The one with David Droga, as he exits his role as CEO of Accenture Song, about the CEO learning curve, the value of intimidation, friction and starting at the end.

In this episode, releasing as the legendary marketer and executive steps down from the CEO’s role, David and I talk about why every great CEO is a prompter, what it takes to be completely disruptive, how organizational complexity can emerge as a tax on growth, and the enduring (maybe increasing) need for emotional connection.

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In this episode Mark and I talk about the evolution of one of the quintessential brand battles in marketing history, why word-of-mouth is the original algorithm, and his framework for deciding when to extend a brand into a new category or build a new one for new tastes.

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In this episode Micky, the one-time CEO of Bonobos, and I talk about her experiences on both sides of what’s all too-often a divide, what’s missing in the CEO/CMO conversation, and why company culture should be seen as a pre-requisite for growth.

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In this episode, Colin and I talk about why he drove a strategic shift from product-led marketing to brand-led, the end of the funnel, what all marketing—and buying—has in common, and how simplicity can help anchor marketing in times of great complexity.

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In this conversation, Kelsey and Shelley unpack McKinsey’s latest research into the CEO and CMO relationship which at the risk of giving away the punchline isn’t that good. We get into and underneath the numbers and the broader and bottom-line implications on growth that they illustrate. (Look for their full report here: The CMO’s comeback: Aligning the C-suite to drive customer-centric growth)

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In this conversation with Esi, we covered a lot of ground but kept coming back to some fundamental truths about desire, reach, engagement, and conversion. Esi’s been a CEO, GM and President and she brings all that and more to our conversation and everything she does as a marketing and growth leader.

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In this conversation I sit with Cannes Lions CeO Simon Cook, to talk about what we both heard at the Festival’s inaugural Global CEO Forum, which I moderated and facilitated. Some 50 CEO’s from around the world took part (Under The Chatham House Rule), and in this episode Simon and I explore what we heard from them, creativity as a financial engine, and why CEOs who don’t embrace it may be quietly choosing stagnation.

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In this episode I talk with Meta’s CMO and VP Analytics Alex Schultz, whose work has probably influenced the work of more marketers than just about anyone else’s over the past decade. Besides correcting my misperception about the origins of the “performance marketing” phrase, Alex explains why he thinks performance marketing should die, driving change, the value of full funnel approaches, and how to properly evaluate that which can’t be measured among other things.

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In this episode I talk with Rare Beauty CMO Katie Welch about CEO’s who give CMOs the permission to do what they do best, the lessons beauty-category marketing has for others, and why you have to avoid “tactic soup.”

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When I first heard Tomás speak at a conference about problem-solving and attribution, I knew I wanted to have him on the show. In this conversation, we talk about marketing's deep hunger for actual solutions, the cost of vanity metrics, and among other things, the difference between certainty and statistics.

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