In this conversation, Stacey Copas shares her personal journey with burnout and the challenge of recognising it early. She emphasises the importance of setting boundaries and discusses how people‑pleasing and overworking often mask deeper issues. Stacey redefines resilience by focusing on daily rituals and self‑awareness, and she explores the tension between staying comfortable and striving for growth. The discussion highlights why presence matters more than performance and offers practical steps to cultivate it.
Guest: Stacey Copas is Australia’s leading resilience expert and keynote speaker. Drawing from her own experience of and the lessons in her book How To Be Resilient, she helps individuals and organisations build resilience and thrive.
Hosted by Sophie Theen, leadership coach, culture expert, and founder of The Burnout Detox Kit, this podcast explores burnout, workplace culture, emotional recovery, and the hidden cost of high performance.
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction to Burnout and Resilience
03:34 – Stacey’s Personal Journey with Burnout
05:58 – The Challenge of Setting Boundaries
08:07 – People‑Pleasing and Its Impact on Burnout
10:02 – Overworking as a Coping Mechanism
12:07 – Redefining Resilience Post‑Burnout
14:44 – Building Resilience Through Daily Rituals
17:34 – The Importance of Self‑Awareness
20:08 – Comfort vs. Growth: The Stagnation Dilemma
22:54 – Presence Over Performance
25:51 – Practical Steps to Cultivate Presence
28:20 – Conclusion and Resources
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