are if only someone would come and let me know what to believe about this.

01:11:56.32

mikebledsoe

So then you got so the way I see it is the us government has done an incredible job at buying the people of Ukraine as slaves and so because they're under the control of the Ukraine mob the ukraine mob how are they going to pay back that money they can't pay back that money. So basically they're going to be in debt to the us and the Ukraine is the breadbasket of europe so they produce the the lion's share of the wheat and other things necessary for making a lot of food products and in Europe and so now. The way I see it is the us government. Everyone is everyone is going. You know? Yes for Ukraine I'm like I'm like the us government just enslaved the people of Ukraine and you cheered them along the whole way and is like yeah we are like you know and that is um, that's 0 comment on what. Putin's doing you know whatever you call him more criminal. Whatever the guy's not a good guy. The guy's not a good guy but but people miss that.

01:13:56.16

Max Shank

It's it's about relationships. It's about relations. It's about relationships. It's about relationships and it's about trying to understand what the connection is between those relationships and in order to really get it. You got to reduce the number of parties down, you got to put the words like none and None out of your mind and just say what is the relationship between these different entities or individuals and what you're saying about the us specifically is. They recognize the power of both words and swords because words, okay, nothing scales better than words because it requires no material transfer. It requires only a transfer of pressure waves basically on some level and and. Transfer of ah it's just it scales way easier than actual bullets and actual swords and and if you have both then then you're like King of the castle. Basically so we have crazy weapons and we also have.

01:15:38.90

mikebledsoe

Ah, especially with the internet and everything just repeats easily.

01:16:13.92

Max Shank

Ah, lawyers and bankers and politicians that use words the same way that we're using Bullets and missiles and shit like that and we have we have ah stuff that's happening behind closed doors I mean Okay, let's talk about language again just for a second because.

01:16:25.28

mikebledsoe

Totally.

01:16:50.54

Max Shank

Want to talk about the word conspiracy conspiracy happening all the time people are meeting in secret to discuss plans all the time we would have to be totally naive if we don't think that's going on basically everywhere like every every group is meeting in secret.

01:17:24.88

mikebledsoe

The Cia is ah is a series of conspiracies.

01:17:29.90

Max Shank

We meet in secret we meet? yeah and of course they can't tell everybody everything I mean how fucking schizophrenic do you have to be your level 1 clearance your level 10 clearance I'm a level 10 cia wizard. So I know like 90% of the secrets but only 10% of this I mean it's.

01:17:42.24

mikebledsoe

So it's a conspiracy. Yeah.

01:18:09.70

Max Shank

It's Insane. So ah, kind of tying it back to how we use language and use ideas bringing it back to reality Once again, just doing something with material objects that exist somewhat. Independently of Language. You know how you interact with a tree or the ground of course you have the word tree and ground in your mind but your movement and your creative expression through physical materials. Even if you don't think you have a knack for it. It's very grounding experience.

01:19:37.32

mikebledsoe

Back to physical materials. Yeah, well they? um well what's interesting is my friend Jesse Elder he he's been studying the law extensively the last couple years and um.

01:19:42.80

Max Shank

Um, that that's what I tried to bring us on back because.

01:20:17.64

mikebledsoe

Basically looking at like the foundation of law you know, not you know what are all these little laws that are floating around that are getting passed all the time and changing. But you know yeah, but like what is the the sole basis and we go back in history. What is law.

01:20:33.00

Max Shank

To contract. It's It's just a contract that's it.

01:20:52.36

mikebledsoe

You know how does it operate so he did that and if you can figure out the fundamental principles of how these things work a lot of things get real simple so he did that and one one of the it's what.

01:21:11.92

Max Shank

It's conditional phrases right? I mean I'm not trying to diminish but isn't it like it's conditional. Phrases. It's consequences like the code of Hamurabi was a system of laws but they are very simple if you steal. A woman then you get your eye plucked out and you have to marry her some shit like that. Basically and if you're talking about arbitration which is a little different than law. Basically you are just dealing with an arbitrur like a judge who is deciding.

01:21:45.68

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:22:20.32

Max Shank

Who's right when they present like the clay tablets or something like can you imagine being. Ah, you know an arbiter back then but that's what they would do so that guy gets to decide but you have it's just enforcing contracts I think and every every relationship you have.

01:22:22.72

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:43.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, that's what it comes down to.

01:22:59.30

Max Shank

Because a contract is oh gosh. It's ah it's a projected relationship. How about that using the words that we've been thinking about so a contract is a a relationship projection or a relative projection between one or more.

01:23:17.86

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

01:23:31.28

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're gonna do these things I'm gonna do these things if we don't follow through then it breaks down. There's the consequences.

01:23:39.44

Max Shank

Entities yeah, and it works with yourself too. It works with yourself too. You make a you make a to do list. Maybe you sign at the bottom so I'm going to do this by the end of today you made a contract with yourself. You break the contract but you're also the judge here and you go like what happened. You know should I should I go to jail should I be full of shame or something like that should I punish myself. Do I get 50 lashes? Yeah, um, but I think we do that.

01:24:15.46

mikebledsoe

Should I punish myself emotional jail ah, ah so so jet so Jesse started digging digging into like the principles of law. And None of the results that I've seen in his life is. He's become extremely analog. Ah he is like he he sees the matrix I mean when you look at I mean the law is the matrix and so ah, everything that.

01:24:55.98

Max Shank

Totally. Ah.

01:25:18.14

Max Shank

It's a matrix.

01:25:20.20

mikebledsoe

Yeah, it's a matrix I would I would say it's probably like based one of the base layers of the matrix and then um like the media sits on top of that. But um, he he's gone extremely analog like he's living. He's got twenty acres he's living out on it. He doesn't deal with crypto he. Ah, you know tries that work primarily in gold and silver and like getting he's getting very analog. He's using technology like he's installing a solar farm. He's doing. He's doing some things to harness technology but he's become very analog and.

01:26:28.14

Max Shank

Right.

01:26:37.76

mikebledsoe

What is valuable and so and what he values is analog and so in a world where right now so much of the value is digital and which is which is somewhat of a physical manifestation of something conceptual and so.

01:26:49.52

Max Shank

So true.

01:27:14.22

mikebledsoe

Because we're talking about Energy. Ah Bitcoin is just energy and because it requires energy from the sun whether it come in the form of solar oil. Whatever it is ah it it comes in the form of energy that's being exchanged so there is a physical component to it. But. Which is actually way more tangible than say the Us dollar which has ah which is primarily ruled by what whatever somebody thinks or a group of people think instead of being ruled by actual physical world laws and.

01:28:15.72

Max Shank

Um, that well money is its own like ah shared. It's actually a conspiracy so money is a human conspiracy just like language.

01:28:33.40

mikebledsoe

It's yeah well fiat currency would be yeah, say more.

01:28:53.50

Max Shank

That's that's it money is a conspiracy just like language I mean the fact that.

01:28:55.70

mikebledsoe

Some people some people understand I mean you're right? because there are very. There's a there is a handful of select people who make decisions in secret about the money supply.

01:29:23.52

Max Shank

Oh I mean just like it's not ah like a like okay so steak is not a human conspiracy like a dog still understands. What steak is it might know it by a different name like maybe steak for a dog is like.

01:29:49.14

mikebledsoe

Right.

01:29:58.00

Max Shank

Wolf Af or something like that I don't I don't know exactly what it's like for a dog but like money is and language are purely human conspiracies like we made all this stuff up because it's useful so they're useful lies. Essentially words are useful symbols so that we can.

01:30:09.82

mikebledsoe

I'll go ask my buddies dog.

01:30:35.78

Max Shank

Project these ideas ah into ah interchangeable parts Basically and that's what we're looking for with money is it's the ultimate interchangeable part because it's like ah an I O you that everybody agrees on it's a. Ah, accepted anywhere right? So it's money's like God It's if you believe in it it it is ah infinite Power. It's total potential and it's such a useful tool. There's no I can't.

01:31:31.92

mikebledsoe

Yeah.

01:31:49.52

Max Shank

It's so difficult for me to envision a society where we didn't have a way to exchange goods modularly. You know people talk about the fungibility or non-fungibility of token. Sometimes the fact that a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar is a dollar and I mean it did used to be backed by gold which was cool but let's not be too wistful over the glory days. But in any case. The fact that we have it and that we can change it and move it so quickly means that I can you know ah work under a bridge given hand jobs send it back to my scientist grandpa in Hungary and he can use that money. To build a nuclear fusion reactor or something like that right? That's that's incredible that you don't have to but based on my hungarian physicist ah grandfather I was thinking of him every time I gave a hand job under the bridge.

01:33:40.52

mikebledsoe

That's based on a true story folks.

01:34:04.94

Max Shank

I was just thinking this is going to be unlimited energy for everybody I'm not going to let you down pop pop anyway, ah, but but that's that's what I mean is like you you can turn hand jobs into cold fusion potentially and that is why money is cool. Ah, so we wouldn't have these computers and microphones the ubiquity of the cell phone like all this stuff was done because we were able to transfer this um potential of human action and it just it kind of reminds me of this funky idea I had. When I was none learning about like the coins and the cryptos and things like that and I thought it'd be cool to have something called like a handycoin that was ah just based off of the value that a person placed on like 1 hour of labor.

01:35:50.38

mikebledsoe

I Thought you were gonna say hand jobs but handicoin and a yeah.

01:35:59.34

Max Shank

No, not not not hand that would be even better. None coin equals one hj full stop. That's actually a better idea now that I think about anyway, but the whole idea was like you know you can put a posting on Craigslist or you can. Ah, go out to home depot and you can find like ah, a laborer who will do sometimes skilled sometimes unskilled. No no, no, no, but but but that's what that would be for is just for unskilled labor. Every hour is equal and so.

01:36:43.94

mikebledsoe

Um, are you are you saying that every hour is equal in value. No no okay.

01:37:05.52

mikebledsoe

Ah, so you create a caste system.

01:37:12.36

Max Shank

The value of that coin the value of that coin would be related to what someone is willing to do for an hour like 1 hour of unskilled labor. Ah, but at least it's tied to like.

01:37:37.54

mikebledsoe

Isn't that how just capitalism works.

01:37:50.30

Max Shank

The floor of ah one of of labor per hour right? It's like it's like it sets the floor which it is a value. Yeah, but it's so it's different. It's only correlated to ah.

01:37:51.24

mikebledsoe

So there's a minimum.

01:38:02.88

mikebledsoe

Sounds like a minimum wage.

01:38:23.40

Max Shank

Like someone actually doing real work I don't know like I said it's not a night. It's not an idea that I've taken over the finish line. Ah, but it's ah this idea that it needs to be tied to something and right now it's tied to our belief and that works.

01:38:32.00

mikebledsoe

I'm not sure I'm following.

01:39:02.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah I I think the problem that people have with money right now is that? Ah, there are a handful of people who are controlling how it flows so ah, not necessarily.

01:39:03.26

Max Shank

Weirdly enough it. It's not great, but it's okay like if.

01:39:29.48

Max Shank

Has that always been the case.

01:39:39.64

mikebledsoe

Not not to this degree I would say that. Um, so for instance when when the dollar is tied to gold money. Well I'm I'm talking about primarily money so like um so on 1 hand you have.

01:39:52.24

Max Shank

Are we talking about money or wealth or both and.

01:40:16.00

Max Shank

Um, like not.

01:40:17.52

mikebledsoe

And organization that decides. Ah how much the interest rates are going to be like what's what's the debt going to be worth and then you and then they also control the amount of money that's in the system. So those are like really big picture things. So so of when you're.

01:40:49.44

Max Shank

Oh yeah, big time.

01:40:56.00

mikebledsoe

When you're working with gold which you know all governments have inflated there even when it was gold. They did things like shave off the edges and you know there's ah until people figured it out and they lost faith in it. Yeah, they have so you can't fake it and so then um, so.

01:41:14.14

Max Shank

That's why those coins have ridges right? That's why they put the ridges on the coins. Ah.

01:41:31.34

mikebledsoe

The money supply and then the cost of debt is 2 major things that are that are employed big picture and then you have taxes so that I think the tax code is 176000 pages something like that. Ah, it might be a little bit maybe 76 maybe oh there. There's a.

01:41:56.40

Max Shank

I think maybe only 76 but but but but None like you that should be simple.

01:42:09.52

mikebledsoe

There's a ton of there's all, there's but there's basically all these rule the whole point in the tax code is to incentivize people under a certain type of behavior and it's it's.

01:42:32.34

Max Shank

And hide and hide what's actually happening and create as much of a smokescreen as possible for what's actually going on.

01:42:43.48

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's they they want to they want to confuse like the majority of people need to be confused about what's going on because if the majority of people knew exactly what was going on there'd be riots in the streets. But the.

01:43:07.80

Max Shank

We would sell a lot more guillotines if that were the case Guillotine sales. That's that's what I'm actually getting into right now you know pendulums and government swing I think we're like perfect time to invest in guillot in Guillotines I think ah.

01:43:28.34

mikebledsoe

Well, how let's look at the tax code I got to do this search on the tax code.

01:43:44.46

Max Shank

You know you can sell your ultimate Orgasm formula and then I'm going to sell guillotines for the coming revolutions.

01:43:53.44

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, we got figure I got to figure out how this tax code thing. Um all right. There's the myth of the 70000 page federal tax code.

01:44:10.78

Max Shank

It's really long.

01:44:19.60

Max Shank

It has to do with um like references to it because there are amendments to the tax code and there are cases that have modified how it's interpreted.

01:44:38.52

mikebledsoe

So the tax code has nearly tripled is it ah the tax code has nearly tripled and linked over the last thirty years um 70000 is not true. The tax code was only 20 so so it's it's. It's like triple of the None pages. So I think it's anyways thirty years ago is 2600? Oh no, none the tax code was only about 20. It's so funny and this blog says it's only None pages long. Um, yeah, but the point so.

01:45:47.60

Max Shank

Ah, it shouldn't even be 2600 words long fuckers. Let alone pages.

01:45:50.40

mikebledsoe

So um, yeah, so the so the so you've got a small group of people controlling the supply of the money you got a small group of people controlling the ah cost of the debt and then you have a small I think between. Ah, the senate the congress and all the the the the top government I think is around None and something like None something people so None something people are controlling 350000000 people.

01:46:55.92

Max Shank

It's leverage.

01:47:07.30

mikebledsoe

With a 2600 page tax code that incentivizes certain types of purchases disincentivizes other types of purchases. Um it ah it does it does really incentivize investing in real estate which is interesting because you can.

01:47:21.92

Max Shank

Right.

01:47:35.14

Max Shank

Well let's also look at this because it's not ah like those politicians are only like fabricating these ideas in their own mind. They're having people come in and say like hey we're this ah business that does one ah 0 every month.

01:48:07.94

mikebledsoe

These politicians don't write these laws. These laws are being brought to them.

01:48:14.22

Max Shank

And and and right and like hey Joe blow politician um, you know I was thinking. Ah you know you could you could really help us out. Ah, but you know I don't want you to work too hard. So I I went I went ahead and prepared the law for you.

01:48:49.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, which the law the which the law is like 10000 pages long. There's no way who the fuck reads those things. No one reads that shit.

01:48:52.82

Max Shank

I went ahead and had my lawyers prepare this law for you and I I left this spot at the it's about 10000 pages I sent a copy to all your colleagues already I put a place here for you to sign your name at the bottom and I think it's a really really good idea for you to do this.

01:49:27.48

mikebledsoe

And and we'll we'll pay your son like $10000000 a year for advisory.

01:49:32.46

Max Shank

And because like power. Oh dude that guy is that guy is fucking set but you know Hidden hidden in that fucking quagmire of verbal violence in that fucking law that's been written is. How um competition and free market is prevented right? It's not like going to be awesome for everybody. Ah, it's gone too far but it's just because we have set up the rules of the game.

01:50:24.98

mikebledsoe

Yep.

01:50:46.98

Max Shank

To allow for too much of ah human error. Basically.

01:50:49.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and so this is where um so we have to believe in the money I'm talking about belief which means you got to trust it right? And so we're at a in my lifetime we're at a record breaking low of trust in.

01:51:10.16

Max Shank

Yeah.

01:51:28.32

mikebledsoe

Government or the record breaking low and trust in media I think that in since the emergence of crypto there has been a trickling of people in droves that don't trust the money that that trust ah 1 of the things that web 3

01:51:59.64

Max Shank

A.

01:52:07.38

mikebledsoe

Really ah has brought about is it requires less trust because you can't fuck with it like it doesn't matter how much somebody wants to change something. It's not humanly possible to change some of these rules and how these crypto.

01:52:46.54

Max Shank

Question for you is web 3 basically trying to use blockchain technology to store web data and provide server. Ah for websites.

01:52:47.00

mikebledsoe

Cryptos work. Yeah.

01:53:13.50

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's that's that's one that's so it's a ledger well blockchain is just a really advanced ledger system that's automatically updated in decentralized web 3 in blockchain everyone in the same.

01:53:23.66

Max Shank

It's like decentralized web servers.

01:53:35.48

Max Shank

No, but web 3 I'm asking. Okay, I'm okay.

01:53:51.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah, the the way I understand it. It's it's just web 3 is kind of you say blockchain and people get a little confused and go web 3 and they go oh like you know web one was we can send information from computer to computer web two was we have html and everything's visually we have visual graphics and. And we can. There's clickable things and and then social media and then Web 3 is blockchain mother of all demos.

01:54:39.84

Max Shank

You should see the mother look up the mother of all demos sometime it shows what it's fucking great I think it was in the 60 s we were able to do like ah word documents and video chat and all kinds of shit in like the 60 s.

01:55:14.74

mikebledsoe

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:19.48

Max Shank

Called the mother of all demos um wild what was capable way back then and then that wasn't ubiquitous for people that wasn't common for people until forty years later something like that not nuts.

01:55:41.10

mikebledsoe

Right? Yeah, there's that's it's fascinating. Um.

01:55:54.74

Max Shank

So that's the leverage though is how fast we can communicate a message a lot of ah censorship speaking of like the None amendment kind of.

01:56:06.90

mikebledsoe

Well, there's also you not just how fast can you communicate a message but can it actually get through the noise. How loud how loud is your message and how well received is it because there's there's a there's a level of skill that's involved in being heard.

01:56:21.14

Max Shank

Yeah, well and. Absolutely no question I mean I think that's why stand-up comedy is one of those places where the rubber meets the road on free speech a little bit because if you're allowed to say anything as long as it's a joke. Then you can still at least get that message into people's minds without having ah it be controlled and that's ultimately what drives a population if if suddenly it was the law like so that's that's what's kind of interesting. You know I don't think it's good to have. Like a lot of power in the hands of a few people. It's back to leverage same thing as a hammer right? It's physical leverage in different ways. Um, but if they suddenly made it like the law to kill None puppy every week like let's just say that became the law people would not do that.

01:58:27.84

mikebledsoe

Well, it's got to be Ah, it's got to be done in small bits I mean all right? So this may actually happen. Yeah this this may actually happen right? So they So there's the media's put out the yeah, the media has put out some notices that.

01:58:29.80

Max Shank

Because the collective consciousness of whether that's okay or not.

01:58:44.64

Max Shank

You're like talking Boiling Boiling Frog right? Yeah yeah, the puppy killing oh shit, you know what you're right? The puppy flew.

01:59:07.84

mikebledsoe

You know some people are getting getting. Ah yeah, they're getting Well they're getting coronavirus they're It's like oh statistically we find that people who are around dogs more get coronavirus. Whatever.

01:59:17.52

Max Shank

Copy flu.

01:59:27.40

Max Shank

Oh God Oh don't don't even put this out. It's so easily could happen. You could get people to kill puppies as long as you said puppies increased the no fucking way. Wow.

01:59:35.98

mikebledsoe

So so here's the thing there are cities in China where they've gone in and killed all the dogs. Yeah, and so it's already happened and so um, which.

02:00:04.80

Max Shank

Heavy heavy.

02:00:12.90

mikebledsoe

When we think about that happening in China we go. Yeah that's totally believable because they're under some weird you know they're they're under some like heavy mind control. But I think that people I think americans give themselves way too much credit on how ah how little. They they think they they're being exposed and are subject to way less propaganda I would say it's less propagandized in the United States like we're not as susceptible because there's so much competing information where there's not as much competition for information there. But the propaganda is real.

02:01:04.92

Max Shank

Overt. It's just yeah, ah.

02:01:26.32

mikebledsoe

And so all you gotta do? It's been proven in the last two years all you gotta do is make people think that they're gonna die if they don't do this thing and they'll fucking. Do it. They'll strap 3 masks on they'll put an experimental vaccine in their body and they'll they'll ah make statements like.

02:01:56.76

Max Shank

Oh god we just got flagged. That's us we're done. He's in Texas go get him I was never here. Ah.

02:02:01.54

mikebledsoe

We should throw people. We're done off Spotify. Ah I'm in Texas I'm in Texas good luck. So yeah, um.

02:02:34.34

Max Shank

Oh my gosh. So it's all it really is it all comes down to force right? It all comes down to how much of an impact you can make with words or with stuff it all comes and it's leverage.

02:02:52.90

mikebledsoe

Yeah, because with the words you can still like if if ah, a small group of people can convince the large group of people that I'm a bad guy. They don't even have to get their hands dirty and so they use mind control to create violence.

02:03:21.18

Max Shank

Totally, you're separated from it.

02:03:32.34

mikebledsoe

And that's another thing we've witnessed big time in the last two years is they don't have to fucking create violence. They'll all they got to do is leverage some media to get people really hot and bothered then put.

02:03:50.38

Max Shank

Nobody wants to get their hands dirty.

02:04:08.20

mikebledsoe

Certain Spokes holes out there to to tell people how they should think what they should think and next thing you know things are burning. Yeah.

02:04:18.56

Max Shank

Hurt people hurt people right? hurt people hurt people. Ah and the more removed you are from the impact the easier it is like imagine if ah. Kind of like in game of thrones. The one who passes the sentence or the one who passes the sentence should carry it out like if you're gonna sentence a guide to death. Yeah, that was a stark thing. Yeah, well, it's cause it's like really warm weather and there's.

02:05:02.80

mikebledsoe

Yeah I mean that that was ah and ah that was a stark thing as the the northerners believed in that but you know you go to the South a bunch of soft pussies.

02:05:32.40

Max Shank

Ah titties and asses everywhere on the beach like I I don't blame them I get it like I I wouldn't be too like I wouldn't be too Stern with duty if the beach was like full of naked chicks and coconuts like what are we fighting for.

02:05:34.12

mikebledsoe

Teddy's everywhere I I.

02:06:07.20

Max Shank

There's food and titties everywhere. Ah but I think that idea of if you're going to be the one who passes the sentence you should carry it out the corollary or the inverse of that is if you can pass judgment.

02:06:06.20

mikebledsoe

Ah, ah.

02:06:44.66

Max Shank

And be totally removed from the action if you can tell a guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to tell another guy to take a drone to this other guy so that guy can drone this fucking stranger to him like he doesn't know who it is. He doesn't Care. You're not going to even feel that. But if imagine if you had to personally choke every person that you wanted to kill that would be a really different type of connection.

02:07:27.16

mikebledsoe

Yeah, well, it's it's well it's this disconnection from responsibility on both ends, you've got the guy passing the sentence who's disconnected from the reality of what it takes to do that and then the person who's executing can just say.

02:07:45.32

Max Shank

Totally.

02:08:03.82

mikebledsoe

You know I'm just following orders but at the end of the day who but eat.

02:08:09.54

Max Shank

Ah, oh God there's a phrase I fuss just following all us now that's not fair. That's not fair that is not a cool thing to do what I just did because it's not like the germans.

02:08:29.74

mikebledsoe

A.

02:08:38.36

Max Shank

Are the only people who have done any horrible shit that is so unfair of me. The only reason that we use them as the poster boy. The only reason we use them as the poster boy is they just happen to target the group who is best at marketing and that's why that story is the most popular.

02:08:48.26

mikebledsoe

Oh I'll I'll say this.

02:09:12.80

mikebledsoe

Well now now you're now you're gonna now you're really stepping in it.

02:09:16.64

Max Shank

Of all the evil stories. Oh what Jews are bad at marketing mike.

02:09:33.10

mikebledsoe

Um, you're right? Um, yeah, there there's there's there's.

02:09:37.26

Max Shank

So some of my best friends in the world are Jews they're usually very smart. They're usually financially sound. They're usually pretty good at business I mean I hate to generalize.

02:09:52.32

mikebledsoe

Yeah, there's there's plenty of groups of people. Yeah, there's plenty of groups of people that have been exterminated and and more more mass that we're not nearly as good at marketing you right? Um, and but yeah, that's that's well.

02:10:13.32

Max Shank

Totally.

02:10:25.92

mikebledsoe

We have We have police officers and just ah, you know make it fair. We have police officers that are doing no knock warrants but are serving no knock warrants ah busting people for drugs that are not hurting anybody and and it harmed a fucking soul and.

02:10:55.82

Max Shank

Oh god.

02:11:04.62

mikebledsoe

There are really egregious things happening I mean your domain your your where you live is a sacred place. It is yeah 1 time out your house. But.

02:11:09.68

Max Shank

Totally.

02:11:23.50

Max Shank

I Live in fantasy Land I live in Fanta No No I mean literally like my house and my sense of the world is basically fantasy land because all this horrible Shit. We're talking about I Actually don't have to see most of it but there are slaves. In the world there. There are horrible things. There are that that's wild. How much did it cost I'm just kidding I'm just kidding.

02:12:00.74

mikebledsoe

Yeah I've seen I've seen I've seen Slavery Firsthand I I was shocked. Yeah oh I I What the slaves. Um.

02:12:35.26

Max Shank

I assume you would have gotten 1 Okay.

02:12:39.18

mikebledsoe

Now we we ended up being a rescue.

02:12:51.20

Max Shank

You mean I just thought of like you know you adopt a dog you like rescue a dog versus you buy 1 at the breeder. That's what I thought you went for some.

02:13:04.00

mikebledsoe

No, no, no, no, we we were. We were coming up I was in the navy we were coming up on what looked like a ship in distress and it was full of slaves being traded from Somalia to Yemen and so ah so that shit's that shit's.

02:13:26.00

Max Shank

Good God See That's what I'm talking about that stuff's happening all the time. Yeah, we're divorced from that reality and in some ways that's good because how much shit can you really pay attention to should I Really? okay.

02:13:41.22

mikebledsoe

Shit's happening all time. It's real. We just we just happen to come across them. Yeah.

02:14:05.86

Max Shank

Like I'm I'm not nice or bad I'm just whatever I am basically but should I really concern myself with with what's going on in like the Ivory coast right now or something like that when I could have like I mean.

02:14:28.22

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:14:40.66

Max Shank

I got None of room to improve my own life. The last thing I need to do is put my attention somewhere where I can't have any impact at all. That's true for so many of us.

02:14:41.76

mikebledsoe

Well.

02:14:56.62

mikebledsoe

But I agree with the the problem is is we people care so much about something that's happened in Ukraine but don't care about what's happening in other countries that well I would say in other countries and so what people aren't realizing is like look if you want to have like.

02:15:17.60

Max Shank

Um, in their own life in their own life. Oh yeah.

02:15:36.94

mikebledsoe

I've taken this on I like look I I do believe I I want to be exposed I want to be exposed to the reality of death I want to be exposed to the reality of the most atrocious things that are happening I want to know that those things are happening and so because I I think it's good I think it's good to. To be aware that these things are happening where people get in trouble is they aren't able to look at everything equally they're not able to look out and go oh there's these atrocities over here and there's atrocities over here. They're looking at the atrocities in Ukraine. They're not looking at the atrocities in and.

02:16:15.54

Max Shank

A.

02:16:50.38

mikebledsoe

In some places in Africa or the Middle East where we're bombing the shit out of people and and so if you're only focused on 1 atrocity and you're not willing to look at another.

02:16:54.80

Max Shank

Um, yes, totally.

02:17:18.15

mikebledsoe

You're not actually having an expanded view of reality you're being controlled by the media.

02:17:22.83

Max Shank

And you can't prioritize and you can't prioritize. It comes back to matter because if you think like whatever they say matters today matters most to you then you're just going to be spinning your wheels forever. You're like. Oh my god I'm just feeling so banged up about this thing. Oh this new thing I'm sad about and trannie's this and can we play sports and are you black like all this kind of stuff. It's like who gives a fuck like this is this this is the mind of a schizophrenic person. But if you're not connected.

02:18:17.76

mikebledsoe

Yeah, we have global schizophrenia.

02:18:28.58

Max Shank

Yeah, but how could you evaluate with how could you evaluate what matters most to you in any given moment if you're being fed this idea and buying it hook line and sinker that this new thing you just heard of suddenly matters the most and when you realize how many things you could care about you. I think you'll eventually come back to what can I do right now within my own life and then as far as like policy is concerned. There's only 2 things that matter and that's Authority who's in charge and jurisdiction when are they in charge.

02:19:40.72

mikebledsoe

Neither one of those things seem to be matter to me neither one of those things seem to be matter to me.

02:19:42.25

Max Shank

And that's it. What's that. But for policy that that's the only thing that does matter that's correct that is correct. That's correct hey look.

02:19:56.72

mikebledsoe

But it's not matter. It's just words.

02:20:20.38

Max Shank

Words can matter and words matter to you and they do matter to me but you can choose.

02:20:30.86

mikebledsoe

But they don't matter as much as matter I just want to get that point across. Yeah, they're just 1 step from matter I mean words are just metaphor for matter. So.

02:20:39.24

Max Shank

Certainly not how could they so anyway back Okay, fuck it I I go the other way I say words matter a lot I say words will fucking transform words are the pattern.

02:21:03.14

mikebledsoe

I.

02:21:18.94

Max Shank

That is going to change your matter. Okay, so when you when you well look. Let's take black lives matter for a example and I got something to say about this there. It is I said everything I can say.

02:21:19.18

mikebledsoe

I Agree it's great at manipulating matter.

02:21:36.26

mikebledsoe

Oh that's good 1

02:21:57.20

Max Shank

Ah, no, no, but like all kidding aside this is this is like a ah weird racist idea like the only thing we should all want is for everybody to be treated Well man woman gay straight black white. Not purple people fuck those people but any anyone like normal colored we should treat the same so it it kind of like look I don't want to shit on anyone's cupcake either? Okay, but do we have like a national women's women's day or something like that. We we have these weird celebrations We have.

02:22:46.94

mikebledsoe

Um, I think you do.

02:23:04.90

Max Shank

Pride month and that's ah, that's a weird one like I I think being gay is really awesome.

02:23:12.98

mikebledsoe

Elon Elon Musk made a really good ah a controversial tweet. Basically he's pointing out how all these companies just all the sudden are are fucking leveraging and this this idea they don't give him a fuck.

02:23:31.40

Max Shank

Um, Oh yeah, well your I your identity is getting hijacked and ah worst off I mean look I think from my own direct Experience. Nothing has fucked me up as bad as my own pride. So. So so so it's like basically like volunteering to ruin someone's life for a whole month. It's like hey you know that deadly sin that we're all desperately trying to avoid. We think? ah. You would enjoy a whole month straight of it. No homosexuality is awesome. It looks really fun. In fact, I've never seen anyone who looked like they were having a better time than a couple of gay guys at a gay party right? Ah, that's that's.

02:24:51.30

mikebledsoe

He's talking about pride folks not homosexuality.

02:25:13.28

mikebledsoe

I agree I I'm I'm jealous I'm jealous.

02:25:24.40

Max Shank

Fully and that's fully uninhibited and I think ah you know the old school gays and trannies. They would not want to control language about what's going on like I I like the the like old school trannies. From like the 70 s and eighty s who were like really buff black dudes and who were like god damn I look fine and address and but but that's the old school type what I'm saying is these these bitches were wise you know and they were tough and if someone.

02:26:07.82

mikebledsoe

They're still around I've been I've been to the club. Yeah.

02:26:32.12

Max Shank

Was like you're not a real woman. They would be like suck my dick and then they would be like you know, brassy and tough and they would risk their lives to go dance in like ah a tranny Speakeay and I I respect that but this whole like you gotta. You got to call me this or you got to call me that or I'm going to call dad and they're going to hit you with a stick. It's like that sucks we need. We need these old school trannies to talk some sense into them about free speech because there's no reason that that should be but there's no reason that there.

02:27:31.94

mikebledsoe

Now now we're getting kicked off Spotify. Ah.

02:27:47.34

Max Shank

Okay, like those people also look fun like I think that's great, but this whole idea that we should treat any person different because of how they want to like mutilate their body or enhance it like I mean fake fake boobs Totally fine cut your dick off not fine I think they're both fine.

02:28:10.22

mikebledsoe

Well well.

02:28:22.56

mikebledsoe

I I think.

02:28:26.82

Max Shank

Personally, but I think any time you want to control the language of other people you have a mental disorder. Basically.

02:28:39.40

mikebledsoe

Yeah, and and you're it is someone trying to force other people to participate in their identity and that is that's insane like was it a.

02:28:59.20

Max Shank

Right? That's like forcing someone to come to your party hey hey I'm throwing a party Friday I don't want to go. You're coming.

02:29:18.60

mikebledsoe

Yeah, you're racist if you don't come and I'm gonna call your boss and they're gonna fire you.

02:29:32.68

Max Shank

Ah, ah oh God pride go before a fall pride Pride's pride is not something that you really want to like emphasize in your life I think being open being able to express yourself.

02:29:36.64

mikebledsoe

It's like no I was well from time for myself.

02:29:46.88

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:30:10.18

Max Shank

Very good. It's just you know these words do influence our matter quite a lot. So this idea. Ah this idea that we yeah okay ah I don't know like I'm I'm so skeptical about joining groups. Anyway.

02:30:18.34

mikebledsoe

Bring here, bring it back up mic up. It keeps falling.

02:30:46.84

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah.

02:30:48.82

Max Shank

As you know, but like you lose you lose so much of ah that groundedness and reality when you're like I'm on team ah Republican or I'm on Team Trans or I'm on team Black I mean I think if I could be on team black that would be pretty cool though. In in my life. Black people were much cooler better at dancing I feel like I would get a lot of street cred if I was on team black actually as as a white guy but I don't think people should be ah I don't know forced to whatever other people's ah.

02:31:39.64

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:31:59.42

mikebledsoe

Yeah, yeah I mean I think we you and I both just believe people should leave each other alone and some people are just nosy and and controlling. Yeah.

02:32:04.18

Max Shank

Lives.

02:32:16.30

Max Shank

Um, what a novel concept what a novel concept. So what are we trying to do here mike has this been our None secret episode is that what ah has gone on here.

02:32:35.00

mikebledsoe

Ah, yeah, so this is ah you just got a taste of what happens during most pre-shows. Ah, although we went a little.

02:32:59.70

Max Shank

Max and Mike Raw

02:33:03.86

mikebledsoe

Um, that's definitely a porno. Um well.

02:33:15.44

Max Shank

Ah, at least we already have 1 filmed hey oh.

02:33:25.62

mikebledsoe

Ah, so um, say yeah, we're playing around with the idea. Maybe we'll do ah we tend to talk about 20 minutes we tend to talk about for about 20 minutes before we do shows and yeah ill I'll gonna talk to my tech team and see what.

02:33:41.88

Max Shank

We'll do a little pre-show.

02:34:03.62

mikebledsoe

And marketing teams see what they think cause I can't do anything would like some feedback from their audience. What I'm thinking right? now is maybe a pay what you want ah membership to get yeah, come get in the club hear The pre-show get some of the raw conversations that ah.

02:34:09.62

Max Shank

Let's get some feedback from the audience though too Huh I Want to. I Like it to join the club.

02:34:38.52

Max Shank

Ah.

02:34:40.46

mikebledsoe

Come about and also witness the how we come up with the idea of what we're gonna do for the show that day So there's there's a lot. There's so many things that we discussed before the show starts that I wish was recorded that doesn't necessarily fall in line with the rest of the show but is still extremely valuable.

02:34:50.20

Max Shank

Um, I mean we could even do like a. Yeah, yeah, it'd be cool to give people a chance to participate too like maybe they could ah it depends like we could. Ah. Plug them into the call we could do like a live tweeting thing for them or like a little. Oh. No I mean we can just like um, get them involved. Ah.

02:35:36.12

mikebledsoe

I Don't think we can live stream out of our current system.

02:35:57.38

mikebledsoe

How would you like to be involved. That's it showing the name. Maybe we could do it. We could do it like a telegram group. We could do I don't fucking know and I say I'm gonna talk to my tech my tech and marketing team are good to talk to because I could tell them what we and then they.

02:36:06.68

Max Shank

Yeah, how would you like to be involved That's ah that's a good question like what would you like us to cover. Yeah I like these ah more human interactions.

02:36:36.32

mikebledsoe

Um, like hey there's what we're thinking about doing and they'll come back and say oh you should you could set it up like this this and this these guys look I'm 40 these guys are in their 30 s early 30 s they.

02:36:40.28

Max Shank

Yeah.

02:36:51.24

Max Shank

Age card look at that folks. He's trying to get clout by look how old I am look how fucking old I am what a thing to brag about you son of a bitch.

02:37:07.26

mikebledsoe

Oh humble brag Humble brack. No, but the the ah the all these guy I now I don't know that's that's not what I'm saying at all is I don't keep up with the shit that's popular right now I don't know what technology is out there.

02:37:24.30

Max Shank

I'm so old that I got smarter than you.

02:37:35.80

Max Shank

Um, that's.

02:37:45.48

mikebledsoe

Um, like I want to do this and then they tell me a dozen ways to do it some of which I are like Wow you can do that now. So that's why it's help talk to them now.

02:37:58.34

Max Shank

Yeah, let's talk about widgets next time, Let's talk about our favorite ah tech stuff.

02:38:11.60

mikebledsoe

We never. We never talk about the thing in the next show that we think we might talk about in the previous show I think so all right? we end it there give us your feedback if you want to reach me directly just hit me up on Instagram Mike Underscore Bloodso and now.

02:38:23.12

Max Shank

I Think we're going to talk about things on the next show it' going to happen.

02:38:50.70

mikebledsoe

And then you want them to do any hoops you want people to jump through max.

02:38:56.42

Max Shank

Ah, well thanks for tuning in my name is max shank. You can find me at http://maxshank.com and I hope you have a lovely rest of your day.