The Change

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Jayne McCartney from Season 3 Episode 6 

Enjoy the best moments from Cath and Laura's conversation with sexologist Jayne McCartney. This minisode touches on the importance of communication at all life stages, the variations in midlife sexuality, and Jayne's passionate advocacy for better support during milestones like menopause.

With thanks to Jayne McCartney. 

Jayne McCartney’s instagram 

Jayne McCartney website 

Mentions: 

Come As You Are by Dr. Emily Metkoski

Welcome to Sex by Dr Melissa Kang & Yumi Stynes 

Scarlet teen website 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Audio Producer: 

Samantha Thomas 

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This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Amanda Ramsay from Season 3 Episode 4 

Relive some of the best moments from our chat  with Amanda Ramsay, your "ageless beauty bestie" and makeup artist specializing in women over 40. This minisode captures Amanda's inspiring career journey in the beauty industry and dives into her key insights. Hear about the pivotal moment that shifted her perspective on midlife makeup, even after years in the business. Plus, get a taste of her encouraging advice on experimenting with your look and the uplifting power of simple beauty routines.

With thanks to Amanda Ramsay. 

Amanda Ramsay’s instagram 

Amanda Ramsay website 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Audio Producer: 

Samantha Thomas 

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 
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This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Kerryn Mayne from Season 3 Episode 9 

Cathy and Laura catch up with the inspiring Kerryn Mayne. We discuss the realities of balancing life as a police officer, mother of four (including twins!), and author. Hear Kerryn's insights on the challenges and her strategies for finding time to write.

With thanks to Kerryn Mayne. 

Kerryn Mayne’s instagram 

Kerryn Mayne website

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Audio Producer: 

Samantha Thomas 

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 
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This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Tracey Williams from Season 1 Episode 2

Why do some people thrive on change while others struggle? Get the key insights from Cathy and Laura's conversation with clinical psychologist Tracey Williams. Discover the psychology behind our reactions to change and learn how to "flip the script" – even in tough times.

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Audio Producer: 

Samantha Thomas 

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

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This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Kat Taylor from Season 3 Episode 8.

Kat Taylor, Season 2 winner of Ch9’s Parental Guidance sits down with Cath and Laura to have a hilarious chat about the roller coaster of peri/menopause, parenting and everything in between. 

Kat talks about the need for safe spaces for women to share their experiences and support each other. 

We talk about Kat’s experience with perimenopause and the challenges she has faced. Including the emotional breakdown she had while searching for a sentimental book, which led her to discover that she was in the thick of perimenopause. 

With thanks to Kat Taylor. 

Kat Taylor's Instagram

Kat Taylor’s TikTok

Mentions and fabulous menopause resources:

Dr Fatima Khan - Menopause Specialist 

Dr Ginni Mansberg 

Dr Mary Claire

Dr Naomi Potter

Dr Jen Hacker Pearson

Dr Louise Newsome - Menopause Doctor

Dr Ceri Cashell

Kaz Cooke

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Audio Producer: 

Samantha Thomas 

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Anna Grosman from Season 2 Episode 5.

This week Cathy and Laura chat about female desire, male escorts and shame with Anna Grosman. 

Fifty-two-year-old Anna Grosman, is an accomplished entrepreneur with a passion for empowering women. As one of the founders of Aphrodisiac Male Escorts which thrived from 2012 – 2018, Anna is now the founder and owner of HerConfidant - an elite male escort agency for women. 

Warm, nurturing and no-nonsense, Anna advocates for female sexuality without stigma and shame. In fact, she’ll be the reassuring voice you’ll hear on the phone if and when you decide to book an appointment! 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Guest: Anna Grosman 

https://www.instagram.com/herconfidant/

https://herconfidant.com.au

Audio Producer: 

Samantha Thomas 

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

This minisode is an edit from our full interview Faye and Lauren Browne from Season 3 Episode 3.

Faye and Lauren Browne, founders of Motto Fashions, discuss their journey in the fashion industry and the importance of feeling confident and empowered through fashion. 

They emphasise the need to break free from societal expectations and embrace personal style at any age. At age 70, Motto founder Faye shares how she still loves to experiment and have fun with her clothes, inspiring and encouraging women around Australia to feel good and wear what they love.

The women chat about the power of fashion to transform and uplift and why Motto’s ‘F*** IT’ era campaign challenges ageism and encourages women to be true to themselves at every age.

With thanks to Faye and Lauren Browne of Motto Fashions. 

Find out more about them via Instagram or online:

Lauren Browne

Faye Browne

Motto Fashions Website 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Audio Producer: 

Samantha Thomas 

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

And don’t forget to follow The Change on Instagram @the_change_pod and email us with your questions, feedback and ideas: [email protected]

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Steph De Sousa from Season 3 Episode 11.

Steph, a former contestant on MasterChef, discusses her experience on the show and her journey to becoming a successful social media influencer. 

Cath and Laura ask Steph all the pervy questions about the audition process for MasterChef, her favourite Aldi centre aisle purchase and the lessons she learned about being her authentic self. 

Steph explains how she has built a large following on social media by creating relatable and easy-to-follow cooking content and her exciting plans coming soon!! 

And of course we ask Steph about her menopause journey.

With thanks to Steph de Sousa. 

Steph de Sousa’s instagram 

Easy Recipe Gang website

Mentions: 

Air Fryer Queen by Steph de Sousa 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Audio Producer: 

Samantha Thomas 

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠

This minisode is an edit from our full interview with Georgia Van Cuylenburg from Season 2 episode 9

Trigger Warning: Listener discretion is advised. This episode discusses eating disorders, child sexual violence, mental health, and trauma. If you find yourself in need of support please see the support listed at the end of the show notes.

Georgia Van Cuylenburg, actor, podcaster and activist, knows a thing or two about resilience. 

While her story and name may be familiar, it’s not because of her words or work. Instead it is the words and work of her brothers Hugh and Josh Van Cuylenburg the hosts of the award-winning podcast, The Imperfects.

Until now Georgia’s story has only been told in parts and not by Georgia herself. Now it is time for Georgia to reclaim her story and share her perspective and version of events.

Georgia spoke exclusively to Laura Jackel and Cathy O’Brien of The Change podcast in a two part special about her childhood, her conversations with Hugh and their ongoing relationship. 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Guest: 

Georgia Van Cuylenburg https://www.instagram.com/georgiavanc/

Audio Producer: 

Samantha Thomas 

Support Services: 

Lifeline 13 11 14

1800RESPECT 1800 737 732

Beyond Blue 1300 224 636  https://www.beyondblue.org.au/get-support/urgent-help

13YARN 13 92 76 

Butterfly Foundation 

Support for eating disorders and body image issues 1800 33 4673

Blue Knot

This is a support service for adult survivors of childhood trauma and abuse, parents, partners, family and friends. Phone 1300 657 380, 9 am-5 pm, 7 days a week.

Relationships Australia: 1300 364 277

Bravehearts 

Bravehearts can offer support for adult survivors of child sexual abuse

Information & Support Line 1800 272 831 operates during the hours of 8:30am to 4:30pm, Monday to Friday AEST (hours may vary on public holidays).

If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, call 000 immediately.

In our last episode for the Summer Series we discuss the significance of Australia Day, reflecting on its implications for Indigenous communities and the discomfort surrounding the holiday. 

We celebrate the Australian of the Year Awards, highlighting individuals who have made significant contributions to society. 

Laura shares a fabulous Guardian article with an extract from Naomi Watt’s book “Dare I Say It”. We explore our thoughts on the drive for personal growth and ambition balanced with retirement aspirations. 

We round out our Summer Series discussing Cath’s personal reflection on my mental health journey, highlighting the importance of support and awareness, significant cultural events of 2015, and the evolution of music and media. 

Mentions: 

Australian of the Year 2025

The Guardian: Naomi Watts on movies, midlife and menopause: ‘You are hot, and then you are not’

Liz Gumbiner: We can’t get overwhelmed

Triple J Hottest 100 1989 

Hosts:

Cathy O’Brien https://www.instagram.com/cathy_l_obrien/

Laura Jackel https://www.instagram.com/lauracjackel/

Audio Producer: 

Marissa Roberts: https://www.instagram.com/marissarobertsofficial/

Thanks for listening to The Change, a fully independent podcast. 

We appreciate your support and listens, so if you like what we do please tell your friends and leave a five star review! 

Send us a voice message here: ⁠⁠https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-change-pod/message⁠