Chuck was in his first pastorate, crushing it, seeing lives restored. Then he had a disagreement with the senior pastor and was fired. He was livid, wanted justice, andstuffed all the painful emotions. Eventually he ended up in a hospital, terribly ill because “the body does keep score.”

Chuck DeGroat is the Pastor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, Holland, MI. We have a powerful conversation about his latest book, Healing What’s Within: Coming Home to Yourself, and to God, When You’re Wounded, Weary, and Wandering.

Also in this healing conversation, when Chuck was younger and read the 3 questions God asked Adam and Eve after they fell, “Where are you? Who told you were naked? And did you eat of the tree?" Chuck took those questions as coming from an angry God.

Now he understands these are questions God asks us to invite us back home into his perfect love. Share this life-giving conversation!

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