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Hour 2 - Segment 2 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 2 of 4 -

And welcome back. News Talk ninety eight nine WRLD joined by Rusty Clevenger and Bill Ryan. Let's start off with the two eighty seven g program. Basically, deputizing, deputies as ICE agents. We'll start with Rusty Clevenger.

Do you agree with this program? Would you be supportive of it? I do. There has been some fear, that's been put out with or or by different individuals about the program itself, but I I believe that's largely because of the opposition to it. But I am in agreement with it and would participate in it, deputizing, our deputies to work alongside these ladies and gentlemen.

We've got to consider we've got people illegally in our country, that are perpetuating crime, and we need to make sure that if they're here illegally and they're committing crimes against, the people in our county that they need to be removed. First, they need to be punished for committing crime, but they need to leave Spartanburg. They need to leave US and come back. They need to repatriate and come back and do it legally just like everybody else has. So, when I speak about the fear mongering, you know, we're we're talking about agents being or, you know, going into schools and pulling kids out or, you know, wearing masks and stuff like that.

That that wouldn't happen, if a deputy was alongside them. I can tell you that they would not be going into schools. They would not be threatening our children, and certainly, wouldn't be wearing masks because we don't have anything to hide. We have nothing to be embarrassed about, and it will be, good information made. You know, we wanna make sure our deputies are following through and making sure that the information we have is true and correct to make sure we affect a good arrest and do what we need to do and and keep the fear down that's being perpetuated out here.

Do you agree with that, mister Ryan? Yes, sir. Absolutely. You know, the day that I announced, you had me on the air on the third, and that was one of the first questions you asked me. And I took a stance on that from day one that we would support two eighty seven g.

Not only are we gonna support it, we're gonna provide any assets that we need to provide to them to ensure that they can accomplish their task. You know, as mister Clevenger said, this is a this is a rule of law. That's what I think a lot of people don't realize that these are people that have physically broken the law, that have been identified as being true threats to the people of this country, and we as law enforcement officers have a responsibility at the end of the day, number one, to protect the constitution of The United States. But as part of that, we have to protect those people in The United States. So we're gonna provide those assets if they see a need to come here into South Carolina, into Spartanburg County and provide them the assets that they need to be able to, finish up their jobs.

You know, one of the problems that people are seeing is just the sensationalization of what is taking place. You've got a lot of, we'll say non conservative media outlets across this nation that are choosing to push an agenda. That's just not true, and there's been several times that I've been contacted asking what I support them going into schools and taking children away from families. I don't know that that's ever, you know, there's so much fake news out there when it comes to things like that. I've never had anybody actually show me any evidence of anything like that, but, certainly, we're not going to do that.

We're not gonna take those children away from their, parents in any way, but, absolutely, we have a responsibility constitutional responsibility to stand with the federal government on that. And that leads me to my next question. We'll stay with you, mister Ryan. Yes, sir. Should ICE determine that their presence is ne ...

Hour 2 - Segment 1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Sheriff's Runoff Debate - Rusty Clevenger vs. Bill Rhyne hosted by Charlie James part 1 of 4 -

And welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to your Spartanburg County sheriff's debate. We've got Bill Ron and Rusty Clevenger joining us this afternoon. The candidates have been advised of the rules for the debate, and they have agreed to them. So let's just jump right into it. I've asked, texters to, send us questions as well.

But first, we wanna start off with just an introduction. Fellows, give us a little ninety second introduction of yourself. We'll start with you, Bill Ryan. Thanks, Charlie. I appreciate you guys having this today.

Yeah. My name's Bill Ryan. I am, 50 years old, born and raised in Spartanburg County. I, graduated from Chapman High School and, joined United States Marine Corps. After I got out of the Marine Corps, I went to work with the Spartanburg County Sheriff's Office where I spent a majority of my time working in community policing.

I was a resident deputy in the Arcadia Fair Forest area. In February, I transitioned to the South Carolina Highway Patrol working in various roles across the, Upstate Of South Carolina, predominantly in Greenville and Spartanburg until I went over to the ACE team and rode the motorcycle. In 02/2008, I transitioned over into public relations where I remained until I retired in 2022. I retired as lieutenant over the community relations, public relations, public education recruiting, and for you for the entire state of South Carolina. I went to work with American Services as director of training there.

I was I was directly responsible for approximately 1,500 officers over seven states. Unfortunately, that company sold out after the death of mister Harrison, and I had the opportunity to return to the highway patrol. I returned to the highway patrol's community outreach coordinator where I remained for the next two and a half years until I resigned on June 2 in order to announce that I was running for sheriff here in Spartanburg County. You know, often ask why I'm running for sheriff, and I tell people I just have such a vested interest. I just had a burden put on my heart to run.

You know, I was born and raised in this county. I raised my children in this county. My grandchildren are likely to be raised in this county, and I just have a vested interest in where this county is going and just recognize that the sheriff's office is where quality of life starts for so many people within our county. Alright. Thank you very much.

Rusty Clevenger? Good afternoon. Thanks everyone for listening in. I really appreciate you guys, putting this on for us. My name is Rusty Clevenger.

I'm 61 years old. I'm almost, end of this month will be forty years as a public servant for Spartanburg County. I began my career in 1985, of course, with the sheriff's office where I was uniform patrol deputy. I stayed there for approximately two and a half years. And after graduating the academy in 1987, I applied for and was given a a chance to start investigations, and that's where I've been ever since.

Start off narcotics and vice investigation. I was then promoted to, detective where I stayed for a number of years. The last five of which of the eleven year stamp with the sheriff's office was violent crime and homicide detective. After then in 1997, I was asked to go to the solicitor's office where I stayed as an investigator doing violent crime investigation. In the last sixteen and a half, of my career, as your Spartanburg County coroner doing death investigation and dealing with victim families, and that's what it's all about for me.

I've been asked about why I'm running for sheriff, and a lot of it has to do with getting to the bottom, getting to the truth of a matter, and being able to assist victim families in the worst time of need, and also making sure that that crime is solved. Alright. Our first question comes from a, a texter, and it was one ...

H1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Charlie James Show

And welcome to the program on your Thursday afternoon. Don't forget coming up at 04:00 this afternoon, just a little under an hour from now, we will be having a debate between, the these candidates for Spartanburg County sheriff. You don't wanna miss out on that. It's gonna be, very interesting, debate. Mister Clevenger, mister Ryan, gonna be squaring off here.

Before you go to the polls and vote for your Spartanburg County sheriff, this is a very important race, so you don't wanna don't want to, miss out on this opportunity. Also, don't forget, coming up tomorrow, we'll be talking with lieutenant governor Pamela Evatt in the, 04:00 hour about her race for governor of South Carolina. And we got a story coming up also this afternoon in just a few minutes, where a judge has ruled that a transgender student in Berkeley County can use the bathroom according to how they feel that particular day. We'll talk to Sarita Edgerton about the bathroom bill coming up at, 05:06 this afternoon. So busy, busy day going on, but we had a special guest in the Upstate today.

Do you know who it was? Anybody know who dropped by over in Anderson? Attorney general Pam Bondi. Yeah. She was, in the Upstate.

She dropped by mama pen's restaurant, posted a picture with her and the staff, over on Facebook. She was in the Upstate for a high level law enforcement roundtable in Greenville focused on strengthening partnerships between state and federal agencies, uh-huh, to combat crime. That's according to South Carolina attorney general, Alan Wilson. It was an honor to host attorney general Pam Bondi this morning in Greenville where federal, state, and local law enforcement came together to discuss human trafficking, drug trafficking, illegal immigration, and the alarming rise in acts of antisemitism, said attorney general Alan Wilson. Never has they been a more united front between state and federal partners, and, let's see.

Where where is that Federal Logan anyway, Wilson's office said the panel also included US attorney Brian Sterling, principal deputy, deputy administrator of the DEA Robert Murphy, South Carolina sheriffs and police chiefs, FBI, DEA agents, members of the US attorney's office, and federal lawmakers, including congressman Joe Wilson, congressman William Timmons, congresswoman Sherry Biggs, and congressman Russell Fry. So, man, I wish they would have told me that was gonna be dropping by. I would have baked a cake or something. That would have been, awesome. I would really like to meet Pam Bondy.

That would be a cool thing. But but we're gonna be talking about law enforcement a lot today, especially with the, debate coming up in, at 04:00. You don't wanna, again, you don't wanna miss out on that because we've got a serious crime problem. We've got fights in Downtown Greenville. I don't know if you guys heard about this, but over in Malden, somebody shot up a neighborhood.

52 rounds were fired. Three homes were hit. We've got again, we got those fights in Downtown Greenville. We got this happening. I mean, it's it's it's like we have this culture of lawlessness going on right now, and we gotta make sure something gets done about it.

And one of the things that I really wanna talk to the candidates about because I remember when they were bringing in the Spartanburgers, they were building the new baseball stadium over in Spartanburg, and I was asking people, hey. You know, it's just kind of a fun little segment. Hey. What do you think the, what do you think the name of the new baseball team ought to be? And we had things like the criminals, the murder burgers.

I it was just I was like I was shocked that the reputation that Spartanburg has, whether it is warranted or not, they've got that reputation of being crime ridden. So what what is the new sheriff gonna be able to do about that? That's the big question. Because it's going on all over the place, and it just seem and people are get ...

And welcome back to the program. Let's go to the WRID chalk line. We'll talk to Dean in Cashville. How are you doing, Dean? Not bad, Charlie.

And I don't know what the message someone's seeing on Facebook was, but the service you're doing for this community is immense. And the reason I mentioned this is the fault you all cut you all are the voice of the Carolinas. And that's that means a lot of people do not realize what's at stake in this sheriff's race. Yeah. Charlie, you if you have not been to Downtown Spartanburg, the Montgomery Building that has been restored, there is the lobby is vintage nineteen twenties.

It's gorgeous. They've got another new hotel, and I've not been to Boiling Springs in years. Right. Their target is amazing. So what I'm saying is there's a lot of money coming into Spartanburg, a lot of development.

And that when you talk to the sheriff, this is one issue that it's like going to Downtown Spartanburg. That would be a great thing to do. This is why what you're doing is so important and why I wanted I just wanted to thank you for what you do. And the Montgomery Building in Spartanburg is gorgeous. Well, I appreciate it.

Thank you very much, Dean. Let's go to David in Greenville and talk to him. David, what's on your mind this afternoon? Well, you're talking, I'm one of those people like you who was glad that, I see the police drive through drive through my neighborhood. Yeah.

Well, this morning, I went to parties to have my twice weekly breakfast there. Alright. There is this, no time to make it racial here, but this black woman had a couple of small children with her. Well, the, two police officers come in. Guess what?

The smallest child started dealing when he saw police walk up. Oh, no. What? He's screaming and crying and checking. I hate you, police.

I hate you. Oh my gosh. And that's that's it. I mean, you people teach their children to be afraid of police officers, and that is completely the wrong thing to do because who are they gonna run to if there's a problem? I appreciate it, David.

Thank you. Let's go to Melissa in Malden. Melissa, welcome to you. Hello, Charlie. How are you?

I'm doing good. How about yourself? Wait. Melissa from Malden. Yes, ma'am.

What's going on? You know what I wanna talk about? So I wanna talk about our senior citizens and Social Security and all of that. I ordered a pizza yesterday, and this poor man came with a walker. I mean, not a walker, a cane, and a pizza in one hand, cane in the other, walking to my front door.

He's 80 years old, and he cannot survive of his Social Security check. I I mean, I literally talked to him for, like, ten minutes. Yeah. But my husband's in the same boat. He's 70.

He's living off Social Security. And my thing is is, like, all of this money that American taxpayers have sent for the illegals through Social Security Yeah. The during the Biden administration. You are right. When are our so when when are our seniors gonna get a a check?

A decent raise. They need it they need to be repaid because this is ridiculous. This poor man is delivering pizzas at 80 years old. Right. Yeah.

Just do. A cane. Yeah. I understand. Unacceptable.

It is unacceptable. And and then the Biden administration, they literally stole money from taxpayers. I appreciate it, Melissa. Stole and it's not just the illegal aliens. It's the people that are getting Social Security illegally.

Those are the only people that the Republicans are looking at kicking off the Social Security roles and the Medicare roles and the Medicaid roles are the people that are gaming the system. They're the ones that are stealing from the American people, but the Democrats, they're like, oh, no. We have to protect those. Alright. I got a nasty.

I got a nasty email yesterday. We told you about the story yesterday about, these animal advocates who basically, according to the sheriff's department, stole this little dog named Max. They named it Max. That was I think the dog's r ...

H1 - Segment 1 - Thurs Aug 14 2025 - The Charlie James Show

And welcome to the program on your Thursday afternoon. Don't forget coming up at 04:00 this afternoon, just a little under an hour from now, we will be having a debate between, the these candidates for Spartanburg County sheriff. You don't wanna miss out on that. It's gonna be, very interesting, debate. Mister Clevenger, mister Ryan, gonna be squaring off here.

Before you go to the polls and vote for your Spartanburg County sheriff, this is a very important race, so you don't wanna don't want to, miss out on this opportunity. Also, don't forget, coming up tomorrow, we'll be talking with lieutenant governor Pamela Evatt in the, 04:00 hour about her race for governor of South Carolina. And we got a story coming up also this afternoon in just a few minutes, where a judge has ruled that a transgender student in Berkeley County can use the bathroom according to how they feel that particular day. We'll talk to Sarita Edgerton about the bathroom bill coming up at, 05:06 this afternoon. So busy, busy day going on, but we had a special guest in the Upstate today.

Do you know who it was? Anybody know who dropped by over in Anderson? Attorney general Pam Bondi. Yeah. She was, in the Upstate.

She dropped by mama pen's restaurant, posted a picture with her and the staff, over on Facebook. She was in the Upstate for a high level law enforcement roundtable in Greenville focused on strengthening partnerships between state and federal agencies, uh-huh, to combat crime. That's according to South Carolina attorney general, Alan Wilson. It was an honor to host attorney general Pam Bondi this morning in Greenville where federal, state, and local law enforcement came together to discuss human trafficking, drug trafficking, illegal immigration, and the alarming rise in acts of antisemitism, said attorney general Alan Wilson. Never has they been a more united front between state and federal partners, and, let's see.

Where where is that Federal Logan anyway, Wilson's office said the panel also included US attorney Brian Sterling, principal deputy, deputy administrator of the DEA Robert Murphy, South Carolina sheriffs and police chiefs, FBI, DEA agents, members of the US attorney's office, and federal lawmakers, including congressman Joe Wilson, congressman William Timmons, congresswoman Sherry Biggs, and congressman Russell Fry. So, man, I wish they would have told me that was gonna be dropping by. I would have baked a cake or something. That would have been, awesome. I would really like to meet Pam Bondy.

That would be a cool thing. But but we're gonna be talking about law enforcement a lot today, especially with the, debate coming up in, at 04:00. You don't wanna, again, you don't wanna miss out on that because we've got a serious crime problem. We've got fights in Downtown Greenville. I don't know if you guys heard about this, but over in Malden, somebody shot up a neighborhood.

52 rounds were fired. Three homes were hit. We've got again, we got those fights in Downtown Greenville. We got this happening. I mean, it's it's it's like we have this culture of lawlessness going on right now, and we gotta make sure something gets done about it.

And one of the things that I really wanna talk to the candidates about because I remember when they were bringing in the Spartanburgers, they were building the new baseball stadium over in Spartanburg, and I was asking people, hey. You know, it's just kind of a fun little segment. Hey. What do you think the, what do you think the name of the new baseball team ought to be? And we had things like the criminals, the murder burgers.

I it was just I was like I was shocked that the reputation that Spartanburg has, whether it is warranted or not, they've got that reputation of being crime ridden. So what what is the new sheriff gonna be able to do about that? That's the big question. Because it's going on all over the place, and it just seem and ...

Hour 1

You guys like camping? I love camping. I think camping is great. I haven't been camping in a long, long time because my wife believes that camping her idea of camping is staying in a three star hotel where they don't have turndown service. I like to get out in a tent outdoors, you know, cook over an open fire.

I enjoy that. Getting out there, just getting back to nature. So just something I mean, food just tastes better. Everything is just really great when you go camping. I love it.

I think it's fantastic. I would love to do more camping. I and in fact, I don't know if you guys watched the, the Outdoor Boys. I know it's been he shut down the channel. Not the channel, but he's not doing any more content right now.

This guy, Luke Nichols, will go out, and he'll go camping, like, in the the frozen tundra, or he'll go out in the woods or or mountaineering or whatever. And he just basically shows you I don't wanna call it survival skills, but because he always brings really good delicious food. But it's it's a really fascinating thing. The the the all of that had just just millions and millions of viewers, but camping is a lot of fun. But when you camp, you prepare to camp.

You get your tent. You make you guide make sure you got your sleeping bag. You got your backpack. You got your little canteen. You got your, your dishes, your your you know, all your kit there for your eating, maybe a little stove.

That's a planned event. That's what you do. You plan to go camping. You figure out where you're going camping, then you go do it. They are changing the name of that, not the name of camping.

They're keeping that name, but they're changing the image of camping in Greenville. There is now a thing, oh my gosh, called public camping. Now you might wonder what public camping is. What is public camping, Charlie? That's those are the people the public campers are the people that you see, like, on the side of a road in an easement or in an alley.

They're homeless. They're changing the name of the homeless to public campers. That sounds a lot more appealing than than homeless population, doesn't it? Oh, we have a big public camping community here in Greenville. It is so wonderful.

No. They're homeless. You see, I guess, homeless carries some negative connotation. Public camping. Oh, that sounds that sounds a little more, appetizing.

That's a little bit easier, to deal with, right, than than hold on. Well, they're trying to do something about so called public camping. Greenville City Council is currently debating a proposed ordinance that would prohibit camping in public places, a move that has sparked concern among advocates for the homeless. Council member John Dworkin introduced the ordinance. This is from Lauren Miller over there at, WSPA.

John Dworkin introduced the ordinance after receiving numerous concerns from constituents about people camping on city streets and plazas. The proposed ordinance, which has not yet had his first reading, would prevent individuals from making beds with sleeping bags or blankets in public areas. He said, I sent an email out to about 3,000 of my constituents. In seventy two hours, I received 300 plus emails plus of which 80% said, yes. We should have a camping ordinance.

I'm just thinking this is, are you are you guys thinking this is as funny as I am? They're camping. Is it campers? Alright. The proposed ordinance has drawn mixed reactions from the community.

Some business managers like Jonathan Wood of A. Smith Clothiers support the measure, believing it could help create a safer environment for everyone. It seems like a good solution to try to get people in a place where they can be safer, Wood said. However, others, such as Downtown Batman, a local advocate who provides food, water, and clothing to the homeless, argued that the ordinance could do more harm than good. Where are they supposed to go?

They have nowhere to go. That's why they're here. Nonprofits like Greenville Tog ...

I don't know. When you when you just think that the Democrats cannot get any more ridiculous, they always say, hold my beer. Let me just show you. Just let me show you just how crazy we can be. Of course, this is coming from MSNBC.

What are their contributors over there? Listen to what this guy said. Listen. He's not worried about crime in DC. Now he's a reporter.

He probably makes pretty good money. Read a couple books. He's an author, contributor over there at MSNBC. He probably lives in a very nice neighborhood, but he doesn't care about the other people in Washington, DC. He's got something else on his mind.

Let's take a listen. I think it's really important to be clear about what is going on here, and a relatively small crime problem is being used for specific authoritarian purposes that A relatively small crime problem. Oh, okay. We know and understand. So let's be clear about DC does have a really one really big crime problem, which was the January sixth insurrection Oh.

Incited by the current president of United States. Okay. And his first act in coming back was pardoning all the people who tried to overturn constitutional republic order in Washington, DC. When I go to DC, I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid of losing my vote. I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid that my children's freedom to breathe will be stolen in a world where climate change policy is nonexistent.

I'm afraid that the future of middle class people will be stolen by the very things you were talking about, cutting, the safety net, cutting Medicaid, cutting rural hospitals. Right. Right. So so there is like, and So this guy guy is not see, he's not there, and he's not worried about the people that live in DC. He only visits.

When I go to Washington DC, so you don't have to live there. So you don't exactly know what's going on. I I love what they said over at at MSNBC. Well, no. It was actually on, Morning Joe.

No. It was MSNBC. Chris Matthews said that Donald Trump has gotten the Democrats to defend the indefensible. Let's take a listen to Chris Matthews and and Mika Brzezinski over there at MSNBC. Here we oh, this is on Morning Joe.

Yeah. Let's take a listen. And the murder rate, you can't keep saying violent crime is down, but the murder rate's up. To the average person, the murder reps about life and death. You don't brag about a rising murder rate.

And the Democrats are I agree with you, Mica. They're falling into the trap of defending what's indefensible. It's a trap. Yes. It's a trap.

I mean, if, it's not a winner politically, to say, oh, you're wrong. Look at the data. Because, you know, if one violent crime happens in a in a very heavily populated part of the city, people hear about it, and it's visceral. They don't want it. And they want to they'll gravitate to the person who appears to be doing something about it.

And the appears to be doing something about it. Well, it appears that president Trump, after federalizing the police in Washington, DC, it appears that several 100 criminals are off the streets in just a matter of what? Twenty four hours? Little over that? That's what it appears like.

It appears like the police in Washington DC are finally brave enough to actually do the job of policing because now they've got the authority of the federal government behind them. Good. I saw this one woman trying to interfere with police, arresting a guy, and, well, things did not go well for her. Saw another video where they're rolling up into these neighborhoods, and these and these people are, like, shocked shocked to see the police there. I can't believe it.

The police are rolling up in in our area. I will guarantee you they hadn't been there for a long time. So, so but, no, I'm more worried about I'm more worried about climate change. I'm more worried about climate change. Here is, MSNBC's Anthony Cawley.

Listen to what he said. And I live in Washington. This is personal for me. Many p ...

And welcome back to the program. Let's go to the WRID talk line. We'll talk to Tonda in Spartanburg. Tonda, welcome. Hi.

It's Charlie. Yes, ma'am. I did just have one thing to talk about. But since you've been talking, I have three things to talk about now. Alright.

What you got? Okay. The EBT cards. Yeah. Years ago I mean, I just turned 60.

And years ago when I was, like, 20, I worked at a large grocery store. And when they would come by with their EBT card, it wasn't just junk food, but they would buy, like, five, ten steaks that that cost way more than I could ever afford. Yeah. And I'm thinking, you know, why why is this, you know, even Permitted. Yeah.

Permitted. Yeah. I know. I know how I trust me. I know.

I've seen grocery cards full when I'm sitting there counting out change. Mhmm. It's not right. The same way. It's not right.

It isn't. So The older people like me and my husband, we live on, limited income. Yeah. And then I tried one time to get food stamps, and I was only gonna be able to get $5. And I was like, well, I was like, $5.

I was like, no. That's not even worth that. That would get you a pound of steak. I know. Right?

Right? You're right. What else is on your mind, Tonda? Okay. The Greenville parking.

Yeah. Okay. Spartanburg, they have pretty good parking, but I guess they'll they'll do what Greenville's doing. Sure. But, this baseball field, that they've created, you know, not everybody likes baseball, but they didn't even take any survey of, you know, what the citizens wanted.

And they got rid of Spring Fling. They, they got rid of another, that thing that they had down in town that I can't remember it. Festival? And I might have Once county council, city council get something in their minds, it's hard. It's hard to get them to change their minds.

It really is. That's that's why they spring these things on you at the last minute. Yeah. That's what they did. And, you know, right before spring fling, they said that's canceled because, you know, the ball field well, I don't like to go to the ball field.

You know? Yeah. That's not and plus, I have a neighbor that said he went and things were ex really expensive, you know, to get anything to eat. So, even if I wanna go to the ball field, I wouldn't because, like I said, we're on a limited income. We can't do that kind of stuff.

But we always like to go to Spring Fling and whatever else was downtown. Yeah. Well, now they don't have anything downtown. Tonda, running tight on time. Do you have another another comment?

Yes. Lindsey Graham. Yes. He's gotta go. I'm sorry.

I've lived here my whole life I know. You know, since, I was 30, I think. And, I I know. I feel the same way. Lot of people do.

I appreciate it, Tonda. I wanna go to Christina, and talk to her. Christina, how are you? I'm okay. Alright.

What's up? I have a question. Okay. Monday morning, Tara had on her show and she, verifies to the nth degree before she had stuff on. She had an audio and for all I know, I mean, it was actually for real people who have TVs that might have been audio and video.

But she had an audio of an upper, level Metropolitan Police officer in DC describing in detail the prescribed manner of how the powers that be in the blue controlled cities, how they changed and and who knows? Are they still how they have been changing all of the reporting so that it does not go into the FBI crime statistics. Yeah. So my question Yeah. Is why has no one else on W 0 R D and and Mike Gallagher on Salem?

How come this is such a a a significant thing? Why has no one else talked about that? I don't know where you've been, Christina, because that's pretty much all we've been talking about, how they're changing. We even played that clip, from from not not only the the metro police, but also the, the, police union leader, talking about how they've they've jerryed the books. Well, and they they say they'll be at a crime scene, and they were attempting to do their job.

And here ...

I don't know. When you when you just think that the Democrats cannot get any more ridiculous, they always say hold my beer. Let me just show you. Just let me show you just how crazy we can be. Of course, this is coming from MSNBC.

What are their contributors over there? Listen to what this guy said. Listen. He's not worried about crime in DC. Now he's a reporter.

He probably makes pretty good money. Read a couple of books. He's an author, contributor over there at MSNBC. He probably lives in a very nice neighborhood, but he doesn't care about the other people in Washington, DC. He's got something else on his mind.

Let's take a listen. I think it's really important to be clear about what is going on here, and a relatively small crime problem is being used for specific authoritarian purposes that A relatively small crime problem. Oh, okay. We know and understand. So let's be clear about DC does have a really one really big crime problem, which was the January sixth insurrection Oh.

Incited by the current president of United States. Okay. And his first act in coming back was pardoning all the people who tried to overturn constitutional republic order in Washington, DC. When I go to DC, I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid of losing my vote. I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid that my children's freedom to breathe will be stolen in a world where climate change policy is nonexistent.

I'm afraid that the future of middle class people will be stolen by the very things you were talking about, cutting the safety net, cutting Medicaid, cutting rural hospitals. Right. Right. So so there is contact, like, and So so this guy is not see, he's not there, and he's not worried about the people that live in DC. He only visits.

When I go to Washington DC so you don't have to live there. So you don't exactly know what's going on. I I love what they said over at at MSNBC. Well, no. It was actually on, Morning Joe.

No. It was MSNBC. Chris Matthews said that Donald Trump has gotten the Democrats to defend the indefensible. Let's take a listen to Chris Matthews and and Mika Brzezinski over there at MSNBC. Here we oh, this is on Morning Joe.

Yeah. Let's take a listen. And the murder rate, you can't keep saying violent crime is down with the murder rates up. To the average person, the murder reps about life and death. You don't brag about a rising murder rate.

And the Democrats are, I agree with you, Mica, they're falling into the trap of defending what's indefensible. It's a trap. Yes. It's a trap. I mean, if, it's not a winner politically, to say, oh, you're wrong.

Look at the data. Because, you know, if one violent crime happens in a in a a very heavily populated part of the city, people hear about it, and it's visceral. They don't want it, and they want to they'll gravitate to the person who appears to be doing something about it. And the appears to be doing something about it. Well, it appears that president Trump, after federalizing the police in Washington, DC, it appears that several 100 criminals are off the streets in just a matter of, what, twenty four hours?

Little over that? That's what it appears like. It appears like the police in Washington DC are finally brave enough to actually do the job of policing because now they've got the authority of the federal government behind them. Good. I saw this one woman trying to interfere with police, arresting a guy, and, well, things did not go well for her.

Saw another video where they're rolling up into these neighborhoods, and these and these people are, like, shocked shocked to see the police there. I can't believe it. The police are rolling up in in our area. I will guarantee you they hadn't been there for a long time. So, so but, no, I'm more worried about I'm more worried about climate change.

I'm more worried about climate change. Here is, MSNBC's Anthony Cawley. Listen to what he said. And I live in Washington. This is personal for ...

I'm a rent me a castle in Scotland. I just heard that story about the, King Charles dog treats, that are made in Balmoral. Very nice. And it's so they're talking about renting a castle in Scotland. I found one.

This is from Arbroath, Scotland. You can rent this for $1,080 a night. Might be worth it. It sleeps 16, by the way. So there you go.

Might do that. Well, here in South Carolina, our governor, Henry McMaster, has decided to go along with RFK Junior and president Trump and actually introduce new restrictions on SNAP benefits. Yeah. And I think this is a good idea. I really do.

Governor McMaster announced today that South Carolina will soon impose new restrictions on how low income residents can use their supplemental nutrition assistant program benefits. Now here, what is the keyword that we're looking at there in the snap nutritional. Nutritional. Now, folks, I love my butter fingers. I love my Reese's peanut butter cups, but I know that they are not nutrition.

They are just there is nothing nutritious about it. No doctors ever said, you know, Charlie, I think you you need to eat more Butterfingers. I'd you need two you need two more full sugar Pepsis and, and and more Butterfingers, and that'll get you that'll get you right as rain. It's not nutrition. It is a treat.

It's a luxury. In a post on eggs, McMaster said he plans to issue the executive order directing the Department of Social Services to impose common sense limits on snap purchases. He said America is getting healthy, and South Carolina will do her part. In the next few days, I will issue an executive order directing the Department of Social Services to place common sense limits on purchases using SNAP benefits formerly known as food stamps. Now right now, about 580,000 South Carolinians get, SNAP benefits according to the Department of Agriculture.

The executive order comes several months after a bill aiming to limit SNAP purchases. Here we go. Gotta go right back to the state legislature on this one and go, hey, guys. You're the problem. You're literally the problem here in South Carolina.

These Republicans in Columbia, there was a bill aimed at limiting SNAP purchases, and that failed to advance in the South Carolina house. Of course, because the South Carolina house is where common sense goes to die. The legislation titled the South Carolina SNAP Nutrition Integrity Act would have barred recipients from purchasing things like candy and soft drinks. The bill defined candy and goes on to define we all know what candy is. We don't have to be told.

Whilst that effort stalled in the legislature this is from watch Fox fifty seven. While that effort stalled in the legislature, McMaster's executive action may implement similar restrictions through administrative channels. So I think it's a good idea, but not but you would think because that's all we hear, and people are people are screaming about this. Oh, he's limited our benefit. There's one guy.

Let me find it see if I can find this quote here. I thought it was, pretty interesting. Yeah. One guy, this guy named Tim, he was out grocery shopping with his son. He was interviewed.

He said, they're trying to dictate what you do with your benefits. When you tell people what they can and can't get, it takes away your freedom. Mister Wise, you've got the freedom to get off SNAP benefits altogether, if that's what you want. Is that your idea of freedom? Being able to go buy Twizzlers and and and and Skittles?

Something that's actually gonna contribute to things like, I don't know, type two diabetes, poor health, cardiovascular disease, all of this stuff. Wood free well, there you go. Public health consultant doctor Bamby Gaddis highlighted additional components of the proposed changes, including the expanded work requirements. There are expanded work requirements that are potentially going to go into effect, which may be disconcerting disconcerting and problematic for some people, especially people who a ...