The Bloom Effect with Cassie Kellner

“You don’t have to cancel friendships. You can work it out if both people want to solve it.”

In this heartfelt and unfiltered episode, host Cassie Kellner sits down with lifelong friend Devin Lombardi for a conversation 40 years in the making. From kindergarten to motherhood, trauma to therapy, and everything in between, Cassie and Devin open up about what it really takes to sustain a friendship through every season of life.

They talk about growing up in a small town, navigating grief and change, setting boundaries, and doing the work, individually and together, to build something that lasts. It’s honest, funny, emotional, and deeply relatable for anyone who’s ever loved a friend like family.

We talk about:
→ The real meaning of sisterhood and showing up through change
→ How shared experiences can strengthen lifelong bonds
→ The power of self-reflection and therapy in friendship
→ Why laughter, honesty, and forgiveness keep relationships thriving

Sponsor Spotlight
This episode is brought to you by ISORetract, the gold standard in comfort and isolation. Designed by orthodontic professionals, ISORetract eliminates the need for cotton rolls, sharp corners, and constant adjustments. The built-in suction keeps the field dry and clear, making bondings faster, easier, and more comfortable for your patients.

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About Devin Lombardi
Devin Lombardi is a California native, wife, mother, and lifelong friend whose story reminds us that growth, laughter, and vulnerability can coexist. Her friendship with Cassie spans four decades — from playgrounds and heartbreaks to weddings, babies, and healing — proving that when women show up for each other, they create the kind of connection that stands the test of time.

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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome + sponsor message
01:22 Kindergarten beginnings + lifelong friendship
05:00 Growing up in Colusa + early memories
09:10 Shared trauma + how it shaped connection
13:40 Grief, growth + protecting each other through pain
18:00 The break, the work, and the reconnection
27:00 Therapy, self-reflection + setting boundaries
36:30 Choosing friendship again and again
45:00 Laughter, motherhood + soul-level friendship
53:00 Rapid-fire questions + heartwarming finale

Topics we explore in this episode include:
female friendship, lifelong connection, personal growth, emotional healing, boundaries in relationships, small-town life, leadership through empathy, gratitude and growth

“You’re not aging, you’re maturing. And that means becoming more of something, not less.”

In this inspiring reunion episode, host Cassie Kellner welcomes back her longtime friend and collaborator, Lindsay Quinn, founder of Heartwise Collective. From their early days side by side in a high-standard San Diego ortho practice to building their own thriving companies, Cassie and Lindsay share the lessons, pivots, and leadership moves that continue to shape their work and lives today.

They talk about how investing in yourself changes your business, what it really means to evolve as a leader, and why their new collaboration — The Ortho Society — is the meeting they’ve always wished existed. You’ll hear stories of growth, grit, and full-circle moments as they announce an exclusive two-day experience for orthodontists and their leaders in beautiful San Diego, May 2026.

We talk about:
→ How AI and automation are reshaping modern ortho practices
→ The power of investing in yourself and betting on your growth
→ Why maturity (not age) defines great leadership
→ What it takes to evolve your systems, your mindset, and your team
→ The story behind The Ortho Society and how it’s changing the game

Sponsor Spotlight
This episode is brought to you by ISORetract, the gold standard in comfort and isolation. Designed by orthodontic professionals, ISORetract eliminates the need for cotton rolls, sharp corners, and constant adjustments. The built-in suction keeps the field dry and clear, making bondings faster, easier, and more comfortable for your patients.

✨ Bloom Effect listeners get 10% off with code BLOOM-10 at isoretract.com. Trust us, you’ll wonder how you ever practiced without it.

About Lindsay Quinn
Lindsay Quinn is the founder of Heartwise Collective, an orthodontic consulting firm helping practices align their systems, leadership, and operations. With more than two decades in the industry, she’s known for transforming operational chaos into streamlined clarity through efficient workflows, conscious team development, and modern tools from AI systems built for orthodontic teams to astrology-based team workshops that turn even skeptics into believers. She partners with growth-minded practices ready to lead better, collect more, and finally feel in control of their business.

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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome + sponsor message
01:22 Catching up with Lindsay Quinn
03:30 The conversation that reframed aging vs. maturing
07:15 How AI and automation are transforming ortho practices
11:45 What makes “your AI show” — and how to fix it
15:50 Why maturity, not age, drives true leadership
19:30 Investing in yourself + evolving your mindset
23:40 How The Ortho Society came to life
27:50 What makes this experience different from any other meeting
31:45 Building systems, dashboards + automations in real time
36:00 Leadership growth, personal expansion + next steps

Topics we explore in this episode include:
orthodontic consulting, leadership development, AI and automation in orthodontics, practice systems and dashboards, The Ortho Society, orthodontic team culture, leadership growth, mature mindset, practice efficiency, orthodontic business strategy

“You’re never going to know unless you just do it.”

In this lively and heartwarming episode, host Cassie Kellner sits down with her niece, Jillian Locvich, to talk about growth, grit, and what it really means to show up. From starting her career in the middle of the pandemic to leading a thriving ortho team by 25, Jillian shares how curiosity, consistency, and coachability helped her break the mold and redefine what Gen Z leadership looks like in dentistry.

Cassie and Jillian unpack generational stereotypes, lessons learned chairside, and how mindset, not age, sets the tone for success. This episode is equal parts real talk, laughter, and inspiration for anyone building their career, mentoring the next generation, or learning to “do it, lady.”

We talk about:
→ Jumping into dentistry during the height of COVID
→ How mentorship and mindset shape early success
→ The myths and truths about Gen Z in the workplace
→ Why showing up and staying coachable changes everything

Sponsor Spotlight
This episode is brought to you by ISORetract, the gold standard in comfort and isolation. Designed by orthodontic professionals, ISORetract eliminates the need for cotton rolls, sharp corners, and constant adjustments. The built-in suction keeps the field dry and clear, making bondings faster, easier, and more comfortable for your patients.

✨ Bloom Effect listeners get 10% off with code BLOOM-10 at isoretract.com. Trust us, you’ll wonder how you ever practiced without it.

About Jillian Locvich
Jillian Locvich, RDA, is a lead orthodontic assistant whose journey from general dentistry to orthodontics is proof that hard work and heart go hand in hand. Known for her positivity, precision, and leadership, she represents the next generation of dental professionals redefining growth, gratitude, and grit in the field.

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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome + sponsor message
01:21 Meet Jillian Locvich + how her journey began
05:10 From general dentistry to orthodontics
09:25 Gen Z stereotypes and realities in the workplace
13:40 Mindset, mentorship + showing up fully
18:00 What leadership looks like at 25
22:45 Being coachable + building trust on the team
27:15 Advice for the next generation of assistants
31:00 Rapid-fire fun + final reflections

Topics we explore in this episode include:
generational leadership, orthodontic team culture, Gen Z in the workplace, career growth in dentistry, mindset and motivation, leadership development, practice culture, coachable teams!

“Gratitude changes everything. It turns what we have into enough.”

In this heartfelt solo episode, host Cassie Kellner takes a pause from the usual leadership conversations to reflect on gratitude — the unseen force that fuels connection, culture, and growth. With November marking her birthday month and a season of thankfulness, Cassie shares personal stories, lessons, and gentle reminders about the power of appreciation in life and leadership.

You’ll hear reflections on friendship, mentorship, and family — the people who shape who we are and remind us that we don’t bloom alone. Cassie also shares a leadership challenge to help you bring gratitude into your daily practice and personal life.

We talk about:
→ How gratitude strengthens leadership and team culture
→ Why appreciation builds deeper trust and connection
→ The difference between recognition and true gratitude
→ Simple ways to lead and live from thankfulness

Sponsor Spotlight
This episode is brought to you by ISORetract, the gold standard in comfort and isolation. Designed by orthodontic professionals, ISORetract eliminates the need for cotton rolls, sharp corners, and constant adjustments. The built-in suction keeps the field dry and clear, making bondings faster, easier, and more comfortable for your patients.

✨ Bloom Effect listeners get 10% off with code BLOOM-10 at isoretract.com.
Trust us, you’ll wonder how you ever practiced without it.

About Cassie Kellner
Cassie Kellner is the founder of Everbloom and host of The Bloom Effect. A former chairside assistant turned team coach, she’s spent more than 20 years helping orthodontic teams grow from the inside out—building strong cultures rooted in purpose, gratitude, and connection.

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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome + sponsor message
02:00 Slowing down and finding gratitude
05:15 How people shape our growth
10:40 Gratitude in leadership and culture
16:25 Expressing appreciation out loud
22:10 How thankfulness transforms team dynamics
27:35 A challenge for you this week
31:00 Final reflections + gratitude for listeners

Topics we explore in this episode include:
leadership and gratitude, practice culture, appreciation in teams, emotional intelligence, connection-driven leadership, orthodontic growth, mindfulness in business, personal development

“It's a miracle we're here.”

For Dr. Emily Taing Watson, orthodontics is more than a career — it’s a reflection of resilience, gratitude, and legacy. The proud daughter of Cambodian refugees who survived the Khmer Rouge regime, Dr. Watson’s journey is rooted in the lessons of strength, sacrifice, and faith passed down from her parents.

In this heartfelt episode, Dr. Watson opens up about her new book, Roots of Resilience: Lessons in Courage, Family, and the Power of Showing Up Every Day. She shares how her family’s story shaped her leadership, mindset, and purpose as both a doctor and a mother. From growing up in a donut shop to leading a thriving orthodontic practice, she reminds us that gratitude and grace are the true foundations of growth.

We talk about:
→ How her parents’ courage and faith continue to guide her life and leadership
→ The lessons she learned from resilience, service, and gratitude
→ What it means to lead with empathy and build a thriving team culture
→ How motherhood and boundaries have shaped her approach to balance
→ Why every challenge is an invitation to grow stronger and serve deeper

About Emily Taing Watson, DMD, MSD
Dr. Emily Taing Watson is an orthodontist, speaker, and the proud daughter of Cambodian refugees who survived the Khmer Rouge regime. Their story of resilience, strength, and sacrifice lies at the heart of her debut book, Roots of Resilience — a tribute to their journey and the enduring life lessons that continue to shape her personal values and professional leadership.

Dr. Watson earned her undergraduate degree from Butler University, her Doctor of Dental Medicine from the Boston University Goldman School of Dental Medicine, and completed her orthodontic residency at the Indiana University School of Dentistry. Guided by empathy, discipline, and purpose, she draws deeply from her family’s legacy to lead with integrity in both her practice and her broader community.

She resides in Warsaw, Indiana, with her husband, Brian, and their two daughters, Grace and Vivienne, who inspire her daily and serve as a constant reminder of the power of love and resilience.

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Disclaimer: Today's episode on The Bloom Effect talks about war, displacement, and what it's like to be a refugee. These are heavy stories and can feel intense for some. Take care of yourself while listening and know that it's completely okay to step away if it feels too much.

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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome + introduction
02:19 The story behind Roots of Resilience
06:50 Her parents’ escape from Cambodia
10:45 Lessons from growing up in a donut shop
15:35 How gratitude and perspective shape leadership
23:40 Resilience, motherhood, and building balance
30:10 Creating a culture of service and gratitude
37:15 What her team taught her about leadership
45:20 The power of faith and letting go of control
52:40 Life lessons, boundaries, and daily habits
01:03:20 Closing reflections and takeaways

Topics we explore in this episode include:
leadership in orthodontics, resilience and gratitude, immigrant family stories, women in dentistry, practice culture, motherhood and leadership, personal growth, faith and mindset

“If you’re doing your best to your ability, then you’ve done enough.”

For Julie Varney, dental assisting is more than a career — it’s a calling. With over 30 years of experience, she’s worn nearly every hat in the profession, from chairside assistant to educator and mentor. Today, she continues to inspire the next generation through teaching and advocacy, and her platform, Dental Assistants Rock, where she connects and uplifts thousands in the field.

In this episode, Julie shares her journey from learning the ropes under old-school mentors to becoming a trusted advocate for assistants worldwide. We chat about the value of training, why assistants deserve a stronger voice, and how culture, respect, and self-belief shape the future of dentistry.

We talk about:
→ How Julie turned a meme account into a thriving community for dental assistants
→ Lessons from teaching both adult and high school dental assisting programs
→ The challenges of recognition and retention in dentistry
→ Why self-advocacy and continual learning are keys to growth
→ How assistants can find fulfillment and longevity in the profession

About Julie Varney
Julie Varney, RDA, CDA, COA, CDIPC, FAADOM, is a Dental Assistant Instructor and advocate with decades of clinical experience and a passion for education. She combines technical expertise with a heart for compassionate patient care, preparing her students to excel both chairside and in life. Through her teaching, speaking, and social platforms, Julie empowers dental assistants to embrace their role, build confidence, and recognize the impact they make in patient health and practice culture.

Tune in on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube, and if this episode inspired you, share it with your team or a fellow dental professional. Subscribe to the show and leave a review. Want to bring this kind of energy into your practice? Visit DiscoverEverbloom.com.

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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome and introductions
02:15 Julie’s early years as a dental assistant
06:12 Finding independence and growth in general practice
10:40 From memes to movement: how Dental Assistants Rock began
15:20 The reality of recognition, pay, and retention
22:05 Teaching dental assisting and inspiring the next generation
30:44 Lessons from high school classrooms and adult programs
37:55 Why assistants are vital to patient and practice success
45:20 Advocating for culture, respect, and team collaboration
52:10 Final reflections on growth, fulfillment, and encouragement

Topics we explore in this episode include:
dental assistant advocacy, dental education, team culture in dentistry, onboarding and training, recognition and retention in practices, professional growth in dental assisting, patient and team experience, leadership in dentistry

“Growth breaks things, and that’s how we learn to rebuild better.”

For Dr. Jeff Kwong, leadership didn’t start with a title. From his early days in Toronto to running a thriving practice in Sacramento, Dr. Kwong has always been guided by curiosity, structure, and heart. As he steps into his new role as President of the California Association of Orthodontists, he’s reflecting on what it really means to lead with systems that support people and self-awareness that drives growth.

In this episode, Dr. Kwong and Cassie talk about his journey from clinician to leader, the lessons he’s learned about delegation, and why documenting systems is one of the best gifts you can give your team. He shares how tools like Asana and Loom transformed his practice, the surprising moment that shaped his leadership style, and how vulnerability builds trust at every level.

We talk about:
→ How Dr. Kwong went from “accidental leader” to CAO President
→ The role systems play in creating culture and consistency
→ How the Working Genius framework reshaped his leadership style
→ Why delegation builds stronger teams and calmer leaders
→ The evolution of orthodontics—from impression trays to AI

About Jeff Kwong, DDS, MSD
Dr. Kwong is the founder of Jeffrey Kwong Orthodontics in Sacramento, California. A proud Toronto native and Case Western Reserve University alum, he is known for his systems-driven approach and calm, collaborative leadership. In addition to running his practice, he serves as President of the California Association of Orthodontists, advocating for growth, connection, and innovation across the specialty. When he’s not in the office, you’ll find him skiing, traveling, or cheering on his two boys, Ryan and Alex, with a great cup of coffee in hand.

Tune in on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube, and if this episode inspired you, share it with your team or a fellow orthodontic leader. Subscribe to the show and leave a review. Want to bring this kind of energy into your practice? Visit DiscoverEverbloom.com.

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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome and introductions
02:15 Dr. Kwong’s path from Toronto to California
05:30 Saying yes (and no) to leadership opportunities
10:45 The call to serve: stepping into the CAO presidency
16:30 Learning to lead through self-awareness and systems
22:20 How Working Genius changed team communication
28:40 Building trust through delegation and vulnerability
34:10 Documenting systems with Loom and Asana
41:00 Thoughts on AI, technology, and the future of ortho
47:50 Advice for new practice owners and leaders
52:30 Closing reflections and gratitude

Topics we explore in this episode include:
orthodontic leadership, practice systems, team culture, delegation and trust, documentation and SOPs, vulnerability in leadership, orthodontic technology, CAO presidency, practice growth, modern orthodontics

“Orthodontics isn’t an individual sport, it’s a team sport. You can’t build lasting growth without trust.”

For Dr. Sean Holliday and Brianna Fuentes, what started in a makeshift laundry-room office turned into four thriving practices, a leadership partnership built on trust, and eventually OrthoMasterClass, an education platform shaping orthodontic teams worldwide.

In this episode, Dr. Sean Holliday and Brianna share their journey of building practices, investing in people, and learning how to let go of control. From the early struggles of subleasing space and managing debt to creating systems and growing leaders, their story shows how culture, trust, and delegation create sustainable success.

We talk about:
→ How Dr. Sean Holliday built Holliday Orthodontics from the ground up in Hawaii
→ Brianna’s path from assistant to manager and consultant
→ Why trust is the foundation of growth
→ Lessons from navigating turnover, culture shifts, and mistakes
→ How OrthoMasterClass helps orthodontists and teams implement lasting change

About Dr. Sean Holliday
Dr. Sean Holliday earned his dental degree from the University of Missouri–Kansas City and his orthodontic certification and master’s degree from the University of Illinois at Chicago. He is a board-certified Diplomate of the American Board of Orthodontics, a published author, and a public lecturer. Dr. Holliday is a contract advisor for Align Technology, and Holliday Orthodontics is an Invisalign®️ Diamond Plus Apex provider with over 12,000 clear aligner cases treated. He is involved in clinical research in digital orthodontics, serves on the Journal of Clinical Orthodontics Clinical Advisory Council, and leads four orthodontic offices on the island of Oahu.

About Brianna Fuentes
With over 20 years of orthodontic experience, Brianna Fuentes has held roles ranging from Clinical Assistant and Treatment Coordinator to Director of Operations and Consultant. Since 2015, she has collaborated with Dr. Holliday on Align Technology programs and OrthoMasterClass immersion courses, and since 2018, she has served as an Align faculty member and speaker. As a consultant, Brianna supports practices across the U.S. by creating efficient systems, building culture, and helping teams increase conversion and morale.

Tune in on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube, and if this episode sparked something for you, share it with your team or a fellow ortho leader. Subscribe to the show and leave a review. Want to bring this kind of energy into your practice? Visit DiscoverEverbloom.com.

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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome and introductions
02:37 Brianna’s path into orthodontics
06:00 Early challenges and sharing a laundry-room office
10:51 Sean’s journey from St. Louis to Hawaii
13:33 Starting from debt and building trust
17:59 Balancing business, culture, and personal life
23:19 Learning to delegate and let go of control
27:25 Investing in leadership and team growth
32:28 Why mistakes can strengthen culture
40:20 Navigating turnover and building systems
46:00 Creating OrthoMasterClass
53:30 Final reflections on leadership and trust

Topics we explore in this episode include:
orthodontic leadership, practice growth and culture, delegation and trust, building systems in orthodontics, team development, navigating turnover, patient and team experience, leadership advice for orthodontists

“Your brand is how people feel when they interact with you, inside and outside the practice.”

For Brenda Ashwell, what started with grassroots contests and referral slips has grown into three decades of shaping culture-driven experiences in orthodontics. From co-founding Patient Rewards Hub to leading growth and success at Culturello, Brenda has seen how brand, culture, and consistency fuel long-term growth for both teams and practices.

In this episode, Brenda shares her journey from working inside practices to building tools that support them, what she’s learned about leadership and culture, and why connected brand experiences matter more than ever.

We talk about:
→ How Brenda’s early roles in orthodontics shaped her view of patient and team experience
→ The evolution from analog contests to connected brand systems
→ Why consistency is the foundation of lasting growth
→ Ways practices can support their teams without piling on more tasks
→ How culture and brand fuel both retention and referrals

About Brenda Ashwell
Brenda Ashwell is the Growth & Success Lead at Culturello, where she leads customer success and partnership teams. Culturello is the parent company of the recently merged Patient Rewards Hub and Hubbux Teams. Over more than two decades, Brenda has worn many hats — from co-founder to head of growth and success — guiding thousands of successful membership implementations across orthodontic practices and beyond. At Culturello, she helps turn the science of play, behavioral economics, and connected data into meaningful interactions, brand moments, and rewards that strengthen culture and spark growth.

Tune in on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube, and if this episode sparked something for you, share it with your team or a fellow ortho leader. Subscribe to the show and leave a review. Want to bring this kind of energy into your practice? Visit DiscoverEverbloom.com.

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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome and Brenda’s start in orthodontics
02:38 Who is Brenda? A career built on culture and brand
05:42 Lessons from working inside a practice
11:21 The shift from contests to connected systems
13:50 Why consistency drives brand experience
17:22 Supporting teams without adding more tasks
21:47 Staying authentic while adapting to change
27:19 Defining brand beyond the logo
32:37 Culture in action with teams, patients, and partners
36:59 Leadership advice for practice owners
43:44 Why gamification and play still matter
46:32 Final reflections on growth and culture

Topics we explore in this episode include
orthodontic leadership, brand-driven culture, practice growth and consistency, gamification in orthodontics, patient and team experience, leadership advice for ortho teams, connecting technology and culture

“You have to show up as yourself in leadership. Support carries more weight than power.”

What looks like a straight path often starts with an unexpected turn. For Kristin Lennarson, seven years behind the chair as a hairstylist led her into orthodontics — a field she’s been part of for nearly a decade.

In this episode, Kristin shares her journey from chairside assistant to head lab tech to clinical lead, and what it takes to step into leadership in a growing practice. We talk about the loneliness of leadership, the pressure of being likable, and why uncomfortable conversations are often the most important ones you’ll have as a leader. Kristin also shares how she navigated team dynamics, built confidence in others, and ultimately carried those lessons into her current role supporting practices as a Customer Success Manager with Bright Referral.

We talk about:
→ How Kristin transitioned from hairstyling to orthodontics
→ The path from assistant to clinical lead and why each role mattered
→ The hardest mindset shift when moving from teammate to leader
→ Why uncomfortable conversations are essential for healthy practices
→ How her clinical experience shapes her work today at Bright Referral

About Kristin Lennarson
Kristin Lennarson spent seven years as a hairstylist before moving into orthodontics, where she spent nearly a decade in roles ranging from chairside assistant to head lab tech to clinical lead. After years of growing alongside her team, she stepped into a new chapter as an integration specialist and now serves as a Customer Success Manager with Bright Referral. Kristin brings her passion for people, systems, and leadership into every practice she supports.

Tune in on Apple, Spotify, or YouTube, and if this episode sparked something for you, share it with your team or a fellow ortho leader. Subscribe to the show and leave a review. Want to bring this kind of energy into your practice? Visit DiscoverEverbloom.com.

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Episode Chapters
00:00 Welcome and Kristin’s start in orthodontics
03:05 From hairstylist to chairside assistant
07:01 The growth of a practice and the need for a clinical lead
11:08 Shifting from teammate to leader
18:00 Facing the challenge of being liked vs. being effective
22:38 Leading with support, not power
30:58 Building systems and shaping new roles
36:00 What leadership taught Kristin about herself and her career
39:54 Final reflections on risk, growth, and authenticity

Topics we explore in this episode include:
orthodontic leadership, clinical lead role in ortho, team confidence building, practice growth and systems, leadership challenges in orthodontics, transitioning careers, patient experience in ortho practices