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Nick, Corey, and Zach take on the impossible: ranking every Star Wars movie AND series on a single tier list, S tier down to F — and yes, a few land in the "?" pile. One casual fan, two certified Star Wars nerds, zero agreement.

Empire makes S without a fight. A New Hope and Rogue One spark a real debate. The sequel trilogy gets... what it deserves. And somehow The Acolyte ends up in a conversation about whether it's worse than Rise of Skywalker.

Movies ranked: The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith, A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi, The Rise of Skywalker, Rogue One, and Solo.

Series ranked: The Acolyte, Andor, Ahsoka, The Bad Batch, The Clone Wars, The Mandalorian, Obi-Wan Kenobi, The Book of Boba Fett, Skeleton Crew, and Rebels.

Plus: the best lightsaber duels, why the prequels hit different as a kid, the "rise of the Sith" trilogy that should have existed, and everyone's favorite Star Wars game to close it out.

Where did we get it wrong? Drop your tier list in the comments.

Chapters:
00:00 – Intro (and a brief Survivor hostage situation)
03:00 – The Phantom Menace
05:00 – Attack of the Clones
06:59 – Revenge of the Sith
09:42 – A New Hope
11:41 – The Empire Strikes Back
12:53 – Return of the Jedi
16:00 – The Force Awakens
25:30 – The Last Jedi
29:44 – The Rise of Skywalker
31:01 – The Acolyte
33:13 – Andor
34:38 – Ahsoka
36:01 – The Bad Batch
37:01 – The Clone Wars
39:08 – The Mandalorian
39:59 – Obi-Wan Kenobi
41:09 – Skeleton Crew
43:00 – Solo
43:11 – Rebels
43:39 – The Book of Boba Fett
43:58 – Rogue One
48:11 – Favorite Star Wars games
49:08 – Final list + wrap

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The crew is back from MicroConf Portland, and this one might've been the best yet. Nick, Zach, and Corey break down the whole trip — the talks, the stunts, the ponds, and yes, the guy in the blue morph suit who stormed the stage.

In this episode:

• Ranking Portland against every MicroConf we've been to (New Orleans, Istanbul, Dubrovnik, Atlanta)

• Why Portland's walkability beat our car-dependent California lives

• Amanda Natividad's talk and the wild stat that only ~3% of search is AI right now

• Zach's live pricing-page workshop — redesigning a founder's page in Figma in real time

• Corey's pond obsession, Powell's Books, and buying a quarter of their entire pond inventory

• Our marketing stunts: the "Do Marketing, Get Rich" sign, the Lego avatar booth, and the Comic Sans rollup banner

• Last year's $5,000 of merch stuck in Istanbul customs vs. this year's boxes waiting at the hotel

• What's next: Reykjavík (Corey's speaking!) and Austin, Texas

Heading to a future MicroConf? Let us know you listen to the show and we'll buy you dinner. Seriously.

Shout outs: Parker from Pool Dial, Tom Buchok, and Michael Jans for the Ava Gene's rec.

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In this episode of The Break Room, the guys put together a fast food tier list and debate the best fast food restaurants from top to bottom. They rank classics like McDonald’s, Wendy’s, Sonic, Jack in the Box, Five Guys, Domino’s, Chick-fil-A, Taco Bell, Chipotle, Panda Express, and In-N-Out, with plenty of disagreement along the way.

The conversation goes way beyond a basic ranking. They argue over whether fast food should be judged by taste, value, nostalgia, convenience, or the full experience, which makes this more like a real podcast debate than just a tier list.

If you’re into fast food rankings, best fast food debates, restaurant tier lists, and casual podcast conversations, this episode is for you. It’s full of strong opinions, guilty pleasures, and some very questionable takes on chains like Taco Bell, Chipotle, Chuck E. Cheese, and Krispy Kreme.

At the center of it all is the final debate: In-N-Out vs. Chick-fil-A for the top spot.

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The Breakroom is a show hosted by the three cofounders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth. Tune into the Factory Floor, our other show, to stay up to date with the changing landscape of the marketing world.

On the Break Room, we just like to chill out and tell stories. Whether you're on your way to work, just passing the time, or stuck somewhere with nothing but an internet connection, tune in. We're here for you, a couple of dudes hanging out.

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Nick Loudon, Corey Haines, and Zach Stevens sit down to ruthlessly rank some of the most famous (and infamous) corporate logo redesigns of all time. From massive glow-ups to total disasters, we debate nostalgia, functionality, execution, and whether million-dollar decisions were actually worth it.
We cover eBay, Gap, Kia, Popeyes, CIA (yes, really), Slack, BMW, Airbnb, Animal Planet, Best Buy, Burger King, Nissan, Dictionary.com, Domino’s, GM, Google, Uber, Instagram, Starbucks, Netflix — and a few honorable mentions along the way.
Expect strong opinions, designer hot takes from Zach, nostalgic rants from Corey, and Nick trying to keep everyone on track.

Timestamps:
00:00 – Intro & Tier List Rules
01:39 – eBay
05:14 – Gap (the infamous flop)
06:22 – Kia
09:19 – Popeyes
11:26 – CIA
13:49 – Slack
18:17 – BMW
23:15 – Airbnb
23:53 – Animal Planet
27:56 – Best Buy
28:17 – Burger King
29:17 – Nissan
30:44 – Domino’s
31:49 – GM
32:27 – Google
33:07 – Uber
35:47 – Instagram
38:09 – Starbucks
41:10 – Netflix
45:01 – Final thoughts & part 2 tease

If you love branding, design debates, or just watching three marketers argue over logos, hit that like button, drop your hottest take in the comments (which redesign did we get wrong?), and subscribe for more episodes.
New episodes every week. Thanks for hanging in The Breakroom with us!

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The Breakroom is a show hosted by the three cofounders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth. Tune into the Factory Floor, our other show, to stay up to date with the changing landscape of the marketing world.

On the Break Room, we just like to chill out and tell stories. Whether you're on your way to work, just passing the time, or stuck somewhere with nothing but an internet connection, tune in. We're here for you, a couple of dudes hanging out.

To support the channel, like and subscribe. It really helps.

You can also listen to the show on Apple Podcasts and Spotify

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Are the Kids Cooked?

In this episode of The Break Room, Nick, Corey, and Zach put their age, sanity, and cultural relevance to the test by taking a Gen Z and Gen Alpha slang quiz created by everyone’s favorite personal assistant, ChadGPT.

From “skull” and “caught in 4K” to “delulu is the solulu,” “NPC behavior,” and “bro thought he cooked,” the guys attempt to decode the ever-evolving language of the internet, with mixed results. Along the way, they debate whether the kids are actually cooked, if aura can be farmed, why having “motion” is suddenly a compliment, and whether growing up with AI is fundamentally changing how humans think.

Expect:

Plenty of wrong answers

Existential dread about the future

Millennials realizing they are aging in real time

Strong opinions on brain rot, swag, and TikTok culture

So the big question remains: are the kids alright, or is this the beginning of the end?

Grab a seat in The Break Room and find out.

Drop a comment with your favorite slang term, or let us know how cooked we are 💀 ong fr  🫵🤣

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The Breakroom is a show hosted by the three cofounders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth. Tune into the Factory Floor, our other show, to stay up to date with the changing landscape of the marketing world.

On the Break Room, we just like to chill out and tell stories. Whether you're on your way to work, just passing the time, or stuck somewhere with nothing but an internet connection, tune in. We're here for you, a couple of dudes hanging out.

To support the channel, like and subscribe. It really helps.

You can also listen to the show on Apple Podcasts and Spotify

What does the U.S. get wrong that other countries do better?

In this Break Room episode, Nick Loudon, Zach Stevens, and Corey Haines take a step away from work and dig into a lively, opinionated conversation about everyday systems the United States could improve — based on firsthand experiences abroad.

From public transportation and food quality to the metric system, cigarette packaging, and the eternal debate over roundabouts vs. stop signs, this episode is equal parts thoughtful, funny, and unfiltered.

It’s not about bashing the U.S. — it’s about noticing what works elsewhere and asking why we haven’t adopted it yet.

Topics discussed include:

Why public transportation abroad feels faster, cleaner, and more reliable
The difference between U.S. and European food ingredients
Bread, pasta, dairy, and why they hit differently outside the U.S.
The case for switching to the metric system
Graphic cigarette packaging and whether it actually works
Roundabouts vs. stop signs (and why this gets surprisingly heated)
Trains, traffic, and getting to the airport on time

This episode is a relaxed, off-the-cuff discussion with strong opinions, jokes, and real-world observations — perfect if you enjoy long-form conversations that feel like hanging out with friends.

Hosts:
Nick Loudon
Zach Stevens
Corey Haines

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The Breakroom is a show hosted by the three cofounders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth. Tune into the Factory Floor, our other show, to stay up to date with the changing landscape of the marketing world.

On the Break Room, we just like to chill out and tell stories. Whether you're on your way to work, just passing the time, or stuck somewhere with nothing but an internet connection, tune in. We're here for you, a couple of dudes hanging out.

To support the channel, like and subscribe. It really helps.

You can also listen to the show on Apple Podcasts and Spotify

Welcome back to The Break Room, where absolutely nothing important happens — and today is no exception. In this episode, Nick, Corey, and Zach embark on a deeply “scientific” mission: discovering Conversion Factory’s collective zodiac sign using a BuzzFeed quiz, the most trusted source of universal truth.

Along the way, the guys ruthlessly deconstruct the logic (or lack thereof) behind zodiac signs, horoscopes, and the painfully confident people who insist they can read your soul based on the month you were born. Spoiler: zodiac signs are dumb, astrology isn’t real, and the only thing the stars are influencing is how hard we're rolling our eyes.

In this episode:

-The team takes a “What Zodiac Sign Are You?” quiz as a business — because why not
-Heated debates about cats, squares, Legos, Hogwarts houses, and other extremely scientific criteria
-A BuzzFeed result so vague it narrowed 12 signs down to… 3
-Live reading of a hilariously generic horoscope (“You may feel inspired to write today.” Wow, thanks.)
-Zach recounts the iconic moment he ruined an astrology girl’s day by telling her the truth
-Corey reveals his favorite tactic: agree with people about their zodiac guesses, then immediately tell them they’re wrong
-Reflecting on why strangers feel entitled to assign you a personality based on what month your mom went into labor
-If you've ever been asked “What’s your sign?” and immediately knew the conversation was doomed, this episode is for you.

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The Breakroom is a show hosted by the three cofounders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth. Tune into the Factory Floor, our other show, to stay up to date with the changing landscape of the marketing world.

On the Break Room, we just like to chill out and tell stories. Whether you're on your way to work, just passing the time, or stuck somewhere with nothing but an internet connection, tune in. We're here for you, a couple of dudes hanging out.

To support the channel, like and subscribe. It really helps.

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In this episode, we put Corey to the test with a fatherhood quiz on all things babies and childbirth, from meconium to Braxton Hicks contractions and the ring of fire, to gauge just how ready he really is.

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The Breakroom is a show hosted by the three cofounders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth. Tune into the Factory Floor, our other show, to stay up to date with the changing landscape of the marketing world.

On the Break Room, we just like to chill out and tell stories. Whether you're on your way to work, just passing the time, or stuck somewhere with nothing but an internet connection, tune in. We're here for you, a couple of dudes hanging out.

To support the channel, like and subscribe. It really helps.

You can also listen to the show on Apple Podcasts and Spotify

In this episode of The Break Room, Nick, Corey, and Zach dive into one of their most chaotic debates yet: ranking wild animals on a tier list based on who would win in a bare-knuckle fight. 

From ostriches and king cobras to grizzly bears, rhinos, and great white sharks, the trio imagines brutal showdowns in a 50x50 concrete cell—clothed only in a wristwatch for good measure. 

Expect heated arguments over chokeholds, death rolls, and whether a human could outsmart a gorilla (spoiler: Zach thinks so). 

Their overconfidence and questionable strategies lead to plenty of laughs and zero mercy for underdogs like bunnies and penguins.

Tune in for the full tier list reveal and decide for yourself: could you take a kangaroo? Drop your picks in the comments, and subscribe for more unfiltered conversations from the Break Room crew.

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The Breakroom is a show hosted by the three cofounders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth. Tune into the Factory Floor, our other show, to stay up to date with the changing landscape of the marketing world.

On the Break Room, we just like to chill out and tell stories. Whether you're on your way to work, just passing the time, or stuck somewhere with nothing but an internet connection, tune in. We're here for you, a couple of dudes hanging out.

To support the channel, like and subscribe. It really helps.

You can also listen to the show on Apple Podcasts and Spotify

Nick brought a water gun to school, Zach cursed like a sailor at age 7, and Corey already had a beard by age 12.

This episode, the guys share their craziest school stories.

What's your craziest school story?

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The Breakroom is a show hosted by the three cofounders of Conversion Factory, the marketing agency at the forefront of SaaS growth. Tune into the Factory Floor, our other show, to stay up to date with the changing landscape of the marketing world.

On the Break Room, we just like to chill out and tell stories. Whether you're on your way to work, just passing the time, or stuck somewhere with nothing but an internet connection, tune in. We're here for you, a couple of dudes hanging out.

To support the channel, like and subscribe. It really helps.

You can also listen to the show on Apple Podcasts and Spotify