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What happens when a company is designed to serve its purpose instead of its owners?
In this episode of The Business Philosopher Within You, Bhavesh Naik speaks with Brenna Davis, CEO of Organically Grown Company and author of Leading Through Fire: Resilient Leadership for People, Planet, and the Future.
Together, they explore steward ownership, perpetual purpose trusts, resilient leadership and whether organizations can be designed to endure across generations rather than optimize for short-term extraction.
The conversation moves from Brenna’s early experiences in the forests of the Pacific Northwest to her current role leading one of the most prominent purpose-driven ownership structures in the United States.
Topics explored include
About Brenna Davis
Brenna Davis is the CEO of Organically Grown Company, the nation’s largest independent organic produce distributor, and the author of Leading Through Fire: Resilient Leadership for People, Planet, and the Future. An environmental scientist turned CEO, her work focuses on resilient leadership, stewardship and governance systems designed for future generations.
About the Podcast
The Business Philosopher Within You explores the thinking behind leaders who build self-sustaining organizations that outlast them.
Chapters
00:00 Highlights
03:07 Why do most organizations eventually break?
04:50 The moment that set everything in motion
08:15 When leadership stops being a role and becomes a responsibility
13:13 The point where the existing system starts to fall short
16:32 What if ownership is the problem?
20:43 Can purpose survive at scale?
23:53 Can purpose and business actually align?
28:17 What gets rewritten when purpose becomes the priority?
32:13 What nature reveals about how systems survive
39:13 Can organizations be designed like living systems?
43:25 What resilience actually looks like under pressure
49:28 The moments that define a leader
54:58 Why this might still work
59:44 What this means for the future of business
Explore this episode: Deep dive, show notes and references
https://www.awayre.com/steward-ownership-perpetual-purpose-trust/
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What does it take to build world-class teams across industries?
In this episode, Kevin Gaskell shares the leadership philosophy behind transforming ordinary teams into high-performing organizations.
Kevin is a former CEO of Porsche, BMW, and Lamborghini, where he led major turnarounds and growth strategies. He is also an active entrepreneur who has built fifteen companies, creating teams that have generated over eight billion dollars in shareholder value, and is currently building five companies.
Across these environments, he has applied a consistent leadership philosophy in very different contexts.
Across all of these environments, one idea continues to hold:
Catch people in, not catch people out.
In this conversation, we explore what that really means—and why most leaders unintentionally do the opposite.
This is not a discussion about tactics or frameworks. It is a deeper exploration of the philosophy that shapes culture, performance, and long-term success.
What You’ll Learn
About the Guest
Kevin Gaskell is an experienced business leader known for transforming underperforming organizations into high-performing teams. He has led iconic automotive brands and built multiple successful businesses, while also completing extreme endurance challenges including ocean rowing and polar expeditions.
About the Podcast
The Business Philosopher Within You explores the thinking behind leaders who build self-sustaining organizations that outlast them.
Chapters
00:00 What Transfers Across Industries
04:15 Belief Drives Performance
05:53 Ordinary to Extraordinary Teams
07:34 Defining Success Clearly
09:30 Alignment Before Action
12:33 What Transformation Requires
17:38 Focus Determines Outcomes
22:41 Where Trust Begins
23:45 Leading Through Resistance
27:22 Connection Drives Performance
32:20 Letting Go to Scale
35:02 Leadership Under Pressure
37:53 Ego Undermines Performance
47:48 Strong Foundations First
50:46 Designing Productive Failure
53:24 Catch People In, Not Out
56:07 The Standard That Builds Teams
01:01:24 Continuing the Journey
Explore this episode: Deep dive, show notes and references
https://www.awayre.com/leadership-philosophy-world-class-teams/
About The Business Philosopher Within You Podcast
Website: https://www.awayre.com/business-philosopher-within-you-podcast/
Be a Guest: https://www.awayre.com/business-philosopher-within-you-podcast-guest/
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What does it actually take for business philosophy to work in the real world?
In this episode, Bhavesh sits down with Bill Kasko, CEO of Frontline Source Group, to explore how philosophy becomes execution inside a growing company — and how execution, in turn, reshapes the philosophy itself.
Bill didn’t start with a perfectly defined set of principles. Instead, many of the ideas that now guide his company were forged through real decisions, client challenges, and moments of pressure — including navigating the realities of building and sustaining a 200+ employee organization.
At the center of the conversation is a simple but powerful framework: people, process, and service. What sounds straightforward becomes far more meaningful when you see how it’s applied consistently to solve problems, build trust, and create a business that doesn’t depend entirely on the founder.
This episode goes beyond abstract ideas and gets into what it actually looks like to operationalize philosophy — so it holds up when things get difficult.
In this conversation, you’ll hear:
Why most “people problems” are actually process problems
How a simple framework can solve complex business challenges
What it takes to build trust in a repeatable, system-driven way
How to create a company that can operate without constant founder involvement
Why real philosophy is shaped through execution, not written in advance
If you’re trying to close the gap between how your business should run and how it actually runs, this conversation will give you a clearer lens on where to focus.
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Episode Show Notes and Deep Dive:
📚 Deep Dive, Show Notes and Reference Reading: https://www.awayre.com/business-philosophy-execution-systems/
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Chapters:
00:00 From Philosophy to Execution (Why Most Never Get There)
03:14 What Forces a Founder to Get Clear (Most Avoid This)
08:14 Pressure Reveals the Truth (When Survival Is on the Line)
12:28 Trust as a System, Not a Feeling
18:33 Why Clients Choose You (It’s Not What You Think)
21:58 Diagnosing the Real Problem (Not What You Think)
28:39 When Insight Becomes Action (The 5-Year Warranty Bet)
33:10 Where Execution Actually Breaks (And Why Process Saves It)
40:30 Adapting Without Breaking the System (AI & Change)
43:21 Can a Business Run Without the Founder?
48:38 Values That Actually Get Enforced
53:06 The Hard Part: Making Philosophy Show Up in Daily Behavior
57:52 Where Building a Business Actually Gets Brutal
01:00:58 What Holds When Everything Starts to Break
01:09:58 Why Most Leaders Don’t Actually Listen (And the Cost)
01:14:25 The Layer Most Leaders Underestimate (But Everything Depends On It)
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Music by Yrii Semchyshyn (Thank You!): https://www.patreon.com/yuriisemchyshyn
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In this episode, we explore the shift from a $2M founder-led business to a $10M people-powered organization, and what it really takes for a company to stop needing its founder to grow.
Rob Gaedtke, President & CEO of KPS3, shares the internal and external transformation required to scale beyond yourself, not just systems and strategy, but identity, control and belief.
This is not a conversation about growth tactics.
It’s a conversation about what happens when:
We explore:
At its core, this episode asks a deeper question:
Is your company growing because of you… or in spite of you?
Chapters:
00:00 - Highlights and Introduction
02:39 - The $2M to $10M Shift Begins
07:15 - The Hidden Foundation of a People-Powered Company
09:24 - When Leaders Stop Being the Center
13:29 - What Happens When the Founder Steps Away
15:50 - The Philosophy Behind Letting Go
18:25 - Confidence Without Control
22:14 - The Tension Between Creativity and Discipline
25:21 - Curiosity Over Control in Leadership
28:28 - When Growth Breaks Your Old Beliefs
35:45 - Building the Next Version of the Company
40:54 - Resistance: The Cost of Becoming People-Powered
43:35 - The Founder Identity Trap
46:35 - Choosing New Beliefs as a Leader
48:33 - Letting Go Without Losing Yourself
51:40 - Designing a Culture That Scales Without You
53:23 - Human on Purpose: The Real Competitive Edge
56:31 - Staying Grounded While Everything Changes
59:40 - The Final Question: Does Your Company Still Need You?
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Music by Yrii Semchyshyn (Thank You!): https://www.patreon.com/yuriisemchyshyn
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What happens when a company refuses to treat profit as the ultimate goal?
In this episode of The Business Philosopher Within You, Bhavesh Naik speaks with Christian Agulles, CEO of PAE, about the philosophy of the Triple Bottom Line — the idea that successful companies must balance people, planet, and profit.
PAE is a certified B Corporation, and its leadership philosophy reflects a broader definition of success than traditional financial metrics. Instead of optimizing purely for profit, the company measures its impact on employees, communities, and the environment.
Christian shares how Stoic philosophy, reflection practices, and purpose-driven leadership shape the way he leads. The conversation explores why many leaders eventually question purely profit-driven growth, and how organizations can pursue both financial success and meaningful impact.
If you’re a founder, CEO, or leader thinking about how to build a business that can stand the test of time, this conversation offers a thoughtful perspective on leadership, purpose, and responsibility.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Highlights and Introduction
05:08 - B Corp and the Triple Bottom Line: People, Planet, Profit
07:44 - From Corporate Growth to Purpose
10:47 - Stoic Philosophy and Leadership Reflection
18:22 - Clean Air, Water and Energy for All
21:29 - 3 Pillars of the Strategic Vision
26:54 - The Living Building Challenge and Regenerative Design
32:17 - No Margin, No Mission: Balancing Profit with Purpose
37:54 - Building a Culture of Support
39:55 - Reframing Perspective: "Have To" to "Get To"
41:32 - Building Trust and Transparency as a CEO
48:49 - Leadership Trust and Organizational Change
56:35 - Humanizing Organizational Feedback
01:01:26 - Leading with Authenticity and Vulnerability
01:04:01 - Dark Night of the Soul
01:11:33 - Grounding in the Midst of Change
01:17:57 - Advice to Leaders Searching for Purpose
01:19:06 - Getting In Touch
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Music by Yrii Semchyshyn (Thank You!): https://www.patreon.com/yuriisemchyshyn
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What does it really take to build a company that lasts 40+ years?
In this episode, Todd Greenbaum, CEO of Input 1, reflects on culture, aspiration, resilience, and the inner evolution required to scale without breaking.
Most companies don’t survive a decade.
Todd Greenbaum joined Input 1 in 1984 when it managed $10 million in premiums with five employees. Today, the company services over $16 billion in annual premiums.
But this conversation isn’t about shortcuts or growth hacks, It’s about culture, aspiration, resilience, and the inner evolution required to build something that endures.
It’s about:
Todd shares hard-earned lessons on listening deeply, adapting to market shifts, and building a resilient organization that can stand the test of time.
If you're a founder, CEO, or leader building a business that you want to outlast you, this conversation is for you.
If this conversation resonates with you:
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Episode Show Notes and Deep Dive:
📚 Deep Dive, Show Notes and Reference Reading: https://www.awayre.com/enduring-growth-lessons-input-1/
Connect with Todd Greenbaum and Input 1:
🔗 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/todd-greenbaum-7161b0a2/
🌐 Website: https://www.input1.com/
🎞 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@input1
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🎬🎙️📖 Website: https://www.awayre.com/business-philosopher-within-you-podcast/
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🤔 Podcast: The Business Philosopher Within You Podcast
🗓️ Published: 2nd & 4th Wednesdays
📇 Episode: 36
📜 Format: Full Episode
📅 Date: February 25, 2026
👨💼 Guest: Todd Greenbaum, President & CEO, Input 1
🎙️ Host: Bhavesh Naik
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Highlights and Introduction
03:50 - Identifying a Real Market Need
06:33 - How Vision Evolves Over Decades
10:48 - Rethinking Total Addressable Market
14:34 - When Your “Why” Changes
17:53 - Designing a Culture That Supports Growth
19:58 - Innovation in a Regulated Industry
23:14 - Sustainable Competitive Advantage
25:06 - The Discipline of Listening
30:02 - Making Leadership Meetings Matter
32:38 - The CEO’s Dark Night of the Soul
36:55 - The Evolution from Founder to Leader
40:34 - Letting Go and Empowering Others
44:46 - Preserving Culture in Remote Work
48:26 - Grounding Strategies as a Leader
51:04 - Getting In Touch with Todd Greenbaum
54:02 - Parting Reflection: The Drivers of the Economy
Music by Yrii Semchyshyn (Thank You!): https://www.patreon.com/yuriisemchyshyn
What does it really take to scale a company from zero to over 1,000 employees with leadership rooted in kindness -- without burning out your people or yourself?
In this episode of The Business Philosopher Within You, host Bhavesh Naik sits down with Ilya Vinogradsky, Founder, CTO, and Board Member of Astound Digital, to explore what he calls The Kindness Principle—a people-first leadership philosophy that helped him grow a global organization through booms, busts, acquisitions, and massive complexity.
Ilya has spent over two decades building and scaling digital businesses. Starting in the early days of e-commerce, he grew Astound from a small founding team into a global digital consultancy with 1,000+ employees, 600+ certified engineers, 3,000+ solutions delivered, and over $10 billion in customer value created.
But this conversation isn’t about tactics alone.
It’s about how leadership must evolve as scale increases—and why kindness, culture, and human-centered decision-making become more important, not less.
In this conversation, we explore:
At its core, this episode is about applied business philosophy.
Not abstract values.
Not posters on the wall.
But philosophy translated into daily decisions, leadership behavior, and organizational design—especially under pressure.
If you’re a founder, CEO, or leader who wants to build a business that can scale beyond you and outlive you, this conversation will challenge how you think about leadership, culture, and success.
If this conversation resonates with you:
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Episode Show Notes and Deep Dive:
📚 Deep Dive, Show Notes and Reference Reading: https://www.awayre.com/scaling-kind-leadership-0-1000-employees/
Connect with Ilya Vinodradsky and Astound Digital:
🔗 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinograd/
🌐 Website: https://astounddigital.com/
🎞 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@AstoundDigital
"The Business Philosopher Within You" Podcast:
🎬🎙️📖 Website: https://www.awayre.com/business-philosopher-within-you-podcast/
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🤔 Podcast: The Business Philosopher Within You Podcast
🗓️ Published: 2nd & 4th Wednesdays
📇 Episode: 35
📜 Format: Full Episode
📅 Date: February 11, 2026
👨💼 Guest: Ilya Vinogradsky, Founder, CTO, Astound Digital
🎙️ Host: Bhavesh Naik
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Highlights and Introduction
03:54 - Astound Digital: Naming the Company
13:31 - Identifying the Customer Base
18:41 - Journey to Success
24:24 - Company Culture Insights
28:20 - Cultural Blueprint Dynamics
32:15 - HR's Role in Company Culture
33:59 - Organizational Structure Explained
37:09 - Depth of the Organizational Structure
38:36 - Promises and Perils of Company Acquisitions
42:57 - Future Vision for Astound Digital
45:49 - Advice for Successor Leadership
47:50 - Impact of AI on the Marketplace
52:02 - Advice to Younger Self
54:36 - Evolution of the Company
58:23 - Personal Grounding Principles
1:00:59 - Getting In Touch and Parting Words
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Music by Yrii Semchyshyn (Thank You!): https://www.patreon.com/yuriisemchyshyn
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What does it take to build a company that performs at the highest level, and stays human at the core?
In this second part of my conversation with Mike Chaput, CEO of Endsight, we go beyond values-driven culture and explore the disciplines, systems and operational rhythms that make an organization truly self-sustaining.
Mike’s journey -- buying his first business at 24 with borrowed money, failing, rebuilding, and ultimately creating one of the top-performing IT support companies in the country -- gives him a rare, grounded perspective on what “enduring success” actually looks like.
Today, Endsight is a 140-person company generating $35M+ in annual revenue with a 20% EBITDA margin, putting it in the top 1% of its industry. But the most extraordinary part? Mike built it through people-first leadership, relentless clarity on core values and a deep commitment to operational excellence.
In this episode, we explore:
If you’re a founder, a CEO, or a leader who wants to build a company that outlives you, this conversation is full of gold.
📌 If this episode sparks insight or challenges your thinking, leave a question or reflection in the comments. This community grows through the questions we ask together.
Like, subscribe, share, and most importantly… keep asking better questions.
Episode Show Notes and Deep Dive:
📚 Deep Dive, Show Notes and Reference Reading: https://www.awayre.com/activate-company-culture-playbook/
Connect with Mike Chaput:
🌐 Website: https://www.endsight.net
🔗 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelchaput/
🎞 YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@thechaputperspective
"The Business Philosopher Within You" Podcast:
🎬🎙️📖 Website: https://www.awayre.com/business-philosopher-within-you-podcast/
🦸♀️Be a Guest: https://www.awayre.com/business-philosopher-within-you-podcast-guest/
🤔 Podcast: The Business Philosopher Within You Podcast
🗓️ Published: 2nd & 4th Wednesdays
📇 Episode: 34
📜 Format: Full Episode
📅 Date: November 26, 2025
👨💼 Guest: Mike Chaput, Founder and CEO, Endsight
🎙️ Host: Bhavesh Naik
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Highlights and Introduction
02:35 - Creating an Executable Value System
09:31 - Core Values as Constraining Behaviors
15:16 - Hiring for Culture and Values Vs Skill
23:06 - Cultural Orientation After Hiring
25:54 - Operationalizing Company Culture
31:41 - Achieving 20% Profit Margins
35:49 - Non-Negotiables for Success
40:43 - Impact of AI on the Future
46:08 - Human Vs AI: Insights, Perspectives and a Prediction
47:24 - Darkest Moment Reflection
53:55 - Finding Peace and Inspiration
56:45 - Lasting Words of Wisdom and Getting In Touch
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Music by Yrii Semchyshyn (Thank You!): https://www.patreon.com/yuriisemchyshyn
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Is it possible to scale a company to substantial revenues while nurturing a truly values-driven, people-centric culture without sacrificing purpose?
In this episode of "The Business Philosopher Within You," host Bhavesh Naik sits down with Mike Chaput, CEO of Endsight, to explore this compelling question. Mike shares his journey from the founding of Endsight to its current success, emphasizing the significance of a people-centric culture and the alignment of vision with daily operations.
Tune in and you will develop your own unique insights into how a well-crafted vision can include all stakeholders, creating a win-win scenario for everyone involved.
Mike discusses the iterative nature of core values and how they guide company culture and decisions. He also fleshes out the pros and cons of setting Big Hairy Audacious Goals (BHAGs) to inspire and motivate teams.
Join us as we uncover the secrets to building a high-performing organization that stands the test of time. Tune in to discover how you can apply these principles to your own business journey.
Episode Show Notes and Deep Dive:
📚 Deep Dive, Show Notes and Reference Reading: https://www.awayre.com/scale-revenue-values-leadership-ceo-lessons/
Connect with Mike Chaput:🌐 Website: https://www.endsight.net🔗 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelchaput/
"The Business Philosopher Within You" Podcast:
🎬🎙️📖 Website: https://www.awayre.com/business-philosopher-within-you-podcast/
🦸♀️Be a Guest: https://www.awayre.com/business-philosopher-within-you-podcast-guest/
🤔 Podcast: The Business Philosopher Within You Podcast
📇 Episode: 33
📜 Format: Full Episode
📅 Date: November 12, 2025
👨💼 Guest: Mike Chaput, Founder and CEO, Endsight
🎙️ Host: Bhavesh Naik
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Highlights and Introduction
03:34 - The Origin of Endsight
06:45 - Understanding Vision in Business
13:28 - Inclusive Vision for Success
16:22 - Leadership as a Follower of Vision
20:20 - Setting Big Hairy Audacious Goals
22:14 - Employee Engagement Strategies
25:28 - Vision at the Start of Endsight
29:35 - Vision, Direction, Lean Practices and Quality Control
34:36 - Bringing Vision to Daily Operations
38:28 - Executing the Strategic Plan
41:15 - Importance of One-on-One Meetings
45:33 - Accountability as a Leadership Tool
51:21 - Accountability Practices at Endsight
55:33 - Defining Core Values
57:50 - Embracing the Business Philosopher Mindset
59:36 - Identifying Core Values
1:08:27 - End of Part 1: Vision and Values | Part 2 Covers: Strategies and Disciplines
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Music by Yrii Semchyshyn (Thank You!): https://www.patreon.com/yuriisemchyshyn
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How can the Virtual CFO business model propel small and mid-size enterprises to long-lasting success?
In this conversation, Bhavesh Naik interviews Ellen Wood, CEO and co-founder of VCFO, who shares her journey of pioneering the virtual CFO concept. They discuss the importance of understanding client needs, the role of culture in financial management, and the lessons learned from navigating economic challenges. Ellen emphasizes the significance of focusing on shareholder value and the need for entrepreneurs to be aware of their company's worth. The conversation concludes with Ellen's insights on leadership, grounding oneself amidst change, and the importance of integrity and people-first values in business.
Ellen shares her experiences and insights on the role of a virtual CFO, the importance of understanding client needs, and the psychological and cultural aspects of financial management.
Throughout the conversation, Ellen delves into the founding story of vcfo, the challenges she faced, and the strategies she employed to overcome them.
She discusses the impact of the 2008 financial crisis on her business and how she adapted to the changing landscape. Ellen also highlights the significance of assessing shareholder value and aligning financial management with client values.
Among the topics we explored:
Listeners will gain valuable insights into Ellen's leadership style, her approach to supporting clients' value systems, and her strategies for internal company growth. The episode also covers the differences between organizational and accountability charts and how vcfo implements these concepts to foster growth.
Tune in to discover actionable advice and strategies from Ellen Wood that can help you enhance your financial management practices and drive business success.
CHAPTERS:
00:00 - Introduction
02:47 - The Genesis of vcfo
09:57 - Vision for vcfo and Who It Benefits
13:37 - The Perspective of a Virtual CFO
17:55 - Understanding the Ideal Client
19:44 - Psychological and Cultural Aspects of Financial Management
22:29 - Supporting Clients' Value Systems
26:37 - Internal Strategies for Company Growth
29:27 - Organizational Vs. Accountability Chart
31:46 - Honoring a Legacy: Award-Winning Leadership
33:11 - Overcoming Obstacles and Learning from Crisis
38:30 - Insights from the 2008 Financial Crisis
41:33 - Entrepreneurial Journey: Navigating Change While Remaining Grounded
46:30 - Importance of Assessing Shareholder Value
49:14 - Getting In Touch with Ellen Wood and vcfo
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Music by Yrii Semchyshyn (Thank You!): https://www.patreon.com/yuriisemchyshyn
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Deep Dive, Show Notes and Further Reading: https://www.awayre.com/fractional-cfos-virtual-cfo-lasting-value-smbs/
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