Denise rue was the very first person I ever held space for, and soon became my first colleague. We worked with many hundreds of clients side by side, and had many personal journeys with psilocybin with eachother as well. In this episode we cover the biggest energetic threat to a ceremony space, paranoia. Paranoia to an extreme level should be a very rare encounter, but when you work as much as Denise and I, that card eventually gets drawn. Here is how to not only make it through that encounter, but how to see the silver lining. Enjoy.