The Border Chronicle

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The Border Chronicle episodes

  • Wall Watch: Mapping Trump’s $46 Billion Border Mega-Project

    What’s bigger than the Hoover Dam or the Panama Canal? The Trump Administration’s
    spending of more than $46 billion in taxpayer money on border walls, and buoy barriers across
    the 1,954-mile border. The government mega-project is being carried out with little government
    oversight, input from communities, and zero studies on environmental or wildlife impacts.
    There’s also been no reliable government data, or a way to publicly track the border wall
    construction, as it unfolds. This is why The Border Chronicle created a new community-powered
    mapping project, Wall Watch, to track current awarded border wall contracts, surveillance
    technology and other border infrastructure.

    Border Chronicle cofounder Melissa del Bosque and Geographer Dugan Meyer, who built the
    database for the interactive map, describe what you can find on Wall Watch from existing border
    wall to community reports on wall construction, surveying, environmental impacts and buoy
    barrier installation. It’s easy for border residents to submit a community report, and it helps build
    an accurate picture of construction as it is happening across the U.S.-Mexico border region.

    Del Bosque and Meyer also discuss the challenges of building Wall Watch, and finding reliable
    government data for the map, how Wall Watch will help border residents understand the massive
    mega construction project as it impacts their communities, and how residents can help build a
    more accurate map by submitting reports on what they’re seeing on the ground. They also talk
    about the kind of data you can find on Wall Watch, and how it’s available to anyone to download.
    And they discuss the administration’s plan to build a “wall system” that includes two walls with
    enforcement zones, patrol roads, surveillance towers and stadium lights along the entire southern
    border. “When this administration is done, the southern border will look more like a federal
    prison with double walls draped in concertina wire,” said del Bosque. “You only have to look at
    San Diego where the wall system is already in place, and where they used the enforcement zone
    between the two walls as an open-air detention site in 2023, to see what the plan is for the rest of
    the border.”

    55 min
  • Protecting the Last Grandmother Cottonwood: A Podcast with Kate Scott

    A vivid depiction of what has been happening during the last eight weeks of resistance of border wall construction in Arizona’s San Raphael Valley.

    It took several attempts to get this podcast interview with Kate Scott, cofounder and director of the Madrean Archipelago Wildlife Center. On one of the attempts, the people gathered in Lochiel, Arizona, to protect the one remaining cottonwood tree on the U.S.-Mexico border were dealing with a low-flying Customs and Border Protection helicopter that shook the treetop where a person precariously sat, as the group has been doing in rotation now for two weeks. On July 27, an excavator from the contractor Fisher Sand & Gravel killed three other ancient cottonwoods, who they say were obstructing border wall construction. 

    Another podcast attempt was thwarted by a ferocious hailstorm, a staple of the rainy southern Arizona monsoon season. In other words, Kate is in it, in one of the biggest battles of our time, with the weather, with a multi-billion dollar Homeland Security force. People have been gathering at Lochiel since June 23, approximately eight weeks ago, when they got word that CBP was coming for the cottonwoods located in the Roosevelt Reservation, a 60-foot buffer zone from the international boundary inland owned by the U.S. federal government. In this podcast, Kate goes into detail about all of this: the double border wall construction, the contractors, the destruction, the overall resistance, and what they plan to do going forward. We get stories of communion in what Kate calls the grandmother trees. And at the end, Kate reads a moving poem by nine-year-old Aurelia Neils Bugbee who insists that “our love will bring down this wall!”

     

    To supplement this podcast, we recommend that you check out this article by John Washington at LOOKOUT that came out this week.

    54 min
  • Why Local Pressure is Key to Impacting National Immigration Politics: A podcast with John Washington, author of "How to Close a Camp"

    In February, the country broke an ominous record: over 68,000 people were being held in detention by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, more than ever before. President Trump has set a goal of deporting one million people from the United States annually—aiming to blow past the previous record, from 2013, of 432,000 deportations in a year.

    In order to achieve these draconian indicators of success, agents tasked with arresting and detaining immigrants are looking everywhere for possible targets. In an April 2025 speech, Border Czar Tom Homan told undocumented immigrants to “be looking over your shoulder.” Since then, immigrants—including many with legal status or on a path to adjusting their status—have been arrested everywhere from the grocery store to the courtroom. On any given day, some 60,000 people, most without any criminal record, are held in the more than 200 detention centers scattered across the United States.

    What can local communities who want to fight back do about this? Journalist John Washington’s new book, How to Close a Camp: Dispatches from the Fight against Immigrant Detention, offers some possible answers. Coming out July 21 from Haymarket Books, the book offers a history of the use of detention camps in the United States, but it also provides a detailed compilation of resources for communities looking to investigate licenses, contracts, and environmental compliances as possible pressure points.

    John spoke with Border Chronicle reporter Caroline Tracey about How to Close a Camp for this week’s podcast and about how, as he writes, “understanding that immigration detention camps are not abstract federal machines. They are, rather, deeply embedded in local political economies [via] zoning permits and tax breaks, local health departments that license medical providers, and municipal governments that issue for food services and utility hookups. Every one of these nodes is a potential pressure point.”

    52 min
  • The Everywhere Border: A podcast with Border Chronicle founders, Todd and Melissa

    Border Chronicle founders, Todd and Melissa, talk about how law enforcement surveillance, high-speed chases instigated by Border Patrol, unwarranted searches and seizures, and other heavy-handed policing that border communities have endured for decades has now moved into the interior of the country. They also discuss Todd’s upcoming book on climate change and the Rio Grande, and recent Border Chronicle community events in the borderlands —stay tuned for more in the Fall! And they talk about the Trump administration’s attempt to install 500 miles of buoy barriers on the Rio Grande, and walls that are currently being built through environmentally sensitive areas, sacred sites and areas where there has historically been little migration.

    51 min
  • The Term “Border Security” Is Completely Inaccurate: A Podcast with Jacques Servin

    This conversation, hosted by Todd Miller, about a great borderlands adobe brick building project is going great, until Jacques Servin—of the political performance artist trickster and activist troupe called the Yes Men—fails to grasp the meaning of the term "border security" — at least how it’s conveyed to the world by the high brass of the Department of Homeland Security. Though frustrating at first, this leads to a fruitful philosophical conversation and then a possibly paradigm-shifting one. Listen all the way to the end for a provocative proposal about next year’s Border Security Expo.

    52 min
  • Bringing the Border into Latin American Art: A Podcast with Gabriela Rangel

     

    Gabriela Rangel, director of Tucson’s Museum of Contemporary Art, was born and raised in Caracas, Venezuela. As a curator focusing on Latin American art, she’s worked at the Museum of Fine Arts in Houston, the Americas Society in New York City, and the Museo de Arte Latinoamericano de Buenos Aires. In the fall of 2025 she became the director of Tucson's Museum of Contemporary Art. 

     

    In this podcast with Caroline Tracey, The Border Chronicle’s arts & culture editor, Rangel discusses how the concept of Latin American art" didn’t come from Latin America, the necessity for politics in art, and what it’s like living and working in the Sonoran Desert “This is a borderland city,” she says of Tucson. Of how the border figures into contemporary art, she adds: “Urgent matters in the repertoire of contemporary art are also crucial for the borderlands: water, ecosystems and immigration—these are issues that contemporary art has adopted in their concerns....Contemporary art is about what’s happening in the present.”

    51 min
  • Inside the Sentinel Surveillance Tower in Ciudad Juárez: A podcast with investigative journalist José Olivares

    José Olivares is an independent investigative journalist and audio producer who reports on immigration enforcement, U.S. operations in Latin America, and human rights. He is also the podcast editor for The Border Chronicle, and we’re lucky to have him on our team.

    In this episode, we discuss his recent investigation, “A Mexican Surveillance Giant You’ve Never Heard of Is Now Watching the U.S. Border,” conducted for the independent nonprofit outlets Rest of World and Type Investigations. José’s investigation focuses on the Torre Centinela, or Sentinel Tower, which is nearing completion in Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua. This massive 20-story surveillance tower is truly dystopian and stands as the tallest structure in the region, overlooking both El Paso and Ciudad Juárez.

    José toured the tower and examined thousands of government records related to Seguritech, the corporation overseeing the project. He found that surveillance in the borderlands is rapidly growing, often with little oversight, and that intelligence from the Sentinel Tower is being shared among Texas and U.S. federal law enforcement agencies. In Ciudad Juárez, which has faced violence for the past two decades, residents are voluntarily connecting their home security cameras to the Sentinel system with the promise of increased safety. But is it working? Listen to the podcast to find out!

    Additionally, José explores the recent scandal involving two CIA agents who died during an anti-drug operation with state law enforcement in Chihuahua, which led to the resignation of the state’s attorney general.

    Listen to the Border Chronicle podcast, wherever you get your podcasts.

    46 min
  • Inside the “National Defense Areas”: A Podcast with Investigative Reporters Sonner Kehrt and David Roza

    In January 2025, the Trump administration declared a national emergency at the southern border and directed the military to take control of large expanses of the border, which include major cities like El Paso, McAllen, and Brownsville, and designate them as “National Defense Areas”. In a recent Border Chronicle investigation “A War Zone: Minus the War” with the nonprofit The War Horse, which serves military communities, we examined the impact this is having on border residents, the types of military surveillance and hardware being rolled out in the national defense zones, and the impact these zones are having on the military and migration at the border, including federal prosecutors attempting to charge migrants for trespassing.

    For this discussion, I joined Sonner Kehrt an investigative reporter with The War Horse, and David Roza, an independent journalist, who covers the U.S. military to talk about our collaboration, and catch you up on more recent military developments, including the Davis-Monthan Air Force base in Tucson hosting Space Force Guardians and Fort Huachuca near Sierra Vista, Arizona, which is developing a new mission for U.S. Space Force, whose somewhat bizarre official song— yes, this is real— you can listen to here.

    1 hr 13 min
  • What’s Wrong with Mexico’s Right Wing? A Conversation with Alex González Ormerod

    When Alex González Ormerod, editor of the Mexico Political Economist, started researching his book about the Mexican right wing, he found an odd pattern: many of his interviewees didn’t identify as part of the Right. They called themselves liberals. But “liberal” was also the term used by Andrés Manuel López Obrador, then the country’s left-wing president, to describe himself. For González Ormerod, it was a problem that Mexico’s democracy didn’t encompass the full political spectrum. He went on to title his 2025 book La derecha no existe (pero ahí está): Guía para entender su fracaso y su futuro en México [The Right doesn’t exist (but it’s there): A guide for understanding its failure and its future in Mexico]. The book is in part a history of the Mexican Right’s failures, and in part an argument for why a recovery of the Right would benefit the country’s democracy. He contends that this is important even for those who consider themselves staunchly on the Left. In this podcast, Caroline Tracey speaks with Alex about the history of the PAN party, including its odd and sometimes unhappy marriage of Catholics and businessmen, and about his arguments concerning the future of democracy in Mexico.

    1 hr 5 min
  • Running through Borders: A Podcast with Amy Juan

    Resistance can take many forms. One of them, as Amy Juan of the Tohono O’odham explains here, is for people to come together to run in unity, prayer, and witness across traditional O’odham land, crisscrossing the U.S.-Mexico border. The annual Unity Run has taken place since 1995 with the purpose of “reinstating the tradition of running and carrying prayers,” which “unites us in respectful observance of preserving and healing our history, language, and culture,” according to the Native American Advancement Foundation.

    Amy serves as the administrative manager of the San Xavier Co-op Farm. She was the first guest we interviewed on the Border Chronicle podcast, in September 2021. We also had an in-depth conversation with her after the Border Patrol’s killing of Tohono O’odham member Raymond Mattia. Conversations with Amy are always rich with insight and perspective, and this one is no exception.

    Amy says that the Unity Run, which took place in March, offers a good example of O’odham resilience:

    The way that we’re able to adapt to different things good or bad, when it comes to our responsibilities in carrying out these traditions and these ceremonies and different things, and making sure it continues because there are worries from our elders that we’re going far away from who we are. But when there are things like this, and we see there are little kids speaking the language, there are people still telling the stories, there are people who know the history. Those things are all important because they give us the strength we need to resist the border.

    This resistance may be directed, as Amy explains, against the possible construction of a physical border wall on the Nation. But its lessons can also be carried to any part of the country where the Border Patrol and ICE are operating.

    1 hr 19 min

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The Border Chronicle podcast is hosted by Melissa del Bosque and Todd Miller. Based in Tucson, Arizona, longtime journalists Melissa and Todd speak with fascinating fronterizos, community leaders,…