In this episode, Monte & Veronica talk about an exchange between two candidates during the December Primary Debate, the rise & fall of Hugo Chavez, and the current political crisis in Venezuela. Also, Veronica flexes her literary muscles regarding speculative fiction. NOTE: In our original recording, we talked much more about the debate, but we ended up repeating a lot of things we've already talked about in past episodes. So to avoid beating dead horses, we cut quite a bit of our debate discussion. Listen back to our prior debate episodes to hear our very important takes!